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Off topic / Re: Live chat
« on: May 15, 2015, 06:44:41 pm »
I don't know how many people read through the sens notifications out of the JSE daily - I tend to read extensively.
Ryan Otto of Ellies has taken many zero cost collars and many of them have ended up with what I think is a cost to him as the strike price and the execution price are a mismatch. Not sure how he is paying off these losses but I see many of these zero cost collars were "pursuant to a pledge and securities loan arrangement" Do we have a bright spark on this forum who can explain these zero cost collars and whether this Otto fellow is taking a bath or not. Also see that he holds some 8.57% of the companies shares Elli Salkow (the original owner now chairman) hold 29.27% and Mazi Capital - some obscure investment house hold 17.79% of Ellies
Anybody capable of throwing some light on this operation - I used to hold Ellies but got out when they were just over R 3.50 and now they are languishing at 97 cents
Ryan Otto of Ellies has taken many zero cost collars and many of them have ended up with what I think is a cost to him as the strike price and the execution price are a mismatch. Not sure how he is paying off these losses but I see many of these zero cost collars were "pursuant to a pledge and securities loan arrangement" Do we have a bright spark on this forum who can explain these zero cost collars and whether this Otto fellow is taking a bath or not. Also see that he holds some 8.57% of the companies shares Elli Salkow (the original owner now chairman) hold 29.27% and Mazi Capital - some obscure investment house hold 17.79% of Ellies
Anybody capable of throwing some light on this operation - I used to hold Ellies but got out when they were just over R 3.50 and now they are languishing at 97 cents