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What would you buy

Glencore
2 (25%)
Harmony
1 (12.5%)
Oceana
2 (25%)
ArcelorMittal
1 (12.5%)
African Bank
2 (25%)

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Orca

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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2014, 06:53:05 pm »
Sorry to hijack your thread jaDEB. I'm done venting now.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 07:04:04 pm by Orca »
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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2014, 10:37:53 pm »
how much brokerage and tax did you pay buying and selling CML ORCA? you could have made alot more by just holding and selling later. just saying. not trying to be confrontational. ;)
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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2014, 10:48:57 am »
how much brokerage and tax did you pay buying and selling CML ORCA? you could have made alot more by just holding and selling later. just saying. not trying to be confrontational. ;)

No prob Neil.  :TU: Keeps me busy.
Had I stayed in CML without selling and re buying since 2009, I would have made 1400% but I ended up with 380%.
I am now holding for the 3 year tax thingy.
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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2014, 11:13:35 am »

Had I stayed in CML without selling and re buying since 2009, I would have made 1400% but I ended up with 380%.


Damn, I am going outside and cry uncontrollably ...  1400 %  :frustrated:  :frustrated:  :frustrated:  :'( , nevermind moving to Portugal, you could have bought it.
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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2014, 01:06:09 pm »

Had I stayed in CML without selling and re buying since 2009, I would have made 1400% but I ended up with 380%.


Damn, I am going outside and cry uncontrollably ...  1400 %  :frustrated:  :frustrated:  :frustrated:  :'( , nevermind moving to Portugal, you could have bought it.

Sorry. That is an old figure. It is 1860% without divies re invested. Now go back outside and sob some more.
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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2014, 05:12:14 pm »
Thanks for all the votes.

Gln / Oce seams to be the better one's
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2014, 08:27:31 pm »
I am surprised that nobody on this forum has ever mentioned Powerstocks. These okes put their own money in their analysis first and then open it to the public. No it's not like any of the other share related websites that I have ever seen. These okes started their analysis about 5 years ago and developed share trading strategies based on principles that is used globally. They looked at the okes that made the big bucks and applied those theories to the JSE. They have a lot of strategies and they keep improving on them. Read their website www.powerstocks.co.za.

This is the truth and I have cut it from their website:

PowerStocks Research is the first (and as at 17/01/2013 the only) JSE Technical Analysis (TA) research firm that uses JSE market breadth, available to the private investing public. We started out as a private investing club that conducted unique quantitative research for their own JSE investment purposes. The need for this was borne out of a lack of local public research on the topic of Strategy Indexing (mechanical stock picking methods), and quantitative breadth-based Market Timing Strategies specific to the JSE.

Guess what, the okes were so good, that Sharenet "bought" them however, they still do their own thing. Guess what? These fund managers, even they subscribe to Powerstocks!!! Why pay a fund manager if you can do it yourself?

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2014, 07:37:53 pm »
Have you seen the price of the software? Then you also need to attend a course to learn how to use it. And pay more for that as well.
The reason why we don't buy it is because it is so complicated and we might not understand how to use it even after the course. 
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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2014, 08:30:10 pm »
No Orca, you got it all wrong. Attend one of their free seminars if you can. Send them a mail and tell them you are interested and when are they having their next show and tell. As far as I know you don't pay for the software. You pay the private individual membership fee. You don't even have to go for the full membership upfront.

Complicated software, I promise you that it is not complicated.

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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2014, 11:23:45 am »
I dont buy it, I written software myself for the NASDAQ that pulls all the stocks and information about the stocks from the net and I can write all sorts of BS algorithms that can tell you to buy/sell this or that. Looks like real BS to me, no offence. Further if the software was so good then why are they selling it, if the software was genuine then they would keep it to themselves and under lock and key.

Not for me thank you very much, besides if I wanted software like that Id write it myself.



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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2014, 05:26:47 pm »
Neil firstly, you subscribe to their service and get the software. You don't pay for the service and then they kick you out the door.

Secondly, a heng of a lot of okes subscribe to them. What if those okes have an edge or angle that you don't have and it could have made a serious difference on your bottom line?

Thirdly, how can you say something is rubbish if you have not even tried a 1 month subscription. What do you have to lose? What if the service they supply is pretty good? I say, don't byte it till you have tried it. I will put my head on a block that they can bring value to the table. Do you really think that okes would put their own money on something that is a fly-by-night product?

Let's put it this way. Say you learn just one thing from them or their product and that leads to an increase of 10% in your profits or helps you from not losing money, would that not have made it a pretty good "investment"?

I say again. Contact them and attend one of their show and tell seminars.

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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2014, 10:43:15 pm »
No. I don't trade shares anymore. I can't wait 3 years to make a profit! I trade futures.

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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2014, 08:31:12 am »
Futures are riskier than trading options.
With options you have so many options (is that a pun ?)
Eg..
Long Straddle
Bull-Call-Spread
Bull-Put-Spread
Bear-Put-Spread
Bear-Call-Spread
Short Straddle
Butterfly
Strangle
Short-Butterfly
Short-Strangle

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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2014, 10:06:25 am »
Lol I used all those "Options" last night  :LHST:

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Re: My look at shares
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2014, 10:02:46 pm »
Top40 futures on the Safex exchange.