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Wanted - testers for the competition
« on: April 15, 2013, 08:55:23 pm »
I think it's about ready to go, but I know better than releasing untested code onto the masses  ;D

So I'm looking for volunteers to give it a quick run through. 

No need to worry about making wise choices now as I'll be cleaning the database before the real go-live date, so you can be as brave as you like. Even as far as buying some Telkom!

If you're keen to help reply here and I'll add you to the private challenge section.

Cheers

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 09:59:47 pm »
Willing to help out. ;)

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 10:27:12 pm »
Same here

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 10:44:40 pm »
Ok, you've both been given access. Go here to see what to do: http://www.shareforum.co.za/the-investor-challenge/testers-read-here/

All future testers please use the same link.

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 11:49:30 pm »
Jeez dude! You truly are a legend. I've read everything and all seems awesome.

Very flippen keen to link or break the news on the other thread!

Innital feedback...

Would be nice if you could incorporate divvies later (as you said), and maybe a search function on the "buy shares" page, but I guess ctrl+f on the pc will yield the same result.

Will make some picks pretty soon!

Edit: Scrap the search function idea, nothing wrong with using ctrl+f or "find on/in page" on tablets.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2013, 11:55:04 pm by Krypt0n1te »

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 09:55:48 am »
Everything works for me. Nice idea!

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 10:14:06 am »
I'll give it a go - being a Tester in my day job has it's benefits.
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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 10:21:44 am »
I'll give it a go - being a Tester in my day job has it's benefits.

Thanks, you should have access, try the link above.

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 11:11:17 am »
Picked up 2 possible bugs  :-[ and a few other issues that you may want to have a look at and address in need.

High   Unregistered users can add comments to the Blog.   To prevent spam, recommend that only users who have logged on can post comments. Users not logged in can only view.
High   You can purchase fractions of shares.   Bought 0.5 and 0.0111 of a share
Low   You cannot see what shares the other players hold.   Not sure if you want to keep the selections confidential, but it would be great to see what others are holding (i.e. Where did the leader get it right...)
Medium   Previous winners not provided for.   You should have a tab to view previous years winners/runner ups/etc.
Nice to have   Leaderboard to show % Growth.   I believe it would be a good idea to show the % growth of the portfolio on the leaderboard.
Nice to have   "Out of style" screen shows once you have purchased shares.   The screen provided (for a few seconds) after your purchase of shares is not in the same style as the rest of the site. It's just a white screen displaying "Saved" in the top left corner. If on a slow connection the user may think a problem is evident. Would be better if the screen either did not display during the "write" process, or displays with the same CSS as the rest of the site.
Nice to have   No Lines between holdings.   It would be advisable to have lines seperating each row in the holdings, especially if one has multiple shares.
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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 12:07:36 pm »
Great feedback Aragon!

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High   Unregistered users can add comments to the Blog.   To prevent spam, recommend that only users who have logged on can post comments. Users not logged in can only view.
I approved the comment thinking you wanted to see it, all comments need to be approved so we should be ok on the spam front!

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High   You can purchase fractions of shares.   Bought 0.5 and 0.0111 of a share
Well spotted, it should be fixed now.

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Medium   Previous winners not provided for.
Good idea, I'll add that when the time comes.

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Nice to have   Leaderboard to show % Growth.
Done.

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Nice to have   "Out of style"
Hmm for now I've shortened the time, I could remove the words completely, but I prefer to see something other than a blank screen. Adding the css here is surprisingly tough considering the way I load the next page.

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Nice to have   No Lines between holdings.
I'll work on that.

Then I need to plan a go live date. Any thoughts?

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2013, 12:51:32 pm »
Good stuff - will continue to check in my spare time and will advise if anything else is noted. Just some further comments -

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all comments need to be approved so we should be ok on the spam front
Are you sure you want to be spending all day approving/rejecting blog comments? Would it not be easier if only registered users were allowed to add, and then remove moderation/approval from this?
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for now I've shortened the time, I could remove the words completely, but I prefer to see something other than a blank screen
Perhaps add some additional wording and Centre it on the screen after a few line breaks - e.g. "Your purchase is being saved. please be patient", or something similar may look a bit better than just "Saved".
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I need to plan a go live date. Any thoughts?
I would still like to validate the calculations etc., e.g. purchase fees and price updates. Suppose that can only be conclusive after the overnight price update (I am assuming you update on the daily close?) I would recommend a start date of 1st May (with R500K if you'd like) if all else is equal. That should also give you enough time to "advertise"? However, knowing developers - you'd want this live today if possible - gotta show off the work  :)

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2013, 01:06:54 pm »
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Are you sure you want to be spending all day approving/rejecting blog comments? Would it not be easier if only registered users were allowed to add, and then remove moderation/approval from this?
True :)

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I would still like to validate the calculations etc., e.g. purchase fees and price updates. Suppose that can only be conclusive after the overnight price update (I am assuming you update on the daily close?) I would recommend a start date of 1st May (with R500K if you'd like) if all else is equal. That should also give you enough time to "advertise"? However, knowing developers - you'd want this live today if possible - gotta show off the work  :)
I update every 10 minutes, from the JSE website which updates every 15 minutes, so at best we're 15 minutes late with prices, at worst 25 minutes late... For the calculations I'm not bothering with strate or vat as the amounts are so small.

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I would recommend a start date of 1st May (with R500K if you'd like) if all else is equal. That should also give you enough time to "advertise"? However, knowing developers - you'd want this live today if possible - gotta show off the work
You know us well!

On the point I forgot previously, letting people see all the members holdings, I'm not sure. If it's a competition, someone may not want someone else copying his purchases. I have a few options: Keep everything closed; Show the previous months trades, but not the current months; Give the user the option if he wants to share. Maybe I'll bring it in for a vote once people actually start using the site.

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2013, 02:34:36 pm »
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Maybe I'll bring it in for a vote once people actually start using the site.
Second that
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I update every 10 minutes, from the JSE website
Will start checking the calculations, etc immediately then. Can you clear all my data from your database so that I can run a scenario please?
Also - I assume you deduct the fees from the available cash holdings and you are not incorporating this as a negative in the value of the shares.
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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2013, 03:05:46 pm »
Done, and yes I deduct fees from cash.

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Re: Wanted - testers for the competition
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2013, 04:00:30 pm »
A few more items that may need attention -
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At cash holdings of R400K, buying @ 260 per share allows you to purchase up to 153230 shares. Calculate it out and you have available cash of R 8.41 thereafter, so you could have bought 153233 shares. Seems you calculate the max shares allowed based on the max comm you will pay on the total available cash holding. Not a major issue.
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At cash holdings of R 94.86 you appear to allow the purchase of 1049 shares @ 9cents - Seems you are not taking the minimum comm of R120.00 into consideration at clculation of what you can purchase. (You do prevent the actual purchase from going through though). Not a major issue either.
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My previous blog comment is no longer viewable - was it cleaned/deleted?

Nothing else to report, all other calculations appear in order (although I have not bombarded the site with all variations).

Great job. :) :D 8) ;D
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