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Off topic / Re: Supermoon 23 June 2013
« on: June 29, 2013, 01:16:56 pm »

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Explanation: A Full Perigee Moon rose as the Sun set last Sunday. At its closest to Earth it was, by just a bit, the year's brightest and largest Full Moon also known as a Super Moon. Seen from Punta Piedras, Argentina and the mouth of the Rio de La Plata, near Buenos Aires, the Super Moon's light created this magnificent circular lunar halo. Still, the size of a lunar halo is determined by the geometry of six sided water ice crystals in planet Earth's high, thin clouds. The crystals deflect the rays of moonlight more strongly through a minimum angle of 22 degrees. So this halo has an inner radius of 22 degrees, just like the halos of the less-than-super moons. Even more common than a Super Moon, beautiful 22 degree halos can be spotted at any time of year.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130628.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

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Shares / Re: Aspen Pharmacare
« on: June 28, 2013, 10:46:23 am »
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(Reuters) - Aspen Pharmacare said on Thursday that it would acquire drugs and a plant from U.S. firm Merck in a $1 billion deal that bolsters its presence in Europe, Latin America and Asia.

Africa's biggest maker of generic drugs said it would buy an active pharmaceutical ingredient (API) business located in the Netherlands and a portfolio of 11 drug brands from Merck.

Aspen said the deal was subject to the approval of various competition authorities and the South African Reserve Bank.

Last week, Aspen said it would acquire the Arixtra and Fraxiparine/Fraxodi brands of thrombosis drugs from GlaxoSMithKline, except in China, Pakistan and India, a deal that could also be worth $1 billion.

Shares in Aspen, rose more than 1 percent on the news, outperforming a 0.7 percent decline in Johannesburg's benchmark Top-40 index.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-aspen-merck-idUSBRE95Q0H520130627

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Shares / Re: Aspen Pharmacare
« on: June 28, 2013, 10:43:49 am »
Quote from: jaDEB on June 28, 2013, 10:38:14 am
Why did we miss this one?

 ???  ???

Haha funny enough we didn't. I just posted in the long term thread reminding about my choice  :D

Orca I'm breathing down your neck in the contest!

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Shares / Re: Keepers - Long term
« on: June 28, 2013, 10:42:04 am »
Quote from: Patrick on June 11, 2013, 06:16:51 pm
If I had to list a company now, and take us to a new sector it would be Aspen.

This one is looking really good at the moment.

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Shares / Re: How does the satrix indi do so well?
« on: June 24, 2013, 02:59:06 pm »
Well the indi is back at March levels, so I'm thinking of putting some more cash down. The divi is back at January 2012 levels  :wtf: so that looks like even more of a bargain...

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Shares / Re: Oceana Group Ltd
« on: June 24, 2013, 02:24:00 pm »
Isn't it post div payout today? Vodacom is, and it's down 6%, OCE is "just" 5.3% today. How much is from the div and how much is is from this investors nightmare market?

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: June 24, 2013, 10:20:07 am »
Quote from: gcr on June 24, 2013, 09:55:53 am
Patrick - if you are going to profile people as traders next year then you should apply tax criteria to those who wish to be treated as a trader. Also once you are treated as a trader you can't be treated as an investor at the drop of a hat - this principle applies when dealing with SARS as they want proof that you are no longer to be categorised as a trader
However to ensure that the competition doesn't become stale maybe allow full/partial sale of part of ones portfolio (arbitrarily 40%) after holding the stock for 12 months, or if this is too difficult then set a window (say 2 weeks) when investors can sell a portion of their portfolio. Another alternative is to run 2 competitions one for investors and another for traders and people if they want can choose either/or or both   

Still a long way to go before next year, but at the moment the thoughts are to have one competition, everyone can sell shares at a loss. If you want to sell shares at a profit you need to change your profile to a trader profile. This will affect which leaderboard you fall onto. There will be one for traders, and another for investors. Perhaps I could do a combined one where the profits of traders are penalised by a percentage to simulate tax. All thoughts for now.

Note that you won't be able to hold a stock for over 12 months, as all holdings will be zeroed again next year. Everyone deserves a second chance right :)

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Shares / Re: Oceana Group Ltd
« on: June 21, 2013, 08:57:11 pm »
Quote from: ptomli on June 21, 2013, 02:27:16 pm
Someone has been having fun  :D

If you can't see it, follow the 2's

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21 Jun 2013 14:26 2 8554 171
21 Jun 2013 14:26 2 8555 171
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21 Jun 2013 14:26 2 8550 171
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21 Jun 2013 14:09 2 8584 172
21 Jun 2013 14:08 2 8544 171
21 Jun 2013 14:08 338 8399 28 389
21 Jun 2013 14:08 2 8546 171
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21 Jun 2013 13:39 9 8220 740
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21 Jun 2013 13:39 500 8279 41 395
21 Jun 2013 13:39 341 8251 28 136
21 Jun 2013 13:39 594 8250 49 005
21 Jun 2013 13:39 752 8250 62 040
21 Jun 2013 13:36 38 8279 3 146
21 Jun 2013 13:36 324 8279 26 824
21 Jun 2013 13:36 138 8279 11 425
21 Jun 2013 13:29 290 8279 24 009
21 Jun 2013 13:29 210 8279 17 386
21 Jun 2013 13:17 189 8300 15 687
21 Jun 2013 13:16 1 624 8301 134 808
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21 Jun 2013 13:16 1 209 8300 100 347
21 Jun 2013 13:13 142 8335 11 836
21 Jun 2013 13:00 92 8300 7 636
21 Jun 2013 13:00 250 8261 20 653
21 Jun 2013 13:00 2 8203 164
21 Jun 2013 13:00 270 8299 22 407
21 Jun 2013 13:00 1 000 8300 83 000
21 Jun 2013 13:00 270 8300 22 410
21 Jun 2013 12:59 337 8260 27 836
21 Jun 2013 12:59 2 8230 165
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21 Jun 2013 12:56 1 010 8200 82 820
21 Jun 2013 12:56 2 8040 161
21 Jun 2013 12:55 2 8040 161
21 Jun 2013 12:55 523 8030 41 997
21 Jun 2013 12:55 2 8050 161
21 Jun 2013 12:55 118 8030 9 475
21 Jun 2013 12:55 354 8306 29 403
21 Jun 2013 12:55 216 8305 17 939
21 Jun 2013 12:55 2 336 8300 193 888
21 Jun 2013 12:55 5 8307 415
21 Jun 2013 12:55 2 8303 166

That's so weird, I hope some poor guys weren't stuck with a tiny order and massive fees!

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Shares / Re: Tax.
« on: June 21, 2013, 08:54:12 pm »
Quote from: Orca on June 21, 2013, 06:17:33 pm
Now you pay tax on your gains as a Trader. Every cent that you gained will be added to any other income you have and be taxed accordingly.

This is the only thing that kept me from offloading all my shares last week. Are you already classed as a trader tgg or have you held your shares for long enough not to be seen as a trader?

As for the contest, next year you'd be able to decide whether you're a trader or investor.

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Off topic / Re: Al-Qaeda: Alive and well in South Africa
« on: June 20, 2013, 10:12:17 am »
Was browsing the daily maverick and saw that they've posted an apology on this piece
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Daily Maverick published an article by De Wet Potgieter entitled “Al-Qaeda: Alive and well in South Africa” dated 13 May 2013, which was posted on the Daily Maverick website. After an exhaustive internal process, we now can acknowledge that there were inaccuracies in relation to Farhad and Junaid Dockrat in the article and we wish to set the record straight.
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-06-19-apology-to-farhad-and-junaid-dockrat-and-our-readers/#.UcK3wJyaS_4

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Shares / OCE
« on: June 19, 2013, 04:16:04 pm »
OCE 85 cents - LDT: 2013-06-21

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Shares / Re: Oceana Group Ltd
« on: June 19, 2013, 03:11:29 pm »
Next months tip for newbies: When jaDEB buys you sell, when jaDEB sells you buy  :LHST:


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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: June 18, 2013, 10:03:44 am »
Quote from: Orca on June 17, 2013, 03:43:36 pm
Patrick. Can you highlight the STXIND index in the groups as it is on the LeaderBoard? Thanks.
Done

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: June 17, 2013, 09:58:29 am »
Suits me fine, go right ahead.

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Shares / Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« on: June 14, 2013, 01:29:00 pm »
Sold out of SGL then? Does that mean you'll choose a different stock in the competition next month?

I've switched my miserably performing Vodacom for some Satrix indi, and bought some more while I was at it, so now I'm 50% CML 50% satrix indi.

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