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Patrick

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Re: What investment instruments do you use?
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2015, 09:20:36 am »
Very true, your upside could also be bigger, say for instance you decide to rent them out during the week too. I know people in my complex making a fortune off AirBNB. It's not really passive income, but since your home anyway, it shouldn't tie you down much at all.

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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2015, 08:45:38 am »
Nothing like a couple of stories of how people treat their holiday accommodation to make me think twice.  ???

I'll put the idea on ice for the moment - need to revisit my first business plan and start working on it.

 

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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2015, 09:52:48 am »
So similar to my own story.  Now I'm buying REITs as well. Very cool. Looking at what the real performance will be like in 10 years time. I hope to tell the tale  :whistle:

I've gone from 100% property (my house and two rental apartments) to 100% equity over the last few years.

In my case equities have far exceeded property. I have invested in unit trusts before, but I don't like the fees, so now I do an even split between the Satrix Indi and the eRafi indi in my regular portfolio and my tax free portfolio.

Don't think I could make more through CFDs, I would quite likely lose cash and gain stress.

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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2015, 10:22:28 am »
So similar to my own story.  Now I'm buying REITs as well. Very cool. Looking at what the real performance will be like in 10 years time. I hope to tell the tale  :whistle:

I've gone from 100% property (my house and two rental apartments) to 100% equity over the last few years.

In my case equities have far exceeded property. I have invested in unit trusts before, but I don't like the fees, so now I do an even split between the Satrix Indi and the eRafi indi in my regular portfolio and my tax free portfolio.

Don't think I could make more through CFDs, I would quite likely lose cash and gain stress.

Just for an update, as I'm getting closer and closer to calling it quits, I've started buying DIVTRX for the decent dividend and also some growth.

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Re: What investment instruments do you use?
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2015, 11:22:15 am »
I've been waiting for the Greek saga to unfold before investing in DIVTRX, INDI and PGR. (PGR for alpha)
So time to get in now but when is a pullback going to happen? Three straight days up big time. Surely the traders should take profit now.

On an interesting note. Simon Brown has a infographic tweet showing that 89% fund managers under perform their index over 1 year and 97% over 5 years.  No UT's for me thank you.
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Re: What investment instruments do you use?
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2015, 11:34:27 am »
I find it interesting that people look at dividends as a means of support and invest in something like the STXDivi or a tracker fund
Has anybody done the maths on this scenario:-
Having funds invested in a typical fixed deposit for a year or 6 months rolling versus funds ex these ETF for dividends. Many companies pay out less than 6% as a dividend and then it is subjected to dividend tax at 15% and normally paid into your trading account with your brokers. The broker probably also charges annual fees which also spreads your costs for maintaining that account across your dividend receipt albeit a small portion.
It could prove more expeditious to invest in a rolling FD rather than being overly concerned about the attractiveness of dividends. Also if over/under 65 in age you get some relief on interest earned via SARS so this needs to be considered when viewed against a dividend chase
Just my views
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Re: What investment instruments do you use?
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2015, 12:00:09 pm »
I find it interesting that people look at dividends as a means of support and invest in something like the STXDivi or a tracker fund
Has anybody done the maths on this scenario:-
Having funds invested in a typical fixed deposit for a year or 6 months rolling versus funds ex these ETF for dividends. Many companies pay out less than 6% as a dividend and then it is subjected to dividend tax at 15% and normally paid into your trading account with your brokers. The broker probably also charges annual fees which also spreads your costs for maintaining that account across your dividend receipt albeit a small portion.
It could prove more expeditious to invest in a rolling FD rather than being overly concerned about the attractiveness of dividends. Also if over/under 65 in age you get some relief on interest earned via SARS so this needs to be considered when viewed against a dividend chase
Just my views

Not only are you also getting capital growth but dividends generally out strip inflation:

Think of it this way: person lives of the yield 5 years

1)100K in a 6% cash deposit. end of 5 years, guys still getting 6K every year - which because of inflation, is way less than what he started. And his capital is still sitting on R100K

2) Guys has 100K in divi stock, starting at 5% (for this argument/ clear after taxes and its with EQ so no fees) divi grows at 8% per year and porfolio grows at a modest 12%

Capital will be worth R181 and dividend yield will be R7,500 p/y

My mother in law is going with option one...