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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: November 10, 2013, 03:49:25 pm »
You can use the fifo method or the weighted average base cost method but must stick to that method.

If you elect to use the fifo method and cannot buy all the shares on the same day at the same price due to volume,
you can add up all the share costs (Due From You) together and divide it by the amount of shares. This will give you a weighted average base cost for your shares bought for that day at cost.
Now if after a year you add more then do the same calculation. Now you have 2 batches of shares of the same stock at at 2 different base costs.
If you sell, then you must first sell the ones from your first batch. If the first batch is 3 years or older then you will pay CGT less the R30k exclusion. If not, you might have to add all your gains to your other income and pay tax at your normal margin.

I prefer the weighted average method as it is less paper work for me.

1817
The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: November 09, 2013, 08:08:35 pm »
Well  I notched up the ladder 75 places tday...All in a days work. Mainly down to 12% gain today in fgl,1.48% on sol,1% on vod.

Fgl did over 1mil in volume. Keen to see what happens tomorrow. Wonder if this one could be another Capitec...

That will perhaps teach you to pick stocks that are not volatile and cyclical.

1818
Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: November 08, 2013, 08:52:27 pm »
You are right Moon. It was one or the other. Turned out that it was the other. Strange how traders think.

1819
Shares / Re: Oceana Group Ltd
« on: November 08, 2013, 06:33:12 pm »
At least you get a good divi. If that is any consolation.

1820
Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: November 08, 2013, 06:31:40 pm »
Now the markets are totally screwed up. US going strong with the great results. Technicals were in overbought and overvalued region and now increasing. Thought the good news will tank markets but they going up. WTF is going on? QE to end sooner should have prevailed and tanked the US by now.

1821
Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: November 08, 2013, 02:42:29 pm »
A healthy 6-8% correction was due soon anyway. Hope this is it so it can get done and over.  :TU:

1822
Shares / Re: The 2013 Sunday Times Top 100 Companies Results
« on: November 07, 2013, 09:34:52 am »
 :TU: All mine are here. Thanks MP.

1823
Shares / Re: CML
« on: November 06, 2013, 02:55:15 pm »
@Orca, what triggered you into buying CML at the start?

Do you invest in it purely on technicals or do you use the fundamentals too?

Are you constantly adding to your position?

I guess if the fundamentals aren't sound enough hitting that 145 mark might be a challenge.

What is your stop loss set to? and are you using higher highs?

Surely when it starts turning you'll be stopped out. If you made a massive gain on it over time, you should be safe...Not like it could drop 10% or more in 1 day?

I'm not trading it. It is a long term investment so no stop loss.
Was looking for a good steady gainer to make back my 45% loss in a Managed Account during the crash. I also needed to find stocks with the smallest draw downs for withdrawals when I retire. Took me weeks to go through dozens of charts and made a shortlist with stars for best looking charts. CML got the most stars.
Then read all the SENS and news. Checked their websites and gave them stars. CML got the most stars.
Then chucked all my money at her.


1824
Off topic / Re: retiring early
« on: November 06, 2013, 01:13:00 pm »
Seems like my early retirement will happen this Friday. Was so looking forward to it but now that it is a reality feelings have changed.
Have I done the right thing? Will we make it? What if? etc.
I'm not in the 4% thing but more like 6%. I can only just live on 6%.

1825
Off topic / Re: Selling my shop woes.
« on: November 06, 2013, 12:56:01 pm »
Actually, they were oriental. Looked like Chinese mafia. They came back here a few minutes ago with a well dressed guy that has "a good reputation and accounts". Left now to see the landlord.

1826
Off topic / Re: Selling my shop woes.
« on: November 06, 2013, 10:07:23 am »
This Monday 2 guys pitched up with a suitcase full of money. They wanted the business asap.
I sent them to the landlord for his approval and he phoned me yesterday saying that he cannot give them the lease as they have no accounts and no credit history.  :wall:

1827
Shares / Re: Oceana Group Ltd
« on: November 06, 2013, 09:57:13 am »
Looks like that acquisition turned a bit sour and investors don't like it.   :'(

1828
Shares / Re: CML
« on: November 06, 2013, 09:53:05 am »
Look at it this way. CML made massive profits as the SENS showed and the results will be out on the 12'th to confirm this that we already know.
Nothing bar a market crash will stop her reaching 97 by year end even with the market correction due. By May next year she should be hitting the 145 mark.The May results might be a problem though as she cannot beat 100% EPS again. What happens thereafter is anyone's guess.

1829
Shares / Re: SAtrixindi
« on: November 04, 2013, 06:45:55 pm »
To get tax relief, one has to hold the shares for at least 3 years. No matter how good the stock might look now and it's future prospects for further growth, a time will come when it stops performing or tanks. This mostly happens before the 3 years are up and you are forced to make adjustments. You will be extremely lucky if all your stocks keep going up for 3 years. Almost half of your gains will go to tax. That is a waste of your time and money.
For that very reason I would just go for the Indi and chuck it in the bottom drawer.

1-Am I correct in assuming this advice is for someone who has no knowledge at all in investing in stocks aka me?Or is this just general info?

2-By "adjustments" do you mean selling?

3-This may be a silly question, Is there a small chance  that the INDI will plateau in value in under 3 years?


Also,what is the price of the INDI per share right now?I still haven't figured out my interface as yet.

General info boet. I cannot see ALL my stocks surviving for 3 years without some major pullback. So I would rather go for the steady sustained gains with the Indi than go for the 130 percenters pa and have a major pullback and cannot sell due to the moerse gains made.
Point in question is my CML. Last bought at R24 and now at R82. Only held for 1.5 years and have R1.5M in it now. How much tax will I have to pay if I sell on a pullback to R60? At 40% tax, it is not worth it.
Holding on to STXIND that so far seems sustainable as it has been over many years albeit at 30% pa will be a better bet as you can hold it for the 3 year thing and pay very much less tax if you sell.

As much as I want to sell and buy the Indi, I cannot due to tax. I am stuck with CML.

I hate paying tax.


 

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The Investor Challenge / Re: Best portfolio
« on: November 02, 2013, 09:03:29 pm »
As to Bounce. Mostly resources so I cannot comment much as resources are considered as "Trading Stocks" and not "Investment Stocks". Not only my view but most if not all analysts view them as trading stocks.
His gains were opportunistic and will not hold for long term.

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