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General Category => Shares => Topic started by: Hamster on January 16, 2017, 06:44:45 am
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So this just happened:
So once you have added all the costs of accessing ETFs you are paying more than you would for an actively managed unit trust. That is what the ETF providers are skirting around all the time. Since Sygnia always does things differently, we plan to launch ETFs later this year where we charge nil stockbroking and we guarantee a minimum bid/offer spread. Let's see if we can shake things up a bit. But frankly, even with best intentions, I don't think our ETFs will be as cheap as our unit trusts tracking the same market indices.
Source: https://www.platinumwealth.co.za/forum/Thread-Unit-Trusts?pid=1987#pid1987
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Nice!
Always good to have more ETFs to choose from. I wonder what index they will track with their ETFs..
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As long as they have 10% caps on shares.
I'm hoping for something different but my guess is we'll see a Sygnia top 40 :(
They should create a pharamcutical ETF, both local and offshore (or maybe a combined one).
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They are the cheapest Unit trusts, so hopefully they'll be really cheap in ETFs too. I need some competition for the expensive DBX trackers for my TFSAs.
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Wow - she should really get into politics...
So once you have added all the costs of accessing ETFs you are paying more than you would for an actively managed unit trust.
She is right if you compare some of the more expensive ETF's accessed by a full trading account VS. Sygnia's skeleton funds. But using absa etf platform or EE platform compared to most "normal" unit trusts? I would be very surprised.
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I would like some niche ETFs like a Food sector or actually yes a pharamcutical one.
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Wow - she should really get into politics...
So once you have added all the costs of accessing ETFs you are paying more than you would for an actively managed unit trust.
She is right if you compare some of the more expensive ETF's accessed by a full trading account VS. Sygnia's skeleton funds. But using absa etf platform or EE platform compared to most "normal" unit trusts? I would be very surprised.
Think she made a mistake with "actively managed" because earlier on in the post she specifically said she's compare index tracking UT's and ETFs.
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They are the cheapest Unit trusts, so hopefully they'll be really cheap in ETFs too. I need some competition for the expensive DBX trackers for my TFSAs.
Agreed. A real alternative to DBXWD would be nice.
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I would like a Vanguard total stock market index fund available for us locally.
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I would like a Vanguard total stock market index fund available for us locally.
That would be pretty damn awesome.
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I would like to see:
1. World small cap ETF
2. World mid cap ETF
3. Local small cap ETF
4. Local long term gov bond ETF
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They are the cheapest Unit trusts, so hopefully they'll be really cheap in ETFs too. I need some competition for the expensive DBX trackers for my TFSAs.
This ^^^
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I would like to see:
1. World small cap ETF
2. World mid cap ETF
3. Local small cap ETF
4. Local long term gov bond ETF
That just made my body tingle! YES.
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The new Sygnia 4th Industrial Revolution fund will be out soon (might even be out already, haven't checked our site) which will be a cheap way for SAns to invest in the Alphabets, AAPLs, MSFTs etc
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The new Sygnia 4th Industrial Revolution fund will be out soon (might even be out already, haven't checked our site) which will be a cheap way for SAns to invest in the Alphabets, AAPLs, MSFTs etc
It is available, crazy fees though...