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Fawkes85

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Re: Long Term Portfolios.
« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2015, 11:10:14 am »
Are you invested in all of those? Including the funds?

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« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2015, 10:53:35 pm »
Well, that's .... ummm... good. Beating inflation is good I suppose.
I started here with nothing and still have most of it left.

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« Reply #77 on: October 25, 2015, 11:28:20 pm »
My portfolio. You can't be successful in all.
One year returns with no divies reinvested and I have not been in them for a full year.

ADI. +73%
PGR.+32%
CIL. +15%
MTA. -19% My oldest stock but only -5% since bought.
DIVTRX. +18%

I started here with nothing and still have most of it left.

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« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2015, 12:46:36 am »
Yes i am. Started of with just funds years ago, move to Equities over the last year.

I have moved a lot of my capital out of the funds and into Equities, as much as I can, for now.

And yes I know its not the most successful of investments, but I have beaten inflation, without taken into account dividends. And taken into
account that I have only been doing this for a year, I am pleased, but not over the moon with my effort.

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« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2015, 07:08:19 am »
If I can give advice from one newbie to another, you might want to whittle down the amount companies and ETFs you are invested in. Diversification is good but over diversification not so much. Right now I am only invested in 3 things but I will cap myself at 6-8 different stocks.

Just my 2c. You have been doing this a little longer than me so feel free to tell me to sod off  ::)

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Re: Long Term Portfolios.
« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2015, 08:03:49 am »
My portfolio. You can't be successful in all.
One year returns with no divies reinvested and I have not been in them for a full year.

ADI. +73%
PGR.+32%
CIL. +15%
MTA. -19% My oldest stock but only -5% since bought.
DIVTRX. +18%
I'll take 4 out of 5 any day. What is your % breakdown holding wise, and are you including divvies?

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Re: Long Term Portfolios.
« Reply #81 on: October 26, 2015, 08:19:34 am »
JDP,

WHat did yoU bUy APN / NPN / SOL at?
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« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2015, 10:00:05 am »
There have been many debates around diversification of a portfolio - some advocate limiting to 3 or 4 counters, whilst others have advocated a wide holding of counters.
The essence is what is your strategic imperative in your portfolio do you 1) just want to beat inflation 2) derive dividend streams 3) pursue growth 4) just keep your funds safe 4) create a nest egg for when you reach a certain age.
Your objectives around that portfolio need to be crisp and achievable and must have an end goal - mine is very simple - if I die ahead of my wife my portfolio will more than adequately replace the loss in pension she would suffer upon my death - even if she liquidated the entire portfolio and invested in a simple fixed deposit
My present portfolio has 22 counters in it and is spread across different sectors of the economy, and what it does for me may not necessarily work for others. Within the portfolio I have a DBX tracker fund (EU - not performing as expected) and a Satrix fund (Indi which is doing well). 66% of my portfolio is spread across foodstuff manufacturing, supermarkets, food and clothing, and a diversified conglomerate - I have 4% in resources and 3% in fund managers and about 4% in rats and mice and speculative shares, and 5% in Vodacom (this investment is set aside though for my wife so that she can replace her aged car when she needs to)
So my portfolio is structured to ensure that within one of the sector or even maybe in more than one sector I get growth whilst the others lag, due to constraints in the economy
So as you will note I am an advocate of diversification, but, will admit that over diversification can result in the difficulty of managing too many balls at once - what is over diversification well that's a personal issue, but presently I can manage my 22 counters comfortably - but that's because I can give my portfolio adequate time per day
Not everything that counts, can be counted, and, not everything that can be counted counts - Albert Einstein

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Re: Long Term Portfolios.
« Reply #83 on: October 26, 2015, 10:02:06 am »
@jaDEB

APN : 39297   avg price, down 21.82% (my worst performing share)
NPN : 135012 avg price, up 50.56%
SOL : 47245   avg price, down 8.61%

just a fyi,

CPI : 28248 avg price, up 106.25%  (my best performing share)
« Last Edit: October 26, 2015, 10:06:19 am by JDP »

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« Reply #84 on: October 26, 2015, 11:04:25 am »
@Patrick. I initially started off after my restructuring my portfolio some months back with:
50% in DIVTRX. This alone is diversified enough.
The rest is equal in proportion in ADI, CIL, MTA and PGR. This is only for alpha until I get too old to think. Then I would go 50/50 into STXIND and DIVTRX to make things easy for the wife.

And no, it does not include divies.

 
I started here with nothing and still have most of it left.