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1966
Shares / Re: Tax
« on: September 18, 2013, 07:38:28 pm »
Here is the latest one.

TAX ADMINISTRATION

2195. Prescription

APRIL 2013 – ISSUE 163

 

 

The coming into force of the Tax Administration Act (TAA) has brought the issue of prescription into sharp focus. There are two reasons why this is so: firstly, the standard prescription period of three years has been extended to five years for ‘self-assessments’, and secondly the assessment returns seem to require only limited disclosure and taxpayers are left wondering whether the limited disclosure affords them the prescription protection they need.

The reason for the extension of the basic period of prescription from three to five years is to accommodate the system of self-assessment. In light of the fact that the bulk of current assessments are completed on a ‘self-assessment’ basis, SARS requires a longer period in which to interrogate and audit the assessment. Self-assessments require no thought process from an assessor; they are simply captured by the SARS computer system, and theoretically could run the course through to prescription without any intervention in the form of a revenue official applying his mind. Prior to the e-filing self-assessment era, all income tax returns were subject to an assessment of sorts by an assessor whose job it was to identify and query anything problematic. That no longer applies and SARS requires a longer period to enable them to run risk assessment programs or analytics on returns which should identify potentially contentious issues and leave them time to query and reassess where necessary.

The TAA specifically defines a ‘self-assessment’, which on the face of it, gives rise to a surprising result since income tax returns would not constitute ‘self-assessments’ as defined, since self-assessments require a determination of the tax due whereas income tax returns, for companies and individuals, do not require any such determination. On that basis, these returns, not being self-assessments, would be subject to the three year rather than the five year prescription rules.

Whether the three to five year prescription rule applies, the protection afforded by prescription is extremely important for all taxpayers and indeed for SARS too. Taxpayers, who have made full and complete disclosure, are entitled to know that at some point they are beyond the stress of a SARS audit, and SARS needs to ensure that its system highlights and red-flags for query and audit, all those returns which warrant such attention, prior to the prescription period expiring.

In order for this system to work, it is clear that comprehensive and accurate disclosure on well-designed tax returns is critical. Oddly, the standard company tax return remains relatively abbreviated and one would expect in future, for example, a more comprehensive list of questions which would be required to be completed. The e-filing system does not require the submission of supporting schedules or even financial statements – these must simply be prepared and retained on file – so the taxpayer actually has limited opportunity for disclosure even should he wish to disclose more than the return demands. What happens, for example, when a taxpayer claims as a deduction an item which is not separately disclosed on the return, in a situation where the deductibility is somewhat debatable (as frequently happens in tax matters)? One option would be to retain an opinion on file supporting the claim, but that is not always practical. While the system of return disclosure remains in its current imperfect state, it is inevitable that disputes will arise with taxpayers claiming prescription on the one hand, while SARS on the other contests items on returns that have nominally prescribed.  Some legal precedent on this question involving a dispute on an assessment in the e-filing era would be particularly helpful.

Ernst & Young
TAA: Section 1 Definition of ‘self-assessment’

1967
Shares / Re: Tax
« on: September 18, 2013, 06:52:13 pm »
Found this. Can someone please translate it into English please.

Prescription of a tax assessment is an important and powerful tool for a taxpayer when it comes to obtaining certainty in respect of one’s tax affairs and can serve as an important defence when disputing an assessment.  Prescription is governed by section 99 of the Tax Administration Act No. 28 of 2011 (“TAA”).



A three year prescription period applies where the South African Revenue Service (“SARS”) has had a previous opportunity to assess a taxpayer (such as in the case of income tax) and a five year prescription period applies in the case of a self-assessment tax (such as value-added tax (VAT) and employees’ tax (PAYE)).

Generally, the prescription period that prohibits SARS from issuing an assessment does not apply if the reason why the full amount of tax was not charged was due to fraud, misrepresentation or non-disclosure of material facts.  When the tax is a self-assessment tax, the basis on which the period of limitation does not apply differs in that it refers to fraud, as well as intentional and negligent misrepresentation or non-disclosure.

The prescription period that prohibits SARS from issuing an assessment will also not apply where SARS and the taxpayer so agree prior to the expiry of the limitations of time.  Practically, such agreements are often entered into when SARS is conducting an investigation into a complex matter which involves the auditing of substantial information and facts.

Clause 34 of the 2013 Draft Tax Administration Laws Amendment Bill (“the Bill”) provides for an additional circumstance where the period of prescription can be extended.  It proposes to amend section 99 of the TAA by inserting a new subsection (3) which will provide for the extension of the prescription periods where “a taxpayer without just cause fails to submit relevant material requested by SARS for purposes of verification, inspection or audit ... commencing on the day that the relevant material was required to be submitted and ending on the day that the taxpayer submits the relevant material.”

The proposed amendment accordingly appears to have the effect of allowing SARS to extend the prescription periods provided for in section 99 of the TAA where a taxpayer exhibits a certain behaviour vis a vis the provision of information to SARS, assuming SARS was entitled to request the information in the first place.  What is unclear from the provision is what  would constitute “without just cause” where there is a delay in a taxpayer providing information and practically, what interaction is required, if any, where the period for prescription is extended in terms of this provision.  In challenging any assessment, a taxpayer can raise prescription as a ground of objection.  Accordingly, where SARS has relied on this proposed new provision in issuing an adverse assessment on the basis that the period of prescription has been extended due to the taxpayer’s behaviour, this should be able to be dealt with by a taxpayer in the objection and appeal process.

This new proposed provision certainly places an additional burden on taxpayers as regards the timeous provision of information to SARS and may have the effect of weakening the important defence for a taxpayer which prescription presents.  It is certainly a departure from the tool which is currently available to SARS to extend a prescription period which involves participation by the relevant taxpayer, namely where SARS and a taxpayer may enter into an agreement in respect thereof and it could be used by SARS to its strategic advantage when it comes to late requests for information when the prescription date for an assessment is looming.

Due to the important role which prescription can play in tax disputes, it is crucial for taxpayers to be aware of the prescription status of assessments and what rights are available in respect thereof.  Should the new proposed amendment to section 99 of the TAA be adopted by Parliament in the form discussed in this article, taxpayers should be vigilant in respect of information requests from SARS and deal with same fully and timeously.


1968
Shares / Re: SAtrixindi
« on: September 18, 2013, 06:10:05 pm »
The Indi sector has gone up too high according to my brokers. The sector PE is 24x and this is not sustainable. A correction has been overdue for some time and any advances is due to trading and not investing.

1969
Shares / Re: Tax
« on: September 18, 2013, 06:00:15 pm »
Thanks gcr. I will most certainly appeal it. Must do some research first.

1970
Shares / Re: Pulverized Sand Box
« on: September 18, 2013, 05:55:40 pm »
OK everyone. Out this sandbox NOW. It is reserved for me only.  :mad:
PNC made NO profit last 6m. Even bosses selling.
MTA made poor profits so tanking. Now hurrying to acquire foreign Co. to save themselves (and me).
CML is overweight and been flat too long so investors loosing interest.

I normally would have sold all by now but cannot as my gains have been too high and I still have a year and a half left to pay CGT instead of normal tax. :wall:

1971
Shares / Re: Tax
« on: September 18, 2013, 03:52:13 pm »
Just got back from SARS. My tax loss from the 2008/9 crash amounts to -R284k but they say it has prescribed so the loss will not carry over.
Any tax loss or money due older than 3 years is prescribed but money owed by you never prescribes.
This will now cost me plenty. The auditors will get back to me within 3 weeks.

Got sorted with the Request for Correction. I had already clicked on it so it stayed open although I could not see it.

1972
Shares / Re: Tax
« on: September 17, 2013, 07:30:16 pm »
 :wtf: Yesterday I went on SARS website and checked that the "RFC" ie Request For Correction is there. Today I can't find it as I want to correct my returns. It showed that my Adobe is outdated and I updated it. Flash player and reader. Still nix.
Went over to Internet Explorer and SARS shows that I need the latest Adobe??? WTF. I have it.
Went back to Google Chrome and still no RFC. Where has that gone?
have they changed their website?
 

1973
Shares / Re: Tax
« on: September 17, 2013, 05:38:49 pm »
A Tax 22 situation. I don't expect my 3 shares to make any more gains. Actually I expect them to tank and stay down for months. I cannot sell them as my calculations show that if I do then my Tax Owing will be R360k.  :wall:
Selling and buying new stocks will cost another R70K. So now I'm stuck in the brown stuff.  :-[

1974
Shares / Re: Oceana Group Ltd
« on: September 17, 2013, 05:29:53 pm »
Thanks Orca, long term seems OK. But would have preferred it to go up from where I bought it. Not go down then recover to where I bought it ..  :frustrated:

Have patience. Their acquisition of Glenryk plus their fishing quota and rights to fish in their possie will give OCE a big boost next results.  :TU:

1975
Shares / Re: Oceana Group Ltd
« on: September 17, 2013, 01:47:34 pm »
:wall:

jaDEB. Read the comments about OCE on the other forum under CFD's.

1976
Shares / Re: Tax
« on: September 15, 2013, 07:40:47 pm »
Change of intention. How confusing and open ended.

If you had been buying and selling then you are considered as a trader and all your gains are taxed as income. Now if you keep those same shares for 10 or 20 years, they will still be seen by SARS as Trading Shares and will be taxed as Income and not CGT.

The only way to get your "Change of Intention" from Income to Capital Assets is to close your stocks at market value and pay the tax as income. You don't actually have to Sell. You just have to deem them as Sold and pay accordingly. From then onward,  they will be subject to CGT if you keep them for at least 3 years.

I will add the complications of this in a latter post.




1977
Shares / Re: SAtrixindi
« on: September 13, 2013, 01:17:45 pm »
I personally would wait for the Fed meeting next Wed. Too risky now.

1978
Shares / Re: RMB MidCap ETF
« on: September 12, 2013, 10:23:24 am »
I would think that the weighting changes with the stock performance. For example, I started with 50% CML, 25% PNC and 25% MTA. It changed to 80% CML without me having done anything.

1979
Shares / Re: CML
« on: September 12, 2013, 10:13:20 am »
Orca, if CML does tank will you climb in and buy more shares?
No yozzi. I am almost done with active investing as I have just about reached my target and will go for ETF's. Not that CML might be a has been great stock. She will still outperform other fund managers on the safety, risk and consistancy of their portfolios thereby attracting large institutional investors into the future. As the CEO said. " We cannot YET draw a line in the sand and say "This is as far as we can go","
At some stage this "YET" must come to an end as it is becoming increasingly difficult for them to buy and sell billions of Rands in shares. We have seen lately that they have resorted to acquisitions in companies.

1980
Shares / Re: CML
« on: September 11, 2013, 06:31:56 pm »
If you look at the chart, you will see that the TOPI has hit an all time high. That brown line is the 200 day sma and you can see that if the gap gets too wide, she always retreats back towards it. It is not a matter of if but when.
Now this. "when" is important for CML as her year end books close at the end of this month. Should this correction happen before then, then her earnings will get hit badly.
One must also remember that investors are expecting at least 80% increase in earnings and anything below that will send her hurtling downwards.

Just to correct this post.
Diluted HEPS increased by 88% in the 1'st half and I quote.

"EPS and HEPS for the financial year ending
30 September 2013 are expected to be considerably higher than 20% when compared to those for the financial year
ended 30 September 2012."

What they mean by "considerably" higher than 20% is debatable as they ALREADY have 88% on their books. Anything lower than this for full year will be a LOSS for 2'nd half and she will tank.

Please correct me here as I'm not sure about the Divi payout that was 75% of the profit.

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