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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2013, 10:07:09 am »
Why is it turning now? Currently @ 1462

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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2013, 11:11:28 am »
Maybe it's just taking a breather, has had a hard run. from 1350 to 1460....needs to chill here some, then something needs to happen to give it legs....hopefully...
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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2013, 10:03:25 am »
Check out gold spike .. whoo hooooooo
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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2013, 05:40:36 pm »
SGL at R8.50, it just does not make sense.
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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2013, 07:43:38 am »
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Prices will close the year at $1,550 an ounce, 7.5 percent less than at the end of 2012 and the biggest drop since 1997, according to the median of 38 estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-01/gold-bull-run-seen-over-as-bear-drop-frays-faithful-commodities.html

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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2013, 03:36:13 pm »
SGL results out tomorrow. Shares traded 6m, kinda high volume.

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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2013, 09:01:26 am »
Sibanye Gold Limited

March 2013 quarter salient features

   A 121% quarter-on-quarter increase in operating profit to R1,518 million (US$171 million).
   Free cash generation of R590 million (US$66 million) during the quarter.
   A 36 per cent quarter-on-quarter gold production increase to 9,312 kilograms (299,400 ounces).
   A 22 per cent quarter-on-quarter reduction in notional cash expenditure ("NCE") to R381,347 per kilogram
    (US$1,334 per ounce).
   Net debt of R2.8 billion (US$304 million) as at 30 April 2013.
   A 327% increase in available cash from 31 December 2012 to R1.2 billion (US$130 million)on 30 April 2013.
   Excellent safety performance with the group now in line with United States underground fatality rates.
   Good progress made with implementation of the group business process re-engineering ("BPR") initiatives
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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2013, 07:33:11 am »
This is some1 from JPMorgan, yes the same JP Morgan that indicated few ago gold at 1350 / 1100, which started the fall in gold and are causing people to lose their jobs in gold sector.... go figure.

J.P.Morgan Caznove’s Allan Cooke, Steve Shepherd and Abhishek Tiwari believe gold will average about $1,600 an ounce this year but should finish strong and trade near $1,700 by the end of year, where it will stay through 2014. Of course, that’s down from their previous forecast of $1,800 and ounce. In an environment where the SPDR Gold Shares (GLD) has dropped 13% during the past three months, that’s practically shouting from the rooftops.

“The gold price corrected sharply in April and is seen supported by retail and central bank demand, ongoing monetary stimulus in the US, Japan and Europe and ultra low interest rates in the developed world,” the three analysts write.

A gold recovery would surely boost gold miners, who have been hammered by worries that the price of gold would fall below their costs. The Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF (GDX), for instance, has dropped 38% this year.

But South African miners have their own issue, Cooke, Shepherd and Tiwari say:

    We remain concerned SA gold share ratings may languish despite our undemanding valuations since catalysts appear negative to us in the near term. The local labour climate remains troubled with wage negotiations set to begin in June. They will be difficult given the unfortunate precedents set last year in the platinum industry and ongoing, bitter union rivalry. The pullback in the gold price hasn’t helped ratings and gold shares have, unsurprisingly, sold off sharply. This is an opportunity to buy selectively, in our view.

Their favorites include Gold Fields (GFI), which is the least exposed to South Africa, , and Sibanye Gold (SBGL), which has nothing but South Africa exposure yet has been beaten down enough to warrant an upgrade to Outperform from Neutral.

They also like Randgold Resources (GOLD) and Istanbul-listed Koza Gold. “These stocks are defensive by dint of their relatively high free cash flow margins and strong growth prospects, in our view,” Cooke, Shepherd and Tiwari say. “We expect our gold share picks to outperform gold/ETF (+15%) on a 12m view.”

Gold Fields has gained 1.2% to $6.81 today, after dropping 37% through May 7, while Randgold has risen 1.9% to $79.62 today, after dropping 21%. Sibanye, which was spun out of Gold Fields earlier this year, has surged 7.9% to $3.81 today, after plunging 36% during the past month.
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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2013, 08:49:41 am »
But South African miners have their own issue, Cooke, Shepherd and Tiwari say:

    We remain concerned SA gold share ratings may languish despite our undemanding valuations since catalysts appear negative to us in the near term. The local labour climate remains troubled with wage negotiations set to begin in June. They will be difficult given the unfortunate precedents set last year in the platinum industry and ongoing, bitter union rivalry. The pullback in the gold price hasn’t helped ratings and gold shares have, unsurprisingly, sold off sharply. This is an opportunity to buy selectively, in our view.

That's the trouble I have with SA gold miners. I think labour trouble is only going to increase. A move to less labour intensive, more mechanised mining may be the answer, but is that option feasible in terms of technology, government pressure etc?

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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2013, 02:19:53 pm »
JaDEB, how you feeling about SGL right now ?   ;)


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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #55 on: May 13, 2013, 09:05:17 am »
I feel OK about SGL, it is now 14% of my portfolio. They predict a 98c earnings and a good dividend policy. Thus I hope to shoot the lights with this 1, once that happens.
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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2013, 08:49:12 am »
From MoneyWeb

JOHANNESBURG - The payments made by South Africa’s major miners towards the salaries of National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) officials were the subject of a lengthy discussion at the annual general meeting (AGM) of AngloGold Ashanti (JSE:ANG) on Monday, after a shareholder called for an immediate end to the practice.

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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2013, 08:54:26 am »
Ag tog...........1412.........  :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2013, 08:24:30 pm »
Special: Breaking News for JaDEB  :D

Gold Seen Crushed as Credit Suisse Forecasts $1,100 in Year

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“May’s Fund Manager Survey demonstrates a clear exit from China and assets connected to China such as commodities and emerging market equities," said Michael Hartnett‚ chief investment strategist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch Global Research.

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Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2013, 09:28:00 am »
Thanks  Mr Bond,

JP Morgan said 1200, then 2 weeks later some1 from JP Morgan said 1800/1600. Now these chops...but cool, did u see the rand ... Now R9.42 to the dollar.

Mr Bond, can u not go and cause some destruction some where. I push the gold price up?
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