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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2016, 09:53:24 pm »
Anybody know when DIVTRX is paying out again?

Saw a sens on twitter yesterday. Let me find one quick.

Here it is: http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mny_sens/coreshares-index-tracker-managers-rf-proprietary-limited-distribution-finalisation-announcement-divtrx-3/

+- 16 cents
EE paid the dividends to the investment account on Friday and to the TFSA this morning

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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2016, 06:00:26 pm »
DIVTRX recovering over the past week.
STXIND +2%
DIVTRX +4%

To rub salt into some wounds, here is a 5 day chart for those who fled to DBXUS.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2016, 06:19:17 pm by Orca »
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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2016, 01:53:45 pm »
Recovery of the financial sector has the DIVTRX leading the DBXUS by 5% and the STXIND by 2,5% over the past month.  :TU:

The USD/ZAR has corrected as Dawie Roodt predicted. Is 15,8 the new normal and time to buy USD?
Will the ZAR correct some more post Feb 24? Perhaps to 13,5 again?

« Last Edit: February 05, 2016, 02:07:12 pm by Orca »
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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2016, 02:36:35 pm »
Recovery of the financial sector has the DIVTRX leading the DBXUS by 5% and the STXIND by 2,5% over the past month.  :TU:

The USD/ZAR has corrected as Dawie Roodt predicted. Is 15,8 the new normal and time to buy USD?
Will the ZAR correct some more post Feb 24? Perhaps to 13,5 again?

Rand only improved due to weak dollar and uptick in commodity prices. Fundamentals for resources haven't changed at all, so Rand "strength" may not last.
Watch out for SONA and later the budget - both could move the Rand either way. I am betting weaker Rand, especially after SONA.

 

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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2016, 03:20:04 pm »
Sure. The USD has taken a knock but the ZAR has also strengthened causing a double effect. If you compare the ZAR to a basket of main currencies, it shows that it is gaining strength. 
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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2016, 05:26:28 pm »
Slight hijack, but it concerns these two ETF's - I'm trying to figure out which ETF's would be the best for a TFSA, as per my other thread. Is there any reason why the bulk being split between STXIND and DIVTRX would not be the best thing I could do? I know DIVTRX wobbled a bit due to the recent shenanigans, but as a long term holding, it still appears to be a good bet.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2016, 05:29:07 pm by Strive »

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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2016, 08:51:18 pm »
Difficult question as things seem to change in a heart beat lately. Financials and gold price cannot both go up simultaneously and this is a dilemma for DIVTRX plus the fact that retailers will be hit.
I too have no idea what to get into at this stage.

Zuma's speech on Thursday may be critical going forward but contrary to the negativity to it, I am sure he has been briefed by top economists on what to say that will benefit the ZAR and the up coming grading.
He also has to absolve himself from his moment of December madness.

Gordhan knows that he has more muscle now than he had before and can slice deeper into government spending without any Zuma interference. Zuma, unintentionally, has given him more power than he himself actually has and in my view, Gordhan has become the most powerful man in the SA government.
He will not fail us.

Until these 2 speeches are over, we will not know the direction we are headed.



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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2016, 11:18:47 pm »
I fully subscribe to Orca's above piece and only a decision should be taken once these two speeches are concluded.
However the ANC government are past masters at saying what they intend doing yet get no further than lying on some shelf - see NDP
Gordhan is up against two other communists in cabinet Davies and Patel and he has "the blade" to deal with as well, so I don't hold out much hope that Gordhan is going to get the latitude to change policy, which is so desperately needed. On the matter of "Feesmustfall" one already sees that the government has mouthed off that there will be no increases in 2016 (hardly a shining light for feesmustfall) and has set up a commission to look into university fees, with a conclusion date sometime after August this year. This is the start because next we will have parents stating that they don't want to pay school fees and yet another mass action party will be held.
I also don't know how Gordhan is going to address the issue of grants and old age pensions because government raided their contingency account to pay public sector salary increases, so they have no money. With falling tax receipts the government only has 2 choices 1) increase tax thresholds and brackets by a minimum of 4% to meet future needs or 2) borrow more money. Once 2 happens the World Bank will step in and we will without a shadow of a doubt we will get a junk bond rating and end up like Greece, Russia, Brazil et al.
Regrettably the government has looked to China to be their saviour which is indeed diabolical for this country as it is simply one way traffic where we import more than we export to them. They will end up paying for dams and whatever infrastructure that this ANC government requires and they will fund it, so ultimately the Chinese will colonise the country and as things are going the rest of Africa to boot.
So do I see a rah rah speech from Gordhan - not really, there is only one positive about SONA and the budget speech - both are happening ahead of elections in May 
 
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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2016, 10:10:53 am »
It would be rather fantastic to have a crystal ball roundabout now :P  But yes, will hold off on purchasing any shares until the speeches are over and there's some inkling of a smarter long-term play. Although, I'm not sure what actual difference it will make, seeing as you've got to invest somewhere.

I also tend to agree with what Orca said earlier in this post, about how the industrial sector is the beating heart of this country. Financials do seem to be akin to a crazed pinball machine at the moment. So....... reckon I'll be going with 50% in STXIND for now, rest to be determined.

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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2016, 06:50:12 pm »
Recovery of the financial sector has the DIVTRX leading the DBXUS by 5% and the STXIND by 2,5% over the past month.


That was a mere 3 trading days ago and things have improved since.
The DIVTRX and the DBXUS are retreating from each other in opposite directions and now....

DIVTRX beating the DBXUS by 13% over 4 weeks and the STXIND by 8% for the same period. Now I'm glad I did not rush blindly into the USD.  ;D

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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2016, 06:19:51 pm »
DIVTRX now beating the STXIND by 13% over 1 month and the DBX's by a whopping 20%.
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Re: STXIND vs DIVTRX
« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2016, 08:32:04 pm »
I considered selling nearly 10% lower  ??? :whistle: