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yozzi

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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 10:00:31 am »
Quote from: Orca on July 23, 2013, 06:38:47 pm
Quote from: franz on July 23, 2013, 02:05:58 pm
I am in stxind now over 18 months and has returned 60.7%. The divi is not great, about 1% i think and paid every 3 months.

Well chosen franz.  :TU: Now you beating most if not all UT's all by yourself. No management fees as well. Only minimal admin fees if done on the JSE via a broker. If only I had known this 20 years ago. Ummm...... Actually it would not have worked back then. Only hit me now as I was typing.
Twenty years ago you would have had to buy the Sunday Times to get the price. Then schedule a time and day to see your bank manager. A week later you in his office and discuss the price you saw a week earlier. He gets on his phone and winds the handle 3 times to get a telephone operator who connects him to some broker in a smoked filled sleazy office somewhere. He in turn goes through the same procedure to connect to his aid at the JSE who immediately sends a telegram to the company saying that a customer wants to buy shares of a certain amount. Three days later he gets back to the bank manager with a price. He phones you and you agree even though the price has change significantly. Now you have to wait a week for the share certificate sent by post.
Now try and sell it. Eish.
Why am I rambling?   

This is what happened to me last week!!!! :D
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 10:51:33 am »
Quote from: Orca on July 24, 2013, 09:46:34 am
I suppose you right gcr. I was just imagining how it worked long ago. Perhaps 40 years ago?
Nope from a bank point of view we used brokers directly and placed the funds in an escrow account with the broker - in my Durban days it was Richard Castle and Ferguson Bros.
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2013, 02:36:54 pm »
Hi guys. Im quite new to this. How would SatrixINDI work as an education investment, compared to the edufocus and other education investments like Old Mutual. From what I can see, the INDI is quite reliable with 3 times the growth
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2013, 03:59:15 pm »
Quote from: manjoo777 on August 01, 2013, 02:36:54 pm
Hi guys. Im quite new to this. How would SatrixINDI work as an education investment, compared to the edufocus and other education investments like Old Mutual. From what I can see, the INDI is quite reliable with 3 times the growth
Not sure what you mean but perhaps edufocus and Old Mutual are ultra conservative as in pension fund investing.
FSB does not allow 100% equities in pension funds. The Indi is 100% equities. FSB has recently alowed them to invest more equities for the extra growth.
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2013, 05:25:28 pm »
Perhaps I should give you more clarity. A conservative portfolio would have a portion of cash, money market funds and other low performing safe instruments included. This is to protect the investors from market crashes.
Had you been in a conservative portfolio during a market crash like the 2008/9 crash, you would not have lost as much as the Indi that is 100% equities. The biggest 1 day crash was -22%.
Now we, as active investors and watch the markets can do 100% equities for much larger gains as we can sell when the market crashes. Most UT's and pension funds ride out the crashes.

   
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2013, 10:06:14 am »
For the STXINDI investors. She has broken through the resistance.
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2013, 10:09:45 am »
Resistance is futile 8)
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2013, 10:45:50 am »
Yes. Sentiment prevails as always but she broke through on high volumes. :TU:
This is a perfect example of resistance and breakthrough. Traders that bought at the first peak got disillusioned with the long dip and waited it out. They sold at even. The second peak at the resistance line. Once these sellers were gone, she carried on up through the resistance line.
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2014, 12:15:08 pm »
I was looking for performance similar to STXIND (seems impossible), how is the 36ONE MET equity.....
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2014, 12:22:21 pm »
Quote from: manjoo777 on May 28, 2014, 12:15:08 pm
I was looking for performance similar to STXIND (seems impossible), how is the 36ONE MET equity.....

Maybe an odd question, but if you want the performance of the STXIND, why not just buy the STXIND?
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2014, 02:00:35 pm »
Is it worth while investing in the SATRIX INDI now ?

if not, what price would be a good buy ?

should i invest directly with satrix on a monthly basis or do it myself directly ?
« Last Edit: May 28, 2014, 02:04:21 pm by Junz »
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2014, 10:18:24 pm »
You going to be trading it or investing for the long term? Lump sum once off or monthly for the long term? Really doubt you can trade it too much with it not being as volatile as normal shares. If you got a 3-5 year or longer horizon start now why wait. Who can time the market accurately anyway.
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2014, 07:49:53 am »
I think for the most part i would want to keep it for the long term ( 3 years + )

a once off payment now and then monthly or when ever I have cash
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2014, 08:20:58 am »
I have an article somewhere that I printed off the web that states doing the monthly thing is better than doing a once off payment. It was strange to read this as I would have thought going all in with a bang would give better returns.
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Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2014, 08:28:31 am »
Probably due to the price fluctuation. Rand cost averaging. Please post it if you find it.

Back to the subject. Perhaps you can do some technical analysis for Junz on this one for a buy trigger?

I would just buy now in lump sum and continue investing monthly over and above if it's long term till I hit said growth number being 25x annual expenses  8)
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