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Bundu

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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2014, 04:22:55 pm »
I see Griffin is gone.

seems like his portfolio has been rolled back to R100k - if so, it's just fair :TU:
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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2014, 05:14:05 pm »
No hard feelings Griffin. You exposed a loophole.  :TU:
Now to get back to the other stuff jaDeb's chasing us to.
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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2014, 05:25:41 pm »
I agree with Bundu and Tgg. Not with the gambler and wannabe cheater gcr. At this stage I have not even bothered to enter the competition and will not do so. I cannot compete against cheaters.
This is purely an INVESTING for CLIENTS in a MANAGED ACCOUNT and not TRADING. If you want to trade then go to a trading website. Leave us investors alone to do our investing.
To avoid scalping, the only way to go is to use closing or opening prices only. Same as ShareNet does. The starting gun has been fired and should be fired again to get all back to the start point.

 
Orca - you really need to watch your mouth especially after 6.30 p.m.  :-[

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :laugh: :LHST:

Oops. Sorry. Problem is that the sun only sets at around 8pm here in CT this time of the year.What are you and Bundu doing here at 1am??? Hic. Burp.
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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2014, 05:29:56 pm »
Hey. Patric. Where is NewGold (GLD)? That is a very good index to follow. You have NewGold Plat.
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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2014, 07:50:33 pm »
I agree with Bundu and Tgg. Not with the gambler and wannabe cheater gcr. At this stage I have not even bothered to enter the competition and will not do so. I cannot compete against cheaters.
This is purely an INVESTING for CLIENTS in a MANAGED ACCOUNT and not TRADING. If you want to trade then go to a trading website. Leave us investors alone to do our investing.
To avoid scalping, the only way to go is to use closing or opening prices only. Same as ShareNet does. The starting gun has been fired and should be fired again to get all back to the start point.

 
Orca - you really need to watch your mouth especially after 6.30 p.m.  :-[

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :laugh: :LHST:

Oops. Sorry. Problem is that the sun only sets at around 8pm here in CT this time of the year.What are you and Bundu doing here at 1am??? Hic. Burp.
For me - just getting ready for bed  ???
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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2014, 07:53:44 pm »
 :wtf: is going on here?

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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2014, 08:30:06 am »
Hey. Patric. Where is NewGold (GLD)? That is a very good index to follow. You have NewGold Plat.

Added... When scanning for etf's I only looked at shares with a code longer than 3 characters  O:-)

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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2014, 08:40:18 am »
Patrick,

Just a thought, would it be able to have a transaction cost line in each portfolio? i think it would be interesting to see the amount spent by a trader, especially when they are doing badly.

thanks

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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2014, 09:28:58 am »
Griffin,

Well done for rolling back your portfolio, I think it shows good spotrsmanship on your side :TU:

On a lighter note, have you seen how many portfolios you have ruined with your OANDO buy :) Nearly 70% of the bottom 10 jumped on the band wagon after seeing that share jump 30% in one day, only to have the price fall by 30% again ::)

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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2014, 12:54:51 pm »
I see Oando has been removed from this site now.  Will it still update in my holdings?  Will it be added back?
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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2014, 03:08:54 pm »
I see Oando has been removed from this site now.  Will it still update in my holdings?  Will it be added back?

Yes, everything works except buying more.

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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2014, 09:01:53 am »
Why isn't Central Rand Gold still available to buy (newbie question maybe?)

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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2014, 10:27:57 am »
CRD trades too low volumes and infrequently

edit: and if you look at CRD at this moment

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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2014, 11:04:57 am »
I see Poynting (POY) has been removed from the list of shares one can buy. To my knowledge they trade quite frequently and their price is running around the R 2.18 to R 2.20 mark, and their all time high has been R 2.35.
Can't for the life of me see the logic in removing it as a counter when it was in the system last year.
I hold some of these shares in my personal portfolio and bought at an all in cost of 82 cents against todays price of R 2.18 and some 43,000 shares have traded today - not big numbers when compared to the top 20 companies, but sufficient numbers to make a market
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Re: The 2014 Challenge has begun!
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2014, 03:08:32 pm »
From this thread and the other on frequency of traded stock, here is something to consider.
The objective of the competitors is to win the competition at year end; the objective of the moderators is to ensure everyone gets a fair shake at winning and that unjustified trades are taken out of the equation as the specific counter may not have sufficient trades.
This is an option to be considered
1) All shares are included on the list of shares one is permitted to purchase/sell
2) Orders to buy/sell are subject to sufficient volumes of the counter being bought/sold having traded on the day. If insufficient volumes then the order is rolled back totally or the buy/sell order is limited to the volumes that went through that day. This infers that the competitor can not buy or sell shares in a low volume counter greater than the shares traded on that day. Thus the buy/sell order would take up the maximum number of shares and the unexecuted volume would revert to cash in the competitors trading account
3) All sales effected are subject to 40% tax and are to be lost in the ether of the sale and this tax is to be taken at the time of the sale. Thus those people who buy and hold their portfolio to the end of the competition would not incur any taxation, but those who buy and sell frequently will suffer capital losses each time they sell. Competitors would then look very carefully at the net result of selling out of a counter either fully or partially. 

The competition was set up as an investment competition and not as a trading competition, but it does allow those who want to "trade" to do so it just means the tax will hurt them when they sell more frequently
This is not the only solution but is an option for the competitors to consider and then decide the best way forward >:D
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