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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: July 09, 2013, 06:14:36 pm »
was not meant to be other  just thought  elicit some serious reaction, so the thread could get some life.

But was not to be , how about we have a chat here and also get to know each other ;)

I usually have my share chat on the wd forum as I have got to sort of know a few guys there. Never anything serious though

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: July 08, 2013, 09:15:17 pm »
Orca you are rude and obnoxious, that is why I spend so little time here ;D

But then  i attribute that statement to the fact that my portfolio is doing shit and yours not. :-*

But the game just shows how volatile things are, a once off buyer of tkg being on top, A share being punted to dip below R10 standing at almost R18. My sgl worth about R10 - R 14, and on R 7.

There are some shiners and some far off good highs. This to me is a traders market and not investors market, apart from cml. But as in my eternal crusifiction of CML , I see them below R55 by year end.

They are in effect a little local company trading way above where they should be, because of sentiment and profits earned from stimulated marker conditions.

Would be good that as this is an ongoing game , that  starts fresh every year that patrick could keep the first years finals on record to compare with current prices thereafter.




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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: July 05, 2013, 06:27:27 pm »
http://www.sars.gov.za/AllDocs/OpsDocs/Guides/LAPD-IT-G11%20-%20Tax%20Guide%20for%20Share%20Owners.pdf

Not a very conclusive article, But the way myself and my tax guy reads it is that if you trade in reason and don,t get involved with speculative stuff, trading in a reasonable way, i.e. having a reason for selling as in not profit taking but the market turned . Would be capital gains and not income tax. I have traded on and off for a few years now and never had problems with profits taxed as income.

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Shares / Re: Tax.
« on: June 25, 2013, 07:44:14 pm »
We don,t loose 20 or 13 %, that is our part to finance the powers that be  :'(

I am comfortable being a trader and follow the various market segments, If I was an investor, i would put my my money in a fund, either unit trust or maybe satrix ind. and just sit back and relax.

But the share market is my hobby, like riding bike is to some people

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Shares / Re: Tax.
« on: June 24, 2013, 10:37:44 pm »
I have learned my lesson. If you sell, say R1M after a 50% gain and you are in the 40% tax bracket, you will pay an amount of R193 600 tax on your R500k gains after the R16k costs as it will be revenue.
Now as you probably do not have the extra cash on hand, you will withdraw the money from your cash account at your broker to pay SARS. This will leave you with R806 400 in your investment account. A loss of just under 20%.
If you expect the market will drop by more than 20%, then by all means, sell.

I will hold even though I know the VIX is high.

Your sums and my sums don,t add to the same.

If I Sold R1m after a 50 % gain, it means I invested R666 666 + 50 % R333 333 = R1m. On the R333 333 I pay tax of say 40% R133 333 leaves me with a profit of R200 000. after I withdraw to pay the taxes it leaves me with 30% profit  and a sum of R866 666 to invest again after the market has dropped. I do not expect the market to drop by 20% , but certain shares maybe. But what I normally do is buy into a different share that is oversold and has potential. So i sold bil and lon, which I expect to have a bit of a correction and bought some aeg which I expect will recover somewhat.

I also have losses and make bad choices so, profits are sett off with losses, But in my situation the taxes are different, it all goes through a business, so the R133  333 is mine as well ;)

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: June 21, 2013, 05:50:20 pm »
Is a time like this that the rules of the game work against it. If i was an investment manager , I would have sold everything last week. But cannot do that in the game, so massive loss this week.

On my personal jse portfolio, I cashed in last week and now have my profits booked. Will sit on the sideline till things normalise.

But that is how you learn the game ;D

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Shares / Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« on: June 18, 2013, 08:37:48 pm »
looks nice and safe and very diversified, less stressful than owning shares. will put a bit in there

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Shares / Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« on: June 14, 2013, 07:53:36 pm »
any one got link to more info on them

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Shares / Re: Keepers - Long term
« on: June 13, 2013, 05:56:37 pm »
CFR ?

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at 190 on the reduced shares the old price is .038 and you bought at .06.

read comments on this site

http://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.asp?ShareTicker=CRND

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: June 11, 2013, 03:34:22 pm »
That the way I understand it and also the the guys in the uk are talking

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: June 11, 2013, 01:38:18 pm »
read the results of their agm, 49 of each 50 shares have become deferred shares

http://demo.crg-sa.com/wp-content/uploads/CRD%20AGM%20SENS%20RNS%20Announcement%20V4%20070613.pdf

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: June 11, 2013, 01:29:45 pm »
 would rather see 14p than 0.3p any day. I know we have 50 times less shares, but we also have 50 times less shares in the market (for now). It means that if we can really sort out production & keep cash tight this shares has a chance in time to be very good share to be in. The consolidation had to happen as just to many shares in issue. Good luck and IMHO.Today 00:44OpiumRE: Conned13.50No Opinion
I wouldn't. You are not worse off in this particular case, IMO. Makes sense if CRND is to stay in the FTSE.Mon 22:29lawco280Conned13.50No Opinion
Yes we have been , i'm selling first thing in the morning at a 60% loss because this is going all the way down to nothing, consolidation is a way of stealing peoples money, take your money out before its all gone.

See they talking about a share consolidqation in the uk. did it happen here as well

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