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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: January 04, 2014, 09:22:32 pm »
I thought we would start again on 2Jan14......  :-[

edit: sorry, just saw we're going on Monday  :TU:

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: December 23, 2013, 06:40:59 pm »
I note that TCS was suspended today, whats happens if they in ones portfolio, NIL value, a total loss or do they stay there at last traded price.

I would think a total loss and nil value as the shares can,t trade


Isn't the competition over in any case?

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The Investor Challenge / Re: Rules for next year
« on: December 22, 2013, 03:35:59 pm »

No it wouldn't.  But what I find far more insulting is when a chop like tgg* comments on arseholes, while most of his investment is focused on the mining sector.  It does not take a genius to realise that I had a far more balanced portfolio, and despite the "luck" with AH-vest, I would still have been miles ahead of him.

I played the game with the knowledge that we'd be limited by a 1-year cutoff.  Which is why I find it laughable that so many members bleat that they wouldn't have risked investing in penny stocks.

Rather than be a chop about pennies, prevent players from buying the same shares twice within six months.

you seem to have decided that tgg's comment was directed at you - why?

I didn't decide that at all.  You assume too much.  I'm here for the same reasons you are.

well, I understood tgg's comment differently then - aimed at the 1c buyers with shares that have zero liquidity - I would agree that those people are farking up the contest and would not call tgg a 'chop' for that reason

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The Investor Challenge / Re: Rules for next year
« on: December 22, 2013, 03:18:42 pm »

No it wouldn't.  But what I find far more insulting is when a chop like tgg* comments on arseholes, while most of his investment is focused on the mining sector.  It does not take a genius to realise that I had a far more balanced portfolio, and despite the "luck" with AH-vest, I would still have been miles ahead of him.

I played the game with the knowledge that we'd be limited by a 1-year cutoff.  Which is why I find it laughable that so many members bleat that they wouldn't have risked investing in penny stocks.

Rather than be a chop about pennies, prevent players from buying the same shares twice within six months.

you seem to have decided that tgg's comment was directed at you - why?

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The Investor Challenge / Re: Rules for next year
« on: December 22, 2013, 12:45:11 pm »
I don't know about arseholes much...  Personally, I "invested" in AH-vest based on some personal connections, and the fact that it was at an attractive price point.  It recovered slowly, over 6 months, to similar levels it held a year ago.  Hardly the same as buying a 1c share and seeing it double in value in a day or two  ::)  While I concede that the volumes traded is not realistic, there is no way I could have exploited a loophole in the game way back in May.  Some of the comments here really do sound like sour grapes  ;D

At a glance, there are several interesting shares in the sub-R1 list.  Jasco, Gijima and Cadiz come to mind.  I'd say cap it at 10c rather than R1.

I get far more upset at guys having ETFs in their portfolios.  Perhaps they didn't expect that Patrick would make it visible for all to see  8)

would that be "insider trading"?  ;) ??? ::) ;D


Maybe we should set a minimum price for shares that qualify, such as 50c (or whatever) and also a liquidity low level for a previous period, such as at least R10m traded per month over the past year (just an example)

I also believe we should not be allowed to trade, if the prices are not updating, as often happens on a Monday

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: December 09, 2013, 08:01:54 pm »
I just let the conclusion guide me

19. Conclusion
Section 9C provides taxpayers with certainty that if they hold equity shares for at least three continuous years the gains and losses on disposal will be of a capital nature regardless of the intention with which the shares were originally acquired. The section has a much wider application than its predecessor (section 9B) in that it covers unlisted shares and a member’s interest in a close corporation instead of only JSE-listed shares. But not all types of shares qualify under section 9C; for example, non-participating preference shares, shares in foreign companies (other than JSE-listed shares) and participatory interests in portfolios of collective investment schemes in property fall outside section 9C. Its provisions are now mandatory and no election is required or even possible. The wider ambit of section 9C has necessitated the inclusion of a number of anti-avoidance measures. The capital or revenue nature of shares disposed of within three years of acquisition will continue to be determined according to principles laid down by case law.

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: December 09, 2013, 07:16:46 pm »
that could perhaps be different, as SARS wants to grab the last bit they can, but with shares, I never 'inform' them that I'm now selling a trade or an investment - I simply use the period I held the shares and then deduct PAYE or CGT

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: December 09, 2013, 06:57:11 pm »
I hear what you are saying gcr. My broker sends me a yearly summary for tax purposes that is quite adequate for working out my tax. My job is to see to the Base Cost. This I do and print out the Contract Note and file it.

When you stop "trading" your stocks and Change your Intention to Investing, you have to deem your stocks as 'sold" and pay the tax at market value whether you sold or not.

I fortunately sold off my whole portfolio before some bad news and bought back in afterwards. Since then, I have not sold or added to them and consider them as Investment Stocks since then. I now have just over a year to go for the 3 year thingy to Upgrade to CGT.

Post getting too long for attention span. Part 2 coming.

I doubt that..... how does one pay tax on an unrealized "profit"

3 year rule... and tax when you sell

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: December 03, 2013, 07:14:28 pm »
I note that I bought 2496 GFI at 04.03 on 2013/12/03 while l was sleeping? :o

did you get them at good price?  :))

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: December 03, 2013, 01:54:18 pm »
thanks Patrick  :TU:

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: December 02, 2013, 12:30:12 pm »
Patrick, have you decided how to handle the ABL shares after the rights issue?

Exercising the rights, even if it means holders end up in negative cash. I'll have to figure out how to script it soon, then I'll try apply it this afternoon/evening.

that makes sense - thanks Boet!

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The Investor Challenge / Re: investor challenge
« on: December 02, 2013, 12:22:45 pm »
Patrick, have you decided how to handle the ABL shares after the rights issue?

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: November 18, 2013, 11:17:38 am »
yip, I have all the trading notes and enter each transaction into an xls sheet - simple enough

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: November 18, 2013, 10:59:23 am »
AFAIK a balanced portfolio should hold around 10 shares - that would then require 10 accounts  ???

I just have one account and use the 3 year rule O:-)

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Shares / Re: Tax
« on: November 17, 2013, 03:09:45 pm »
no, I would think that "trading account", by it's very name, would mean that each transaction will be taxed as Income

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