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« Reply #4875 on: November 22, 2016, 12:55:35 pm »
ANH :'( BIL :)
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« Reply #4876 on: November 22, 2016, 09:29:45 pm »

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« Reply #4877 on: November 23, 2016, 04:33:07 pm »
Yip I cant fathom why, heard on CNBC that recovery should start after the Xmas season.

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« Reply #4878 on: November 23, 2016, 06:45:53 pm »
The graph of the ALSI started dropping quite dramatically from about 2.30 p.m. today. From about midday today the R/$ exchange rate started deteriorating quite significantly. Zuma was in parliament this afternoon from 3.00 p.m. answering questions but most of the answers have been non answers (typical avoidance and the blame game yet again). They say the market know everything so I think there is a downgrade coming on our ratings but not to junk. Also tomorrow is Thanks Giving in US of A so their markets will be closed.
I think our JSE's poor performance may be as a result of a combination of the above factors and probably another bunch of unknowns
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« Reply #4879 on: November 24, 2016, 09:51:20 am »
Don't know how many forumites hold Rhodes Food Group (RFG), but I do - not a lot 1,500. The company announced a book build exercise this week where they were offering up 25 million shares to institutional investors, but, not to ordinary shareholders. Today they announced the successful placement of all shares at an agreed price of R 26.50 being a 2.3% discount to the 30 day weighted average price. These shares will now rank alongside the ordinary shares and will enjoy any dividends going forward.
I find these types of book build exercises most disingenuous given that ordinary shareholders can't apply in the first instance, secondly the allocation is done at a discount, and thirdly they will enjoy dividends like the excluded shareholders all from a smaller pot of dividend funds. To my mind the shares should have been taken up at a premium so that the ordinary shareholders are compensated in a sense for lose of dividend value.
But hey I suppose that's how the big businesses roll these days - screw the smaller shareholders. This does have a downside of course in that the JSE will not be able to encourage small investors to invest in the JSE boards - in fact our private individual investment in the bourse is nowhere near what the private investment is in say the NYSE, or even the LSE
Just my thoughts on a ticklish issue   
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« Reply #4880 on: November 24, 2016, 10:55:27 am »
GCR - it really depends what they do with the money. Since listing, RFG as been highly acquisitive, using listing money as well as debt. I understand there are more acquisitions on the horizon money will have to come from somewhere. I have no problem as long as management use capital wisely and will be watching EPS closely. It's not like they using this money to did them out of a hole, as many issues are.

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« Reply #4881 on: November 24, 2016, 11:45:05 am »
GCR - it really depends what they do with the money. Since listing, RFG as been highly acquisitive, using listing money as well as debt. I understand there are more acquisitions on the horizon money will have to come from somewhere. I have no problem as long as management use capital wisely and will be watching EPS closely. It's not like they using this money to did them out of a hole, as many issues are.
Concur with your views but I am merely lamenting the fact that I as a private shareholder didn't get the opportunity to take up additional shares, which I could have done. Anyway I can now buy at less than R 26.50 as they have fallen back to R 26.38 (11:43:25) :TU: 
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« Reply #4882 on: November 24, 2016, 02:06:36 pm »
So it seems the world is saved and nobody needs gold anymore ... sweet

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« Reply #4883 on: November 24, 2016, 02:44:24 pm »
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Anyway I can now buy at less than R 26.50 as they have fallen back to R 26.38

sticking it to the institutions!  :D

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« Reply #4884 on: November 25, 2016, 06:24:55 pm »
Fitch Ratings has dropped South Africa's outlook to negative, while affirming the country’s rating at BBB-, which is one notch above junk status, it said on Friday.

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« Reply #4885 on: November 26, 2016, 10:31:33 am »
Moody's left everything unchanged.

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« Reply #4886 on: November 27, 2016, 06:29:09 pm »

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« Reply #4887 on: November 28, 2016, 06:54:40 am »
And who's done the charging? The new public protector of course. As if it wasn't obvious enough that she turned all the tv channels to Gupta tv.

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« Reply #4888 on: November 29, 2016, 02:20:40 pm »
Zzzzzz
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« Reply #4889 on: November 29, 2016, 03:50:01 pm »
Do u know a rat can swim for 3 days before he drowns ?
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