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Title: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: Hamster on January 16, 2017, 06:44:45 am
So this just happened:

Quote from: Magda Wierzycka
So once you have added all the costs of accessing ETFs you are paying more than you would for an actively managed unit trust.  That is what the ETF providers are skirting around all the time.  Since Sygnia always does things differently, we plan to launch ETFs later this year where we charge nil stockbroking and we guarantee a minimum bid/offer spread.  Let's see if we can shake things up a bit.  But frankly, even with best intentions, I don't think our ETFs will be as cheap as our unit trusts tracking the same market indices.

Source: https://www.platinumwealth.co.za/forum/Thread-Unit-Trusts?pid=1987#pid1987
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: JohnnyH on January 16, 2017, 07:54:48 am
Nice!

Always good to have more ETFs to choose from. I wonder what index they will track with their ETFs..

Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: Hamster on January 16, 2017, 08:06:46 am
As long as they have 10% caps on shares.

I'm hoping for something different but my guess is we'll see a Sygnia top 40 :(

They should create a pharamcutical ETF, both local and offshore (or maybe a combined one).
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: Patrick on January 16, 2017, 09:41:34 am
They are the cheapest Unit trusts, so hopefully they'll be really cheap in ETFs too. I need some competition for the expensive DBX trackers for my TFSAs.
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: Mr_Dividend on January 16, 2017, 10:00:09 am
Wow - she should really get into politics...

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So once you have added all the costs of accessing ETFs you are paying more than you would for an actively managed unit trust.

She is right if you compare some of the more expensive ETF's accessed by a full trading account VS. Sygnia's skeleton funds. But using absa etf platform or EE platform compared to most "normal" unit trusts? I would be very surprised.





Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: PlatinumWealth.co.za on January 16, 2017, 11:01:48 am
I would like some niche ETFs like a Food sector or actually yes a pharamcutical one.
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: Hamster on January 16, 2017, 11:07:28 am
Wow - she should really get into politics...

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So once you have added all the costs of accessing ETFs you are paying more than you would for an actively managed unit trust.

She is right if you compare some of the more expensive ETF's accessed by a full trading account VS. Sygnia's skeleton funds. But using absa etf platform or EE platform compared to most "normal" unit trusts? I would be very surprised.

Think she made a mistake with "actively managed" because earlier on in the post she specifically said she's compare index tracking UT's and ETFs.
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: Hamster on January 16, 2017, 11:08:39 am
They are the cheapest Unit trusts, so hopefully they'll be really cheap in ETFs too. I need some competition for the expensive DBX trackers for my TFSAs.

Agreed. A real alternative to DBXWD would be nice.

Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: czc on January 16, 2017, 12:19:54 pm
I would like a Vanguard total stock market index fund available for us locally.
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: PlatinumWealth.co.za on January 16, 2017, 12:32:24 pm
I would like a Vanguard total stock market index fund available for us locally.

That would be pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: MoneyChief on January 16, 2017, 02:26:48 pm
I would like to see:

1. World small cap ETF
2. World mid cap ETF
3. Local small cap ETF
4. Local long term gov bond ETF
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: RayRay on January 16, 2017, 05:48:11 pm
They are the cheapest Unit trusts, so hopefully they'll be really cheap in ETFs too. I need some competition for the expensive DBX trackers for my TFSAs.
This ^^^
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: PlatinumWealth.co.za on January 17, 2017, 11:34:28 am
I would like to see:

1. World small cap ETF
2. World mid cap ETF
3. Local small cap ETF
4. Local long term gov bond ETF

That just made my body tingle! YES.
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: NobodiesHero on January 17, 2017, 11:27:54 pm
The new Sygnia 4th Industrial Revolution fund will be out soon (might even be out already, haven't checked our site) which will be a cheap way for SAns to invest in the Alphabets, AAPLs, MSFTs etc
Title: Re: Sygnia ETFs coming
Post by: JAPalmer on January 18, 2017, 09:42:57 am
The new Sygnia 4th Industrial Revolution fund will be out soon (might even be out already, haven't checked our site) which will be a cheap way for SAns to invest in the Alphabets, AAPLs, MSFTs etc

It is available, crazy fees though...