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Shares / Re: Steinhoff
« on: August 24, 2017, 06:56:26 pm »
They don't called Weise and his colleagues - the Stellenbosch mafia for nothing
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Of his punts I only hold Santova but it is also a volatile shareGo to Moneyweb's site and have a look at the small cap picks that were punted by Keith McLauchlan at the Money Expo on Saturday. I have known Keith and have interacted with him on purely an investor level and do not follow his picks like a slave and he will admit that he has got some wrong over the years - so read and make your own determinationThanks. I have seen his stocks in his portfolio and some are disasters and some ok but overall I think his overall returns are not that great. I do however also like Santova and 1 or 2 other picks.
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Kaap Agri is a well run business. It's a rare breed in Today's economy.Kaap Agri used to be an over the counter operation years ago in the PSG stable through Zeder, but once they terminated over the counter trading they had to come out of the darkness so to speak - This company forms part of the Stellenbosch mafia grouping - but K-A is under the Mouton umbrella which is the who PSG conglomerate and has strong links to Christo Wiese and Markus Jooste (whose big interest these days is horseracing) and their names all pop up with the Steinhoff groupings
No but obviously you have - your point being?Realistically my house has no worth to my estate until I die nor my car as it is a depreciating asset so it does not constitute any part of what I can net wealth
Are you serious? Have you been reading Robert Kiyosaki books?
MC - I hear you, but, also don't want to labour the point but if you take ones pension present and future value into account then you might as well add future values to your Living Annuities (provided your draw down is less than 5%) and the future market value of your house (s) less any outstanding bond. Maybe I determine wealth differentlyMC - not sure what your argument is 1)whether no provision out of gross is recorded as a contribution towards a pension, or 2) a pension payment ex employer is part of ones overall wealth. If 2 then I don't consider it as part of ones wealth as it is in the same realm as a monthly salary and there would only be a portion which would contribute towards your wealth if you set aside a portion and invested it. Also I am not sure how you would factor in ones salary/pension future value as part of your future wealth - the reserving of a portion would contribute to wealth creation, but, the future value of salary/pension should be excludedEDIT: assuming that the average person is not money savvy and have no pension fund forced on him over his 20 years of working.
Surely your pension fund is part of your net worth calculation.
My point is that money saved in your pension fund is part of your net worth. If you contribute 20% a month to your pension, you are saving 20% essentially. I don't think we should make this stuff too complicated.
A person with R1m in their pension fund and nothing else is better off than a person with nothing at all.