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General Category => Shares => Topic started by: yozzi on January 17, 2014, 08:29:15 am
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We were slowly hijacking the STX INDI thread so hence starting a DBX one! Has anyone else invested in these Tracker ETF's with good results?
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I used to hold DBXJP for many years - one of the first "share" investments I made way back when. Sold them in 2012 as growth had really stagnated and bought MTN instead. No regrets either way.
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Great idea, I'm looking quite keenly at dbx eu for this months purchases...
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I bought EU, US, UK and WD some time ago as a Rand hedge. Did well out of them but the TER is a little rich for my blood so I'll probably dump them sometime soon.
I see them as reasonable medium term bets but a bit expensive to hold in the long term.
I recently added to my EU purchases and will probably hold those for 3 years...
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The spread on the DBXEURO50 is also rather large. The automated bid is at 4619, and offer at 4667 for a 1% spread. By comparison, the indi is as follows: bid 5429 offer 5440 spread of 0.2%...
Makes the dbxeu look very pricy...
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This brings me back to my question on another thread - if you were to invest a large amount for a 3-5 yr period what would you choose? This is my predicament at the moment as I've already invested quite a bit in the Indi and in various shares and I'm looking at diversifying a bit by buying another fairly 'safe' ETF.
I'm nowhere near as clued up as you guys are so the ETF's seem to be a good way for me to invest without having to worry about when I should buy or sell all the time! The other alternative would be, of course, to go with the fund managers like Coronation, A Gray, etc and lock the funds up with them for the duration.
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I'm also just starting out Yozzi. I'm keenly watching the STXINDI. If you want more local exposure you could look at the STXRESI and STX FINI. Their charts don't look as great and as stable as the STXINDI does. But if you going to buy all 3 then you might as well just buy the STX40.
For myself I'm considering STXINDI only for definite, around 75% of the portfolio and the other 25% with off shore exposure in the DBX WORLD or DBX US.
STXINDI returned 35.59% on a lump sum investment with DIVI's reinvested. That's a decent return, and many traders I guess battle to make that in a year based on what I've read.
Also go check out www.justonelap.co.za, there's a lot of learning material and videos on there. Perhaps it will help you.
Why not just go all into the STXIND for now while you're learning?
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Just watch the Indi on the Challenge. It will soon be the top index once again as always. Equities will always beat the market over time. This is why I have always recommended the Indi to new investors while they learn how to pick winning stocks.
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@Yozzi, here's a nice video/presentation on JustOneLap on where Simon Brown foresees the 2014 market http://www.justonelap.com/webinarDetail.asp?intWebinarID=186 (http://www.justonelap.com/webinarDetail.asp?intWebinarID=186)
Register and have a watch. He talks of the various DBX ETF's and in particular the US MSCI which he's watching closely, good talk in my opinion.
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Equities will always beat the market over time...
Posting after 7pm again are we? :)
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@Yozzi, here's a nice video/presentation on JustOneLap on where Simon Brown foresees the 2014 market http://www.justonelap.com/webinarDetail.asp?intWebinarID=186 (http://www.justonelap.com/webinarDetail.asp?intWebinarID=186)
Register and have a watch. He talks of the various DBX ETF's and in particular the US MSCI which he's watching closely, good talk in my opinion.
Many Thanks Nios, that's a good website and some good info on there. My funds are offshore so will look at all the options and decide soon where to invest and if I could achieve the 35% with the Indi I'd be more than happy!
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Do you think the DBX EU is a buy at present as I see it has pulled back a fair bit? I'm overseas at present so can't follow the market too often so would welcome your comments