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« Reply #4545 on: August 31, 2016, 11:59:24 am »
"There are two key parts to this. Firstly, it means that the 15% dividends withholding tax that is applied to dividends paid out by ordinary shares does not apply to distributions from REITs.  Instead they are included in the recipient’s taxable income with no exemptions. So the full amount is taxed at the shareholder’s normal tax rate." http://www.moneyweb.co.za/uncategorized/reit-investments-and-tax/

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« Reply #4546 on: August 31, 2016, 04:14:16 pm »
S. Africa’s Biggest Debt Manager Halts Loans to State Firms.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-31/south-africa-s-biggest-debt-manager-halts-loans-to-state-firms-isiw5p8u

"Africa’s biggest private fixed-income money manager will stop lending money to six of South Africa’s largest state companies because it’s concerned about how they are being run, government infighting and threats to the independence of the finance ministry."

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« Reply #4547 on: August 31, 2016, 04:23:22 pm »
Yes, Patrick. The way I understand it is the full amount, i.e. the recipient's taxable income for the year including dividends from REITs, is added up and taxed at the shareholder's normal tax rate.

Does the taxman deduct the normal tax rate for every trade? If he did, and I traded 10 times in the year, then I would pay 130% tax. I'm under the impression, as a provisional taxpayer, that all my profits and losses get added up at the end of the year, added to my other taxable income including divis from REITs, and the total taxed at my normal rate. I am fairly positive I am correct.

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« Reply #4548 on: August 31, 2016, 05:23:53 pm »
Woolies???

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« Reply #4549 on: August 31, 2016, 05:28:19 pm »
Hey Bread, the taxman only takes 30% of your profits when ranking you on the leaderboard. No money is actually removed from any accounts. In theory though, i should take give you 15% more cash for your REIT dividend, and then subtract 30% of that on the leaderboard only.

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« Reply #4550 on: September 01, 2016, 06:28:49 am »
OK, so if we're on the same page..........no tax is taken off from REIT divis ever, other divis are taxed at 15% when they're added, no tax is taken when I sell at a profit during the course of the year, but the final tally of all profit for all trades is taken off at 30% at the end of the year. Correct?

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« Reply #4551 on: September 01, 2016, 07:48:43 am »
Almost, at year end we shoud tax the reit divvie 30%, but for now we can fix it manually by adding another dividend of 0.203 * the original dividend to the REITs.

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« Reply #4552 on: September 01, 2016, 07:54:03 am »
Ok fixed and added to the LDT/divi system

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« Reply #4553 on: September 01, 2016, 09:43:54 am »
Mr P down another 6%
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« Reply #4554 on: September 01, 2016, 10:24:35 am »
Just bought Mr P

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« Reply #4555 on: September 01, 2016, 10:43:02 am »
Nice, your big b@lls is in isle 5 behind the shirts
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« Reply #4556 on: September 01, 2016, 10:51:55 am »
In real or in investor challenge
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« Reply #4557 on: September 01, 2016, 01:06:12 pm »
I too bought MPR with my Sept allocation in the competition and in my real portfolio am trying to sell some shares in other companies to enable me to buy more MRP - so far their drop has cost me +/- R 138,000 in profits. I have no doubt they will return to previous prices - it may just take 6 months or so
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« Reply #4558 on: September 01, 2016, 01:22:50 pm »
Bought in Competition and clearly the droppe even further :mad: :wall:

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« Reply #4559 on: September 01, 2016, 01:46:02 pm »
ALso bOughT MrP with SePt ALOCatiOn iN Compt.
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