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Shares / Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« on: April 17, 2013, 05:38:36 pm »
They have it for all, windows, doors, appl, Ipods.
I see they have it for some Linux flavours. I could probably use the one for Fedora 13 on one of my 4 Linux distros.

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Shares / Re: Listed Property
« on: April 17, 2013, 02:49:30 pm »
Oh boy ! Here we go again. Grt vs. Rdf for Fpt

As a holder of both Fpt and Grt, I have always supported Grt's offer and was pissed off that it didn't get to the voting stage.
Now things are really starting to get interesting, as I think the JSE will rule in favour of Growthpoint.

Read all about it in SENS today. http://www.sharenet.co.za/v3/sens_display.php?tdate=20130417132000&seq=22

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The purpose of this announcement is to communicate to Growthpoint linked unitholders and the market in
general:

1.   the background to the Competing Proposals and Growthpoint’s views and position in relation to the evolution
     and resultant outcome of the Competing Proposals; and
2.   processes being pursued by Growthpoint with the relevant regulators and stakeholders to ensure that:
          a. Fountainhead unitholders are afforded the opportunity to consider and vote on the Growthpoint
             Offer, which they have to date been precluded from doing so, due to the continued actions and
             threats of litigation by Redefine aimed at protecting its proprietary interests, which are contrary and
             misaligned with those of Fountainhead unitholders; and
          b. Redefine is precluded from voting its Fountainhead units in terms of the Growthpoint Offer.

The Growthpoint Offer remains at a 11.2% premium to the Fountainhead unit price based on closing prices as at
16 April, 2013, which equates to a premium of R1 166 million.

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In the Fountainhead SENS announcement dated 28 March, 2013, the Independent Committee indicated that
     it would not re-engage with Growthpoint in respect of the Growthpoint Second Offer unless it could be
     proven that Redefine would be precluded from voting its units in respect of the resolutions to approve the
     Growthpoint Offer.

     To this end, Growthpoint has requested a formal ruling from the JSE that Redefine be precluded from voting
     on all resolutions, including the vote required to amend the Trust Deed, and is awaiting the JSE’s response.
     Growthpoint is of the view that the Manco is a related party as defined in terms of the JSE Listings
     Requirements, which is supported by the extraordinary circumstances arising from the continuing conflict of
     interest, Redefine will be precluded from voting on the Growthpoint Offer.

     Growthpoint has to date received letters of support from Fountainhead unitholders confirming their support
     for a vote of Fountainhead unitholders which would specifically exclude those units held by Redefine and its
     associates, and to lodge their vote in favour of the resolutions necessary to implement the Growthpoint

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Shares / Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« on: April 17, 2013, 11:51:24 am »
Down load this thingy, very nice, it keeps Gold, Silver, plat, Pall and Rho prices running live on your computer at the bottom.

http://applications.kitco.com/supportcenter/taskbar/index.html
Thanks, but I don't run Windows.

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Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: April 16, 2013, 05:51:29 pm »
Europe was improving earlier on, now going down again. Could be due to .. IMF Cuts Global Growth Outlook as Europe Demand Urged

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The global economy will expand 3.3 percent this year, less than the 3.5 percent forecast in January, after 3.2 percent growth in 2012, the Washington-based fund said today, cutting its prediction for this year a fourth consecutive time. The Washington-based IMF sees the 17-country euro area shrinking 0.3 percent, compared with a 0.2 percent retreat in January, with France joining Spain and Italy in contracting.

Damn, my defensives, BTI and SAB are not good today. >:(

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Shares / Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« on: April 16, 2013, 04:51:11 pm »
I was going to add this to my previous post, but you beat me to it.

Edit: The above reason is of course not enough to account for the declines. The futures market (COMEX) traded 2300 tons of the stuff on Monday. That is equivalent to 80% of total yearly mine production. Cyprus would be a piddling 10 tons.
A small but powerful number of futures traders are obviously manipulating the market. It will probably take quite some time for the gold price to get back to the 1500/1600$ levels. For instance more QE, instead of a winding down of QE; possible, but that would simply push out the day of reckoning.

The other forum is more for traders (90% of posts), and our friend from MAD.  ;D

1071
Shares / Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« on: April 16, 2013, 04:03:04 pm »
The trouble is that folks are getting impatient with holding and waiting for inflation to take off. That hasn't happened for many years now, on the contrary, there is borderline deflation in many developed economies.
TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected Securities) have accordingly suffered a huge selloff.


TIPS Take a Beating as Inflation Worries Wane

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After buying TIPS through December, the Minneapolis-based firm has been selling the securities. TIPS have suffered a sell- off during each of the past five years even though the Fed has pumped more than $2.5 trillion into the economy through its bond purchase programs in a policy known as quantitative easing.

“We’ve been told to expect inflation every year for the last four years and it hasn’t happened,” James Kochan, chief fixed-income strategist at Wells Fargo Funds Management LLC in Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin, said in an April 10 telephone interview. “I’m not a big believer that you have to buy inflation protection here.” Kochan said he has been advising investors to sell TIPS.

Sorry to take the wind out of your sails JaDEB  ;D

For what it's worth, I reckon that inflation will indeed make an appearance, but who knows  when ? The Japs have been waiting for 20± years.  ;)



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Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: April 16, 2013, 03:48:26 pm »
Looking good in US today (so far).

March CPI: -0.2% actual, -0.1% Briefing.com consensus, +0.7% prior

Core CPI: +0.1% actual, +0.2% Briefing.com consensus, +0.2% prior

Housing starts: 1.036 million actual, 930,000 Briefing.com consensus, 968,000 prior

Building permits: 902,000 actual, 945,000 Briefing.com consensus, 939,000 prior

Industrial production: +0.4% actual, +0.3% Briefing.com consensus, +0.7% prior

Capacity utilization: 78.5% actual, 78.4% Briefing.com consensus, 78.3% prior


The equity market is poised to begin the session on firm footing with defensive consumer staples and health care sectors likely to show early strength after Coca-Cola (KO 41.45, +1.36) and Johnson & Johnson (JNJ 82.45, +0.74) reported better-than-expected earnings.

Elsewhere, Goldman Sachs (GS 147.44, +0.98) is rising 0.7% after the bank's earnings and revenue eclipsed analyst estimates.

Just reported, March industrial production rose 0.4%, which was better than the 0.3% uptick that had been expected by the Briefing.com consensus. Meanwhile, capacity utilization hit 78.5%, which was slightly better than the 78.4% expected by the Briefing.com consensus.

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It will be up, has been for a long time. However I got it in a round-about way due to an account with XXX, and, seeing one would normally need to pay dineros and subscribe, I am not sure what the legalities are re: some or other copyright infringement.
Seeing you have the link now, I will snip it.  :-\

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Shares / Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« on: April 15, 2013, 02:09:30 pm »
The drop in the gold price is said to be due to signs of the US economy improving, and consequently talk of an end to stimulus.
Now can someone explain what degree of improvement is expected given that the worlds second largest trading block, the EU, is
totally and utterly in the doldrums, with several EU members posting negative GDP growth ?
Or is the Yankee market so huge and self sufficient that they don't need to export to the EU ?  :P

I don't quite see a lasting recovery in the USA, just more of the same with occasional positive pointers.
However, I may be totally wrong, after all we have China (sarcasm). (That's one nations products I loathe and
wherever possible try to avoid buying.)  >:(

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Shares / Re: Listed Property
« on: April 15, 2013, 01:53:30 pm »
How does listed property generally handle a bear market? Does the good dividend payments give it some resilience?
Not really any better or worse. In a crash everything, including defensive stocks, drop sharply.
We had a crash in 1987, the good thing was that I could get PUT/PLS stocks on a yield of 18%-20% !
As it stands now, yield is of huge relevance to investors globally due to negative, or close to zero yields
on bonds and other fixed investments. Given that scenario, I would venture to say that our listed property
will this time round be more resilient to a global market crash.

Unfortunately only a charlatan will profess to know exactly what will happen and when it will happen.

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Hi
Believe you can get such from http://www.sharedata.co.za/ but such does require a subscription.
If you have a Standard Bank OST account, such data is also available.
<SNIP>

I will delete the link after 3 hours, to prevent possible infringements.

1077
Shares / Re: Long term investments
« on: April 14, 2013, 06:58:17 pm »
If you ain't a trader watch out.

Stock Market Crash Warning 2013


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All I can think of is PSG  http://news.psgonline.co.za/2013/04/mining-shares-offset-gains-from-industrial-and-financial-shares/ Scroll down to 'Todays Calendar'
TradeWise>Read More

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Shares / Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« on: April 13, 2013, 08:14:50 pm »
More here, Nivek.



1080
Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: April 13, 2013, 06:20:20 pm »
I missed that about the IMF downgrading US growth.

US growth downgrade weighs on JSE

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Johannesburg - The JSE continued on its downward trajectory on Friday afternoon due to a selloff in world markets after news that the International Monetary Fund has downgraded it US economic growth forecast from 2% to 1.7% for this year.

“There is a big selloff in world markets on the back of the IMF downgrade. This selloff has hit the commodity space hardest with the gold price and gold shares dropping fast. A worse than expected retail sales print out of the US also pushed markets lower‚” said Hennie Fourie‚ stockbroker at PSG Konsult.

A bit more pain there for the commodity boffins.

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