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Patrick

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Re: SAB
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2015, 02:29:51 pm »
Thanks for that tmsf. If that's the case, then the holdings of all the other shares will rise by about 18.5% or so. That would mean that STXIND will have a holding in Naspers of 20.8%! That's quite high. At the moment I'm 50% STXIND and 50% DIVTRX, but I think I might go 33% STXIND and 67% DIVTRX in future to minimize my risk. It'll still mean I'll be around 10% invested in NPN though. More than I'd like, but I'll just have to hope Tencent continues strongly.

I don't think that will necessarily happen that way. I stand corrected here, but isn't the Indi basically the Top40 minus all the resources? So if SAB is gone there will be a spot open on the Top40. If that spot is filled with a non-resources company then that company will fall under the Indi and thus will form part of STXIND's holdings.

I might be misunderstanding how everything works though.

You're right, but at the moment, # 25 of the STXIND is the Distel group at 0.19%, so the new share in the index would be that size or smaller, and have no real effect on the big players up top.

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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2015, 03:43:51 pm »
SAB's future growth will come from the 25 to 40 year old up and coming emerging wealthy African consumer. What is being termed the African Renaissance or Afropolitan consumer. By 2050 Africa will have almost the same population as Asia as their populations flatten out and decline. Plus SAB is also reaping the benefits of merging their SA and African procurement businesses, modernising and getting efficiencies in the rest of Africa. I would not sell this one for love or money.

"And Hows yer Bush?" knows this very well and is trying to pick them up on the cheap.
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2015, 03:38:49 pm »
SABMiller bid could hit R840/share

Something to chew on when making decisions to hold/sell/buy more ..

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Van Cuyck also questions ABI’s ability to add long-term value. “SABMiller is already highly efficient,” he says. “There is probably also more opportunity in SABMiller as it exists today than as part of ABI.”


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Re: SAB
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2015, 10:28:35 am »

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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2015, 06:35:57 pm »
September 29, 2015 — 5:24 PM SAST Updated on September 29, 2015 — 5:43 PM SAST

Deutsche Bank, BNP Paribas, SocGen also submitted proposals
ABI, SAB have had informal contact since plan was disclosed

Anheuser-Busch InBev NV is lining up banks including Bank of America Corp. and Banco Santander SA to arrange as much as $70 billion in financing as it prepares to make a takeover proposal for SABMiller Plc, according to people familiar with the matter.
Deutsche Bank AG, BNP Paribas SA and Societe Generale SA have also submitted financing proposals to the world’s biggest brewer, said the people, asking not to be named as the matter is private. AB InBev is working with about 10 banks to arrange total financing of $50 billion to $70 billion, they said. Talks are ongoing and the timing of any offer will depend on finalizing the funding package, they said.
Since AB InBev’s intention to pursue a takeover of SABMiller was disclosed on Sept. 16, there has been informal contact between the companies, two of the people said. Any deal could value the smaller, London-listed brewer at more than $100 billion, according to analysts’ estimates.
SABMiller shares rose as much as 6.9 percent in London and closed 4.9 percent higher at 3,814 pence. AB InBev pared losses to close down 2.8 percent at 93.55 euros.
The acquisition of SABMiller would be the biggest in the industry’s history and cap more than a decade of consolidation across brewing companies. AB InBev may pay more than 4,200 pence for each share of SABMiller, according to data compiled by Bloomberg based on the average estimate of five analysts. That would value SABMiller at about 68 billion pounds ($103 billion).
SABMiller is signaling it may consider an offer of about 4,300 pence to 4,500 pence per share, two of the people said, adding that the valuation is still being discussed and will also depend on the structure of the offer.
The beer maker would probably raise about $60 billion of debt to finance the acquisition, Owen Murfin, a London-based portfolio manager on BlackRock Inc.’s global bond team, said last week. That would be a record bond offering, exceeding the $49 billion that Verizon Communications Inc. raised two years ago to fund its buyout of Vodafone Group Plc’s stake in a wireless venture.
Under the U.K. Takeover Panel rules, AB InBev has till 5 p.m. on Oct. 14 to make an offer or announce it doesn’t intend to proceed. SABMiller may also ask the panel for an extension.
Spokesmen for AB InBev and SABMiller declined to comment. Representatives for BofA, Deutsche Bank, Santander and SocGen also declined to comment. Officials at BNP Paribas didn’t respond to requests to comment.

InBev Said to Line Up BofA, Santander on SABMiller Financing

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« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2015, 05:02:13 am »
SAB Rejects another offer from ABinBev:

Confident that it occupies an unassailable position in emerging markets, the board of SABMiller has rejected a third offer from the world’s biggest brewer AB InBev, arguing that it undervalues the company.

“AB InBev is disappointed that the board of SABMiller has rejected both of these prior approaches without any meaningful engagement,” the maker of Becks, Corona and Budweiser said. “AB InBev believes that the revised cash proposal of £42.15 per share is at a level that the board of SABMiller should recommend.”

The SABMiller board did not agree. “SABMiller is the crown jewel of the global brewing industry, uniquely positioned to continue to generate decades of standalone future volume and value growth for all SABMiller shareholders from highly attractive markets,” said Jan du Plessis, chairman of SABMiller. “AB InBev needs SABMiller but has made opportunistic and highly conditional proposals, elements of which have been deliberately designed to be unattractive to many of our shareholders. AB InBev is very substantially undervaluing SABMiller.”

But even more interestingly:

What is clear is that ABI views Africa as a critical driver of growth for the combined company. To show its commitment to the continent, the company plans a secondary listing in Johannesburg and a local board. “We would highlight that about 10% of SABMiller shares are held in South Africa,” said Mundy. “The secondary listing of ABI shares serves to appease local shareholders (including the Public Investment Corp., a 3% shareholder of SAB stock).”

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Re: SAB
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2015, 04:01:11 pm »

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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2015, 07:21:29 pm »
I did something I never thought I would - cashed in my SAB at around 760...  :(

The first share I ever owned - served me very well. At least I'm on the CGT side of the tax hammer.
Always thought this would be the one that would be passed from generation to generation starting something of a 'small legacy'.

Then read a lot and some more and by accident tuned-in to the money show on 702 on my way home somewhere last week and realised that I cannot and should not hold on forever.
I've already made this mistake a couple of times as "I want to invest, not trade"...

I simply don't have a solid enough argument to question Garth Mackenzie et al's "take the money and run" stance on SAB.
Even if the 'big deal' happens, a helluva lot of good news is already priced in, in anticipation... and if it doesn't, well then I suppose a drop will be inevitable.

There's a lot of costs to be saved in SAB and InBev will likely be able to do so (http://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/companies-and-deals/sabmiller-better-get-ready-for-a-ceo-who-doesnt-like-to-have-fun/), but will that be enough?
ABInB wants Africa and they can only get it through SAB - but that's a lot of baggage to carry for a short trip...

In a way, I hope I'm wrong about my sale.
But for now, I'm pulling a Patrick and heading more towards the indexes to ride out the storms (INDI and DIVTRX being at the top of my list). Doubt that going forward 'megabrew' would be able to consistently outperform that which one can already earn with a lot less risk and panic via an index/ETF.

I might even wager a bet on more Sasol and some Discovery who I think represent some better and honest 'blue-chip' JSE value without having to work too hard for it.

SAB will remain firmly on my watchlist though... however long they remain on the JSE.

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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2015, 06:25:54 am »
Personally think you did the right thing. Wish my wife would also sell. I should, at least, get a great "told you so" moment out of it.  I'm petty that way.   :whistle:

Just a thought - might be worth picking up some Taste and/or Aspen for the long term.

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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2015, 07:39:14 am »
Personally think you did the right thing. Wish my wife would also sell. I should, at least, get a great "told you so" moment out of it.  I'm petty that way.   :whistle:

Just a thought - might be worth picking up some Taste and/or Aspen for the long term.

I said this a month ago and I will say it again. I don't think this deal is going to happen. If I were you I would really get on your wife to sell those shares ASAP. After tomorrow, once the deal has failed, SAB shares are gonna go right back down again. So maybe tell your wife she can sell SAB today at a premium and buy em all back on Thursday for a discount?

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Re: SAB
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2015, 09:07:10 am »
It is done... although very conditional at this point.
Only time will tell whether this will be good or bad.

Well, I made my bed...

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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2015, 09:15:58 am »
Wonder what this will mean for the JSE?
1) If the deal goes through will AB InBnec/SABMiller still have a secondary listing or will they just pack up and move to Brussels/New York?
2) As most unit trust and ETF index's includes these shares will their unit price rise or fall?

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Re: SAB
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2015, 09:59:15 am »
SABMiller plc ("SABMiller") and Anheuser-Busch InBev SA/NV ("AB InBev")

Agreement in principle and extension of PUSU deadline

The Boards of AB InBev (Euronext: ABI) (NYSE: BUD) and SABMiller (LSE: SAB) (JSE: SAB) announce that they have reached agreement in principle on the key terms of a possible recommended offer to be made by AB InBev for the entire issued and to be issued share capital of SABMiller (the "Possible Offer").

Terms of Possible Offer

Under the terms of the Possible Offer, SABMiller shareholders would be entitled to receive GBP 44.00 per share in cash, with a partial share alternative ("PSA") available for approximately 41% of the SABMiller shares.

The all-cash offer represents a premium of approximately 50% to SABMiller's closing share price of GBP 29.34 on 14 September 2015 (being the last business day prior to renewed speculation of an approach from AB InBev).

The PSA consists of 0.483969 unlisted shares and GBP 3.7788 in cash for each SABMiller share, equivalent to a value of GBP 39.03 per SABMiller share on 12 October 2015, representing a premium of approximately 33% to the closing SABMiller share price of GBP 29.34 as of 14 September 2015. Further details of the PSA are set out below.

In addition, under the Possible Offer, SABMiller shareholders would be entitled to any dividends declared or paid by SABMiller in the ordinary course in respect of any completed six-month period ended 30 September or 31 March prior to completion of the possible transaction, which shall not exceed USD 0.2825 per share for the period ended 30 September 2015 and a further USD 0.9375 per share for the period ended 31 March 2016 (totalling USD 1.22 per share) and shall not exceed an amount to be agreed between AB InBev and SABMiller in respect of periods thereafter (which shall be disclosed in any announcement of a firm intention to make an offer).

The Board of SABMiller has indicated to AB InBev that it would be prepared unanimously to recommend the all-cash offer of GBP 44.00 per SABMiller share to SABMiller shareholders, subject to their fiduciary duties and satisfactory resolution of the other terms and conditions of the Possible Offer.



 
 

Antitrust and reverse break fee

In connection with the Possible Offer, AB InBev would agree to a "best efforts" commitment to obtain any regulatory clearances required to proceed to closing of the transaction. In addition, AB InBev would agree to a reverse break fee of USD 3 billion payable to SABMiller in the event that the transaction fails to close as a result of the failure to obtain regulatory clearances or the approval of AB InBev shareholders.

Pre-conditions

The announcement of a formal transaction would be subject to the following matters:

a)   unanimous recommendation by the Board of SABMiller in respect of the all-cash offer, and the execution of irrevocable undertakings to vote in favour of the transaction from members of the SABMiller Board, in a form acceptable to AB InBev;

b)   the execution of irrevocable undertakings to vote in favour of the transaction and to elect for the PSA from SABMiller's two major shareholders, Altria Group, Inc. and BevCo Ltd., in each case in respect of all of their shareholding and in a form acceptable to AB InBev and SABMiller;

c)   the execution of irrevocable undertakings to vote in favour of the transaction from AB InBev's largest shareholders, the Stichting Anheuser-Busch InBev, EPS Participations SaRL and BRC SaRL in a form acceptable to AB InBev and SABMiller;

d)   satisfactory completion of customary due diligence; and

e)   final approval by the Board of AB InBev.

The Board of AB InBev fully supports the terms of this Possible Offer and expects (subject to the matters above) to give its formal approval immediately prior to announcement.

AB InBev reserves the right to waive in whole or in part any of the pre-conditions to making an offer set out in this announcement, other than c) above which will not be waived.

The conditions of the transaction will be customary for a combination of this nature, and will include approval by both companies' shareholders and receipt of antitrust and regulatory approvals.

In view of the timetable for obtaining some of these approvals, AB InBev envisages proceeding by way of a pre-conditional scheme of arrangement in accordance with the Code.

The cash consideration under the transaction would be financed through a combination of AB InBev's internal financial resources and new third party debt.

Further details of the PSA

The PSA comprises up to 326 million shares, which will be available for approximately 41% of the SABMiller shares. These shares would take the form of a separate class of AB InBev shares (the "Restricted Shares")1, with the following characteristics:
 
·      Unlisted and not admitted to trading on any stock exchange;
·      Subject to a five-year lock-up from closing;
·      Convertible into AB InBev ordinary shares on a one for one basis after the end of that five year period;
·      Ranking equally with AB InBev ordinary shares with regards to dividends and voting rights; and
·      Director nomination rights.
 
SABMiller shareholders who elect for the partial share alternative will receive 0.483969 Restricted Shares2 and GBP 3.7788 in cash for each SABMiller share.

1 The Possible Offer will involve the formation of a new combined company (“NewCo”) expected to be incorporated in Belgium, which would acquire 100% of AB InBev. AB InBev shareholders would receive one NewCo ordinary share for each AB InBev share. References to the Restricted Shares and ordinary shares arising upon conversion are references to shares in NewCo. References to AB InBev shall be construed accordingly, where appropriate

2 In the event that elections under the partial share alternative are received for more than 326 million Restricted Shares then such elections will be reduced on a pro rata basis.


Extension of the PUSU deadline

In accordance with Rule 2.6(a) of the Code, AB InBev was required, by not later than 5.00 pm on 14 October 2015, to either announce a firm intention to make an offer for SABMiller in accordance with Rule 2.7 of the Code or announce that it does not intend to make an offer for SABMiller, in which case the announcement will be treated as a statement to which Rule 2.8 of the Code applies.

In accordance with Rule 2.6(c) of the Code, the Board of SABMiller has requested that the Panel on Takeovers and Mergers (the "Panel") extends the relevant deadline, as referred to above, to enable the parties to continue their talks regarding the Possible Offer. In the light of this request, an extension has been granted by the Panel and AB InBev must, by not later than 5.00 pm on 28 October 2015, either announce a firm intention to make an offer for SABMiller in accordance with Rule 2.7 of the Code or announce that it does not intend to make an offer for SABMiller, in which case the announcement will be treated as a statement to which Rule 2.8 of the Code applies. This deadline will only be extended with the consent of the Panel in accordance with Rule 2.6(c) of the Code.

AB InBev reserves the following rights:

a)   to introduce other forms of consideration and/or to vary the composition of consideration;

b)   to implement the transaction through or together with a subsidiary of AB InBev or NewCo or a company which will become a subsidiary of AB InBev or NewCo;

c)   to make an offer (including the all-cash offer and PSA) for SABMiller at any time on less favourable terms:

(i)   with the agreement or recommendation of the Board of SABMiller;

(ii)   if a third party announces a firm intention to make an offer for SABMiller on less favourable terms; or

(iii)  following the announcement by SABMiller of a whitewash transaction pursuant to the Code; and

d)   to reduce its offer (including the all-cash offer and PSA) by the amount of any dividend that is announced, declared, made or paid by SABMiller prior to completion, save for ordinary course dividends declared or paid prior to completion, which shall not exceed USD 0.2825 per share for the period ended 30 September 2015 and a further USD 0.9375 per share for the period ended 31 March 2016 (totalling USD 1.22 per share) and shall not exceed an amount to be agreed between AB InBev and SABMiller in respect of periods thereafter (which shall be disclosed in any announcement of a firm intention to make an offer).

The announcement does not constitute an offer or impose any obligation on AB InBev to make an offer, nor does it evidence a firm intention to make an offer within the meaning of the Code. There can be no certainty that a formal offer will be made.

A further announcement will be made when appropriate.

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Re: SAB
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2015, 11:50:07 am »
Just a thought - might be worth picking up some Taste and/or Aspen for the long term.

You might want to stay away from Taste especially if you are a dividend man. They discussed it on JSEDirect last week. Or maybe the week before. Anyways, getting the operating licences for Dominoes and Starbucks means Taste will be spending A LOT OF CAPITAL over the next couple of years opening HUNDREDS of franchises for the two chains. Taste was very open about the fact that they will not be very profitable for a while.

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« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2015, 01:49:23 pm »
AB InBev would agree to a reverse break fee of USD 3 billion payable to SABMiller in the event that the transaction fails to close as a result of the failure to obtain regulatory clearances or the approval of AB InBev shareholders.
Just thought I would highlight that from my earlier post.

(Final offer date now extended to 28/10/15)