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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #135 on: February 10, 2014, 11:11:15 am »
Thanks  ;D
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #136 on: March 03, 2014, 02:07:50 pm »
My look @ List.

ABL
OCE
GLN
CFR
BVT
SAB
MTN
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #137 on: March 03, 2014, 06:46:29 pm »
I will also have a look at your list tonight as I need to sell some of my CML and PNC this new tax year.
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #138 on: March 04, 2014, 08:15:01 am »
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #139 on: March 04, 2014, 01:08:57 pm »
Checked the technicals purely for my own use and not for advice.

ABL. In a long term down trend. Trading under the 200SMA and no reversal seen yet.

OCE. Looks OK for long term. Won't shoot the lights out though.

GLN. Chart not responding.

CFR. A good and steady performer. Running up with a high PE for a long time but remains a great stock to hold.

BVT. Looks good but has had some large draw downs that will worry me too much.

SAB. Great stock with good growth but will have to wait for a pull back after the gains of late.

MTN. Looking at the chart makes me sea sick.

I must keep OCE, CFR and SAB in my radar.
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #140 on: March 04, 2014, 03:28:33 pm »
Thanks for the info Orca. Attached is GLN, use code GLEN.L for graph.

I agree with all your comments, I think though that ABL might have future upturn potential. Will keep an eye on it.

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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #141 on: March 06, 2014, 09:28:53 am »

                                             High               Low (2013)               PE                    NAV
OCE                                        R97               R67                          16                    R15.59
ABL  (Had rights issue)             R32               R9.35 (2014)             23                    R10.67

UT Holdings  Dec 2013        Sep 2013
OCE        6,133,309       3,899,008
ABL         128,438,229   38,334,058     -  Coronation Asset Management - 16%

Potencial :

OCE   Low / Medium
ABL    High - Long term

Risk:

OCE   Low / Medium
ABL    High - Nose bleed high.




OCE just went under R80
 
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #142 on: March 06, 2014, 11:13:24 am »
Bought ABL  ???  8)


Update.

My Port

100% GLN

My Port & Brother Darryl and other Brother Darril

100% ABL           

Some1 else port

100% OCE


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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #143 on: March 10, 2014, 01:54:55 pm »
 :wall:  :whistle:  :wall:  :frustrated:  :laugh:
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #144 on: March 10, 2014, 08:02:07 pm »
Feeling lonely with negative returns. Don't. Most of us are there. Look at my PNC. Down over 10% in 2 days and I'm not worried at all. It will recover eventually.  :TU:
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #145 on: March 12, 2014, 08:59:46 am »
From now I is using Bloomberg graphs (1 year w 20 days Bollinger bands)

 
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #146 on: March 16, 2014, 09:54:19 am »
Here you go jaDEB, have this for Sunday breakfast before you take your tablets.   :whistle: :frustrated:

Griffin is obviously sitting at the pool, basking in the golden  ;) sunlight ...  good for you. (PS. I frikkin hate SL  :wall:)

I think that with copper turning, I should be at my lows for GLN.

African bank, I think it can go lower, but I am hoping that their next results, news should be more possitive. This 1 is very risky ....

OCE seems to be ok, plodding allong, no fireworks.

I will tell my wife tonight while she is watching strickly come dancing ... upset her day as well ...  :laugh:

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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #147 on: March 16, 2014, 08:05:54 pm »
SGL has been the gold company to attract all the money so far, I think the rest will now play catchup, So HAR ,GFI and the rest should recover as well

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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #148 on: March 18, 2014, 08:21:27 am »
The use of Bollinger Bands varies widely among traders. Some traders buy when price touches the lower Bollinger Band and exit when price touches the moving average in the center of the bands. Other traders buy when price breaks above the upper Bollinger Band or sell when price falls below the lower Bollinger Band.[4] Moreover, the use of Bollinger Bands is not confined to stock traders; options traders, most notably implied volatility traders, often sell options when Bollinger Bands are historically far apart or buy options when the Bollinger Bands are historically close together, in both instances, expecting volatility to revert towards the average historical volatility level for the stock.
 
When the bands lie close together, a period of low volatility is indicated.[5] Conversely, as the bands expand, an increase in price action/market volatility is indicated.[5] When the bands have only a slight slope and track approximately parallel for an extended time, the price will generally be found to oscillate between the bands as though in a channel.
 
Traders are often inclined to use Bollinger Bands with other indicators to confirm price action. In particular, the use of oscillator-like Bollinger Bands will often be coupled with a non-oscillator indicator-like chart patterns or a trendline. If these indicators confirm the recommendation of the Bollinger Bands, the trader will have greater conviction that the bands are predicting correct price action in relation to market volatility

Effectiveness[edit]
 
Various studies of the effectiveness of the Bollinger Band strategy have been performed with mixed results. In 2007 Lento et al. published an analysis using a variety of formats (different moving average timescales, and standard deviation ranges) and markets (e.g., Dow Jones and Forex).[6] Analysis of the trades, spanning a decade from 1995 onwards, found no evidence of consistence performance over the standard "buy and hold" approach. The authors did, however, find that a simple reversal of the strategy ("contrarian Bollinger Band") produced positive returns in a variety of markets.
 
Similar results were found in another study, which concluded that Bollinger Band trading strategies may be effective in the Chinese marketplace, stating: "Finally, we find significant positive returns on buy trades generated by the contrarian version of the moving-average crossover rule, the channel breakout rule, and the Bollinger Band trading rule, after accounting for transaction costs of 0.50 percent."[7] (By "the contrarian version", they mean buying when the conventional rule mandates selling, and vice versa.)
 
A paper from 2008 uses Bollinger Bands in forecasting the yield curve.[8]
 
Companies like Forbes suggest that the use of Bollinger Bands is a simple and often an effective strategy but stop-loss orders should be used to mitigate losses from market pressure.
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Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« Reply #149 on: March 18, 2014, 10:30:19 am »
My view of the BB'S is this. Stocks that have been in a steady non volatile uptrend will bounce between the BBM and BBU. ie the middle band and the upper band. Once they get more volatile, they will bounce between the BBL and push the BBU higher.
The more volatile a stock is, the less they respect these bands and push the BBL downwards.
CML is a perfect example. For years she bounced off the BBM and as she got a bit more volatile due to the higher PE, she started to disrespect the BBM and now respects the BBL?
Another one would be OMN.
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