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Cius

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ETF vs the world
« on: May 15, 2013, 11:58:08 am »
So looking through the MYBB group I checked all the public profiles and saw that ETF's where scarce and if they where present they where less than 20% of the portfolio. As a big fan of ETF's as a diversified way to invest I am purchasing only ETF's and seeing how I compare against the MYBB board. Not sure how it will work out for me as yet but I would not be surprised if I end the year in the top 20% of the group taking the low risk diversified approach instead of betting on a handful of individual companies. So lets see how it plays out.
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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 12:16:14 pm »
I was hoping to see more of this, the other is a purely satrix40 profile (highlighted in red). I'm also a firm believer in ETFs and hold most of my portfolio in real life in ETFs and unit trusts. In the game I'm trying seeing whether I can beat the market. So far so good (with a generous helping of luck)... :)

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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 02:13:24 pm »
There's a lot of ETFs out there, so you're still picking, you're just picking a basket. I've been happily holding the satrix indi for some time now, and it's beaten just about every fund manager out. Whether it will continue to is the question.

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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 02:22:41 pm »
This competition is about the 'top performers', and that's most likely to be the person who makes the best bet on an individual company (or two).  In reality I wouldn't be that foolish.  I would (and do) stick to ETFs.  But seeing as this is just a game, it's all about "the punt" and I don't mind just throwing my money on a company like I would on a race horse.

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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 02:44:12 pm »
This competition is about the 'top performers', and that's most likely to be the person who makes the best bet on an individual company (or two).  In reality I wouldn't be that foolish.  I would (and do) stick to ETFs.  But seeing as this is just a game, it's all about "the punt" and I don't mind just throwing my money on a company like I would on a race horse.

Perhaps. Although it is called the "Investor" challenge and not the trading challenge. Either way I will be interested to see how I perform vs the pickers and choosers and what that says about the different techniques.
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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 03:30:59 pm »
This competition is about the 'top performers', and that's most likely to be the person who makes the best bet on an individual company (or two).  In reality I wouldn't be that foolish.  I would (and do) stick to ETFs.  But seeing as this is just a game, it's all about "the punt" and I don't mind just throwing my money on a company like I would on a race horse.

I have been using the same stocks that I have in my real portfolio in the other competition since June and so far I have not been knocked off my perch as League Leader. I use the same stocks here too and am happy so far. Only 3 stocks and I am not being Foolish by punting my pension money.
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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 05:25:55 pm »
There's a lot of ETFs out there, so you're still picking, you're just picking a basket. I've been happily holding the satrix indi for some time now, and it's beaten just about every fund manager out. Whether it will continue to is the question.
Good choice. I have always recommended STXIND to people that don't have time to watch their portfolio every day. The day I retire I will transfer all my pension into it and only check up on it after my fishing trips. It has been the least volatile and best performing STX of all and doing 30%+. UT managers would love to get the same gains.
Tip. Buy it via a broker on the JSE and not on the Satrix website. Cheaper and you can sell at a click of a button if needed.

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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 01:23:12 pm »
STXIND to go down for those wanting to buy.
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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2013, 09:16:22 am »
Just a question, are dividends being paid out into our accounts? Been in a while and I have not seen any dividends yet and both my indices normally pay out divi's quarterly???
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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2013, 01:34:12 pm »
Dividends and Interest minus tax gets paid in to your trading account. On my STXIND i was paid i think
beginning July for 2nd quarter, about 1% annually.
Usually there is a SENS out of payment dates.

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Re: ETF vs the world
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2013, 01:49:39 pm »
Dividends and Interest minus tax gets paid in to your trading account. On my STXIND i was paid i think
beginning July for 2nd quarter, about 1% annually.
Usually there is a SENS out of payment dates.

Divi, interest and foreign divi were paid July 11th in to my trading account