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Shares / Re: Share Buyback
« on: March 17, 2015, 01:27:31 pm »
Agreed with all of above. Each company is valued on a forward view of its cash flows from whence dividends are paid. This gives an NPV which should be positive, based on the initial equity cost. Any share buyback needs to apply the same forward view of cash flows and determine if the NPV (based on the share price they are buying at now) is higher or lower.

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Off topic / Re: Live chat
« on: March 11, 2015, 08:12:46 am »
Rand is pretty stretched now. Should start to come back a little, perhaps to 11.80. But trend is not good. Either way we are going to pay more for fuel when BFP price gets calculated next month. 

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Off topic / Re: Live chat
« on: February 12, 2015, 10:02:35 am »
PTXTEN price is out everywhere. If it's not I'm rich!

Well done, how did you know ?

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Shares / Re: 2015 Thread
« on: February 09, 2015, 11:01:49 am »
@The Trader, could you please explain how rising interest rates could have a positive effect on gold and platinum. The way I see it, rising interest rates entice people to leave there money in savings accounts and to buy bonds. Rising interest rates also drives down inflation, from my understanding this should reduce the price of gold or am I missing something out?

Hi Imran, the generally accepted economic theory is that rising interest rates drive down inflation and commodity prices. This does indeed play out in the markets but there are also other factors. Central Banks are the largest players in the gold game, having the largest holdings by far. As interest rates rise Central Banks pay out more cash and therefore trim their gold holdings to help fund this (spot gold price falls). However, Central Banks tend to maintain a fixed level of gold reserves (unless they are actively investing or divesting) so they do a spot gold loan and forward buy back i.e. the gold forward curve tends to steepen. This means that down the line there is more demand for gold in terms of buybacks. Traders are generally forward looking and they try to predict the net buyback or net disposals in the entire chain. If the buyback period co-incides with an equity collapse then gold soars e.g. 2008 credit crunch. China is also increasing its net gold reserves as interest rates rise and increase the value of their USD holdings i.e. they are swapping out of rising US bonds and other fixed income investments for gold. This helps keep the spot price of gold high in the face of rising interest rates.

The other factor is that rising interest rates do indeed mean better returns in fixed income and lower returns in equities. With US treasuries at such low levels and equities falling out of favour as rates rise, there is a tendency to diversify into gold instead. This is all part of the "search for yield" and "safe haven" trades. When this happens simultaneously, as I was suggesting in my post above, then gold has a real chance to rally. However, at the end of the day you cannot eat gold and it doesn't get consumed or destroyed. So, unless gold becomes some form of backing for a global bitcoin, I don't think we will see a one-way rally. Gold is always going to be used as a balancing mechanism to rates, currencies, emotion and global events. No one will ever understand the full picture at any point in time but it should continue to offer trading opportunities going forward. Savvy gold miners should be hedging 6 months out after every $100 rally and make sure they also have excellent FX traders on board.

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Shares / Re: 2015 Thread
« on: February 09, 2015, 10:40:54 am »
I'm not into oil and metals but my concern is this........

Hi Orca, the lower rig count doesn't necessarily mean large job losses in the US. These jobs are smaller, highly specialised jobs. The integrated oil majors are indeed cutting capital expense going forward but they are making large profits on their refineries and downstream businesses as the profit margin between crude oil and petrol prices opens up. Whilst upstream jobs may be curtailed the majority of downstream jobs will likely stay in place.

Oil (and stock) prices had me fooled last week by extending their rally for the whole week. We could see this continue as traders all jump on the oil price rally. Much of the rally has been thanks to the shorts closing out their very profitable trades over the last few months. The fundamentals of extreme oversupply remain in the oil market and (possibly) by the end of the week we could see price start to reflect this again. With this next crude oil price drop I expect Brent to target $40 but any lower would start to be a real stretch. I don't think that this will see a consequent crash for equities e.g. Black Monday. The days of losing 20% (at current price levels) are probably over. In real terms a 20% crash today would wipe out the equivalent of several medium sized countries GDP. However, there is no doubt that stocks are dancing with excessive exuberance at the moment.


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Shares / Re: 2015 Thread
« on: February 02, 2015, 10:00:25 am »
January proved to be a down month for the US market but the SA Top 40 managed to rise, I suppose thanks to all those Rand hedge stocks and of course Naspers. I will never understand the desire to own this tech stock. Feels like all those China bulls who were riding the commodity wave have moved over to the China internet bubble now. Do they understand that many Chinese are sitting on negative equity on 2nd and 3rd properties that they bought at the height of the property market there? Anyway, good luck to them....

Interesting article on Moneyweb today about PSG moving into resource stocks:
http://today.moneyweb.co.za/article.php?id=808541&cid=2015-02-02#.VM8of2iUeKg

For what it's worth the overall strategy is probably correct but you need to pick your winners from the bones of the deceased very carefully. To help with this it's probably wise to think about the underlying commodity and who might stand to benefit...

Oil and Refined Products
The market is clearly beaten up. Local exposure is via Sasol. Brent has rallied and many are predicting the bottom is in. However, momentum is building up for one final push down, thereby trapping all those premature bulls in the old classic bull trap. Sasol will be a great investment but probably better towards end Feb and not now. Stay away from Sacoil and any others exposed to the upstream. The integrated oil majors such as Shell, BP etc. are all great investments as they are making up lost revenues on higher refinery margins i.e. crude has fallen faster than refined products.

Iron ore, chrome, manganese & other steel feedstocks
This sector is only for the brave. China continues to shut down steel plants left, right and centre as it battles with controlling pollution and overcapacity in the sector. They are offshoring their steel production now e.g. the IDC Limpopo project with Heibei Iron & Steel. Expect Arcelor Mittal to stay under huge pressure. Kumba Iron ore produces a good quality iron ore but even they must be pretty close to marginal production costs now. If freight rates between Saldanha and Asia start going up (they can only really go up from here) then they are really under pressure. Exxaro and Anglo are exposed. Glencore and Merafe are exposed on the chrome side. BHP Billiton is exposed on the manganese side. The whole sector is not pretty at all.

Coal & Gas
Coal might rally a little in the short term but only because the big traders are playing games on trying to set index prices for their Japanese buyers at the moment. Post this Feb / March "mating season" expect coal prices to come down or at least remain in the doldrums. Coal has really had its day as countries from the USA to China turn their back on it. Only South Africa and India will remain as major coal consumers. SA coal stocks will do OK if they focus on Eskom and domestic sales to cement mills, paper mills, sugar mills etc. But then these mills are also moving to gas which will benefit Sasol etc. Global gas prices are really weak too. Power utilities such as Eskom should be making a small fortune from this as power revenues rise and fuel costs fall. I guess they have other problems.... Glencore, Anglo and Exxaro are all heavily exposed to coal with Glencore probably controlling over 70% of the SA export market through off-take contracts with other juniors etc. In terms of juniors the message is clear... stay away unless they are 51% black owned and supplying Eskom. Wescoal will probably do OK as it controls around 80% of the high paying industrial coal market after they took over MacPhail. They will keep the local price high until these consumers all move over to gas.

Precious Metals
Equity markets are likely to have a bouncy 2015. Rising interest rates will also be positive for gold and platinum stocks. This should see precious metals doing well, especially when equities fall and interest rates rise simultaneously. Look for opportunities to invest in the low cost gold and platinum producers.

South Africa stands to benefit hugely from a strong trade account this year i.e. lower import oil prices and stronger export earnings from gold and platinum. This should help the ZAR to perform well against the USD and certainly against the EUR. That financial analyst (Magnus Heystek) who predicted the blowout of the ZAR and investing everything offshore is probably going to eat his words this year. I reckon we will likely get back to around 10 ZAR:USD this year, depending on what happens with our relative interest rates.

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Shares / Re: 2015 Thread
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:24:22 am »
SA TOP40 wanting to try and break up again here.... But momentum trend now negative. Choppy, crosscurrent waters still. Upside moves will likely lack conviction and if momentum moves to overbought then downside moves would be stronger.

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Shares / Re: Oil price and Sasol
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:20:43 am »
Brent rallied last week and now looks overbought on short term momentum. Looking for another downside move this week to test the $40 level.

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The Investor Challenge / Can we short shares
« on: January 15, 2015, 07:03:23 am »
Is there a way to short shares in the competition?

For instance, if you look at Imran's transactions it would seem there is.....

2015-01-08 12:42:31 CGR 7377 1350 R99 987,86   
2015-01-08 13:00:27 CGR -7545 1350 -R101 737,50

18 minutes after buying CGR he was able to sell more shares than he owned at the same price, thus netting a small profit because price was the same. However, it doesn't show him as being short in his holdings.

Patrick, any ideas on this?

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Off topic / Re: Live chat
« on: January 14, 2015, 12:39:44 pm »
Yes, copper price. And perhaps a growing realisation that they are exposed to coal, the ugly sister of all the fossil fuels. Copper price is down but also, Zambia is trying to impose a 20% gross royalty on tonnage, instead of the current 4% and taxes. This knocks Glencore (and others such as Trafigura) because they would no longer be able to offshore profits to Zug and leave the operating company in country running at close to break even.

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Shares / Re: Coal Shares
« on: January 14, 2015, 12:10:33 pm »
The Trader, you have called it correctly, GLN taking a beating at the moment

Couldn't happen to a bunch of nicer guys. Why do you think Cyril Ramaphosa (GLN's man in SA) was sent to South Sudan? Because GLN needed their oil to start flowing again. Ok, that's probably a little conspiracy theorist of me. But not far from the truth if you know some of the other supposed GLN tactics.

With GLN buying millions of their own shares back they have also destroyed shareholder value, although shareholders were no doubt for some time grateful to them for holding up the price.

Just remember however that GLN probably owns over 70% of Richards Bay exports i.e. they may not own the actual export shareholding but they have bought many of the remaining cargoes from Anglo, BHP etc. They also buy up the financial swaps (API4 index) to try and keep the coal price up so they spend an immense amount of firepower on supporting coal prices. When the tide goes out, as it has, we will see their exposure in their next set of financial results.

Having said all this, GLN are very astute traders and just maybe coal prices could recover. If they do then GLN surely stands to benefit from that monopoly power.

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Shares / Re: 2015 Thread
« on: January 13, 2015, 09:57:51 pm »
And flipped again.... Dow decided to turn around and close down. Wow, really not having much luck with what was supposed to be an upside break out. Time to get out and go to sidelines. But if I had been disciplined enough I would have waited for confirmation with a positive momentum upside breakout i.e. blue line breaking above red line in bottom MACD graph. That never happened and instead Mr. Market decided to toy with my greed anticipation levels.

Going to be a crappy day on the ALSI tomorrow. Big gap down on the open.

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Shares / Re: Oil price and Sasol
« on: January 13, 2015, 04:56:57 pm »

Once costs are sunk, some can produce at $0,99 per barrel.
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Once oil companies sink cash into drilling wells, lining them with steel pipes and concrete, blasting the surrounding rocks into rubble with hydraulic fracturing, and linking them to pipeline systems, they have no incentive to scale back production, said Andrew Cosgrove, an analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence in Princeton, New Jersey.

That's mostly true but realise that Exxon and others are talking their book, trying desperately to remove the Saudi argument in the immediate term. In terms of conventional oil, these wells last for around 20 years so the marginal cost of production can be as low as $0.99 i.e. they have paid off all capital and are massively profitable. But with fracking, these wells generally only last for 3 to 4 years which is why frackers continually need to drill new wells, with associated capital costs etc. The proof of the pudding is already out there.... 1) Rig utilisation in the US is dropping massively, even though production is currently staying constant. Also, gas prices, which fracking is 80% about, is already starting to respond to potentially lower production. The production cuts will come in a year or so and the oil price will react to that forward view in a few months or so.

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Shares / Re: 2015 Thread
« on: January 13, 2015, 04:53:05 pm »
I assume you're talking Alsi daily?

No, I always refer to DOW as the market. ALSI will follow tomorrow. Market making its move now, breaking up finally. Whew, was worried there for awhile.

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Shares / Re: Oil price and Sasol
« on: January 13, 2015, 02:48:05 pm »
I expect to see massive see-sawing between $45 and $65 oil for some time to come. The reason is that at $45 the frackers don't make money and cut rigs and new drilling completely which reduces supply quite quickly. At $65 the frackers are just making enough money to remain above the variable cost of production, and thus pay off some of their debt and capital etc. which means that all the excess supply is in the system. Which is when the Saudis will again try to drive them out of business by increasing their production and hanging onto market share. It's going to be an interesting game of cat and mouse between the US frackers and the Saudi Sheiks. If only the ZAR would strengthen so we can get some real benefits from the oil price drop.

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