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« Reply #5265 on: March 02, 2017, 03:42:54 pm »
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« Reply #5266 on: March 02, 2017, 03:54:17 pm »
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« Reply #5267 on: March 02, 2017, 07:13:10 pm »
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« Reply #5268 on: March 03, 2017, 08:36:59 am »
I neeed coffeee
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« Reply #5269 on: March 03, 2017, 11:32:51 am »
Haha, Lonmin killing me.  But I'm too far in to get out now.

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« Reply #5270 on: March 03, 2017, 11:54:56 am »
Another wonderful day on the JSE I see :(

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« Reply #5271 on: March 03, 2017, 01:07:21 pm »
These investors are F%$#up, yesterday MTN was good enough for 9% inrease. They go home and read results and now it is down 4%
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« Reply #5272 on: March 04, 2017, 02:41:01 pm »
MTN is killing me
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« Reply #5273 on: March 06, 2017, 08:04:29 am »
Take over talks should push the price today?
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« Reply #5274 on: March 06, 2017, 09:35:56 am »
I see there is an article regarding (Moneyweb) regarding Redefine and the impact of Brexit on its portfolio - to the extent that they are or will be considering their dividend distribution going forward.
There are some on this forum who concentrate on dividends as an income stream - surely this is going to be quite devastating to such investors as you get the double whammy of the reduced dividend but also the share price drop and would be hesitant to sell off the shares
Interested in knowing how the dividend seeks would play this - sell, or hold on - or rely on their overall portfolio to bail them out in the longer term
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« Reply #5275 on: March 06, 2017, 09:56:33 am »
Even more so if you consider the "momentum" that comes with people selling off large amount shares

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« Reply #5276 on: March 06, 2017, 10:18:11 am »
I hate capco thanks to brexit it will take me years to recover what was a good gain
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« Reply #5277 on: March 06, 2017, 10:56:30 am »
I also have Capco. But bought about 2 weeks ago.
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« Reply #5278 on: March 06, 2017, 11:45:52 am »
Per my earlier post I see Texton released audited figures this morning div per share (rebased) up 7% to 47,95 cents but div (actual) per share down 6.9% and net asset value down 2.6%.
I have never been an acquirer of these REITS but surely they must be hurting holders of these investments, especially with the increase in tax on dividend tax and also the poor performance of this class of investment especially since Brexit
I see some have commented that they are taking pain - are you expecting to come out of this ok on the other side especially if your dividend stream diminishes and the price keeps falling as that ultimately will have an impact on future dividends - walnuts in a vice comes to mind.
Also does one wait before investing, as these REITS may buy back units which would improve dividend returns but would take a bunch of cash
Those who use these instruments as a source of continuous income/pension streams may wish to comment so that we understand the pitfalls and benefits in what has become a very volatile world market place   
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« Reply #5279 on: March 06, 2017, 12:30:23 pm »
No div. withholding tax on local Reits (Tex) - only on the other one you mentioned RPL
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/alliance-news/detail/1486376095923359200.html

To understand the reasons for somewhat lower earnings outlook, they are moving to an EPRA based earnings metric.
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Distribution policy and outlook

As announced in October 2016, the Company will be moving to an industry standard EPRA-based earnings metric. Adopting this earnings measure, adjusted only for necessary Company specific adjustments, allows for a closer alignment between earnings and operating cashflow.

To facilitate our leverage objectives and to provide greater financial flexibility, a medium-term dividend pay-out ratio within the range of 90% - 95% of our rebased earnings measure will be targeted. In the short term, some degree of flexibility in the pay-out ratio may be required to smooth distributions to shareholders following the transition to the EPRA-based earnings metric.

A full presentation will be delivered to investors and analysts today and will be made available on the Company's website. Shareholders should note the earnings per share guidance of 2.70 to 2.80 pence per share for the financial year ended 31 August 2017 is subject to suitable re-investment opportunities being secured. Growth in earnings per share is targeted to be 3.0% - 5.0% per annum over the medium term, subject to ongoing favourable market conditions.

EPRA Earnings: Exclusion of profits/losses from trading properties. If management consider that trading is a core recurring part of the business activity this could be added
back as a company specific adjustment to show ‘company adjusted Earnings’.

Unfortunately I hold RPL and am very disappointed, especially when compared to most of my other REITS which have returned in excess of 20% p.a. over the past 10 years.
I am down 38% on RPL which I bought 2years before Brexit. About 31% of the negative return is due to Brexit and R/£ xch. rate only.
Will probably sell to offset against a capital gain.

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