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Shares / Re: Gold & Gold Shares
« on: July 12, 2013, 06:51:54 pm »

Do you see a recovery in mining anytime soon? Personally I don't, not with the state of labour as it is. :wall:

Probably best you give this a read: The Art Of Selling A Losing Position
No. Think Eurozone. Without a meaningful recovery there you won't see resources taking off. It is bigger than China's economy, so weak or no growth in Eurozone countries will also stymie China manufactured exports to the Eurozone, meaning less demand for the stuff from China and so on.
Gold - depends on Fed/ECB tapering, when and how much.
Of the precious metals, Platinum probably has the best prospects going forward.

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Shares / Re: Reaching financial freedom
« on: July 11, 2013, 06:54:46 pm »
Patrick, you think like I do. Well said.   :TU:

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: July 11, 2013, 06:53:17 pm »
Once again being audited by SARS. What really pisses me off is that after uploading supporting documents, I later realised that I forgot those relating to CGT, so logged in again, but then the upload fields are greyed out i.e. not accessible.
Whoever set up the efiling system to prevent those that, due to an oversight, omitted one or other supporting document in the initial upload from later simply being able to upload the document they previously forgot to submit, IS A MORON.


EDIT. I think that if one is not a member of a medical aid scheme (like me), and claims for expenses one will always be audited. Same would probably apply if one has made a donation to a PBO (like me).

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Shares / Re: Long term investments
« on: July 05, 2013, 02:28:14 pm »
CCO has a very high PE ratio but that is normal due to the high asset value of the properties they own.

Ah I checked it on FT.com and saw 9.7 and got quite excited. Now I checked on sharenet and see 250! Which one is it?

Edit: Bloomberg has an estimate of 194???
On LSE it's 134 (Dec 2012). Net asset value only 196p and a whopper of a PEG ratio. I would excersise some caution. Price to book value also pretty high.

Here

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Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: July 04, 2013, 03:24:27 pm »
Have you seen the FTSE100 ? Now nearly 3% up on Draghi comments
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European shares rallied the most in more than two months and the euro weakened as European Central Bank President Mario Draghi made an unprecedented pledge to keep rates low for an extended period.
Crazy. BTI = up 3.4%
and SAB = up 4.4%
@15:20 our time in London.

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: July 02, 2013, 06:52:55 pm »
Yes, the collective schemes investment act means that the UT's don't pay CGT, but as a holder you need to pay CGT when you sell units applying weighted average cost.

Any idea if you'd get taxed as a trader for selling unit trusts before the 3 year period is up? My UT has recently upped the fees and I'd be much happier putting those funds into ETFs.
Oh oh, a difficult one. I have never been a UT investor, but would venture to say, seeing that all the trading is done by the UT management companies, one would not get taxed as a trader.
Anyone ?

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: July 02, 2013, 05:29:20 pm »

If you have Unit Trusts that you keep for 10 years and although the stocks within the UT's are also sold and replaced from time to time, you will not be liable for tax until you sell the UT.
Am I correct?
Yes, the collective schemes act means that the UT's don't pay CGT, but as a holder you need to pay CGT when you sell units applying weighted average cost.

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: July 02, 2013, 04:50:27 pm »

what they should do is allow you to use the price of the U/T at time of introduction of CGT - but this is unlikely to happen when dealing with an overzealous collector of taxes     
But they do !
3. How were unit trust investments valued on 1 October 2001?
The market values of units in domestic unit trusts on 1 October 2001 are available on this website and were also published in Government Gazette23037 of 25 January 2002. These values were based on the average of the closing prices at which units could be sold to the management companies (usually the "sell" price quoted in most newspapers) for the last five trading days before valuation date. This valuation excludes initial costs.

http://www.sars.gov.za/TaxTypes/CGT/Pages/CGT-Value-of-Assets-on-1-October-2001-(Unit-trust-prices).aspx

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: July 01, 2013, 08:27:04 pm »
That email stated that if I earn less than R250k then I need not submit a return. The threshold is R63556.00 !!!
I don't understand and I'm only on my 2'nd beer.
No such luck Orca,
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Piet Nel, project director for tax at the South African Institute of Chartered Accountants (Saica), explains that these requirements include that an individual may only earn salary income from one employer. In principle they would only have one IRP5 (a tax certificate from his or her employer), he says.

Additionally, the person may not earn other taxable interest or rental income and is also not entitled to any tax allowances for medical contributions, retirement annuities or business travel expenses.

The government Gazette confirmed that individuals who do earn interest, but would be exempt from paying tax on it because the tax is less than the annual interest tax exemptions (R22 800 for individuals under 65 and R33 000 for persons 65 years and older), would not need to submit a return based on this income alone, he says.

(Gird your loins and grease your skids, tax season is upon us)   :wall:

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Shares / Re: Tax.
« on: July 01, 2013, 06:46:27 pm »
And if SARS sees you as a trader, then the R1000 gain will be added to your income with NO exclusion. If your marginal tax rate is 40% then your effective tax on the gain is 40%. Not so Moon?
Yes Orca, if you are a trader. If not then it is 13.32% if your marginal tax rate is 40%.

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Shares / Re: Tax.
« on: July 01, 2013, 03:50:18 pm »
Thanks for letting me know. That sucks on so many levels  :wall:

well, basically it means that where you previously got 75% of your growth tax free, you now only get 66.7% of your growth tax free when keeping your shares > 3 years
The inclusion rate is 33.3%
Eg. Let's say after deducting the R 30.000.- annual exclusion applicable to capital gains (and losses),
you have R1000.- gain.
Then apply the 33.3% inclusion rate = R 333.-
That amount must be added to your taxable income.
If your marginal tax rate is 40% then your effective tax on the gain is 13.32%
If your marginal rate is 30% then your effective tax on the gain is 9,99%

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Shares / Re: Oceana Group Ltd
« on: June 28, 2013, 04:34:26 pm »
Oh, I see..

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Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: June 27, 2013, 08:08:38 pm »
Statements like this one today, gcr ..

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The better demand today is understandable given the salutary remarks earlier this morning from New York Fed President Dudley who said the market's expectations for an earlier rate hike by the Fed are "quite out of sync" with the Fed's statements.  In other words, Mr. Dudley was saying the market overreacted to the FOMC view communicated last week by Fed Chairman Bernanke.

Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/market-summary.aspx#ixzz2XRPWOWKH

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Shares / Re: Today's Outlook
« on: June 27, 2013, 07:02:38 pm »
JSE and Nelson Mandela
I think with the now long overdue acknowledgement by SA authorities that Madiba is indeed on life support (and has been since Sunday) that we can expect the bourse to drop upon his death - this is purely my view. However some other scenarios may play themselves out, the withdrawal of substantial liquid funds form our shores, since the face of SA will no longer be Mandela's, and I don't think too many people have faith in Zuma783 as the new face of the ANC. I sincerely hope that if a correction does occur that it is not too severe but it is a reality
Any thoughts :(
Nah, I think the statements/views emanating from presidents of the Fed. regarding tapering off of stimulatory measures, will swing our market either way. The Z and M factor could only account for a small blip. When good news from the US equates to good news, as opposed to bad news is good news, we may see a more sustainable positive sentiment globally and here. Nobody knows how things will play out, eg. China coming off the boil may sort of cancel out better US performance.
I reiterate what you said with a rider; "this is purely my view today"
(Tax season soon, gcr, gird your loins mate).  :))

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