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no was definately cml on jse not one of their unit trusts,

"Sometimes I wonder why all of us bother with this.  buy CML and let the pros do their thing?  just a thought"

or I assumed incorrectly from the statement

they have a nav of 477.9 and trading at 6210 and a pe of 20.6, so their income ratio is ok

I still need some clarification on this share, so people seem to be of the opinion that if they buy cml, they are buying into a diverse portfolio of shares. But as far as i can see you are only buying shares in a management company that earns a income on funds they manage.

the same as buying shares in a bank, more or less.

So they have no underlying assets only income

"Coronation Fund Managers Ltd. is one of Southern Africa's most successful third-party fund management companies. It is a pure fund management business which offers both individual and institutional investors access to local and global expertise across all asset classes, including specialist Global Emerging Markets, Africa and Private Equity units."

TCS.

Last 10 Trades of the day
Date   PDT   Price   Volume
23/05 17:00   OCP   3   0
23/05 13:13   AT   3   33,333

nut

Last 10 Trades of the day
Date   PDT   Price   Volume
23/05 17:00   OCP   2   0
23/05 09:12   AT   2   8,611

Maybe the entrant wants to prove a point. that 1c shares can do something, but is really not in the spirit of the game, so I ignore those positions when looking at the leaders

Nutrition I think

most markets are at a high , especially usa and headed for a major dip. and those usa guys are major cruel, if they dunk, they do it with effort, they slam dunk.

They have already dumped gold, because they can. The market works in 2 ways , work the market up and make profits, when it gets to the top, start short selling and make even more. Remember they are traders and have to make money.

so if there is no reason or buyers to push it higher they start short selling and the only news you then get is bad news , so the market tumbles and they make more money again.

The only way you will make money is through patience and playing with them. So currently sell and wait. Unless you can identify a particular share or sector that is oversold and has recovery prospects and the only way that happens is if the big investors fail in their plan they will target a different sector to exploit

I think liquidity is a greater problem than penny stocks (although they are often the same stock)


edit: Alternatively, we could value a portfolio using the price of the highest buyer - that would knock some portfolios down to size - and in reality, that is what a portfolios value truly is at any moment

Agree this after all an investor game , not speculator game

I don,t think a vote is needed about keeping a portfolio private, just add up the private vs non private portfolios and the majority wins.

This is after all just a game, it is not that there is money to be won. It is about broadening your horizons and helping each other gain more insight into investing.

So how is a private portfolio going to help