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ETF's?
« on: April 06, 2014, 08:44:58 am »
Guys this is called The Investor challenge. So why arn't all the ETF's and ETN's in the list? I want to buy palladium shares.

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Re: ETF's?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 09:42:31 am »
I thought I had them all in, at least all the ones the use provides info on. Which ones are missing?

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2014, 07:51:36 am »
Hello Patrick. Yes you might actually but Palladium is a new ETF. Check this sheet out under Standard Bank http://www.etfsa.co.za/ETF_factsheet.htm

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Re: ETF's?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2014, 07:28:56 am »
For Info purposes:

Standard Bank launched a listed palladium ETF on 24 March 2014.

In addition to the AfricaPalladium ETF (exchange traded fund), the AfricaGold and AfricaPlatinum ETFs listed on 7 April 2014.

Standard Bank Group was the first bank to list local ETNs (exchange trade notes) on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange in 2010 with the launch of ETNs that track the performance of gold, platinum, palladium and silver followed by the Africa Equity ETN.

The commodity ETFs offer investors a different investment class with several benefits including exposure to the physical commodity, some level of protection from negative real interest rates. Regulation 28 of the Pension Funds Act specifically allows for commodity exposure of up to 10 % through ETF's and ETN's. AfricaETF investors will have the option of physical delivery of the metals should they hold the necessary approvals, alternatively settlement in cash at the equivalent metal value on redemption of the ETF.

The AfricaPalladium, AfricaGold and AfricaPlatinum ETFs will be treated as local assets and have no exchange control implications for investors.

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Re: ETF's?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2014, 08:46:36 am »
Thanks, I'll add them

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Re: ETF's?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2014, 09:33:13 am »
Hey Patrick - Plus 2 more...

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Standard Bank launched a listed palladium ETF on 24 March 2014.

In addition to the AfricaPalladium ETF (exchange traded fund), the AfricaGold and AfricaPlatinum ETFs listed on 7 April 2014.

Standard Bank Group was the first bank to list local ETNs (exchange trade notes) on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange in 2010 with the launch of ETNs that track the performance of gold, platinum, palladium and silver followed by the Africa Equity ETN.

The commodity ETFs offer investors a different investment class with several benefits including exposure to the physical commodity, some level of protection from negative real interest rates. Regulation 28 of the Pension Funds Act specifically allows for commodity exposure of up to 10 % through ETF's and ETN's. AfricaETF investors will have the option of physical delivery of the metals should they hold the necessary approvals, alternatively settlement in cash at the equivalent metal value on redemption of the ETF.

The AfricaPalladium, AfricaGold and AfricaPlatinum ETFs will be treated as local assets and have no exchange control implications for investors.
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Re: ETF's?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2014, 10:14:17 am »
It may take a little while, my JSE link vanished with the website upgrade. I'm looking for a replacement.

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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2014, 12:35:42 pm »
It may take a little while, my JSE link vanished with the website upgrade. I'm looking for a replacement.
Mmm!!
The only place I know of is Bloomberg - they have a free quote server in place that allows you to download latest prices (I guess 15-30 minutes delayed). Thing is I have no idea on how this is achieved. I have a software package that has this functionality built in. This may help though
http://www.fundmanagersoftware.com/intrtv.html
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Re: ETF's?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 07:34:52 pm »
Isn't it strange how so many ETF's beat stock picking? Makes you wonder if trading single stocks is really the way to go.

Hey Patrick, next year you expand the competition and throw up a ETF section. Let's see who reads the ETF's correctly. In any case, I have a suspicion that fund managers buy a lot of ETF's instead of direct shares to negate risk.