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The Investor Challenge / Re: Challenge closing date for 2013
« on: May 09, 2013, 12:30:40 pm »
Support you suggestion, but, as I noted on this forum the last R 100, 000 only now has some 14 working days to grow the value of your portfolio. Suggest we try it and learn what the real ramifications are and then in need compensate in the 2014 challenge

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I would not exclude penny shares - after all this is an investor competition with an end date of December. Let those who wish to buy penny stock do so and lets see how successful they are when competition ends. Also those who wish to purchase shares on the open market to try and move the price for the competition then maybe they must do it. If you are not in front of the curve chances are you may get burnt trying to move the market and also be aware that there may be other people on the market who are also trying to influence the market and may have deep pockets

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tgg78703 - if you were a seller of tcs you would argue that the real value of the company is 3 cents. Last week there were buyers for Alert Steel at something like 14 cents and sellers in the 60 and 70 cent range - what was/is the real value of Alert. Both are speculative shares so one will often get wide bids/offers prices and that the fund of have some spec shares in ones portfolio (real portfolio not this competition portfolio) that if your punt does come off you can make significant amounts of money, but you need to limit such spec shares - I limit my spec shares to 3 to 4% of total portfolio

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I don't think the last bid price is realistic either - you only have to look at the daily auction to see large price differences, and bidders/sellers can depress end of day prices and it would require considerable monitoring to determine last bid price just before auction. Also prices at last day of December will be higher than normal due to window dressing by Fund Managers so lets go along for the ride

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I don't think we should be too concerned about aberrations such as these - this competition runs for another 6 1/2 months and I can't see the share maintaining this level through to end December. Also the person who picked these shares has a quandary in future months as they will get 100,000 per month going forward, will they invest in the same counter at the higher price or sit in cash - if they buy in at the higher price they could take a large smack when the price returns to 2 cents. This person is playing in the penny stock realms and as such may well experience the real worth of investing in some of those categories as penny stocks. The important thing is that this is a competition and it is to test your ability to invest over an extended period, penny stocks don't give you that, so we should just sit back and watch how the speculators do manage i this competition. There is no need to change the rules for the competition as they stand at present (though I am still of the opinion that one should be permitted to sell out of one counter either fully or partially once a quarter - called taking profits off the table)   

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: May 02, 2013, 03:46:39 pm »
Well done Patrick - I see the number of competitors has gone through 200 - that's awesum

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Shares / Re: Help the newbies
« on: April 30, 2013, 03:15:01 pm »
One of the cheaper ways of getting into the stock market without take huge risks with CFD or SSF's is through the vehicle of instalment shares. Normally you purchase full quantity of parcel of shares but only commit about 55% of face value cost up front - so in principle you could buy different counters. These are not warrants but instalment shares and they are put into the market by most of the banks. The shares are not traded as the normal share but have less churn. They are put in place for 1 year and you have the option to take them up at the strike price or you sell just before they come to term. One can expect fairly steady growth in their value in a bull market as they move in line with the main share

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Shares / Re: CNN Money
« on: April 30, 2013, 09:36:25 am »
money.cnn.com

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Shares / CNN Money
« on: April 29, 2013, 04:25:28 pm »
Very interesting article on the worlds 5 hottest stock markets. At the right hand side once entering the article is another article on the Worlds 40 best performing stock markets in 2013 - Botswana is ranked 7th and RSA doesn't even feature in top 40 even Kenya is listed

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Shares / Re: Devastating market crash. When ?
« on: April 29, 2013, 03:15:15 pm »
The last time that the ALSI was at this level 38895 was on or about 12/12/2012 (wasn't that the great day of reckoning) and then it progressively moved up to 41 047.72 on 14/03/2013 - so in its own right the ALSI has shown quite a large correction. Also there have been many commentators/analysts who have said we are due a correction. I have always worked on the principle that I will sell only when my gardener starts talking about shares and which shares to buy - then I know we are in to serious issues - he hasn't started talking to me yet so I will stay invested. If the market does pull back then this will sort out the people who are in it for greed and speculation - because if you have a long term portfolio you should have more than a number of opportunities to sell a portion of your longer term portfolio and still make a handsome profit and then buy in once the market starts turning up. 

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Shares / Re: LDT
« on: April 29, 2013, 02:29:42 pm »
Seems like buyers are trying very hard to pull PSG's price down ahead of the LDT date on Friday - trying to top up my holdings but will see if it drops to my order price which is below R64 - here's hoping

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: April 26, 2013, 01:44:34 pm »
Agree with your sentiments - it serves little purpose bringing a trader mindset to an investment scenario

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Shares / Re: CML
« on: April 26, 2013, 01:05:51 pm »
But it seems the market already knew that their results were going to be good as the price movement seems to have been very muted

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: April 26, 2013, 01:04:03 pm »
If you allow for sales then I think it goes against the grain of the competition which is an "investment competition" and the very essence is to remain in a particular counter for the longer term rather than trying to turn this competition into a trading operation. If the tide turns because of a broad pull back chances are that it will affect all investors in the competition across the board. If one looks at the shares chosen by investors some have tried to pick penny shares with a view to making significant gains - but this is only likely to happen over the short term - so its a case of - you pays your money and you reap what you sow. If you do allow sales then maybe you should restrict it to only one sale a month - this could create an admin nightmare for yourself, and similar fees must be imposed as for buying of shares

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Ta - was just a question as there are many more participants than previous Sharechat competitions - so seems that this challenge is more to the liking of far more people
Well done

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