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« Reply #120 on: April 21, 2015, 11:38:19 am »
Ja, get where you coming from - but I would find it had to have all my capital in SA, hell, most of us are trying to get some of it out!

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« Reply #121 on: April 21, 2015, 01:08:51 pm »
Ja, get where you coming from - but I would find it had to have all my capital in SA, hell, most of us are trying to get some of it out!

And foreigners are trying to get their money in.
I started here with nothing and still have most of it left.

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« Reply #122 on: April 21, 2015, 02:39:17 pm »
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This too is my path :) I wish to follow. 35. House is paid off, 3 rentals (2 are townhouses(bonded) and 1 is cottage on paid off property), in the process of acquiring a 2nd easy to run small business. I'm all for easy to manage passive income streams with minimal effort. I'm starting to realize it's rare where you see the returns else where like in profitable small businesses started or bought at the right price, although let me say finding them is a task on it's own. Stock market and property included.

I think a separate early retirement thread is a great idea Patrick, especially for those that have done it. Would love to hear Mr_Dividends story too and ask questions as they come to mind.

Some business's are more passive than others! What where you thinking of for the second stream? Always thought a DVD rental shop in the right area would be about as easy a business to run as you could get. As to actual property to let, done well I am sure it's great. Prefer listed property although yields are slightly lower initially, but I like their liquidity, wide risk base and faster capital growth on the whole. Not having someone telling you that the geyser has blown in the middle of the night or worse, they've lost their job and have no intention of moving out  - that just a bonus. I know one guy that only takes government employees with housing allowances (get's paid directly and seldom fired) and it seems to work well.

I always like to have, back up plans - one very viable one is that is that although our house is not particular big, the plot (also not particularly big at just over 700m2)  stretches road to road - and at the back have a large 85m2 brick workshop with obviously it's own entrance and parking. Could make two quite nice self catering units - which I understand is needed in this town, and would be fairly busy. But having had an (largely unsuccessful) B&B before, I would rather that garage was filled with tools and wood than guests. But the idea is there and the ROI would be pretty decent as it's paid off. Might be a plan if my wife decided she did not need her studio (2 garages we had in front) and they could become my work shop.

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« Reply #123 on: April 21, 2015, 03:22:32 pm »
Always thought a DVD rental shop in the right area would be about as easy a business to run as you could get.

Uh-uh, not any-more, being replaced by streaming.

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« Reply #124 on: April 21, 2015, 03:34:53 pm »
To true MP - I haven't visited a DVD shop for over a year.

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« Reply #125 on: May 02, 2015, 08:02:20 pm »
Ja, get where you coming from - but I would find it had to have all my capital in SA, hell, most of us are trying to get some of it out!

And foreigners are trying to get their money in.
First post here although I did peek in couple of times earlier. We are foreigners in SA although permanent residents since a long time. About 80% of our investment is in SA and I personally know couple of foreigners that have invested here. Of late, there has been some cause of concern, however, one can only hope things will get better. Such a beautiful country deserves a stable future.

Enough digression from original topic. Interesting blog Orca. Makes us want to consider Portugal for our next residency. :)

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« Reply #126 on: May 03, 2015, 12:08:08 pm »
Welcome aboard Residentsa. Politically Portugal seems to have the least problems in the EU.
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« Reply #127 on: May 03, 2015, 03:08:27 pm »
We are up in the far north of Portugal near the Spanish border and not much English is spoken here. The lingo is just too difficult to learn but we can by now understand the basics of Portuguese.
When our rental agreement expires next July, we will move south where English is widely spoken due to the large Brit population there.

I also looked at going to the Americas before deciding on coming here. Belize was on my radar as English is also widely spoken there in the coastal towns. They also invite pensioners and investors to retire there with a very favourable tax regime. Many north Americans have taken up this offer. The same with Panama.
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« Reply #128 on: May 14, 2015, 11:11:04 pm »
I have neglected my retirement blog so here is an update.
Many years ago, Spain and Portugal had a conference about how to share the world between them as they were the main countries annexing foreign territories and were sure to rule the whole world between them as they were the strongest seafaring nations at the time.
Portugal was stuck between the ocean and Spain and could not extend their country due to Spain's superiority and strength so instead went abroad to annex many foreign countries. Portugal became strong especially with Brazil and African countries.
Unfortunately for Portugal, these countries eventually got independence and Portugal had to retreat back to it's corner.
A mighty country was back to being four times smaller than the UK and can easily fit into the Western Cape.

The reason I stated the above is my prejudiced and perhaps biased thinking that Porras are all plain "Grocery Shop owners" with no more brains but counting money.

Now that I live here, I can see the difference between first and third world countries. Everything is so well oiled here in every aspect. The people here are comparative in intellect to all western EU countries and my comparison  to Grocery Shop owners has disappeared.   



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« Reply #129 on: May 14, 2015, 11:59:28 pm »
As I was saying. The Porras had to preserve their food on the long excursions that they had to endure to get to the Americas and the African countries so had to develop methods to preserve the food on their ventures. This made them inventive and very successful in this. Portugal has managed to preserve food in manners that no other country has surpassed. To this day, they have kept this accolade.
There is no other country as Portugal in the EU where every part of a pig is consumed. What cannot be eaten  fresh is smoked or dried.  Pig snouts, pig ears, tongues and all are smoked or dried and hung in homes on the rafters and sold in supermarkets.
No big deal as they even eat sharks here. If it moves, eat it.
Tonight I bought fish that had a name that I could not translate at the time and fried it. It was sooo good and tasty. Upon translation, I found that it was Blue Shark.
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« Reply #130 on: June 10, 2015, 01:15:32 am »
We also have load shedding here. At 11.30 pm some street lights switch off. At 12 pm, half switch off.
This is still enough to walk without total darkness.
It is now midnight and 27 Celsius so cannot sleep and standing on the balcony, I am watching single girls walking unafraid down the street by themselves without fear of being accosted. They will not be as it is totally unknown and unheard of here.
 
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« Reply #131 on: June 10, 2015, 08:24:36 am »
I am watching single girls walking unafraid down the street by themselves without fear of being accosted. They will not be as it is totally unknown and unheard of here.

LOL, u sound like Ted Bundy .... :LHST:
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« Reply #132 on: June 15, 2015, 03:23:32 pm »
Last night was browsing this website - surprised to see quite a bit in my price range - 50 -100k Euro's. Space for a veggie garden.

http://www.pureportugal.co.uk/

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« Reply #133 on: June 18, 2015, 10:04:58 am »
Apparently people who retire early have some common characteristics according to Warren Ingram - Moneyweb article:

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mymoney/moneyweb-financial-planning/want-to-retire-early/

I have had the privilege of working with many retirees over the last 19 years. A large number of whom retired successfully and far younger than age 65. It has been interesting to note how many of the people who retired early have some common characteristics. If you want to be financially free as early as possible, it might help you to know what they had in common.

They are worried about dying young

Most of the people I have met who have retired early had an overriding fear that they would retire at a normal age and then pass away within a year or two. It is interesting to note that most of them had an experience where their fathers or other family members had this bad luck and it created a lasting impression on them. In many instances this fear was the main driving force for many of their other decisions around money. If you want to achieve financial freedom early, you need to find a source of motivation that will enable you to prioritise this goal so that you can avoid many of the wealth traps that prevent others from achieving their financial goals.

Get and stay married

It is remarkable how many successfully retired people have only been married once and have had a generally happy marriage. Almost all of them work on their financial goals together. When they attend financial planning meetings, they do so together and they have general agreement on their financial goals. Money is rarely a source of conflict in these relationships. This is enormously helpful and you always have a willing “training partner” to keep you motivated to reach your financial goals.

They are happy with what they have

Financial freedom is different for everybody, some people will be happy to live on a monthly amount of R30 000 while others cannot get by with anything less than R200 000 per month. You need to find a way to be happy with what you have and not constantly want more. People who earn a lot of money but are never happy with what they have, are NOT going to achieve financial freedom… ever. This is one of the keys to financial success, it is easier to save and build up your investments if you are not constantly paying off your credit card because you HAD to go on that wonderful skiing holiday like your friends did last winter.

Their parents showed the way

Successful retirees did not necessarily have wealthy families and nor were they particularly financially sophisticated but very often their parents were prudent with money. They instilled an ethic in their children that saving was important. Many of these successful retirees had to work for money as children. Sometimes it was part-time jobs during holidays or working around the house for pocket money. Very few of them were simply given everything they wanted. This is a wonderful lesson for parents today.

Money was not a source of trouble

Finally, they tend to live a stable and predictable financial life. Almost all of them planned their major expenses carefully and they rarely use debt. Vehicles are purchased with cash, credit cards are cleared monthly and they have money saved for emergencies. They tend to budget consistently and save every month. When asked about how they dealt with financial shocks, I was surprised to learn that they had less financial emergencies than most other people. On the surface it might seem like they were lucky but I realised that they tend to plan for rainy days. If they had a financial setback they worked really hard to re-establish their emergency funds quickly so that they could deal with any new problems.

Financial freedom or early retirement takes a lot of sacrifice and hard work –  but it is possible for anybody.

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« Reply #134 on: June 18, 2015, 10:51:02 am »
I'm a huge fan of Warren Ingram, he just makes sense. These commonalities are very similar to a lot of the points mentioned in The millionaire next door, which is a great read, but if you're in a rush the wikipedia page does a great summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_Next_Door