Author Topic: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?  (Read 4469 times)

yozzi

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Re: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2017, 05:16:47 pm »
Sold out of INDI, CML but made a major mistake by buying US$ last year at R14.50! I must stop hoping for bad news to make money as that's what it amounts to!

Thought it was going much higher but def not the case so now sitting with a pile of dollars and plotting where to invest and looking to buy ETF's for the long term 

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Re: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2017, 07:14:32 am »
I must stop hoping for bad news to make money as that's what it amounts to!


Funny, that is also where I am. But I am not hoping for it, I am just waiting for it.
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Re: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2019, 03:11:41 pm »
Not so long ago we were reaping the rewards of stocks like the INDI, CML, etc with 20-30% annual gains being the norm but what's happened to the market and will it turn around any time soon?

Is anyone still making this type of growth or is it just a pipedream?

Posted this two years ago with some interesting replies but has anything changed? Zuma's gone but we've still got the Eskom debacle, land expropriation has reared it's head again and the Rand up and down as usual!

Still looking for that 15-20% annual growth but it's like trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack!

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Re: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2019, 09:13:55 pm »
Accept that over the last 5 years the economy in RSA has been in decline, we have a worsening exchange rate, and and GDP is growing at less than 1%. Then we had a change in president who regrettably is nothing more than a windbag - just shows his gifted enterprises taught him nought about business and economics - so we have a present who is nothing more than a goffer for the ANC.
Somewhere I read today that since November last year foreigners and saffers have taken R 400 billion out of RSA and there is little chance of the country receiving foreign investor funds unless stringent conditions are met. Elephant in the room is China who could invest heavily in this country but again they will demand concession and conditions that would make a smarty box look opaque.
When the political situation gets to an equilibrium then only are we likely to see some growth, forex investment and other good things happening in this country.
When the government have the courage to charge fraudsters (many of their own party members), jail the people and get the trade unions to wind in their necks on stupid wage demands with no evident productivity gains, then and only then will we see this country revert to a great place to work and live in.
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Re: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2019, 10:00:15 am »
GCR that is the big worry for me that R400b and more has gone out of the country in a few months and with the way this government is going it's going to get far worse and I'm really shocked at how this new president has done absolutely nothing to quell the fears of his own country and for investors from overseas! What is he trying to do run the place into the ground and he was supposed to be the great new hope after the previous regime and as a very wealthy man money would not have been his sole aim ala Trump but I see nothing that gives me any confidence for the future.

Still doesn't help me with my goal of getting an investment that gives me 15-20% return per year though!  :'(

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Re: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2019, 04:41:16 pm »
Well if you are the risky type then you could invest in AYO, Steinhoff, Sygnia, Dischem, ADAPIT and home for a return to better days (except AYO) :TU:
I hold shares in the last 4 and am prepared to wait a while longer before making a sell decision
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Re: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2019, 05:34:07 pm »
All my mid caps are now small caps.  8) (me smoking a joint to be happy about it)
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Re: What happened to all the 20, 25 & 30%+ stocks?
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2019, 04:41:07 pm »
Still doesn't help me with my goal of getting an investment that gives me 15-20% return per year though!  :'(

The only way you're going to see that type of return is taking an outsized bet on something the market thinks unlikely to happen. Some of the smart money is punting gold, with most reserve banks around the world piling into physical gold, as no-one trusts US debt anymore. Or you could buy an out the money collar on Bitcoin, if you can find someone to structure you one. Shouldn't be too difficult if you're a HNW with a private bank. Take below $1,000 as your put strike and above $5,000 as your call strike. I can't see crypto-currencies going sideways for much longer as people are either going to start bailing out (i.e. price goes to zero) or else somehow a fire gets lit under them (price goes above $5,000). You could also buy a deep out the money put on equities. A lot of smart money is also punting second passports, and land with decent water on it. It's not going to get you a 20% return but you will have options should the proverbial sh1t hit the fan.