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General Category => Shares => Topic started by: jaDEB on June 09, 2015, 12:41:08 pm
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http://www.moneyweb.co.za/in-depth/itrade-trading-competition/win-r100-000-with-moneyweb-and-sanlam-itrade/
I will be taking part, any1 going to join me? R100,000 up for grabs.
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I've registered today but have to wait 24 hours for activation
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No, u can log in, do not add the @Itrade as per instructions. Just log on with Name and password created
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Snap! Thank you for info jaDEB, and now to find an appropriate new pseudonym.
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Well I've tried about 5 times today to log in and it keeps telling me that my user name or password are incorrect - had this same cr%^ last time it ran, and then just withdrew from the competition
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I have been on Itrade for basically 14 months now, R200 a year and I get alot of tools and share data, analysis reports etc. seems like a bargain to me. :TU:
Also entered the comp, under a new nick. ;)
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The challenge will commence Friday June 12 and end on Friday August 14 2015.
Each entrant will receive R1 million virtual money to trade with on the JSE using the iTrade live Virtual Trade Simulator (VTS).
The challenge is free and open to South Africans and Namibians over the age of 18 years on 1 June 2015.
No professional investors and traders will be allowed. Refer to the Terms and Conditions.
One registration per person only. Valid ID and e-mail address required.
Trade in any of the Top 100 shares on the JSE as well as ETFs. No penny stocks included. Refer to the Terms and Conditions for the trading rules.
Make use of the iTrade’s comprehensive share data, charting, research, tools and learning centre, click here: Products & Services.
To alleviate congestion when the challenge commences, no new registrations will be allowed only during the first two days of the challenge.
The VTS platform will be accessible from June 1 2015. For an added advantage, register early and you can practice before the challenge starts.
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Thanks for registering for the R1m Challenge. We have decided to delay the start date by two days to Friday 12 June
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/waits for activation
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OK, lets start.
u go to virtual trading:-
I bought
R500 000 NPN
R400 000 APN
I think I am winning this :LHST:
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50K of each ;D
Aspen
Brait SE
Coronation Fund Mngr
Capitec Bank Hldgs L
Db x-trackers Col in
Discovery Ltd
EOH HOLDINGS LTD
FIRSTRAND LTD
Hyprop Inv Ltd
MR PRICE GROUP LTD
MTN GROUP LTD
NASPERS LTD -N-
OLD MUTUAL PLC
OMNIA HOLDINGS LTD
PSG Group Ltd
Rand Merchant Ins Hl
Steinhoff Int Hldgs
Sasol Limited
THE SPAR GROUP LTD
Woolworths Holdings
Aiming for middle of the pack :LHST:
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All longs?
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yup
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Positive, aren't we MrD? ;)
Is there a list of all available shares or do you have search one by one?
Damn, should have practised before.
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I tried to register today, but they're closed for the day it seems. I'm going to try jaDEB one share at a time trading. I figure it'll either do really well, or I'll lose the shirt off my back.
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Positive, aren't we MrD? ;)
Is there a list of all available shares or do you have search one by one?
Damn, should have practised before.
It's top 100 by market cap and most ETF's - no list that I can see. Also no leader board...maybe they need to outsource it to Patrick® PTY Ltd ?
;)
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Also no leader board...maybe they need to outsource it to Patrick® PTY Ltd ?
;)
Was thinking the same thing.
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Also no leader board...maybe they need to outsource it to Patrick® PTY Ltd ?
;)
Was thinking the same thing.
Haha, thanks for the compliment you two.
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I tried to register today, but they're closed for the day it seems. I'm going to try jaDEB one share at a time trading. I figure it'll either do really well, or I'll lose the shirt off my back.
:TU:
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NPN - R947,585.
Cash - R60,729.90
:whistle:
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So this morning I sold NPN, then bought KIO..... frikkin idiot.
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Well that's just peachy, I am in R89 991 profit and they are restarting the competition Monday 22 June. :wtf:
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Well that's just peachy, I am in R89 991 profit and they are restarting the competition Monday 22 June. :wtf:
Doesn't say much for their robust checking of their system at all, hopefully this glitch doesn't happen in their real life system.
Without being too critical this competition has been run over a few years - surely they could have sorted these glitches out in their beta testing - must be a bit of a jolt to their reputation
So we start all over again with the market having increased quite a bit this last week and a shortened period to end date of competition - hardly a competition for an investor but more so for a trader
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Were you using the high auction prices 8)
They should have just kept the prices pending the next day's trading...
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LOL, I see where this is going. will use it to follow my shares in real portfolio, have live prices for free.....
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Oh, the wretched!
I was on the straight and narrow and had a sell order that was ‘good till day end’ but it triggered at 12:00 auction (which I wasn't aware of by the way, O:-) only knew about morning/afternoon auctions).
So I was thinking ‘glitch’. Logged out, logged back in, profit was still there.
Happy days – short lived.
I contacted them, seems they didn’t know about the midday auction glitch, should have just shut it. >:D
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So my question is this:
Who is allowed to trade in auctions, is it fund managers and institutions?
Next questions:
If yes, then how is it possible for them to not make extraordinary amounts of profit year after year?
Why are they so mediocre then at best with this obvious benefit?
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Ah well, only up 4K with my spread. Will be a bit more focused on Monday.
Go ahead jeeves, restart the system.
;D
On the share net comp I am in the top 20 - makes a change!
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So this morning I sold NPN, then bought KIO..... frikkin idiot.
Cool, I get a do over :whistle:
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I think I is awesome. :wall:
You are currently ranked 4214th of 6448 users
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I think I is awesome. :wall:
You are currently ranked 4214th of 6448 users
JaDEB this is brilliant positioning and you really shouldn't be disappointed
On a percentage basis you are doing better in I Trade than on this challenge
Share Forum position 255 of 303 - 84%
I Trade position 4214 of 6448 - 65%
Yow stats are wonderful :'( :'(
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Lol, that's one way of looking at it.
I'm clueless, can't log in, can't trade and can't even find the leaderboard. Contacted them, hopefully they will sort quickly, life and opportunity is passing me by. ???
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MP,
go to
https://www.sanlamitrade.co.za/ Top right - Username and password. will take u to
https://www.sanlamitrade.co.za/Markets/MarketOverview.aspx
Then click on Portfolio, then virtual trading. Will ask for Name and password again.
Then it opens new page, do not close previous page, as this will log you out.
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Where is the leader board?
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The reality is that the I Trade challenge is really for traders and not investors - the period that the competition runs for is far too short. I have entered the competition and once I have bought all my shares, I intend to just sit with them to competition end, not into buying and selling on a consistent basis
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Where is the leader board?
https://www.sanlamitrade.co.za/Trade/VirtualBuySell.aspx?parent=vb
The leaderboard is being updated.
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Thank you jaDEB.
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Thanks jaDEB will check it out once its updated. :TU:
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The leaderboard is being updated.
I must ask, is Eskom running this competition?
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Is anyone tempted to switch to iTrade. I have found it quite interesting looking around at what you get. I am with ABSA and EE - must say the iTrade gives you a lot of interesting info. But it's certainly not very nice to look at -it's really all over the place. But, as said great info for a trader - ABSA seems easier to use and perfect for a long term portfolio.
How does it stack up to Std bank/ PSG's offerings?
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This is the first time I have used their system and must say that I find the completion of screens very unfamiliar and as MP says all over the place. The process of buying shares seems somewhat antiquated and it doesn't show depth of bids and offers, also did not see transaction history.
I don't want to be unkind to Sanlam but being with my brokers I wonder if they ever asked their clients what they would like to see on the screens. However their screens may well be formatted in the way they are because they may be more skewed to assist traders rather than investors, so the layout of their screens does not encourage me to move from my present brokers
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I've also only used absa and EE. For me EE is on the money for their target market, novice investors.
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I have been using my IView account, for over a year. I pay R200 a year and I use it for research etc.
They also mail me stock evaluations from themselves and Merchantec.
But for actual trading I use ABSA. I think paying R200 a year is a bargain. :TU:
PS. IView is the virtual trading account, and I have renewed mine in march, so yes it is renewable.
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Looks like @iress_africa is still wrestling with cash balances that are wrong. Will let #iTradeR1m know when the Leaderboard is up. Apology again.
I hope they are not using the Comp to get new clients .... :LHST:
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Can I sell shares that I don't own?
I believe I read somewhere u not allowed to short. Just check.
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You are currently ranked 6018th of 6232 users :LHST: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:
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You are currently ranked 200th of 6232 users. Eish some people are moving, and in just one week.
Position Username Total Value
1 nbeepat R 1 122 708
2 R2D2 R 1 118 852
3 bellas R 1 116 353
4 kurtosis R 1 112 473
5 maretha R 1 093 739
6 Sbudaitrade R 1 089 381
7 ElaineLombard R 1 088 949
8 EwoudLotz R 1 085 251
9 kkutsawa R 1 079 708
10 fosterwolf R 1 079 275
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You are currently ranked 5946th of 6232 users. :)
sharenet I am 22 after hitting 13th yesterday
Consistent I am not!
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Where on their site do you access the leaderboard
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After initial login
Left most Menu
>> Trading & Portfolio
>> Log into Trading
On this page you will find the login for the Virtual Trading displaying your username and a password input box.
Directly underneath this is a table with the current leader board and your rank.
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You are currently ranked 572nd of 6232 users.
Top 10 in Sharenets comp :TU:
Not so hot in the investor challenge - but have eased out of a potential last place..
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100% liquid. Am I winning yet :p
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You are currently ranked 374th of 6232 users
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OMW! I'm on holiday and just saw I'm in the bottom 20 :LHST: IC also screwed the pooch, time for another cocktail. ;D
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Portfolio Value R1,046,837
Total Portfolio 969,385.33 :wall:
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:TU:
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You are currently ranked 246th of 6948 users
5th in sharenet 8)
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You are currently ranked 39th of 6948 users
Sheesh well done :TU:
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You are currently ranked 6769th of 6948 users. :laugh:
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You are currently ranked 6769th of 6948 users. :laugh:
Buy low sell high?
>:D
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Nope, buy high sell low, get with the program..... :mad:
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We apologize, the leaderboard is being updated :whistle:
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As per my buy high / sell low philosophy : - Sold NPN bought ACL
ArcelorMittal SA Lim 27 2.3256 1161 1188 1188 1198 0 73,000
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We apologize, the leaderboard is being updated.
Man I am glad they do not do GTA V server.
my ACL down 6%, so I should be last probably.
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You are currently ranked 101st of 7107 users. ;D
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Very impressive you two! Care to share the strategy or will we have to wait till the competition is over?
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Very impressive you two! Care to share the strategy or will we have to wait till the competition is over?
:LHST:
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I is kreeping use from behinds >:D
You are currently ranked 413rd of 7107 users
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Thats quite a jump! No ass then?
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Thats quite a jump! No ass then?
Yes, thanks, but I think it is more do to that their software is cr4p, I do not have a$$, but I have ACL :whistle:.
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You are currently ranked 199th of 7107 users.
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You are currently ranked 99th of 7107 users
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must say it is pitiful ...
The leaderboard is being updated.
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Not too shabby you guys, well done. :TU:
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You are currently ranked 99th of 7107 users
Are you trading on a regular basis or are you merely buying and holding?
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Sold ACL, now have 550 NPN :TU:
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You are currently ranked 99th of 7107 users
Are you trading on a regular basis or are you merely buying and holding?
Don't know enough to trade, but spreading it around in my usual diversified portfolio would get me nowhere. So bought two of the smaller shares available - but ones I am interested in, but will probably never hold in my portfolios. Supergroup and KAP. And both might deliver TU's.
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u have to be kidding me .. :frustrated:
The leaderboard is being updated.
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And in dissimilar news, the one on the challenge is still working :)
As a bonus, if you click on the profit amount it'll now show you how the profit was made (along with a fix in case the number was wrong somehow).
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And in dissimilar news, the one on the challenge is still working :)
As a bonus, if you click on the profit amount it'll now show you how the profit was made (along with a fix in case the number was wrong somehow).
Well now you just showing off....
nice one :TU:
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Hehe, you know that they say: 'if you got it, flaunt it.' - well done.
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Sold NPN, I know have 8000 KIO - Value R 1,041,385.70 :whistle:
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The leaderboard is being updated.
Wow, I cannot believe that guys cannot extract the data and display it on a leaderboard. Not a good advertisement for Sanlam.
Should add I am not doing very well in the sharenet comp this month - let's just say I am in the bottom quarter... :whistle:
Happy with my progress in IC - from being in the bottom 20 (thx CML) am now hiding in the middle of the pack with my sensible (boring) portfolio.
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You are currently ranked 349th of 7336 users - falling, falling :(
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You are currently ranked 146th of 7336 users
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You are currently ranked 336th of 7336 users
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You are currently ranked 399th of 7336 users
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ACL up 10%
Total Portfolio 1,122,555.30 :-*
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shares both up to day - but hasn't actually transferred into making money today. :-*
Thanks Sanlam - will not complain about ABSA stockbroking ever again - eish.
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You are currently ranked 19th of 7336 users :TU:
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You are currently ranked 19th of 7336 users :TU:
I think jaDEB's has been hacked :D
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Well done jadeb!!
Giving qriffin a run for his money
I am watching from a distance - well, within spitting distance anyway :D
You are currently ranked 189th of 7336 users.
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Thanks, not to sure if Patrick has a point , ::). But hey, lets see what happens.
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u gota be kiddin ...
The leaderboard displays values as on end of day Tuesday 14 July.
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kk,
I sold ACL, and bought APN. Total Portfolio 1,117,648.11
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:)
5 Min of fame. :-*
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I told my wife I knew you.
She didn't believe me
:(
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I told my wife I knew you.
She didn't believe me
:(
Thanks I needed that, made me smile ... :TU:
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You are currently ranked 40th of 7451 users. ;D
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SOld APN, jumped into ACL again, now APN is up :wall:. But I will not be able to catch up without taking risks.
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You are currently ranked 69th of 7486 users.
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You are currently ranked 69th of 7486 users.
Get your mind out of the gutter, dammit ...... :frustrated:
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You are currently ranked 36th of 7495 users.
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I just sold out of my holding of DBXEU but when I come to buy other shares it won't allow me to purchase the shares - does this "competition" system have a 24 hour hold on funds prior to letting you buy other shares?
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No, I have sold then bought. U only allowed the Top 40, Midcap and Exchange Traded Funds only.
ACL - :TU:
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No, I have sold then bought. U only allowed the Top 40, Midcap and Exchange Traded Funds only.
ACL - :TU:
Well I sold the DBXEU but it did not allow me to buy TBS - I had +R 96,000 cash to buy and tried to buy 300 at R295.95 which is some R 89,000
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I tried to buy OCE, but it stated in RED, that it is not part of Top 40, Midcap. Also u have to change pricing instruction, ie. buy price from limit to Market. Then it takes the best price it can buy at.
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Order was placed - eventually so don't know what the narrative that I had exceeded my trading account limit was all about
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Maybe Shares + Trading cost was higher that cash. I leave about R50K in account.
Total Portfolio 1,167,405.57
Leader is at R 1 277 052
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Maybe Shares + Trading cost was higher that cash. I leave about R50K in account.
Total Portfolio 1,167,405.57
Leader is at R 1 277 052
When buying the shares I left a buffer of about R 6,000 - so is a bit perplexing, but its a competition - nice going on your portfolio growth
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You are currently ranked 15th of 7558 users :-*
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You are currently ranked 21st of 7587 users. :wall: :wall:
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I see they've got one less player. I wonder if someone was disqualified?
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You are currently ranked 51st of 7587 users.
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Sold ACL, bought AGL, but the trading costs is hectic, down to 1,103,022.22, the leader is at R 1 322 472.
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You are currently ranked 83rd of 7627 users :frustrated: :wall: :'( :'( :'(
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You are currently ranked 32nd of 7627 users.
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You are currently ranked 116th of 7657 users
Made some mistakes, but hey u learn ... currently have HAR. but I bought to late
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OK, lost the plot, thus I going Mr Divvie way for the last 2 weeks. closing 14 August I believe.
Bought
50% ACL
25% SGL
25% NPN
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You are currently ranked 418th of 7676 users. :LHST:
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You are currently ranked 60th of 7676 users.
BTW Jadeb - well done on your recovery in the IC - thought I was doing well, then spotted you way up on the leaderboard.
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Thanks Mr D,
Today Profit/Loss (today) 35,292.78 :) :-* :-* :-* :-*
Imagine doing that in real life, one day, one day ..... :whistle:
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You are currently ranked 6250th of 7755 users. :LHST: :LHST:
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Thanks Mr D,
Today Profit/Loss (today) 35,292.78 :) :-* :-* :-* :-*
Imagine doing that in real life, one day, one day ..... :whistle:
Well so far today my personal portfolio is showing R 36,580 profit but then I have taken a few knocks of + R 100,000 on bad days - so definitely swings and roundabouts - or as the hacks say volatility
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JaDeb - eish, what happened??
You are currently ranked 95th of 7755 users. - easing down the leader board :(
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ok shot up to 1,036,071.49 due to ACL up 11% :TU:
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You are currently ranked 96th of 7788 users.
clinging on to my top 100 berth
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You are currently ranked 455th of 7822 users.
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Please remember u must be in cash, thus selling mine now.
My value is , pathetic, R 1,041,876.34