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Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 09:51:18 am
The live chat is just too heavy on the server in it's current form. When I added it to the challenge site it completely shut down the server! I'm going to have to find another way...
Title: Re: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 09:52:02 am
Just replying to myself. I'm not mad, I have a good reason...
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 10:29:11 am
still chatting away
Title: Re: Live chat
Post by: Aragorn on January 15, 2014, 10:37:06 am
still chatting away
Should we join the conversation?
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 10:41:01 am
soon :)
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Post by: Dolby on January 15, 2014, 11:06:05 am
did someone kick me out?
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Post by: Dolby on January 15, 2014, 11:06:22 am
pretty sure i was in mybb
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Post by: Awtron on January 15, 2014, 11:10:00 am
This is pretty cool
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 15, 2014, 11:12:13 am
Patrick - thanks!
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 11:25:09 am
I'm just typing a long message here to see how it wraps. I'm just typing a long message here to see how it wraps. I'm just typing a long message here to see how it wraps. I'm just typing a long message here to see how it wraps. Does it wrap properly??????
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 11:25:54 am
seems it does :)
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 11:27:12 am
Ok, the new live chat has been coded, seems much lighter this time!
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 11:28:40 am
Patrick, I have tablets that help me calm down when I talk to myself.
Title: Live chat
Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 11:30:50 am
u are doing a awesome job by the way....like you actually care about your visitors
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Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 11:31:26 am
The other site does too, they even offer them handbags to buy ;)
Title: Live chat
Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 15, 2014, 11:32:46 am
Works cool!
Title: Live chat
Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 11:42:58 am
GLN   :TU:
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 11:43:42 am
OK smileys not working, but that is fine .. not required
Title: Live chat
Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 11:44:03 am
GLN  :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 11:44:23 am
(.) (.)
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Post by: Dolby on January 15, 2014, 12:25:35 pm
oh - only one group at a time ... ?
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Post by: phakt on January 15, 2014, 12:38:59 pm
Yup, figured out it's one group at a time
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Post by: phakt on January 15, 2014, 12:39:11 pm
So no MyBB and friends group for you!
Title: Live chat
Post by: Warren_Buffet on January 15, 2014, 01:01:57 pm
very nice!
Title: Live chat
Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 15, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
Patrick - any response on that advance :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 15, 2014, 01:46:12 pm
@Patrick:  Handbags? Really? I'm moving over there then.
Title: Live chat
Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 02:21:35 pm
U have to trade CFD's to get handbags and other SPAM related items
Title: Re: Live chat
Post by: modern10 on January 15, 2014, 02:38:27 pm
Cutlery maybe

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Title: Live chat
Post by: Aragorn on January 15, 2014, 02:39:02 pm
Latest is Cheap Kitchens and Nike I'm afraid
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Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2014, 03:33:11 pm
@marksaved advances can be had. simply send me a check and I'll deposit it in your trading account ;)
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 15, 2014, 03:42:48 pm
Patrick...can that be a funny money cheque? :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 06:04:00 pm
Frikkit Orca's on pension .... not even here !!!
Title: Live chat
Post by: Orca on January 15, 2014, 06:12:19 pm
Just posted.
Title: Live chat
Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2014, 06:36:19 pm
Cool, have a nice evening
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Post by: Drummer on January 15, 2014, 06:36:46 pm
Testing !!
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Post by: Orca on January 15, 2014, 07:18:59 pm
Where everyone go?
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Post by: Orca on January 15, 2014, 07:21:05 pm
only done 40 squats and it is only 7.20 pm.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 16, 2014, 08:09:06 am
Morning all...
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 16, 2014, 08:45:32 am
hallo :-)
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Post by: aspire on January 16, 2014, 08:45:59 am
I like this
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 16, 2014, 10:02:47 am
morning!
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 16, 2014, 10:03:23 am
Wonder what Telkom is going to do to day with the CFO in the 'hot seat'
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 16, 2014, 10:08:57 am
@ m s d: Not much I think, when news broke last year they actually went up next day
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 16, 2014, 10:10:02 am
How do you go about deleting here on shout box, via 'off topic' link?
Title: Live chat
Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 16, 2014, 10:10:28 am
Yeah - but wonder what will happen if he is cleared vs found guilty
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Post by: Patrick on January 16, 2014, 10:31:56 am
yeah you can delete in the off topic thread
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 16, 2014, 02:08:11 pm
Go Telkom! (never thought I would say that!)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 16, 2014, 03:18:29 pm
Glencore :-)
Title: Re: Live chat
Post by: Orca on January 16, 2014, 03:24:58 pm
Have a look at the shoutbox in Android. Faaar too long.
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 16, 2014, 03:42:17 pm
Too long on the competition site, or on the forum?
Title: Live chat
Post by: Moneypenny on January 16, 2014, 04:47:37 pm
both sites, same with i-phone & i-pad
Title: Live chat
Post by: Orca on January 16, 2014, 04:48:49 pm
Both have 51 conversations.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 16, 2014, 04:53:10 pm
so stop talking ;-)
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 16, 2014, 04:54:40 pm
Resources doing quite well 2day
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Post by: Orca on January 16, 2014, 05:04:13 pm
I'm not. I'm shouting. The prob is that windows has a sliding scroll thing and tablets do not.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 16, 2014, 05:08:23 pm
you're right
Title: Re: Live chat
Post by: Orca on January 16, 2014, 05:14:40 pm
Like here in this pic.
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 16, 2014, 06:06:57 pm
can you show me on a tablet. its meant to have it all over so you can see previous messages
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Post by: Patrick on January 16, 2014, 08:10:03 pm
Limited the number of conversations to show at once to 4. Better?
Title: Live chat
Post by: jaDEB on January 17, 2014, 07:48:00 am
Morning all...
Title: Live chat
Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 17, 2014, 08:04:37 am
Morning
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Post by: Aragorn on January 17, 2014, 08:25:53 am
A great effort Patrick. Can you increse the number from 4 to say 8? Clicking Chat History opens the the forum topic within this tiny space and is not really navigable.
Title: Live chat
Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 08:38:18 am
How's life? ;-)
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 08:40:37 am
@A and P:  4 works for mobile devices, 8 for rest, how 'bout moving it to the bottom of site and keeping it as it was in the beginning?
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 17, 2014, 08:41:26 am
Many options, trying 8 now. Is that too long MP&orca?
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 08:42:43 am
Let my change to mobile
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 08:45:26 am
It looks just fine on both iphone & ipad for me, tx ;-)
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 08:46:16 am
Orca & Aragorn, what say you?
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 17, 2014, 08:46:33 am
Trying something that's aimed at apples: overflow-scrolling: touch; how does that look?
Title: Live chat
Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 08:53:42 am
What the h is overflowing-scrolling touch? Meaning that if you tap 'history' it link to Live chat page? If yes, works nice for apples
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 17, 2014, 08:59:47 am
its meant to keep the size down but let you scroll by fingertip instead of scrollbar. does it work or do you see 8 lines instead of 4 or 5?
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 09:10:18 am
no, not scrolling with fingertips on either devices, i see all 8
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 09:14:19 am
but it works well as is now, no worries
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Post by: Patrick on January 17, 2014, 09:16:24 am
Ok, I'm trying one more thing to make it scroll. Apple is trying to beat me but I will not surrender. Any change?
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 17, 2014, 09:23:47 am
Lol, on pad I see only 1 line, not scrolling - on phone the live chat is gone. Apple wins ;-0
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Post by: Patrick on January 17, 2014, 09:42:02 am
haha ok I'l put it back on 8 and leave it there for now...
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Post by: Patrick on January 17, 2014, 09:43:28 am
normal again?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 17, 2014, 10:55:55 am
GLN hit the R60 level come on ..... come on...pic of cheerleader -> here
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Post by: Patrick on January 17, 2014, 11:19:42 am
If you put the pic in the chat thread, people can click on your message to see it...
Title: Live chat
Post by: jaDEB on January 17, 2014, 11:22:45 am
No, you can use your Imagination...works better, then Moneypenny's cheer leader is George Clooney
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Post by: ShareMeister on January 17, 2014, 02:49:39 pm
Hi there.  Arcmittal (ACL) 15 min delayed price on Sharenet is 3949 but here its 3924.  Am I maybe missing something?  :)
Title: Live chat
Post by: ShareMeister on January 17, 2014, 02:50:44 pm
Ah nvm its updated now :)
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Post by: ShareMeister on January 17, 2014, 02:50:45 pm
Ah nvm its updated now :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 17, 2014, 03:24:10 pm
Totsiens almal - have a nice week end ...
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Post by: Orca on January 17, 2014, 04:28:46 pm
Hey. Get back here. It's not 5pm yet.
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Post by: Aragorn on January 18, 2014, 09:26:26 am
Working on a Sat really SUCKS.........But we gotta do what we gotta do.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 18, 2014, 10:11:35 am
Yes we do FFS....
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Post by: jaDEB on January 18, 2014, 10:14:58 am
Patrick do we get overtime for posting on a saterday
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Post by: Patrick on January 18, 2014, 12:18:11 pm
Sure, left it under your profile name ;)
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Post by: Moonraker on January 18, 2014, 01:02:00 pm
I see, but do we get Karma for not posting on Sundays ?
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Post by: Delusionsofgrandeur on January 19, 2014, 02:04:08 pm
forex
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2014, 07:59:39 am
LOL Morning all...good luck 4 today..from Weekend warrior.thks patrick
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Post by: Aragorn on January 20, 2014, 08:33:19 am
Investor Challenge hanging this morning - is it just me or is something else awry?
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 20, 2014, 08:43:50 am
Ha,ha, WW! Hi there all. ;-)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2014, 11:06:24 am
I thought GLN would be negative today...see it is positive :)
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Post by: Patrick on January 20, 2014, 11:06:53 am
More details please Aragorn...
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2014, 11:07:18 am
Woner where is MrMafia?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2014, 11:07:32 am
*wonder
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Post by: MrMafia on January 20, 2014, 11:26:27 am
I'm lurking :)
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Post by: Aragorn on January 20, 2014, 12:43:41 pm
@Patrick - seems sorted now. Took forever to load any pages. Forum was fine though.
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Post by: Orca on January 20, 2014, 05:20:11 pm
Last week I was at position 60 and now can't find my name anywhere there. Please help.
Title: Live chat
Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2014, 05:27:39 pm
u number 8, I is number 5 ... bring it on ....
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Post by: Orca on January 20, 2014, 05:41:38 pm
Not sure I can. You Boxburg guys are rough.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2014, 08:08:55 am
Morning all...
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 21, 2014, 08:52:50 am
Hi
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Post by: Orca on January 21, 2014, 11:45:35 am
jaDEB. I don't need to go up as you are coming down to me. Hahaha
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2014, 11:59:16 am
lol  :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2014, 02:27:58 pm
Ag Mr GLN, U cannot let Orca beat me, please !!
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Post by: Orca on January 21, 2014, 02:28:16 pm
There we go. I didn't even move and here is jaDEB.
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Post by: modern10 on January 21, 2014, 04:48:24 pm
Noooo
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2014, 05:07:34 pm
That is unfair Patrick u advertising Orca shares on this website ...
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Post by: Patrick on January 21, 2014, 06:24:39 pm
CML jadeb? What's up modern?
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Post by: Patrick on January 21, 2014, 06:24:40 pm
CML jadeb? What's up modern?
Title: Re: Live chat
Post by: Orca on January 21, 2014, 06:43:48 pm
No no P. CML is dated. MTA is the new one. And PNC. Where have you been?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2014, 07:56:41 am
Morning all, yes CML add running...just kiddin. Nice to see your adds. FHM adds ? on the way?
Title: Live chat
Post by: Patrick on January 22, 2014, 08:23:28 am
It all depends on what we're talking about, and what websites you've been browsing...
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2014, 10:14:17 am
there it is again.. see attached
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Post by: MrMafia on January 22, 2014, 12:47:51 pm
Can I borrow someones shares to short sell gold and platinum? :D
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2014, 01:25:44 pm
u will short gold at such low price?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2014, 01:58:42 pm
uurrg, just came back from "Other site" I feel dirty...
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 22, 2014, 02:58:16 pm
still looking for that advance on Feb's R100 000
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Post by: Orca on January 22, 2014, 03:04:27 pm
Tell us if you find it.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 23, 2014, 08:15:02 am
Morning
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 23, 2014, 08:29:21 am
Hey
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Post by: Delusionsofgrandeur on January 23, 2014, 10:22:08 am
ellies
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Post by: MrMafia on January 23, 2014, 02:14:16 pm
Beginners luck!  I know nothing about investing... :(
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Post by: jaDEB on January 23, 2014, 02:53:28 pm
That is how u learn ....
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 23, 2014, 03:35:16 pm
go it group!!!
Title: Live chat
Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 23, 2014, 03:35:50 pm
orca...you wana halfies an advance?
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 23, 2014, 03:36:39 pm
Patrick, can you add time stamps for our comments here?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 24, 2014, 08:12:37 am
Morning all
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Post by: Patrick on January 24, 2014, 08:28:39 am
Morning. Dates and times added, but do we need the dates or should I just leave the times?
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Post by: Patrick on January 24, 2014, 08:32:31 am
Ok just have the day listed, I think I'll stick with that.
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 24, 2014, 10:51:20 am
looks awesome! thanks Patric
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 24, 2014, 10:51:22 am
looks awesome! thanks Patric
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Post by: Orca on January 24, 2014, 11:03:55 am
ZAR getting slaughtered today. My poor PNC.
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Post by: Motown Capital on January 24, 2014, 12:16:22 pm
Hi guys, how do I go about requesting for shares to be added to the list of existing shares in the "Buy Shares" tab? Cheers
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Post by: Aragorn on January 24, 2014, 12:49:03 pm
NPN killing me in the challenge - was above 20th place yesterday, now below 100th
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Post by: Fundamental on January 24, 2014, 12:53:30 pm
Can the leaderboard be changed to reflect total worth?
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Post by: Patrick on January 24, 2014, 01:06:53 pm
@fundamental, nope you have to pay tax!
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Post by: Patrick on January 24, 2014, 01:19:58 pm
@motown, make your case here: http://www.shareforum.co.za/the-investor-challenge/how-to-identify-frequently-traded-shares/
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Post by: Orca on January 24, 2014, 01:33:22 pm
NPN gone too high above the 200ma. Back to 1000?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 24, 2014, 02:45:09 pm
R/$ R11.10 Gold 1268 - do we have gold shares ... No !!  :'(
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Post by: Motown Capital on January 24, 2014, 05:25:36 pm
Cheers Patrick
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 24, 2014, 06:29:34 pm
In SHF CFD real money, good luck 2 me. ;-0
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 24, 2014, 06:31:24 pm
O ja @ 4569
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Post by: Orca on January 24, 2014, 08:49:07 pm
How bout another blog P.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 08:12:53 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 27, 2014, 08:36:54 am
Hi
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Post by: Patrick on January 27, 2014, 09:27:32 am
Greetings from a very wet Lusaka.
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 27, 2014, 09:36:53 am
Why didn't anyone tell me to sell Telkom?? LOL
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 10:24:38 am
With $ @ R11.19 something is going to hit the fan...ffs
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 11:30:23 am
LOL Now gold is suddenly a safe haven again... frikkin finanacial chops..
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 11:30:49 am
* Financial
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 11:35:24 am
How is Zambia? Patrick?
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Post by: Motown Capital on January 27, 2014, 11:39:03 am
what u up to in Zambia Patrick?
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 27, 2014, 12:58:03 pm
R/$ 11.13 Defensive rate hike next?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 01:23:42 pm
Please no !!!
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Post by: Moonraker on January 27, 2014, 01:24:21 pm
Should happen, but won't. Eh, and why always in increments of ½% ?
(What's wrong with ¼% - no rule states must be half).
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 01:27:34 pm
Let them do it before elections ....  :'( ... E-tol and all...
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 27, 2014, 02:44:11 pm
What do you guys think about Telkom going forward?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 02:53:23 pm
7 May 2013 it was at R12. It was a good buy then. another boat we missed as we did with ACL
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 03:06:25 pm
I think shares we should put in forum for history purpose.
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Post by: Motown Capital on January 27, 2014, 03:27:20 pm
I wouldn't buy Telkom now, at its 52-week high, rather fish for something at its 52 week low, like SHP or TRU, wait for it to turn
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 04:10:41 pm
I agree with Marvin Gaye
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Post by: Orca on January 27, 2014, 04:44:55 pm
jaDEB talking to dead people?
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Post by: Orca on January 27, 2014, 05:09:15 pm
Oh. Hi jaDEB. You right above me again. Now don't fart on my head.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2014, 05:18:15 pm
I is scared if Orca is behind me, thus I would prefer you in front.
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Post by: Orca on January 27, 2014, 05:24:09 pm
Oh shoot. Slipped back at auction.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2014, 08:20:15 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 28, 2014, 08:28:20 am
Hallo
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Post by: Patrick on January 28, 2014, 01:45:01 pm
Checked the leaderboard for the first time in a while. Looks like Fundamental is the top ranked "Trader"
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Post by: Nimz on January 28, 2014, 02:08:48 pm
hey guys
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Post by: Nimz on January 28, 2014, 02:08:49 pm
hey guys
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Post by: Patrick on January 28, 2014, 03:01:37 pm
Nimz, when are you entering the challenge?
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Post by: Fundamental on January 28, 2014, 05:27:23 pm
@Patrick, thanks was trading a bit at the start to try out the selling feature you implemented for this years challenge - holding onto my stock for now
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Post by: Delusionsofgrandeur on January 29, 2014, 07:20:56 am
critique
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 29, 2014, 08:55:35 am
jaDeb, where art thou? Nobody saying hallo.☺
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Post by: Aragorn on January 29, 2014, 08:57:18 am
Morning Miss Moneypenny....
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 29, 2014, 09:43:15 am
Hallo Middle Earth :D
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Post by: jaDEB on January 29, 2014, 09:57:41 am
Morning all ...
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 29, 2014, 10:13:14 am
Other emerging markets taking action with rate hikes (Turkey & India), wonder if we will follow suit @ 15:00?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 29, 2014, 10:37:15 am
OK, GLN u go to R65, OCE u drop to R82, then I will swop.
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Post by: Fundamental on January 29, 2014, 01:29:17 pm
NPN rallying for the past two days
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Post by: Moonraker on January 29, 2014, 01:48:53 pm
After the enormous Turkey hike, I revise my opinion and now forecast a ½% increase in repo.
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Post by: Fundamental on January 29, 2014, 03:21:01 pm
Repo rate to be increased by 0.5% (50 basis points)
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Post by: Orca on January 29, 2014, 03:26:08 pm
Moonraker wins.
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Post by: Orca on January 29, 2014, 03:31:38 pm
NPN made a mistake and has to go down to yesterday's high at 109500.
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Post by: Orca on January 29, 2014, 03:34:22 pm
God said that good, honest wives will be found on all corners of the world. Then he made the earth round and laughed and laughed.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 29, 2014, 03:59:20 pm
Jislaai oom, jou auntie gaan jou uithaal.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 29, 2014, 04:00:13 pm
Dual listed co's not doing bad considering the .5% - exp SHF
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Post by: Orca on January 29, 2014, 05:30:32 pm
17.30 and the prices haven't updated.
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Post by: Orca on January 29, 2014, 05:31:59 pm
Oh. Just did now.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 29, 2014, 05:47:16 pm
Rant @ R11.21  :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on January 29, 2014, 05:48:08 pm
My damn games is going to cost more, being imported and all  ;'(  :'(  :'(
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Post by: aae on January 29, 2014, 08:38:46 pm
what games you play, I do the pc game route and they are buy for self only.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 30, 2014, 07:59:53 am
Battlefield4, dota,guildswar2 & Comp of heroes 2, all online
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Post by: jaDEB on January 30, 2014, 08:00:35 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 30, 2014, 09:01:09 am
Hey
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Post by: jaDEB on January 30, 2014, 10:19:55 am
OCE down 6% wtf (frikkie)
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Post by: Hstig on January 30, 2014, 12:11:42 pm
why is the site not updating share values?
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Post by: Warren_Buffet on January 30, 2014, 12:53:55 pm
doesn't look like anything has been updated today as yet
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Post by: Patrick on January 30, 2014, 03:04:21 pm
JSE feed is dead. just switched to the backup
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Post by: Hstig on January 30, 2014, 03:14:00 pm
Cool, but I am sure that Naspers isn't valued at 0 LOL
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Post by: Hstig on January 30, 2014, 03:51:13 pm
looks fixed up now
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Post by: Patrick on January 30, 2014, 04:27:32 pm
Yep, horrible piece of code to sort that out...
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Post by: Patrick on January 30, 2014, 04:33:35 pm
damn still some issues!
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Post by: Patrick on January 30, 2014, 04:44:06 pm
Hope that covers it. Now to find out why I can't get the prices from the JSE.
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Post by: Patrick on January 30, 2014, 04:47:34 pm
Looks like there's a break between my server in the states and SA somewhere...
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 31, 2014, 07:59:19 am
Hey all, has the issue been resolved?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 31, 2014, 08:16:36 am
Morning all
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Post by: Patrick on January 31, 2014, 09:22:35 am
Morning jaDEB. @mark, updates are working via the backup link. Main link still down, I'll leave it till monday and see if it comes back up...
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Post by: garethtwilliams on January 31, 2014, 09:40:12 am
bfs
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 31, 2014, 09:51:10 am
OK cool - was just wondering if my Telkom was really still as bad :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 31, 2014, 01:50:50 pm
SGL @ R16.08 Whaahahaha :( :(
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on January 31, 2014, 03:02:06 pm
Telkom!!! I should have known better!
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Post by: jaDEB on January 31, 2014, 03:46:17 pm
LOL, that is why I use 3G for my gaming. More expensive, but I get my addiction without interuptions (spell chikker on)
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Post by: giggsie on January 31, 2014, 04:06:15 pm
@ Mark... now you know how i feel!
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Post by: Patrick on February 02, 2014, 10:31:49 am
Leaderboard is a little confused, but not to worry all pending prices will be corrected on Monday
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 03, 2014, 07:23:39 am
Dear Admin, I can not find the 'buy short button' on the competition, please advise. ;0
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Post by: Patrick on February 03, 2014, 07:38:18 am
Hahaha!
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2014, 08:18:18 am
Mornin all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 03, 2014, 09:16:38 am
What was the outcome re delayed price buying in the IC? Do we get the price as indicated on the buying list or edited price whenever it updates? Apologies, didn't follow the discussion.
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Post by: Patrick on February 03, 2014, 09:26:08 am
You get the price after the update. It'll do the trade at current pricing, but update it after 15 or so minutes.
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 03, 2014, 09:29:47 am
Geez, that's risky for day trading, using 2 min charts here you know? lol, But nothing ventured... , tx :-)
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Post by: Patrick on February 03, 2014, 09:41:22 am
Check out all the red: http://www.investorchallenge.co.za/com_share_stats.php
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2014, 03:37:18 pm
uhh Patrick ?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2014, 03:55:43 pm
Why did you not remind me abour 100K for comp...
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Post by: Patrick on February 03, 2014, 05:03:22 pm
Didn't you get an email? Anyone else not get it?
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 03, 2014, 05:35:13 pm
I did.  Maybe a blessing in disguise jaDeb, mine is < 100K now.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2014, 05:39:48 pm
Nope, no mail, but not to worry. I should remember, as I do to take my tablets.
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Post by: Orca on February 03, 2014, 05:40:09 pm
Should have waited for the correction to play out :(
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Post by: Patrick on February 04, 2014, 07:38:42 am
Just a quick question for the players, did everyone else get the mail about the deposit?
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Post by: Nios on February 04, 2014, 07:52:32 am
yes
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2014, 07:53:12 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 04, 2014, 07:55:47 am
Morning Angels ;)
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Post by: Aragorn on February 04, 2014, 08:03:24 am
Morning - and yep I got the mail yesterday @ 9.59 am
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Post by: Patrick on February 04, 2014, 08:40:50 am
Thanks Aragorn and Nios. jaDEB check your spam folder ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2014, 08:57:31 am
I have , Keep your girlfriend delighted...is that it?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2014, 08:59:32 am
Nope, but let's not worry about that. Today is going to be a crap, mail or no mail.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2014, 09:21:54 am
lol to scared to press "refresh" on shares page..
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 04, 2014, 09:46:37 am
tbh, I expected worse, Europe joins in 14 min
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Post by: Patrick on February 04, 2014, 09:50:52 am
Seems I added the right pic to the blog...
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Post by: Aragorn on February 04, 2014, 10:37:13 am
Waiting for NPN to drop below R1100 before bying more for the comp.
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 04, 2014, 11:07:59 am
Agree on NPN
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 04, 2014, 11:08:15 am
blog, which blog? 

Edit: Got it - P plz start a new topic for your blog on forum, this way I won't miss all your words of wisdom and encouragement again. ;D
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Post by: Patrick on February 04, 2014, 02:25:36 pm
I haven't written in ages, just posted the deposit notification in the blog. I'll write again as soon as I feel like a wise old man.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2014, 04:02:48 pm
Maybe also include google maps, so we can find nearest bridge.
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Post by: MulaShare on February 04, 2014, 04:10:26 pm
vodacom
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Post by: Orca on February 04, 2014, 05:37:35 pm
What went up today will go down tomorrow and vica versa
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2014, 05:40:43 pm
Yes, agree with you, some will recover faster than others
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Post by: jaDEB on February 05, 2014, 07:49:39 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 05, 2014, 08:22:49 am
Hey All. @ griff: what was your first clue? ;0
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Post by: Aragorn on February 05, 2014, 08:39:35 am
What to buy for the comp - NPN, SAB, BTI?
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Post by: Fundamental on February 05, 2014, 09:08:38 am
I went for SAB - undervalued at the moment
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Post by: Moonraker on February 05, 2014, 09:35:40 am
@Fundamental - see my 'dead in the water' post.
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Post by: Aragorn on February 05, 2014, 12:26:11 pm
Chose NPN (again)
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Post by: Orca on February 05, 2014, 01:07:16 pm
SAB "dead" because I cut down on beer consumption.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 05, 2014, 01:10:13 pm
But I didn't. Had Grolsch. Premium brand margins are higher.
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Post by: MrMafia on February 05, 2014, 02:29:36 pm
Strange @ SAB.  We supported them quite well over the weekend.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 05, 2014, 03:31:22 pm
My wife bought jewelry with my credit card, hence gold @ 1272
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Post by: Orca on February 05, 2014, 05:09:00 pm
Looks like Patrick's POY has paid off and will carry on shooting the lights out.
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Post by: aae on February 05, 2014, 06:52:19 pm
what does he know that we don,t
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Post by: Orca on February 05, 2014, 07:23:32 pm
He took advantage of the momentum. High PE but it is good to go much, much higher.
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Post by: Patrick on February 05, 2014, 10:08:47 pm
POY was one of the top shares over the last few years, like Orca says, I went with the momentum...
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Post by: jaDEB on February 06, 2014, 08:02:23 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 06, 2014, 12:24:12 pm
Hi
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 06, 2014, 12:31:26 pm
Re POY:  Nicely done, If it was me, I would lock in the profit. :)
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Post by: Patrick on February 06, 2014, 01:01:00 pm
@Moneypenny Thanks, may be unethical to sell POY as it's no longer listed in the allowed shares...
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Post by: Moonraker on February 06, 2014, 05:46:54 pm
Finally bit of backbone for SAB after flaccid for a long time. Draghi's dovish comments helped sentiment.
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Post by: Orca on February 06, 2014, 06:11:24 pm
Not quite. SAB made a bounce off support and after closing the gap.
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Post by: Orca on February 06, 2014, 06:17:53 pm
Check the chart I posted in your SAB - dead thread.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 06, 2014, 06:39:09 pm
Thanks Orca !
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Post by: aae on February 06, 2014, 08:41:03 pm
different investment strategies, investing with with momentum or investing with fundamentals
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Post by: aae on February 06, 2014, 09:04:30 pm
Patrick , do you use some share programme that advises you
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Post by: jaDEB on February 07, 2014, 08:29:46 am
Morning all
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Post by: Patrick on February 07, 2014, 08:50:33 am
Morning @aae, no just google. But considering I used the same metohod for all m purchases and only one came right, I don't recommend it!
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Post by: Orca on February 07, 2014, 06:09:31 pm
Geeze Patrick. You got a rise there. jaDEB needs viagra.
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Post by: Orca on February 08, 2014, 07:57:25 pm
Sies Orca. Pepper in your mouth.
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Post by: Snakepit on February 09, 2014, 08:07:51 pm
Talking about rising. I now throw Viagra in my petrol tank so my needle can stay at the top! Sorry it just jumped into my head as I was reading your comments.
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Post by: Orca on February 09, 2014, 09:12:04 pm
Must think of a method to inject viagra into my stocks.
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Post by: Patrick on February 10, 2014, 07:32:50 am
Morning from Kenya this time :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 10, 2014, 07:58:59 am
Morning all - from Boksburg, not as well travelled as Patrick.
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 10, 2014, 08:45:14 am
Hi there :)
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Post by: Bloodburner9000 on February 10, 2014, 09:54:53 am
CPI buy a good idea? Interm results in a month or so!
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Post by: Aragorn on February 10, 2014, 12:13:28 pm
Like your new signature Ms Moneypenny...
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 10, 2014, 01:43:01 pm
Lol, Oh well, sometimes you just have to take off the tiara and get down and dirty.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 10, 2014, 04:15:45 pm
Orca, u CML doing well ! R82 ...
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Post by: jaDEB on February 10, 2014, 05:50:08 pm
:)
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Post by: Orca on February 10, 2014, 05:52:35 pm
Ja nee. She closed at that price.
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Post by: Orca on February 10, 2014, 05:54:33 pm
Why is jaDEB smiling? Must look at the IC.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 11, 2014, 08:06:26 am
Mornin all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 11, 2014, 08:39:45 am
;)
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Post by: Moonraker on February 11, 2014, 10:40:23 am
JaDEB, pay a visit to your OCE thread :)
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on February 11, 2014, 11:18:29 am
Hi all. RBX share price is not updating Patrick?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 11, 2014, 11:37:05 am
@ Mr Bond, yip saw it ... lol
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Post by: jaDEB on February 11, 2014, 12:15:26 pm
Who is the bliksem in 2nd place ?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 11, 2014, 12:29:36 pm
DAmn, GLN had such a nice start . .    :(
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Post by: Patrick on February 11, 2014, 12:41:12 pm
@mark looks OK to me. I see the same price as the jse
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on February 11, 2014, 12:46:42 pm
Thing is it took about an hour to update though?
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Post by: mark.saved.duplessis on February 11, 2014, 01:16:42 pm
Patrck - HSP is delayed by 2 hours now. The price on the JSE updated to R37.03 2 hours ago and has not updated here?
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Post by: Patrick on February 11, 2014, 03:15:08 pm
I'm pulling the whole feed as one pull. if all the shares are late is likely on my side. if it's just a few it must be bad data from the use. Hand are tired I'm afraid...
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Post by: tgg78703 on February 11, 2014, 03:49:10 pm
I have a portfolio last and fourth, some bad buying
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Post by: tgg78703 on February 11, 2014, 04:59:37 pm
the portfolio that is now second ended 396 last year
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Post by: Orca on February 11, 2014, 05:30:18 pm
Yes tgg. Someones beating you now.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 11, 2014, 06:32:22 pm
Orca, CML @ R84 is that new High? sry if it is a silly question, do not feel like looking at another graph today
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Post by: Moonraker on February 11, 2014, 06:57:58 pm
I think it was R84.20 on 6/11/13
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Post by: Orca on February 11, 2014, 08:37:51 pm
At a new Closing high. There was a peak to 8599.
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Post by: Orca on February 11, 2014, 08:42:02 pm
That was in Nov last year.
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Post by: aae on February 11, 2014, 09:35:22 pm
what up with gold in the usa, sgl , har and gfi have gone up slightly
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Post by: aae on February 11, 2014, 09:43:55 pm
@griffin, some shares are good to buy others to keep. If the share is up and you are content with it, keep it in your portfolio, does not mean you can buy it again a year later and expect growth, but you will get an income from it
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Post by: jaDEB on February 12, 2014, 08:02:25 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 12, 2014, 08:45:52 am
Hi
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Post by: tgg78703 on February 12, 2014, 09:43:30 am
@griffin, for me bti was good to buy and keep, sgl was good to buy , but I don,t think keep for much longer
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Post by: Orca on February 12, 2014, 10:00:21 am
65% of my portfolio is in CML and that is a bit too high.
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Post by: Orca on February 12, 2014, 01:32:47 pm
New high for CML. Up over 3 % today again. Now 4.5% up and still going strong.
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Post by: Patrick on February 12, 2014, 03:44:15 pm
@orca about time. something came over me in December and I shipped my usual just but the index advice and topped up on CML
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Post by: Orca on February 12, 2014, 05:48:21 pm
I sold some at R82 in Nov and bought more MTA. Will do the same in new tax year. CML is overweight in my port.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 13, 2014, 06:39:15 am
Morning All
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Post by: jaDEB on February 13, 2014, 09:23:34 am
ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by: Orca on February 13, 2014, 09:47:06 am
What does the fear/greed clock say? Can't find it anymore.
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Post by: Aragorn on February 13, 2014, 09:50:32 am
F&G  = 33 (Fear)
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 13, 2014, 11:48:48 am
:-&
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Post by: jaDEB on February 13, 2014, 05:36:05 pm
Gold playing with the 1300 level ... nice .. nearly sold HAR today.
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Post by: Orca on February 13, 2014, 07:11:20 pm
ja nee DEB. Gold stocks have reached their 2 year downtrend line and should head down again.
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Post by: Orca on February 13, 2014, 07:32:51 pm
Posted the stolen chart under Harmony.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 14, 2014, 06:47:36 am
Morning All
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Post by: Patrick on February 14, 2014, 08:42:07 am
Great quote qriffin!
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 14, 2014, 08:55:28 am
Hallo
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Post by: jaDEB on February 14, 2014, 01:53:27 pm
@ griffin Just came out of meeting - D'oh, Gold @ 1316 .. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 14, 2014, 02:08:08 pm
lol you the man....
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Post by: Aragorn on February 14, 2014, 02:35:35 pm
@qriffin/jaDEB - Nice!!!!
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Post by: tgg78703 on February 14, 2014, 05:11:43 pm
what does that mean?,I don,t follow prices by technicals
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Post by: Orca on February 14, 2014, 05:19:39 pm
A stock or index that falls below it's 200DMA is a sell. Gold has risen above it.
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Post by: aae on February 14, 2014, 09:30:05 pm
so I must sell
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Post by: Black Gold on February 15, 2014, 03:01:43 am
gold
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Post by: Orca on February 15, 2014, 08:13:33 pm
I would sell now aae. Then stay out of gold forever. Go for equities for long term gains as gold has not recovered since the crash.
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Post by: MrMafia on February 17, 2014, 07:46:11 am
Morning all
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Post by: MrMafia on February 17, 2014, 07:47:01 am
Anyone know of a way to pull historical data of any stock into a csv, text or similar?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 08:01:49 am
Morning
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 09:19:32 am
Why is everybody afk? buying gold? if SGL hits R20 I am going to cry
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Post by: Patrick on February 17, 2014, 09:22:33 am
Morning all, so this morning I'm in the highest country in the world. Where am I?
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Post by: Aragorn on February 17, 2014, 09:27:09 am
Highest Country or country with highest Point? (Nepal?)
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Post by: Patrick on February 17, 2014, 09:31:07 am
@Aragorn, I wish!
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Post by: Aragorn on February 17, 2014, 09:31:11 am
New Zealand ranks as the highest country, and has been awarded the Cannabis Cup (according to the High Times)!
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Post by: Aragorn on February 17, 2014, 09:32:41 am
Lesotho holds the record for the world's highest minimum elevation.
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Post by: Orca on February 17, 2014, 09:33:02 am
Mexico. Everyone's on drugs there.
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Post by: Patrick on February 17, 2014, 09:47:59 am
yep, it's Lesotho. the only country in the world entirely above the 1000m mark.
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Post by: MrMafia on February 17, 2014, 09:59:37 am
Im on double figures growth again :D
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 10:39:50 am
IS Moneypenny sleeping late these day's. No Morning report . :(
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 10:41:03 am
I will be outside trowing up, SGL just went thru R20. I sold at R12  : (
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 10:51:38 am
Yes, still if I had [email protected] I would have doubled my port...
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Post by: Patrick on February 17, 2014, 10:57:54 am
Give that man a [email protected] :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 11:06:59 am
Balls, nuts, thingy's hanging below a prick...
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 17, 2014, 12:29:58 pm
@jaDeb: My dear the shrewd never sleeps, just doing things, going places. ;)  
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 12:34:13 pm
I decided that my victims screams is less annoying than the voices in my head
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 17, 2014, 12:49:00 pm
Oh my, maybe I shouldn’t speak to you anymore.  GTG
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 12:50:07 pm
Not to worry... :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 01:31:57 pm
Next big thing I assume is gold hit 1330?
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Post by: Aragorn on February 17, 2014, 01:36:52 pm
I decided that my victims screams is less annoying than the voices in my head
Did you forget your tablets jaDEB?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 01:42:09 pm
@ Aragorn, got quoted yesterday playing Guildwars 2 online. lmao .. made my day
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Post by: tgg78703 on February 17, 2014, 03:14:33 pm
and sgl brings out a nice sens
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 03:25:39 pm
yip, economically extractable gold Mineral Reserves have
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2014, 03:26:11 pm
increased by 46% to 19.73Moz
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 17, 2014, 05:16:16 pm
@tgg: put it on the SGL thread sir/mam :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 17, 2014, 05:18:29 pm
@ griff: I think Soros is spot on.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 18, 2014, 08:08:13 am
Morning all ...
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 18, 2014, 08:20:26 am
Hi
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Post by: jaDEB on February 18, 2014, 09:02:22 am
look at Bil results ... nice...
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Post by: Moonraker on February 18, 2014, 10:44:28 am
Resources: It all really depends on Chinese demand. Credit in China is being reined in. Will be interesting.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 18, 2014, 03:05:30 pm
@ Mr Bond  - China aims for around 9.5% annual growth in industrial output in 2014, the industry ministry said on Tuesday, supporting the view that Beijing may stick with its target for economic growth of 7.5% this year
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Post by: jaDEB on February 18, 2014, 06:03:39 pm
Hope not, will see what happens in US. Then check Asia with cup of coffee in morning
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Post by: Orca on February 18, 2014, 06:22:32 pm
OCE fishing in the Titanic Ocean.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 18, 2014, 06:42:05 pm
OCE is recovering slowly. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 08:02:37 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 19, 2014, 09:03:55 am
Hallo
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 10:15:22 am
 : )
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 10:48:16 am
Yes, also have been looking at ABL, they are in with Eli In January 2008, ABIL acquired Ellerine Holdings Limited
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Post by: Aragorn on February 19, 2014, 10:54:46 am
@ jaDED. Don't get confused between Ellies and Ellerines - 2 different companies
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Post by: Aragorn on February 19, 2014, 11:20:56 am
Maybe he forgot his tabs again?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 11:28:27 am
Appolgies, bit under pressure @ work. Do not have time to do proper thinking. sorry
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Post by: Aragorn on February 19, 2014, 11:30:58 am
All is forgiven jaDEB
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 11:31:35 am
Got it, Welcome to Ellies, they are next to the pharmacy where I order my tablets...pfftt
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 12:10:01 pm
Ellies - tv aerials & stuff
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 12:11:19 pm
Ellerines - tables, loans & stuff
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 12:57:24 pm
lol, thanks. Lets see who is in my industry - Pressure is Kg/cm2 569.6
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Post by: Aragorn on February 19, 2014, 01:16:43 pm
Laser tooling?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 01:31:35 pm
Pressure inside vessel
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 19, 2014, 01:43:04 pm
I know, you’re an astronaut or a submarine pilot.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 01:45:15 pm
lol, no. But my tablets do put me on highs, then on lows...
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 01:45:52 pm
It is cool, just wondering... not to worry
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Post by: Aragorn on February 19, 2014, 01:54:32 pm
Air Conditioning?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 01:57:49 pm
No - it is the pressure inside a vessel - Heat exchangers for Brazil - petrochemical plant - like Sasol.
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 19, 2014, 04:27:51 pm
Edit:   Human (me) error, no worries.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 04:59:42 pm
?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2014, 06:38:35 pm
HAR was @ R95 in March 2012 - Gold was at $1640
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Post by: jaDEB on February 20, 2014, 08:01:14 am
I wish, but no
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Post by: jaDEB on February 20, 2014, 08:07:37 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 20, 2014, 08:13:46 am
Hallo :)    @ griff: 'bout time
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 20, 2014, 08:27:47 am
Patience griff, I'm waiting for a few red days to buy in but yes, more shorts than longs open at this stage. Red days welcome here. ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 20, 2014, 09:32:07 am
Imara website - ADCOCK  - The hangman cometh
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 20, 2014, 09:47:49 am
You're talking about Joffe?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 20, 2014, 09:55:48 am
Yes, Bidvest
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Post by: jaDEB on February 20, 2014, 10:26:59 am
SGL Operating profit came in at around 4 billion rand from 3.37 billion rand, an increase of 19 percent
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Post by: Moonraker on February 20, 2014, 01:09:32 pm
@griffin: Huh ? BVT is 4½ times the size of CFR and is primarily a services company with food services playing the biggest role. More likely maybe a distribution agreement with CFR for the Adcock product line.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 20, 2014, 01:29:21 pm
@griffin: check their website, they are in anything from freight, to automotive, to household appliances, to cleaning services etc. Food services being the biggest contributor to the bottom line. The divisions are autonomous. Why not Adcock ?
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Post by: Moonraker on February 20, 2014, 01:30:50 pm
Joffe is well known for sniffing out underperforming entities and turning them around.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 20, 2014, 01:48:04 pm
@griffin: It would be presumptious for me to say that I understand why he did it, especially with the gov. clamping down re. pricing etc. We will just have to rely on his past business acumen. BVT will report ± 17% HEPS incr. shortly.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 20, 2014, 02:04:30 pm
As long as my Anti depressants does not go up in price.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 20, 2014, 04:22:30 pm
@griffin: So what, SHP,s net profit margin has been mid 3's for many years. Rather look at HEPS, Rand Hedge qualities and steady growth every year :-)
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Post by: Moonraker on February 20, 2014, 04:53:04 pm
@griffin: I own both those. BTW. BVT returned 25,43% p.a. over 5 yrs.  
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Post by: Moonraker on February 20, 2014, 05:16:28 pm
@griffin: No, that figure is per annum (incl. divs) - so way above inflation. Look it's a defensive stock, so one should not expect NPN or ADI returns and the accompaning adrenaline rush and risk. See #56 Here (http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=445017&sn=Detail&pid=71616)
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Post by: Orca on February 20, 2014, 06:05:10 pm
CML growth over 5 years is 1860% divies not re invested.
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Post by: Orca on February 20, 2014, 06:10:41 pm
If your portfolio does not perform 25% pa ave then give up and buy the Indi ETF.
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Post by: aae on February 20, 2014, 07:09:51 pm
I doubt that cml or Indi etf will get close to that this year or maybe even the next 3years
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Post by: Orca on February 20, 2014, 07:39:23 pm
Agree but will your stock picks fare any better?
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Post by: aae on February 20, 2014, 08:27:51 pm
whats your cutoff time
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Post by: aae on February 20, 2014, 08:32:00 pm
my personal portfolio is up 35 % ytd and I only made about 25% last year. but my stocks are not comfort zone stuff and change with circumstances
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Post by: jaDEB on February 21, 2014, 08:34:08 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moonraker on February 21, 2014, 01:26:23 pm
ADI -- wanted to buy yesterday, missed the boat, now up 4%+
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Post by: jaDEB on February 21, 2014, 03:25:31 pm
Gold     :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 21, 2014, 03:48:50 pm
Yip, glad I did
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Post by: jaDEB on February 21, 2014, 03:49:15 pm
GLN not doing to bad either
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Post by: jaDEB on February 21, 2014, 03:52:34 pm
Nice....good luck.
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 21, 2014, 07:49:01 pm
ffs, who stole our electricity?
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Post by: Orca on February 21, 2014, 07:53:14 pm
Miners suck big time. Leave them to jaDEB to loose his money.
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Post by: Orca on February 21, 2014, 07:56:03 pm
Moneypenny. Copper investors stole it.
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Post by: aae on February 21, 2014, 10:47:47 pm
they will have to if they want to make fees this year and pay div this year
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Post by: aae on February 21, 2014, 11:12:18 pm
Miners suck big time. Leave them to jaDEB to loose his money.

I also think that miners are not real investments and only short term opportunities, but I have made my bit on the jse  and can,t identify a suitable stock to rather diversify in, even cml or bti seem a bit expensive.

If I wanted to invest in one of then satrix type things I would not be here.

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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2014, 07:54:34 am
Morning all .... all is fine .... I am not doing to bad with HAR/GNL...ask Griffin  :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 24, 2014, 08:30:15 am
Hey
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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2014, 01:20:05 pm
Gold @ $ 1134    : )
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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2014, 01:20:33 pm
ffs .... $1334 ... drink u tablets knob
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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2014, 08:02:22 pm
Agree Orca, site is very un busy. Maybe cause the Lions played so well
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Post by: Orca on February 24, 2014, 08:34:02 pm
What is the code name for Massmart and JD Group?
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Post by: Orca on February 24, 2014, 08:45:41 pm
Got them. MSM and JDG. Both are in a down momentum.
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Post by: Orca on February 24, 2014, 08:56:00 pm
Very "un busy". Agree.
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 25, 2014, 08:15:08 am
Jip, I have a definite feeling of involuntary detachment atm, annoyed by markets creeping up slowly each day, not doing much whilst anticipating a rapid, intense slide. Being in limbo, not my thing.  So what’s your excuse? :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2014, 08:17:55 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 25, 2014, 09:04:15 am
Which message? Are we on the same forum griff? lol
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2014, 10:10:35 am
@ Griffin - I set my SL on HAR at R35
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Post by: Orca on February 25, 2014, 01:46:10 pm
If HAR closes at or below 3600 then expect a few red days.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2014, 02:36:40 pm
Cool , hope so    :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2014, 05:24:36 pm
Damn I must chill and stop posting so much...
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Post by: Patrick on February 25, 2014, 05:29:42 pm
Ah I'm in the negative again :(
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2014, 05:54:01 pm
From Yahoo finance Check out Mt. Gox, the site of what was the largest bitcoin exchange at one point, and you'll find a blank page. The site is now unavailable and the exchange appears to be on the verge of collapse.
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Post by: Orca on February 25, 2014, 07:16:59 pm
Actually, I didn't know that HAR was duel listed as I have no interest in gold miners and commodities. Don't like loosing my hard earned money.
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Post by: aae on February 25, 2014, 08:07:47 pm
neither do I so I sold all my sgl at 110% profit today. The price just got to much for comfort
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Post by: Patrick on February 25, 2014, 08:19:34 pm
nice profit there aae, how long were you holding?
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Post by: Orca on February 25, 2014, 08:21:10 pm
Oh dear. Now you have to add the gains to your other income for tax. Should have waited for tax year end.
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Post by: Orca on February 25, 2014, 08:24:27 pm
ECHO...echo. How long were you holding? Longer than 3 years? If not, deduct 40% for tax.
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Post by: aae on February 26, 2014, 06:55:47 am
My Tax circumstances dictate otherwise. One of the reasons I sold before year end
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 08:04:04 am
Morning all .. @ aae ... well done
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 26, 2014, 08:31:02 am
Hi
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 10:26:48 am
Yes
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 10:27:08 am
Got my trigger on my finger
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 10:33:02 am
The rand / Gold price is bothering me - not HAR - Rand @ R10.75
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 26, 2014, 10:37:38 am
Bulls fighting back for dear life on T40 atm, support 42 480 breached twice past hour.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 10:45:06 am
100%
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 10:45:41 am
I only have 1 share per portfolio
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 11:24:19 am
Nope, I follow bread's 1 share portfolio. thus only 1 share
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 12:01:46 pm
He is from the rich side of the family, I am from the good lookin side of the family
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2014, 01:17:58 pm
Spoke to my broker..we agreed to drop SL to R34  
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 08:57:29 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 27, 2014, 09:03:35 am
Hallo
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Post by: Patrick on February 27, 2014, 09:25:24 am
Morning all. So my absa stockbrokers account has locked me out four times in the last 2 weeks. I'm even writing down my password now, but it keeps happening...
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 09:29:16 am
What is your password? I can test it for you...lol
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 09:30:16 am
Sold HAR @ 34.21
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 27, 2014, 09:35:22 am
@Patrick: Apple had serious security breach on mobiles this week, maybe related?
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Post by: Orca on February 27, 2014, 10:54:11 am
Was that a trade jaDEB?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 10:55:52 am
Yes, sold HAR
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 11:59:35 am
Thks u 2, may HAR still go to R40 and u make lotsa moola
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Post by: Campsbay Trader on February 27, 2014, 12:00:20 pm
snakepit
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Post by: Patrick on February 27, 2014, 12:34:13 pm
@jaDEB Still holding HAR in the game though?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 12:48:44 pm
Yes...
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 01:21:47 pm
%$#$%##
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 01:56:37 pm
HAR up, Gold up ....   #@!%^##
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2014, 05:53:59 pm
No, it was my call. Not his.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 28, 2014, 08:33:53 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 28, 2014, 10:10:18 am
I got this feeling that NAS, TKG & SHF are due for a well deserved pause i.e. sideways but not up much anymore for now?
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 28, 2014, 10:11:17 am
Remember divie on T40 2day.
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Post by: Fundamental on February 28, 2014, 02:54:09 pm
Trade deficit at 17bn for Jan :(
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Post by: Orca on February 28, 2014, 05:24:18 pm
Old forum competition attracted over 90 new players since they are on Facebook and Twitter.
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Post by: Orca on February 28, 2014, 05:27:29 pm
Talking about Facebook. Why did they pay $19B for Whatsapp and I just downloaded it for free?
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 28, 2014, 05:44:57 pm
Received an invite via email this morning to join them for comp, they're scouting. ;)
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Post by: tgg78703 on February 28, 2014, 06:45:01 pm
whats Facebook and Twitter?
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Post by: Moonraker on March 01, 2014, 10:32:16 am
Crap that you need to steer clear of. Servers hacked on FB all the time.
See http://www.imagebam.com/image/0cecf8311248325
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Post by: Moonraker on March 01, 2014, 10:35:27 am
No ADI (AdaptIT) on Buy shares. Please add.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 01, 2014, 05:31:29 pm
ADI seems pretty liquid to me - with over 1,2 million traded weekly.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 03, 2014, 08:07:53 am
Morning all - need to buy something this week
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 03, 2014, 08:19:56 am
Hi
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Post by: Aragorn on March 03, 2014, 08:52:02 am
Aah!! We have more competition moolla today...What to buy? What to buy?
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Post by: Patrick on March 03, 2014, 11:09:06 am
Morning all, yep money's in. @moon, ADI should have been there, it met the minimum criterea, not sure why it wasn't but it's back.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 03, 2014, 12:04:01 pm
Thanks @Patrick. You are a star. BTW the forum over at the dark side also omitted ADI.
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Post by: Aragorn on March 03, 2014, 12:49:29 pm
@The "other" side comp = Can't pick any shares
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Post by: jaDEB on March 03, 2014, 12:54:55 pm
lmao - We are aware of problems on the Sharenet Stockpicks. We are busy attending to it.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 03, 2014, 01:45:29 pm
Arrgggg I feel violated ....  :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on March 03, 2014, 01:57:43 pm
Have not heard from Bread for long time...
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Post by: jaDEB on March 03, 2014, 01:59:07 pm
Orca u are 32nd on the Darkside (Thks Mr Bond - Nice name - Darkside)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 03, 2014, 05:15:01 pm
%^&#$* allways happens when I sell, goes up, allways
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Post by: jaDEB on March 03, 2014, 05:59:43 pm
Well said ...
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Post by: Orca on March 03, 2014, 06:26:45 pm
This is the year for Resources so my picks aint good as I don't do resources.
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Post by: Orca on March 03, 2014, 06:30:55 pm
I have religiously always only use stocks that I actually hold and cannot deviate from that.
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Post by: Patrick on March 03, 2014, 07:01:34 pm
I'm using a rather dodgy internet connection... About 2km from the west most point of africa right nowso I'm not sure if the deposit letters got to everyone. If you don't have it in an hours time please could you let me know.
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Post by: Orca on March 03, 2014, 07:33:51 pm
Got it. Thanks.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 03, 2014, 08:15:07 pm
HAR is not resources but Gold (Precious metals). BHP for example is a resource stock
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Post by: rbrink on March 03, 2014, 08:33:39 pm
vod
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 03, 2014, 10:56:22 pm
Nice report we got with the new money, make it more fun, top daily or weekly losers and gainers. We will never learn if we don,t as well. Moonraker had no shares last week why not?, I have one portfolio in the top 10  and one in the bottom 10.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 03, 2014, 10:57:16 pm
this is not an exclusive club
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Post by: footprint on March 04, 2014, 12:54:19 am
tru
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2014, 08:08:55 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 04, 2014, 08:16:36 am
Hi
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2014, 09:41:14 am
GLN  :)
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Post by: Orca on March 04, 2014, 10:24:38 am
Resources= gold & plat mining, general mining, coal, precious metals and oil, gas.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2014, 12:19:24 pm
Ukraine - President Putin ordered troops involved in a military exercise in western Russia back to base in an announcement that appeared intended to ease East-West tension over fears of war in Ukraine.
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Post by: Aragorn on March 04, 2014, 12:41:48 pm
...and so the gold price drops.....
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Post by: Orca on March 04, 2014, 05:49:46 pm
Stupid question. Why has GLN not have a PE ratio?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2014, 06:04:15 pm
GLN was only listed recently-it actualy does not even appear on my Mobi site. Did phone them Twice.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2014, 06:05:05 pm
My broker I mean (Phoned) also Reuters does not have the GNL JSE graph either. to new. wth !!
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2014, 06:22:36 pm
See "Glencore Xstrata posted forecast-beating core profit in the first set of full annual results since the commodities group was formed, helped by a strong performance from its trading arm offsetting a decline at its mining division"
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Post by: Orca on March 04, 2014, 06:24:33 pm
Now I remember. Another Q. Why are there 5 year charts for GLN?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2014, 06:29:53 pm
LOL u clever - No Idea..maybe Xstrata graph
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Post by: Orca on March 04, 2014, 07:15:39 pm
Your charts are London charts so perhaps it was listed there since the rocks were still soft.
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Post by: Aragorn on March 05, 2014, 08:42:24 am
Posted some forecasts from OST on the GLN thread FYI
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Post by: jaDEB on March 05, 2014, 08:44:03 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 05, 2014, 08:58:47 am
How's it going
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Post by: jaDEB on March 05, 2014, 09:01:36 am
Hectic morning - report will be done later sry
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Post by: jaDEB on March 05, 2014, 02:23:26 pm
Zzzz
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Post by: Orca on March 05, 2014, 04:47:21 pm
jaDEB must be heartsore. Dropped below the top 20.
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Post by: Patrick on March 05, 2014, 05:24:02 pm
My non-thinking money wasting tester account is beating me!
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Post by: jaDEB on March 05, 2014, 05:39:17 pm
54th ... magtig :'(
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Post by: Orca on March 05, 2014, 05:52:23 pm
Still very early days.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 05, 2014, 06:47:53 pm
O&J, please go away. You are steadily nearing my turf, somewhere between 70 to 250.
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Post by: Orca on March 05, 2014, 08:36:51 pm
Are you going down to see what Porn_Ster is up to at the bottom?
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 05, 2014, 08:39:48 pm
my tgg portfolio has moved up a bit from last on my shp and my aae portfolio down on gfi
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Post by: Orca on March 05, 2014, 08:43:37 pm
It is a known fact that Industrials have reached their limit and Resources have taken over.
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Post by: Orca on March 05, 2014, 08:44:41 pm
The cycle has turned after many years of the Indi being on top.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 05, 2014, 08:59:27 pm
resources still have labour and china issues. But there are no industrials worth a buy , some retailers have however become an option. the market to me remains to be on the defensive
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 05, 2014, 09:01:41 pm
What I meant to say is that I need to buy defensive
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Post by: jaDEB on March 06, 2014, 08:11:21 am
Morning
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 06, 2014, 08:22:40 am
Hallo jaDEB
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Post by: Motown Capital on March 06, 2014, 12:21:58 pm
I wonder how load shedding will affect share movements...? Will miners be affected due to the possibility of production loss? But I'm guessing most companies have generators now, after 2008.
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Post by: Orca on March 06, 2014, 12:51:13 pm
Mines and other big companies are not swiched off. They have to cut back 10% usage.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 06, 2014, 12:51:29 pm
No I think Eishkom only release it when they want an increase in their prices
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Post by: Motown Capital on March 06, 2014, 12:55:50 pm
Do you think commodity prices will be affected still, even though the mines are not switched off (international perception)?
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Post by: Hstig on March 06, 2014, 12:59:56 pm
why after selling does the ave. include previous shares sold?
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Post by: Hstig on March 06, 2014, 01:01:09 pm
Cause if I buy again, the ave price includes the price of the sold shares when calcing ave?
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Post by: Hstig on March 06, 2014, 01:02:12 pm
this is skewing my tactic of selling up and buying down, as the percentage gain is not accurate
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 06, 2014, 01:02:29 pm
Power just went off, so much for schedule, guess 1-2hrs?
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Post by: Patrick on March 06, 2014, 02:06:00 pm
@Hstig, could you give me something to base the calculations on? Shouldn't the ave buy price not be affected by sales? Anyone else know? Even so, the%gain or loss doesn't affect your standing, only your current holdings, cash on hand and tax owed do.
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Post by: Hstig on March 06, 2014, 02:12:21 pm
@Hstig, could you give me something to base the calculations on? Shouldn't the ave buy price not be affected by sales? Anyone else know? Even so, the%gain or loss doesn't affect your standing, only your current holdings, cash on hand and tax owed do.
I have just bought 1 Telkom share. According to how understand, the cost should now be R33.00 per share, as I have sold all my previous holdings, effectively rebasing my gains/losses, but on my holdings, It now shows the average price of R30.78 and 7.21% growth. This should show 0% growth and average price of R33.00, as after having sold all my holdings in Telkom, I am coming in at a new base
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Post by: Mofokeng on March 06, 2014, 02:14:22 pm
CRD
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Post by: Patrick on March 06, 2014, 02:19:10 pm
good point, now how to put that into a calculation? What if you'd only sold half... head scratch...
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Post by: Hstig on March 06, 2014, 02:23:37 pm
Selling a portion brings a weighted cost into play instead of average cost i.e
10 Telkom shares @ R30.78
Sell 3 at X price leaving 7
Purchase 3 new @ R33
then gives 3/10X R33 +7/10x R30.78 = R9.9+R21.54 = R31.44
How to keep track of which shares at which value is what I am unsure of
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Post by: Patrick on March 06, 2014, 02:39:48 pm
Maybe I should still use the sell numbers, but not the sell values when calculating averages... I'll run some trials...
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Post by: Hstig on March 06, 2014, 02:41:13 pm
Othwerwise each purchase must be kept at the purchase price seperately eg
Telkom  R30.78  gains X
Telkom  R33.00 gains y?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 06, 2014, 05:16:06 pm
I bought ABL today  (real & IC) . . hold thumbs
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Post by: jaDEB on March 06, 2014, 05:19:42 pm
Holding thumbs for u jaDEB .... good luck
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 06, 2014, 09:40:43 pm
I bought some real a while ago and a few % up, was wondering to get more
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Post by: jaDEB on March 07, 2014, 08:06:03 am
Morning almal
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 07, 2014, 08:07:29 am
Hi
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Post by: Hstig on March 07, 2014, 08:32:44 am
morning
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Post by: Patrick on March 07, 2014, 11:00:10 am
Hello. Very determined spammer this morning...
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Post by: jaDEB on March 07, 2014, 11:09:45 am
Give him the darkside's web adress .. lol
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 07, 2014, 11:37:31 am
@P: Lucky for us, so r u
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Post by: Motown Capital on March 07, 2014, 11:51:04 am
Admin, FYI: Prices not updating
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Post by: Patrick on March 07, 2014, 11:55:46 am
JSE is down... Let me see what I can do with this dodgy internet here...
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Post by: Patrick on March 07, 2014, 11:57:50 am
Ok seems fast today, prices are busy updating on the backup links. JSE says: No data available :(
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Post by: Motown Capital on March 07, 2014, 12:05:19 pm
seems to be updating now, thanks chief
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Post by: Hstig on March 07, 2014, 02:11:11 pm
Glencore X not updating Pat
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Post by: Patrick on March 07, 2014, 02:37:28 pm
GLN sorted
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Post by: Hstig on March 07, 2014, 02:44:56 pm
ta
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Post by: jaDEB on March 07, 2014, 03:44:57 pm
Why is GLN down 2% ... Patrick stoppit ...
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Post by: jaDEB on March 07, 2014, 03:56:42 pm
wow gold down to $1337
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Post by: Moonraker on March 09, 2014, 08:49:39 am
fixed broken link 'why baked beans aren't for astronauts' off topic
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Post by: jaDEB on March 10, 2014, 08:18:17 am
Morning all...
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 10, 2014, 08:27:03 am
:)
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2014, 07:55:41 pm
Goodnite. The lower we go, the less we chat.
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2014, 08:04:48 pm
Geeze man. Eight ETF's above me. What a disaster.
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2014, 08:07:50 pm
Nothing wrong to go down to see what Porn_Ster is up to at the bottom there.
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Post by: Patrick on March 10, 2014, 08:33:21 pm
Next time buy CML orca ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2014, 07:56:38 am
Morning
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 11, 2014, 08:38:16 am
:)  Shorting should be part of any investors financial strategy, making money in any market, not just bull market.
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Post by: Patrick on March 11, 2014, 08:56:52 am
maybe we allow shorting in the challenge next year ;)
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Post by: gcr on March 11, 2014, 09:33:30 am
There was an argument to split this competition into two parts - for the traders and then for the investors. Once you start trading you are no longer an investor. Shorting is a trading activity and not an investor activity. So simple next year split the competition into two parts and investors/traders can play in both spaces - just get the rules right. I know in which category I want to play but let's not deny the traders their moment of sunshine now and again :-[
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2014, 11:31:49 am
My 2c, the forum is more important, we need to exchange info / strategies and so on. Comp ppl come online once a month. The forum is gettin less busy by the day.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2014, 12:23:11 pm
R54 to R57 ..
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Post by: Hstig on March 11, 2014, 12:25:58 pm
commodities getting KO'ed today
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2014, 02:06:49 pm
SGL R25 .....  :')  .. I feel like a (.)(.) ..
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 11, 2014, 03:38:53 pm
@gcr:  Pfft, ‘moment of sunshine’ nogal.  #Basking in my ACL shorty.  >:D
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Post by: Patrick on March 11, 2014, 04:00:54 pm
Any idea why there's such a drop today MP?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2014, 04:07:07 pm
Iron ore prices dropped due to China news.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2014, 04:15:38 pm
Analysts have forecast more falls as the iron ore price fell to $US105 per tonne on Tuesday, with Citi analysts predicting an average price of $US80 in 2016
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2014, 04:29:25 pm
@ Moneypenny ... nice ... :)
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Post by: Moonraker on March 11, 2014, 04:40:53 pm
Few posts only chat. No interaction to posts. Will stop posting soon.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2014, 05:02:20 pm
That is what I said earlier..sorry will try an post
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 11, 2014, 05:05:43 pm
He-he, I'll respond to you Patrick in treads-section, don't wanna vex Moonraker more than I need to.  :D
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Post by: Orca on March 11, 2014, 07:07:49 pm
Strange. No more blackouts.
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Post by: Orca on March 11, 2014, 07:10:05 pm
Orca. It is not politically correct to call them "blackouts". You must call them "previously lit areas".
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 11, 2014, 08:45:35 pm
Resources down the tubes how far will they go, and the fall of resources is the start of things , it filters through, but it could recover
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 11, 2014, 09:14:40 pm
Will it be an issue to update the 2013 results with a current standing, just for the longer term investor
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 12, 2014, 07:50:07 am
Hi all, sort it is then.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 08:06:12 am
Morning
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 08:48:42 am
Yes, hurting for now. but workin on it...
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 09:55:06 am
Yes, hurting for now. but workin on it... have to say it twice :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 10:25:40 am
yip, saw that :( .  I hope my swop to ABL will pay off. Glad to see u making moola
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 10:34:52 am
I use black bags .... as my port is down
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 10:53:55 am
No, as with HAR, we can see what a SL does ...
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 11:38:04 am
Comp not important to me, I use it to learn.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 12, 2014, 01:19:00 pm
@griffin: if you say so mate :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 01:42:38 pm
1TM? what is happeing?
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Post by: Moonraker on March 12, 2014, 02:15:23 pm
@JaDEB chk. the Off topic
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 02:22:25 pm
@ Mr Bond check Darkside movers
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 02:23:39 pm
MoneyPenny U there?
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Post by: Moonraker on March 12, 2014, 02:34:37 pm
@JaDEB .. suspended ?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 02:48:52 pm
gold $ 1365
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 12, 2014, 03:40:39 pm
@ jdDEB: Yes?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 03:47:02 pm
@MoneyPenny ACL was up 4% now only up 2%
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 12, 2014, 04:04:51 pm
now 1.5%   Kansvatters :), wait for 16:30 to 16:50
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 04:15:14 pm
I will be outside throwing up .... gettin a frikkin hiding
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 12, 2014, 04:25:12 pm
Hiding on which share? Not sure where you're in.
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Post by: smiley on March 12, 2014, 04:41:36 pm
kio
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 04:53:12 pm
abl - down 5%, below R10
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 12, 2014, 05:02:31 pm
Will check Abl out 2morrow, if you're planning to hold for a long period, then -5% nothing. :-)
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Post by: Orca on March 12, 2014, 05:58:15 pm
Most banks have been hit lately so don't worry too much.
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Post by: Orca on March 12, 2014, 05:59:07 pm
My PNC was hit over -12% and I am not worried at all.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2014, 06:29:30 pm
Thanks for kind words .... I have to realize that buying into ABL was high risk..will take happy tabs and wait..
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Post by: Orca on March 12, 2014, 07:55:51 pm
But check my Tech Analysis posted now.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 12, 2014, 09:02:14 pm
should be a good time to buy more abl, jadeb, I,m worried about you we tend to invest in the same stuff
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 12, 2014, 09:06:16 pm
Orca, I don,t quite think you will have the same luck with PNC you had with CML, but then what  do I know, I also loose on investments
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Post by: jaDEB on March 13, 2014, 08:08:41 am
Mornin all, @tgg "we tend to invest in same stuff"  lol..
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Post by: jaDEB on March 13, 2014, 08:17:26 am
Ok, fine, going to find a bridge ..
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Post by: jaDEB on March 13, 2014, 08:25:20 am
No, if I buy gold it will go down. Then your portf goes down.. lol
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 13, 2014, 08:51:08 am
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 13, 2014, 10:13:24 am
Turning into recovery street  :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 13, 2014, 10:51:14 am
lol, check darkside comp...who is 1st?
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 13, 2014, 11:24:06 am
what competition is this?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 13, 2014, 11:26:18 am
http://www.sharenet.co.za/v3/stockpicks/index.php
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Post by: jaDEB on March 13, 2014, 11:32:49 am
No, will keep it for awhile.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 13, 2014, 06:53:45 pm
was :)

Gold shares should be a clear winner this year if the gold price holds. Even at the current price the results of gfi, har and a few other will be much better
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 13, 2014, 06:55:58 pm
my gold portfolio is giving you a run , I believe.
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Post by: Orca on March 13, 2014, 08:19:13 pm
Yeh. Thats why jaDEB's winning now and I suck.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 13, 2014, 08:23:31 pm
you talking about the other game?
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 14, 2014, 07:54:49 am
Hallo almal :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 14, 2014, 08:01:09 am
Morning all
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Post by: Aragorn on March 14, 2014, 08:46:23 am
@qriffen - Time to top up on NPN today
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 14, 2014, 09:16:47 am
R80 discount per share on Naspers so far today.
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Post by: Orca on March 14, 2014, 10:04:22 am
Looks like this is the best level to buy. Opened lower than that gap I was aiming for.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 14, 2014, 10:19:14 am
Griffin u chop, u just passed me on the DarkSide .. :'(
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Post by: Orca on March 14, 2014, 10:20:50 am
Sorry, negate that as technicals show the ALSI in a downside bias for the next 2 weeks.
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Post by: Orca on March 14, 2014, 10:33:33 am
Yes q. This month is bad for me but I am waaay ahead in the neverending league comp.
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Post by: Hstig on March 14, 2014, 11:48:44 am
sjo, chinese data really hurt me. Morning all
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Post by: Moonraker on March 14, 2014, 02:03:00 pm
Crimea poll to split from Ukraine is on Sunday. Hell's Bells
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Post by: Moonraker on March 14, 2014, 02:21:02 pm
@forward curve. Agree with all your posts.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 14, 2014, 02:28:16 pm
NPN. Mail.ru = Russia..Pasop vir the sanctions that may be imposed by the 'evil' West.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 14, 2014, 03:35:10 pm
Stoppit, u making me cry ....
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Post by: jaDEB on March 14, 2014, 03:37:32 pm
bammm thru it ....
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Post by: aae on March 14, 2014, 04:06:10 pm
nice going griffin
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 16, 2014, 05:48:09 pm
weekends are so boring, when it comes to financial markets
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Post by: jaDEB on March 17, 2014, 07:49:06 am
Morning
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Post by: Nios on March 17, 2014, 07:53:51 am
@qriffin, whats driving the upswing of HAR?
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 17, 2014, 07:57:15 am
Hi
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 17, 2014, 08:02:16 am
 @griff:  Nice to see you’ve overcome your initial shyness. lol. Congrats on being numero uno on both.
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Post by: Hstig on March 17, 2014, 10:14:57 am
Morning all, seems the share data is not updating?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 17, 2014, 11:07:05 am
Griffin, on the Darkside I is  creepin you from behind, ...be afraid, be very afraid
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Post by: jaDEB on March 17, 2014, 12:08:44 pm
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 17, 2014, 05:43:34 pm
Gotha ..... :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 18, 2014, 07:55:40 am
Morning all
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Post by: Hstig on March 18, 2014, 08:06:07 am
morning, pricing still lagging it seems.
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 18, 2014, 08:43:23 am
Hallo to all the happy-chappies out there :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 18, 2014, 09:25:41 am
Where is Orca?
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Post by: Patrick on March 18, 2014, 09:48:53 am
Morning... So in the past two days the game's holdings of NPN went from R2.6m+ to R2.35m... Ouch! It's still the biggest holding in the game though, followed by CML at R1.7m
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Post by: Aragorn on March 18, 2014, 09:55:03 am
NPN - was in top 10 in the comp, now not even in top 100.
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Post by: Orca on March 18, 2014, 10:08:02 am
Busy jaDEB. Got 2 months left and so much to organize.
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 18, 2014, 03:27:32 pm
Happy to close all shorts considering we have FOMC Statement tomorrow @20:00.  Markets always have ‘irrational good-news’-expectation beforehand.  Will most likely short again after the fact.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 19, 2014, 07:59:28 am
Morning
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Post by: Icarium on March 19, 2014, 08:09:54 am
I monday I was 200th, this morning I'm 13th. Colour me surprised...
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Post by: Aragorn on March 19, 2014, 08:28:33 am
@Icarium - Nice move on JD Group - up 30%. But will it hold?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 19, 2014, 08:29:47 am
Yes, offer was made for JD Group by Steinhoff
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 19, 2014, 08:44:55 am
Hi
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Post by: jaDEB on March 19, 2014, 11:40:41 am
Arrgggg frikkin lovely ..  :(
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Post by: Patrick on March 19, 2014, 01:22:43 pm
What's up jaDEB?
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 19, 2014, 01:33:02 pm
must be GLN/OCE/HAR or he forgot his pills again.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 19, 2014, 01:56:48 pm
Frikkin all of it and ABL   :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on March 19, 2014, 04:54:11 pm
Taken leave tomorrow, will be online but gaming.  :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 19, 2014, 05:00:16 pm
Yeah, you slay that dragon before breakfast jaDEB!  Enjoy.
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Post by: SiyaR on March 20, 2014, 10:22:45 am
93 ;(
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Post by: Orca on March 20, 2014, 10:35:43 am
Why is qriffin so quiet now?
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Post by: aae on March 20, 2014, 06:26:59 pm
So griffin, today was Gfi and not Har,s day
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Post by: aae on March 20, 2014, 06:43:39 pm
what was the issue with gfi today, much more than the daily average and one massive bounce in the afternoon closing auction
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Post by: Orca on March 20, 2014, 07:26:45 pm
Har har har. The lowest expected performer in it's sector.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 24, 2014, 08:09:03 am
Morning all
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Post by: AdriaanG on March 24, 2014, 08:16:37 am
Top of the morning to all
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 24, 2014, 08:57:02 am
Hallo
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Post by: jaDEB on March 24, 2014, 01:51:39 pm
Griffin ? u there ?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 24, 2014, 03:15:28 pm
How do u clean silver coin ?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 24, 2014, 03:20:08 pm
raw potato cut in half and rub the coin with it
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Post by: jaDEB on March 24, 2014, 03:30:35 pm
Try a light soaking in lemon juice, if there is encrustation which is a little stubborn.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 24, 2014, 03:31:10 pm
Thanks jaDEB
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Post by: Orca on March 24, 2014, 06:23:49 pm
You guys not posting is making jaDEB act weird.
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Post by: Orca on March 24, 2014, 06:25:28 pm
His stocks are not performing so now trying to sell his old silver coins.
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Post by: Patrick on March 24, 2014, 07:29:51 pm
I'm on leave from tomorrow! Still at work now though :(
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Post by: jaDEB on March 25, 2014, 07:50:31 am
lol morning, thanks for making me smile :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 25, 2014, 08:31:40 am
@ jaDEB: You were all by your onesies yesterday? @ Patrick: Enjoy
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Post by: Aragorn on March 25, 2014, 12:34:32 pm
PNC being hammered - check SENS
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Post by: AdriaanG on March 25, 2014, 12:38:31 pm
PNC - What brought this on - Luckily i cashed it all in this moning - phew!
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Post by: Moonraker on March 25, 2014, 12:42:50 pm
JOHANNESBURG - An executive director of South African technology firm Pinnacle Holdings allegedly offered a R5 million ($460,400)bribe to a senior police official in order to win a contract for his company, police said on Tuesday.
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Post by: AdriaanG on March 25, 2014, 12:53:19 pm
Thanks Moonraker.\
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Post by: jaDEB on March 25, 2014, 02:49:50 pm
Orca u got PNC ?
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Post by: Bloodburner9000 on March 25, 2014, 04:29:37 pm
Absolutely no coincidence that the Executive director sold  R 4 000 120 worth of shares yesterday :whistle: ! See http://data.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb/sharedata/scripts/sens.asp?id=229450 (http://data.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb/sharedata/scripts/sens.asp?id=229450)
Blerrie korrup!!
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Post by: Orca on March 25, 2014, 05:50:31 pm
Had no internet today and now see this PNC thing. Would have sold asap but now perhaps too late as it will drop at open big time as more investors get the news.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 25, 2014, 05:54:23 pm
Could be a good time to buy, people over react, So far I do not see much news that will affect the company, only a director, unless they did get the contract and it was substantial
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Post by: jaDEB on March 25, 2014, 05:59:52 pm
Bought PNC for Comp today :) .. good luck Orca, I see other Director also sold R23 M. shares
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Post by: jaDEB on March 26, 2014, 07:52:27 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 26, 2014, 08:04:56 am
;)
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Post by: Orca on March 26, 2014, 10:03:28 am
:(
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Post by: Shi on March 26, 2014, 11:19:03 am
Went from 14th to 249 mainly because of PNC :-(
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Post by: Patrick on March 26, 2014, 04:51:38 pm
@Shi they also dragged me down, bought just 2 weeks ago!
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Post by: jaDEB on March 26, 2014, 05:52:11 pm
Gold 1304 ...  
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Post by: jaDEB on March 26, 2014, 05:52:44 pm
sry wtf happened there ? sry Patrck..
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 26, 2014, 06:59:28 pm
Is griffins post frequency related to his position in the game or is he on leave in a place with no comms
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 26, 2014, 07:03:56 pm
Ek se Patrick, how about an advance on next months cash, I,m think pnc might recover and it took me for an ape, need to get my cost down
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Post by: Orca on March 26, 2014, 07:31:00 pm
I think he is upset by everybody calling him Griffin. He is Qriffin but I know him a Griffin so will keep to that.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 26, 2014, 08:54:45 pm
nice point you have, was he pui when he missed the u or is he a differenet nationality
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Post by: jaDEB on March 27, 2014, 07:58:05 am
Morning all, I am also wondering where is Griffin
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 27, 2014, 07:59:59 am
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 27, 2014, 10:20:18 am
Gold below 1300 :'(
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on March 27, 2014, 12:14:08 pm
Let me buy Gold now....this is a good opportunity for me :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 27, 2014, 12:30:09 pm
Agree
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Post by: Patrick on March 27, 2014, 04:28:45 pm
nice bounce by PNC today. a couple of people bought it for the challenge yesterday
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Post by: jaDEB on March 27, 2014, 04:29:09 pm
Zzzzzzzzzz
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 27, 2014, 05:01:31 pm
I bought a few real ones early this morning
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Post by: Orca on March 27, 2014, 05:24:30 pm
Glad I held on today in my real port. Had a sell that I cancelled.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 27, 2014, 05:26:57 pm
@ tgg & Orca -- Nice
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Post by: Orca on March 27, 2014, 05:33:36 pm
Thought this could be a dead cat bounce but see large buyers still lined up.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 28, 2014, 08:02:47 am
More almal
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 28, 2014, 08:42:29 am
More jaDEB, :) wat sê jy vandag?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 28, 2014, 10:45:25 am
")
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Post by: jaDEB on March 28, 2014, 10:45:33 am
:)
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Post by: Aragorn on March 28, 2014, 12:17:18 pm
PNC - I note Fourie just bought a bunch of shares. cR2 mil
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Post by: jaDEB on March 28, 2014, 01:25:02 pm
So he made awesome money selling, now he going to coin it buying so low. I think it is unfair ....
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 28, 2014, 01:35:54 pm
I note that faizaan timed his pnc buy very well
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Post by: franz on March 28, 2014, 03:05:22 pm
Fourie bought another 1 000 000 shares- 13.5 mil
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Post by: Orca on March 28, 2014, 03:12:15 pm
Total bought is R18.8M. Pacifying the investors perhaps.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 28, 2014, 04:10:10 pm
I don,t see someone put so much money on the line if there is shit just to pacify investors
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Post by: Icarium on March 28, 2014, 04:22:19 pm
Pietsparkplug seems to have found a few bugs in the challenge...
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Post by: Orca on March 28, 2014, 05:44:47 pm
Suppose so tgg. Perhaps he knows more than we do like the charges won't stick.
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Post by: Motown Capital on March 28, 2014, 06:07:27 pm
I don't understand how he's done it... with only 1.14% growth? Or has he made his profits elsewhere and sold?
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Post by: Patrick on March 30, 2014, 02:50:49 am
I'm stumped too. Anyone have an idea how the money was made?
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Post by: Patrick on March 30, 2014, 02:55:09 am
OK I think I have it. Looks like his last purchase duplicated for some reason. I'll have to delete one of the records. Seems to have been a system error rather than cheating.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 30, 2014, 08:35:38 am
Yip, saw it was done twice.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 30, 2014, 08:52:39 am
Wonder where is Griffin ?
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Post by: Patrick on March 31, 2014, 03:32:42 am
Ok fixed pitspark but it's still not right. Can't figure out why it's off, but it's off. Likely I'll have to reduce the number of LHC shares he has. Anyone care to do the calc to work out what the total should be?
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Post by: Pietsparkplug on March 31, 2014, 07:49:23 am
Hi guys!! This was a system error and wasn't done on purpose so would appreciate it if you can fix it for me!!
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Post by: AdriaanG on March 31, 2014, 08:06:43 am
I call for his head to roll!
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Post by: jaDEB on March 31, 2014, 08:10:30 am
Morning all
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Post by: AdriaanG on March 31, 2014, 08:19:34 am
It starts with a honest little mistake, what is next? Let's fine him. 25% of all Net profit for a quarter to be paid over to the Red Cross Society.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 31, 2014, 08:38:20 am
lol . I agree, but I think the top 254 players should be fined by 50% of their holding..that sounds like an idea.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 31, 2014, 02:31:11 pm
OCE : - )
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Post by: jaDEB on March 31, 2014, 04:23:40 pm
Frikkin talkin to myself again, where is my frikkin tablets ...   :(
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 31, 2014, 05:03:02 pm
pitsparklplugs sales and purchases don,t add up to enough profit for the purchase of R341.741.32 of lhc

 have I got a calculation error
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Post by: Orca on March 31, 2014, 06:32:46 pm
I want my new money now. Wanna buy NPN while it is down.
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Post by: Orca on March 31, 2014, 06:45:06 pm
Why is CML shown as 9815 after 2 hours and the price is 9900?
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 31, 2014, 07:30:28 pm
already corrected for tomorrow
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 31, 2014, 07:33:07 pm
When is faizaan going to admit to whom he actually is, to join a game and buy pnc at that stage means you are a current player.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 31, 2014, 07:34:13 pm
jaDEB?
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Post by: Orca on March 31, 2014, 08:06:36 pm
Can you explain that in English please.
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Post by: tgg78703 on March 31, 2014, 08:16:59 pm
Can you explain that in English please.

what am i to explain Dear Sir
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Post by: jaDEB on April 01, 2014, 08:59:51 am
Nope not me, I is only jaDEB. it is hard for me to remember my name, nevermind 2 names.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 01, 2014, 09:00:01 am
Nope not me, I is only jaDEB. it is hard for me to remember my name, nevermind 2 names.
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Post by: MulaShare on April 01, 2014, 11:22:56 am
KUMBA
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 01, 2014, 11:44:56 am
qriffin must be busy researching for a share to take the lead again
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Post by: gcr on April 01, 2014, 12:26:15 pm
Wasn't sure where to post this, but have spent the last 15 days in Cape Town and the surrounds. Was based at Helderberg Village in Somerset West and was moving my parents from there to a frail care operation in Pinelands so drove extensively around towns and through all the suburbs around Pinelands, went through to the CBD but via back roads and I must say it was an absolute pleasure to drive on the roads in and around the suburbs - no pot holes. The only places where I say signs of pot holes seemed to be around Claremont on the lower side near the railway lines and where there was high taxi usage. Came back last night to an absolute nightmare of a road from Lanseria to my place in Randparkridge. These jokers in charge of Joburg have no concept of maintenance and repairs to the road system or to service delivery. Maybe the city councillors needs to change their slogan for something more appropriate and on the lines "Joburg an African city in distress"
Thought I would just share my experiences with forumites. Would I move to CT - definitely not - Gauteng has the best climate possible 8)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 01, 2014, 12:47:24 pm
They did say it is all the rain, and they will be working on it (Potholes) let see if it happens.
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Post by: gcr on April 01, 2014, 01:25:09 pm
They did say it is all the rain, and they will be working on it (Potholes) let see if it happens.
The pot holes were numerous before the rains - the rain merely worsened the situation >:(
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Post by: Orca on April 01, 2014, 02:53:44 pm
We have better climate due to the proximity of the cool sea. Hardly ever below 8 or above 32.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 01, 2014, 03:29:33 pm
CML above R100 ... nice Orca....
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Post by: gcr on April 01, 2014, 03:46:07 pm
We have better climate due to the proximity of the cool sea. Hardly ever below 8 or above 32.
Well you must live in a favoured neck of CT because it rained for 2 days out Somerset West last week Wednesday and Thursday and not much better in Pinelands, Rondebosch, Claremont, Maitland, Woodstock, Strand and others
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Post by: Orca on April 01, 2014, 05:28:34 pm
Yes. CML shot through the 100 resistance. Trading Statement soon I hope. Will see 110 at month end.
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Post by: Orca on April 01, 2014, 05:30:16 pm
It's great to have an occasional summer shower in Cape Town.
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 01, 2014, 06:57:57 pm
you are moving up the ladder nicely
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Post by: Orca on April 01, 2014, 08:08:41 pm
Yes. I am booking my flight to Portugal on the 28 May thanks to CML. Will post from there.
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 01, 2014, 09:14:38 pm
Enjoy it
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 01, 2014, 09:17:29 pm
 ;)
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Post by: AdriaanG on April 02, 2014, 07:53:05 am
PITSPARK still way up there on the leaderboard. Can we not ask him to re-register?
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Post by: jaDEB on April 02, 2014, 08:58:25 am
Morning all
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Post by: Patrick on April 02, 2014, 01:45:39 pm
I'll adjust Piet soon. I'm just in the pilansberg and have little to no internet access.
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Post by: AdriaanG on April 02, 2014, 03:28:45 pm
Thanks Patrick, have a good one!
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Post by: jaDEB on April 02, 2014, 04:33:09 pm
Patrick put some dancing girls on web, the site has been very quiet
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 02, 2014, 07:21:55 pm
i,m 23 and 27 with 2 very different portfolio,s and not one has cml. ;D
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Post by: jaDEB on April 03, 2014, 07:57:16 am
Watched wolf of wall street last night ... shares & drugs ...  :)
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 03, 2014, 11:33:57 am
whats with purchases getting duplicated, FransH as well
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 03, 2014, 12:32:03 pm
On holiday but just had to check in on shorties, whoo-hoo! Don’t you just love it when your shorts behave despicable in all-time high markets?  Talking to you my two Super-M’s: Mittal & Masmart :)
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Post by: Icarium on April 03, 2014, 01:19:15 pm
Some days this game makes me think I actually know what I'm doing. And then I slap myself awake.
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Post by: Orca on April 03, 2014, 06:37:13 pm
Join the club mate. The markets are also members.
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 03, 2014, 09:23:40 pm
took a bit of a bashing today, or was it a slight pullback
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Post by: jaDEB on April 04, 2014, 02:43:17 pm
Gold :)
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Post by: Orca on April 04, 2014, 04:00:06 pm
Hope the NFP results are not too good.
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 04, 2014, 05:10:28 pm
-_-
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 04, 2014, 08:56:17 pm
seems you might as well close the site down, total lack of interest or any meaningfull discussion.
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Post by: tgg78703 on April 04, 2014, 08:59:00 pm
some persons are just to important and know everything about investing but need to work abit on social interaction skills. Even though their portfolio is not a factor,I will get get back to my biking chatters, they has personality
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 04, 2014, 09:05:24 pm
Geez tgg, why so mad, talk to me, I'm here :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 07, 2014, 07:40:37 am
Morning all -
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Post by: Patrick on April 07, 2014, 08:17:57 am
Hello everyone, back in my own office for the first time in months...
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 07, 2014, 08:33:32 am
:)
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 07, 2014, 09:23:54 am
NPN -4.68%
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 07, 2014, 09:25:57 am
Most traded (all neg) NPN, SOL, SHP, KIO
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 07, 2014, 09:28:12 am
Top movers up: Afr Bank, Afr Rainbow, HAR, MSM,
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Post by: Patrick on April 07, 2014, 09:37:58 am
Somebody bought 137 RMBMID's for 750 instead of the going rate 617 shooting it to the top of the leaderboard!
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Post by: jaDEB on April 07, 2014, 09:39:08 am
@mnpny - ABL also high volumes traded over 4mil
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 07, 2014, 09:56:45 am
Europe markets and US futures on session lows and still going down atm, seems local markets moving more positive, lol.
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 07, 2014, 01:27:12 pm
US futures Dow -0.32%, S&P -0.41%, Nas -0.76% opening in 2hrs
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Post by: Moonraker on April 08, 2014, 03:16:49 pm
Mondi suffering due to Ukraine bad situation.
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 08, 2014, 05:58:34 pm
US up +0.16%,+0.24% +0.56%
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Post by: jaDEB on April 09, 2014, 07:26:49 am
Morning all
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Post by: bw on April 09, 2014, 10:39:40 am
accentuate
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Post by: jaDEB on April 09, 2014, 11:01:16 am
Orca, u CML statement?  please give us your input
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Post by: Orca on April 09, 2014, 03:06:58 pm
Ok. In the CML thread.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 09, 2014, 04:37:13 pm
Thks Orca.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 10, 2014, 09:19:11 am
Hey griffin, gold :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 10, 2014, 09:38:35 am
Rant is getting strong   ....   :'(
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Post by: Orca on April 10, 2014, 11:42:21 am
So is the rand. Will be buying 3 airline tickets in Euro tomorrow.
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Post by: Moonraker on April 10, 2014, 02:42:09 pm
Jobless claims decreased by 32,000 to 300,000 in the week ended April 5, the lowest since May 2007, a Labor Department report showed today in Washington. The figure was lower than the most optimistic forecast in a Bloomberg survey of 52 economists.
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Post by: Moonraker on April 10, 2014, 02:44:07 pm
Runt may weaken slightly as a result.
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Post by: Orca on April 10, 2014, 05:06:03 pm
Ha ha ha. jaDEB's Ranting and Moon's Runting.
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 10, 2014, 07:00:18 pm
Here we go again, Nasdaq -2,34%, Dow minus triple digits.
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Post by: Orca on April 10, 2014, 07:11:54 pm
Oh shoot. That's a massive drop and we will follow tomorrow.
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Post by: Orca on April 10, 2014, 07:13:04 pm
I see it's mostly Tech stocks. Poor PNC.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 11, 2014, 08:51:57 am
ABL hit R11 yest. Hopefully it can weather the opening storm.... :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 11, 2014, 02:57:36 pm
Futures: Nas -0.7, S&P -0.5, Dow -0.5% Opening in 32 min
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Post by: Snakepit on April 12, 2014, 04:42:01 pm
This feels like dangerous times. A global reset of all the indicators is required before mind blowing new heights can be achieved again. But I have seen us reach new heights on minimum volume. So don't take my word for it. Just have those stops in place.
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Post by: Snakepit on April 12, 2014, 04:47:50 pm
Dow drop targets:
15545
15350
14737
14220
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 14, 2014, 09:07:44 am
Europe opens DAX -0.8%, FTSE -0.5%, CAC -0.4%
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Post by: Moonraker on April 14, 2014, 03:49:24 pm
Is the Leaderboard updating ? Prices here have not changed since Friday.
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Post by: gcr on April 14, 2014, 04:22:13 pm
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Post by: gcr on April 14, 2014, 04:23:23 pm
I see my portfolio value has remained at such a level that I have been in 83 place pretty much the entire day - are the portfolios updating
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Post by: Luna on April 14, 2014, 04:37:50 pm
Yeah, I'm at the same position as well... nothing changed since this morning.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 14, 2014, 05:02:08 pm
SGL - R27 I is crying like a baby ... :'(
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Post by: Orca on April 14, 2014, 07:18:20 pm
Lately I can only post after hours as I am so busy with emigration stuff. After hours stuff don't get read as they don't show "Today" but comments for my CML techs will be welcome.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 15, 2014, 02:54:26 pm
Gold is tanking .....
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Post by: Orca on April 15, 2014, 06:11:26 pm
The CML technicals have failed due to market sentiment.So far so good though. Nearing the BB lower. :)
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Post by: attuu on April 15, 2014, 09:13:02 pm
Negative p/e ratio
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Post by: Patrick on April 16, 2014, 09:05:13 am
Can someone remind me what the share code was for barclays group africa before they became BGA?
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 16, 2014, 10:09:56 am
ASA - Absa
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Post by: Bloodburner9000 on April 16, 2014, 10:20:36 am
Just a note Patrick, as I am sure you are working on BGA/ASA : the current price is zero as reported on my holdings. Got a minor heart attack when I saw missing amount from portfolio!
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Post by: Patrick on April 16, 2014, 10:36:56 am
Haha yeah I'm trying to sort out a replacement for the old JSE link. The new website doesn't have a page with all the price updates and for some reason google doesn't have an option for BGA. The other backup should recover it soon.
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Post by: Patrick on April 16, 2014, 01:29:23 pm
Ok all shares should now be updating. Bloomberg picked up where the JSE dropped the ball!
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Post by: jaDEB on April 16, 2014, 06:18:45 pm
I see I is talking to myself again.....
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 16, 2014, 06:35:17 pm
I know, I hate it when I see: ‘Latest post: Moneypenny’, blah, blah, Moneypenny, blah, blah, Moneypennny, blah,blah,blah. I make myself sick at this stage. Would be really nice to read something else. Anything else. :(
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 16, 2014, 06:45:31 pm
Fark this.
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Post by: Nivek on April 16, 2014, 06:54:35 pm
I've been quiet lately. I made some very bad calls recently so I'm not ready to advise.
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Post by: Orca on April 16, 2014, 07:01:02 pm
No MP. Stay here. We read your posts.
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Post by: Orca on April 16, 2014, 07:02:22 pm
At this stage, I can only post after close as I have too much to do.
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Post by: Patrick on April 16, 2014, 09:53:44 pm
I follow your posts daily MP. suppose I should write more. not sure if you know this but the today's outlook these has 22000 views. by far the highest on this forum. you definitely have an audience!
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 17, 2014, 08:50:18 am
Okay munchkins, I get it, write, don’t’ read.  (@P: 21’ views, that’s me posting :-P)  Anyway.
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Post by: Icarium on April 17, 2014, 10:11:48 am
Silly taxes knicking me down from potential 4th to 12th :(
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Post by: Patrick on April 17, 2014, 10:32:55 am
@Icarium it'd happen in real life too! Your profit is quite impressive. I was hoping we'd see more of the traders high up in the competition. A lot of people seem to talk about how they make it big, but I'd love to see the proof!
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 17, 2014, 10:59:16 am
Say what? You’ll be inane to try and ‘trade’ equities. You invest (> 3 yrs) in equities, you trade CFD’s.  They are geared, a little movement on underlying share up or down results in huge profit/loss.
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Post by: Patrick on April 17, 2014, 11:10:59 am
True MP... Just curious, how complicated are the systems behind CFDs? Do you think there's be people interested in a CFD style challenge?
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Post by: Icarium on April 17, 2014, 11:16:13 am
@MP - My real life strategy is paying off my bond. This is just for fun! (And educational)
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 17, 2014, 11:27:38 am
@IC: This is a good place to learn :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 17, 2014, 11:28:59 am
@P:  Not complicated, but you would need live prices imo, delayed won't work.
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Post by: Patrick on April 17, 2014, 11:38:59 am
Thanks MP. @Icarium, I actually initially took money out of my bond to buy some STXIND. Last year that paid off very well, this year I'm down on that by a few %, but it's still early days... Overall it was a huge plus for me.
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 17, 2014, 12:07:43 pm
@P:  To see real time CFD’s in action, go to www.ig.com, click right bottom and open free demo acc (2 weeks) with R100 000 playmoney. Open contracts long/short on Alsi, T40 & companies and you will see money move at lightning speeds, serious profits/loss in no time.
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Post by: Snakepit on April 18, 2014, 10:47:38 am
My 2 cents - You can put a stop loss on CFD's and most probably on shares also. To me the biggest real "loss" is the tax implications. Although you can write your losses off against your profits. So I'm in two minds about that. The one massive component when trading derivatives like cfd's, you must be an active trader and not a passive trader. You have to monitor it all day like the traders that work for the big companies do. You can't buy and walk away.

When you start trading cfd's or any other geared instrument, that becomes your day job. It is crucial that you understand that. Prepare yourself to sit in front of the screen for 8 hours straight. I can warn you. It is emotional draining. You will reach a stage where you think that the time spend in front of the screen is crazy, although you are making money. I have seen guys that make big profits, and I mean big profits, walk away. Your work (trading) life balance goes right out the window. Most traders nail it down to say 4 hours per day and then they walk away.

Working in a nuclear silo, is nothing compared to trading with derivatives :wall:
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Post by: jaDEB on April 22, 2014, 08:42:55 am
Morning all
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Post by: MrMafia on April 22, 2014, 08:57:19 am
From 2nd place to 108th.  :(  
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Post by: giggsie on April 22, 2014, 09:02:52 am
From 168th to 23rd.... but i have just been Lucky :)
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Post by: Patrick on April 22, 2014, 09:16:46 am
Morning everyone. Hope you all had a great easter weekend.
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Post by: Icarium on April 22, 2014, 10:29:44 am
Go go 0.02% for 10%...!
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Post by: jaDEB on April 22, 2014, 11:04:44 am
ABL clapped the R11 level... :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 23, 2014, 08:12:01 am
Morning
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 23, 2014, 09:06:54 am
:)
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 23, 2014, 09:23:44 am
JSE Trading delayed by technical issue
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 23, 2014, 09:45:04 am
Resolved, market opening auction @ 9:45, normal trading starting @ 10:00
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Post by: jaDEB on April 23, 2014, 11:48:47 am
ABL   :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 23, 2014, 06:36:30 pm
ABL :) x 2 . :) :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 24, 2014, 10:36:20 am
$#@ &## *() (.)
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Post by: Orca on April 24, 2014, 02:22:17 pm
CML making another attempt at 100.00
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Post by: Patrick on April 24, 2014, 02:51:34 pm
Go CML!
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Post by: jaDEB on April 24, 2014, 02:55:09 pm
Hey, back down, it is my turn ----- ABL
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Post by: Patrick on April 24, 2014, 10:15:25 pm
Phew, what a day. As you might have realised the server almost completely crashed! Looked like another attack on one of my other sites...
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Post by: Neil on April 25, 2014, 09:22:25 pm
Patrick, from where do you get your JSE share data? do you use an API of some sort? scrape it from somewhere? Parse the Html code on a webpage?

Phew, what a day. As you might have realised the server almost completely crashed! Looked like another attack on one of my other sites...

Must have been a DOS attack via a botnet
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Post by: Patrick on April 26, 2014, 06:11:04 pm
I used to scrape it from the JSE, but with the website update they took down that page. Now I get it via json from Bloomberg. Why do you ask?
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Post by: Neil on April 27, 2014, 09:18:36 am
I used to scrape it from the JSE, but with the website update they took down that page. Now I get it via json from Bloomberg. Why do you ask?

Im currently writing a Trading/Investment bot for the NASDAQ in C#, and I would like to integrate the JSE exchange into it as an additional exchange but mainly for testing purposes.

Its an experimental program of mine, the part of getting my data for the NASDAQ is almost finished, then ill start writing the AI side
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Post by: Chadb on April 29, 2014, 10:18:22 am
mass mart
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Post by: jaDEB on April 29, 2014, 11:18:01 am
PNC down 8%
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Post by: Patrick on April 29, 2014, 12:14:39 pm
That's quite a drop, I didn't see any news release?
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Post by: jaDEB on April 29, 2014, 12:18:15 pm
Yip, insider trading being investigated See dark side
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Post by: Shi on April 29, 2014, 12:41:08 pm
Patrick, what's happens with the AQP rights offer?

On PNC, there was a Sunday Times article that gave more details on the charges, and from the off, the director looks guilty.
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Post by: Patrick on April 29, 2014, 12:57:21 pm
What we did last year was force the rights offers to be taken. I think it only happened once though. I'll likely do the same this year again. When does it happen?
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Post by: Shi on April 29, 2014, 01:03:47 pm
On AQPN ... sold by 6th May or exercised by 12th May

Thanx Patrick
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Post by: Orca on April 29, 2014, 05:49:52 pm
I can't sell my PNC until I leave. SARS has blocked my account.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 29, 2014, 06:49:30 pm
U have PNC? damn I forgot.... sorry...
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Post by: Orca on April 29, 2014, 07:09:19 pm
Yes but only had about R300K in it so not too worried.
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Post by: Orca on April 29, 2014, 07:12:00 pm
It is now R198K
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Post by: jaDEB on April 29, 2014, 07:20:34 pm
What did u buy it at?
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Post by: Orca on April 30, 2014, 02:28:07 pm
1533
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Post by: jaDEB on April 30, 2014, 02:36:59 pm
Cool, that is what I am going to sell my ABL
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Post by: Patrick on May 01, 2014, 12:15:22 pm
Everyone enjoying a day off but me... At least there was no traffic!
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Post by: Moonraker on May 01, 2014, 05:37:36 pm
JSE open on election day ?
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Post by: Shi on May 01, 2014, 08:47:32 pm
JSE open on election day ?

Nope ... day has been declared as a public holiday so same applies here.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 02, 2014, 09:30:07 am
abl --- (.)  --  Noooooooo !!!!
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Post by: jaDEB on May 02, 2014, 10:43:45 am
Sold ABL
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Post by: Bloodburner9000 on May 02, 2014, 11:15:47 am
Sold all holding of ABL - no ways this can turn out good now.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 02, 2014, 11:32:23 am
Also did that ... sold all. Small profit
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Post by: Moonraker on May 02, 2014, 12:09:23 pm
ADI price on Leaderbrd. incorrect - too high.
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Post by: Patrick on May 02, 2014, 12:22:04 pm
I'll check on it
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Post by: Moonraker on May 02, 2014, 01:58:56 pm
Thanks Patrick
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Post by: Patrick on May 05, 2014, 09:19:11 am
Morning all
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Post by: jaDEB on May 05, 2014, 09:19:48 am
Morning
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 05, 2014, 09:24:10 am
;)
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Post by: Icarium on May 05, 2014, 12:12:05 pm
Current leader's holdings are showing a loss. Leaderboard bugged?
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Post by: Patrick on May 05, 2014, 12:48:05 pm
Icarium can you show me a screenshot. Looks ok on my end.
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Post by: Icarium on May 06, 2014, 07:43:57 am
It was showing Bullish Bear as the leader for me, but not anymore.
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Post by: Orca on May 06, 2014, 01:09:34 pm
Just left JHB for Cape Town on the Shosholoza train. Great experiance with good food and service.  :)
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Post by: Patrick on May 06, 2014, 03:30:51 pm
let me know how it goes. I've been wanting to take my son on that for a while now.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 06, 2014, 04:06:57 pm
CML doing nice again
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 06, 2014, 04:26:53 pm
One of the few ones making it today.
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Post by: Orca on May 06, 2014, 05:05:25 pm
Financial results out next week for CML.
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Post by: Orca on May 07, 2014, 08:25:02 pm
Hi P. Just got back from JHB. Food is great. Eat in the dinning car or in your compartment. Bar open all day and night. Coffee and beer trollies to sleeper compartments occasionally or you can sit at table or buy and take out. No noise at night.  
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Post by: Orca on May 07, 2014, 08:28:09 pm
R600.00 pp one way from Cape Town to JHB. Much cheaper than flights and more enjoyable. You can do the JHB to Durban cheaper.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 08, 2014, 09:25:09 am
O, how long did it take CPT-JHB?
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Post by: Patrick on May 08, 2014, 12:59:35 pm
@Moneypenny The schedule says you leave jhb at 12:30 and arrive at15:30 the next day. 27 hours in total.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 08, 2014, 03:26:27 pm
Wow that's a long time, hopefully scenic route.
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Post by: Orca on May 08, 2014, 07:19:44 pm
Of the 27 hours, you sleep for 10. So 17 hrs of enjoying the scenery and chatting. Their are 3 prong and 2 prong plugs for your electronic stuff to keep you occupied. Staff is very efficient and keep you supplied with refreshments.  
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Post by: Orca on May 08, 2014, 07:20:55 pm
I would love to do the Cape to Durban route.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 08, 2014, 07:24:26 pm
Lol, no O, you sleep 10, I have 4 more extra to kill. 8)
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Post by: Orca on May 08, 2014, 07:41:46 pm
They have shutters on the windows that make the compartment pitch black and the movement of the train lulls one to sleep.
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Post by: Orca on May 08, 2014, 07:43:06 pm
The beers help as well.
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Post by: Patrick on May 09, 2014, 10:46:13 am
Thanks Orca, I'm definitely going to book a trip for my boy and I some time.
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on May 09, 2014, 01:39:54 pm
Pinnacle se Moer! there is no hope here.
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Post by: Patrick on May 12, 2014, 07:54:34 am
Happy monday everyone
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Post by: Neil on May 12, 2014, 01:42:00 pm
Does anyone know why ADW has shot up so much in last few days? I bought 35000 shares at 6c a share, so im smiling all the way to the bank, but i cant find a sens or anything to explain this massive rise
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Post by: Luna on May 12, 2014, 01:45:39 pm
http://www.sharechat.co.za/forum/topic/20623-afdawn/#entry235534
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 12, 2014, 02:19:31 pm
@P: lol, what's so special 'bout this Monday?
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Post by: Patrick on May 12, 2014, 02:23:50 pm
@MP Haha I had a great weekend so I woke up in a fantastic mood! Hope yours was good too.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 12, 2014, 02:36:32 pm
Obviously more subdued than yours, but I'm happy for you! ;-)
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Post by: Orca on May 12, 2014, 07:36:50 pm
Spent another day at SARS. New software system and was so slow as no one knew how to use it.
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Post by: Patrick on May 13, 2014, 08:50:33 am
Love it, since my post yesterday I'm getting WONGA ads on my site. I'm thinking they haven't read the post... :)
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Post by: Neil on May 13, 2014, 10:55:49 am
how much ad revenue do you typically generate from your site?
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Post by: Patrick on May 13, 2014, 12:40:50 pm
Nearly half a beer a day ;)
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Post by: fredy on May 13, 2014, 04:50:41 pm
What is happening to TOR
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Post by: Nivek on May 13, 2014, 05:50:24 pm
It looks like just a volatile smallcap. I see no news.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 13, 2014, 05:58:14 pm
Whoa! Thor, thought you said Thor, had my attention there for a moment. ;-)   High of 260 today, low of 235, 65 deals -5.77%.  Nothing happening, just a small cap making usual small cap moves. Also today a few share dealings by associates of a director of a sub, nothing much else I can see.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 14, 2014, 01:06:34 pm
Naspers moving after Tencent update, +7.36% now, taking Alsi with it.
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Post by: Nivek on May 14, 2014, 02:43:52 pm
Big move, how good was the update?
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Post by: Patrick on May 14, 2014, 03:04:49 pm
Good enough to bump the indi by 1.25% :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 15, 2014, 09:20:28 am
1Q net profit up 60%
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Post by: Patrick on May 16, 2014, 01:47:40 pm
Enjoy the weekend everyone
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Post by: Orca on May 16, 2014, 03:17:56 pm
Oh, is it weekend again?
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on May 19, 2014, 10:35:14 am
iQ or 1Q ?
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Post by: Shi on May 19, 2014, 11:55:51 am
On AQPN ... sold by 6th May or exercised by 12th May

Patrick, reminder on the AQP rights offer.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2014, 02:38:14 pm
Why is ABL going up. I want it at R3 ;'(
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Post by: Nivek on May 19, 2014, 04:25:51 pm
I still wouldn't buy it at R3
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Post by: jaDEB on May 20, 2014, 09:36:36 am
hEY I aM lAst on thE DARk sIDe loL
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Post by: Orca on May 20, 2014, 03:58:23 pm
A long trade on CML will get you 10% in days.
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Post by: Orca on May 20, 2014, 04:23:40 pm
Was going to add some at 9570 but it seems stuck at 9820 here.
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Post by: Patrick on May 21, 2014, 12:59:55 pm
I see we have traders at the #1 and #2 spot... First time they've beaten the investors...
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Post by: gcr on May 21, 2014, 04:51:26 pm
I see we have traders at the #1 and #2 spot... First time they've beaten the investors...
If I look at the first placed person then costs and profit are very close to one another - so it would seem that the value is in the counters held rather than from the churn in holdings
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Post by: Hannes on May 21, 2014, 05:15:47 pm
Why can't I access my shares in "my holdings". They say ouput error in unknown on line 0. Now I can't trade. Anyone else have he same poblem?
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Post by: Patrick on May 21, 2014, 05:59:49 pm
Sorry Hannes, common problem, let me see what I can do.
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Post by: Orca on May 21, 2014, 06:52:49 pm
Too late for CML investors. From now it is up and up for the divie.
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Post by: Orca on May 21, 2014, 07:28:39 pm
Oh, Sorry. I see you are all sleeping now.
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Post by: Snakepit on May 21, 2014, 07:37:20 pm
Me 2 - Can't see my holdings.
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Post by: Mr Beni on May 21, 2014, 07:47:31 pm
Same here
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Post by: Patrick on May 22, 2014, 07:28:45 am
Seems to be fixed today
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Post by: Patrick on May 22, 2014, 07:33:15 am
That was the weirdest thing, I couldn't fix it last night but it fixed itself. Confused I am...
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Post by: Blue Shirt on May 22, 2014, 10:26:32 am
I see we have traders at the #1 and #2 spot... First time they've beaten the investors...

I see today that I am sitting in the #2 spot. I would not classify myself as a trader, perhaps a hybrid investor who is not afraid of locking in profits when the opportunity calls.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 22, 2014, 03:19:46 pm
Rate unchanged
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Post by: Mr. Venter on May 23, 2014, 09:46:56 am
My last transaction reflects twice on my profile. Effectively my total worth is R100k higher than what is shows on the leader board, and some of the fees are then calculated wrong as well. Anybody else have this issue?
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Post by: Luna on May 23, 2014, 10:16:30 am
This happened to me as well when I bought and quickly sold ASSORE shares. I'm not sure what the effects are when this happens. My total worth was about the same? I think... it did not increase by R48078 due to this issue, it was less .... I think the system still calculated the profit/loss and withdrew taxes?

After the sell I had, 37.67% cash on hand, 11.89% in Old Mutual and 59.49% in Vodacom (I saved the data on that day in a excel spreadsheet). This makes a total of 109.05%. So, somehow I've got 9.05% more money even though I effectively or accidentally ( :P) bought and sold shares at the same price. Today, I sill have about 107.88% as the total.

It would be nice if we could actually see how much taxes and fees we have paid as part of the list when buying and selling shares. If I make a gain on one share after selling but I make a loss on another share when I sell.. how does this typically affect the amount of taxes you pay? Does this system work correctly?
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Post by: Patrick on May 23, 2014, 10:47:44 am
Taxes are calculated at 30% of the net profit on sales of shares, so a loss would reduce the taxes. The double purchase/sale has me totally confused. I have to roll those back manually. Strangely I have code in place that's meant to block just that...
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Post by: Hannes on May 23, 2014, 10:48:44 am
It also happened to me. The system sold one of my transactions twice, thus my total worth shows R145k less than it should be. Also my shares % of my portfolio added together adds up to 140.19% which is obviously totally impossible. Hope this is fixable!
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Post by: Patrick on May 23, 2014, 10:49:13 am
Might be a breakdown between the database and web server. FYI I'm moving to a new server to gain some speed, I'm hoping that it doesn't have this issue.
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Post by: Patrick on May 23, 2014, 11:29:33 am
Apologies, need to remove this from the live chat, it seems to be a possible cause for major server load...
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Post by: Patrick on June 23, 2014, 02:02:25 pm
test
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Post by: Patrick on June 23, 2014, 02:04:48 pm
Ok is everyone seeing the chat again?
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Post by: Luna on June 23, 2014, 02:15:00 pm
jip
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Post by: Orca on June 23, 2014, 03:50:59 pm
Taking a break from exploring due to rain.
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Post by: Moonraker on June 23, 2014, 05:15:46 pm
Patrick, my message is not in 'Sent'. I think maybe a DNS thingie. Will check tomorrow.
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Post by: Moonraker on June 23, 2014, 05:16:42 pm
Seems OK if I use 8.8.8.8
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Post by: jaDEB on June 23, 2014, 05:28:39 pm
All fine, except avatar & pics not showing
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Post by: jaDEB on June 23, 2014, 05:50:16 pm
Patrick, why is I last in Comp ?
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Post by: Patrick on June 23, 2014, 06:21:42 pm
thanks guys, @jadeb was it not just you successfully showing a buy high and sell low strategy?
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 23, 2014, 09:21:22 pm
Seriously, you guys crack me up.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 24, 2014, 08:18:19 am
@ Patrick, :'( , lol
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Post by: Patrick on June 24, 2014, 10:35:47 am
Ok attachments and avatars back to normal...
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Post by: gcr on June 24, 2014, 10:56:01 am
Just a question - I had to log in today yet I have recorded that I should remain logged in "forever" - does the system have a time out feature to its structure?
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Post by: jaDEB on June 24, 2014, 11:06:50 am
Thks P
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Post by: jaDEB on June 24, 2014, 11:15:02 am
Gold 1325 :)
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Post by: Patrick on June 24, 2014, 12:05:14 pm
@gcr, I changed the cookie details, so that would have caused everyone to need to log in again.
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on June 24, 2014, 01:03:32 pm
i thought my account has been compromised...
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Post by: Orca on June 24, 2014, 10:24:53 pm
There we go. OMN up 21%. You guys sleeping and the sun is still up here.
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Post by: Patrick on June 25, 2014, 10:08:32 am
Why is it up so much Orca?
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Post by: Delusionsofgrandeur on June 25, 2014, 10:17:36 am
Results are out.The PE dropped to 15.5 today,but I don't see a 21% increase.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 25, 2014, 10:18:15 am
I think he is talking about time period not just yesterday.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 25, 2014, 02:32:21 pm
Gold on the move : )
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Post by: Patrick on June 25, 2014, 04:30:44 pm
anyone else still getting blank pages?
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Post by: Moonraker on June 25, 2014, 05:37:02 pm
Yes, intermittant. Also need to refresh to log in. I have no idea.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 25, 2014, 05:47:05 pm
Mine seems to be fine
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Post by: Orca on June 25, 2014, 07:10:03 pm
My first page is always blank.
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Post by: Patrick on June 25, 2014, 11:03:30 pm
More changes made, any blanks?
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Post by: jaDEB on June 26, 2014, 08:26:06 am
The new "post" sign is now little red x.
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Post by: Patrick on June 26, 2014, 08:44:08 am
Can you right click on the x and select view image, then paste the url for me please.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 26, 2014, 09:43:28 am
it's fixed sorry
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Post by: Moonraker on June 26, 2014, 10:08:44 am
OK, seems 'fixed' on my side as well. Thanks.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 26, 2014, 05:03:38 pm
Who else here will be affected by strike - Numsa :'(  
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Post by: jaDEB on June 26, 2014, 05:10:42 pm
$#@! 88&&& !!
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Post by: jaDEB on June 27, 2014, 11:00:33 am
Damn this site is getting lonesome
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Post by: Nivek on June 27, 2014, 11:49:32 am
Ek is hier
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Post by: Patrick on June 27, 2014, 12:05:19 pm
Maybe I should see if I can republish one of my blogs on moneyweb, and try get some interest. Which one would you suggest?
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Post by: jaDEB on June 27, 2014, 02:10:08 pm
Write a new 1 :)
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Post by: jaDEB on June 27, 2014, 02:11:05 pm
Base it on my buy high sell low Philosophy
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Post by: gcr on June 27, 2014, 02:50:58 pm
JaDEB - maybe you should write an article as to how you managed to go from the top of the tree down to position 321 in the shortest space in time, com'n its got to something more significant than just buying high and selling low - there has got to be class in there somewhere - so be a good chap and share your model 8)
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Post by: jaDEB on June 27, 2014, 03:07:27 pm
it is not a article, just a word, stupidity
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Post by: jaDEB on June 27, 2014, 03:17:17 pm
But I am working on it .. ;'(
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Post by: Orca on June 27, 2014, 06:13:07 pm
Been too busy to post lately. Will try and up it a bit.
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Post by: Moonraker on June 27, 2014, 06:44:16 pm
JaDeb - check Moneyweb link re. Aspen posted in sandbox.
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Post by: Orca on June 27, 2014, 10:36:49 pm
Watch EOH carry on with the momentum for some time irrespective of its high PE.
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Post by: Moonraker on June 30, 2014, 08:40:29 am
JaDEB, see SENS for APN. Not as bad as it seems.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 30, 2014, 08:47:33 am
Yip, :)
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Post by: Patrick on June 30, 2014, 11:19:17 am
Morning everyne... So what to write about this month? Maybe how much home owership sucks. R97k worth of damp repairs needed on my place :(
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Post by: jaDEB on June 30, 2014, 11:51:27 am
Your house could have been in Christchurch.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 30, 2014, 06:31:28 pm
Patrick, check POY profit warning
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Post by: Moonraker on June 30, 2014, 06:40:47 pm
More on Aspen in sandbox.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 30, 2014, 07:40:52 pm
Thks Mr Bond
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Post by: jaDEB on June 30, 2014, 07:59:41 pm
Check out gold .. :)
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Post by: Orca on June 30, 2014, 10:14:06 pm
Ja. My posts are after hours as you guys are sleeping down there in SA and we are on the beach.
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Post by: Orca on June 30, 2014, 10:15:41 pm
In the sun at your 22.00 hrs. This sucks.
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Post by: Patrick on July 01, 2014, 09:32:52 am
money is in, glad that worked phew...
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Post by: jaDEB on July 01, 2014, 10:10:52 am
Patrick u have POY ?
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Post by: Patrick on July 01, 2014, 10:20:39 am
I had in the game, but I sold it. In real life I have CML and STXIND
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Post by: jaDEB on July 01, 2014, 10:38:56 am
Chicken :)
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on July 01, 2014, 11:59:33 am
CORONATION FUND MNGRS LD reminds me of an Unstable GF. todays shes happy , tomorrow is is mad and you dont even know the reason why she mad.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 01, 2014, 12:09:44 pm
lol
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Post by: Nivek on July 01, 2014, 02:36:24 pm
Yes but those girlfriends are always the most fun!
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Post by: matiespero on July 01, 2014, 03:17:06 pm
If you what to ride a propper rollar coaster buy GFI!
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Post by: jakes147 on July 01, 2014, 09:40:50 pm
Poy
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Post by: Drummer on July 02, 2014, 12:53:26 pm
pinnacle
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Post by: dineshg on July 02, 2014, 01:25:46 pm
newgold
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Post by: Nivek on July 02, 2014, 03:27:19 pm
Looks like this chat has been confused for a search bar!
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Post by: Luna on July 02, 2014, 03:37:54 pm
lol
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Post by: jaDEB on July 02, 2014, 05:11:15 pm
lol was think same, or a suggestion box
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Post by: jaDEB on July 02, 2014, 05:14:23 pm
Maybe if you type your share here, the price will go up. True Patrick ?
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Post by: jaDEB on July 02, 2014, 05:14:52 pm
Sibanye & Aspen .. :)
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Post by: gcr on July 03, 2014, 10:49:49 am
Patrick - KST PSG Konsult does not appear to be on your list of shares that can be purchased - can you please include Ta
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Post by: Patrick on July 03, 2014, 01:49:06 pm
I'll have to check if it meets the tradeability requirements. If not, and others agree I can still add it, but make it so it can't be sold.
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Post by: gcr on July 03, 2014, 02:02:56 pm
Patrick not sure what your response means
This was an otc operation and PSG brought it to market as the JSE was/is terminating all otc share dealings. Its is 62% PSG Financial Services held which is a sub of PSG Holdings
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Post by: Luna on July 03, 2014, 02:16:25 pm
I'll have to check if it meets the tradeability requirements. If not, and others agree I can still add it, but make it so it can't be sold.

Awwwwww  :'( I'm sure it will meet "tradeability requirements".   O:-)
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Post by: Luna on July 03, 2014, 02:17:10 pm
Awwwwww  :'( I'm sure it will meet "tradeability requirements".   O:-)
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Post by: Patrick on July 03, 2014, 08:28:15 pm
Ah sorry GCR, my mistake, I thought it was an infrequently traded share, I see it's new. I'll see if I can find it on my pricing stream.
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Post by: Patrick on July 05, 2014, 04:26:58 pm
If you're with FNB you'll want to check your statement on 3 July. I got hit with a double transaction, seems thousands of others did too.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 07, 2014, 09:44:09 am
ABL up 14%
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Post by: jaDEB on July 07, 2014, 10:50:51 am
Ag no - I am talking to myself No point of posting anymore sorry
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Post by: jakes147 on July 07, 2014, 11:30:07 am
18.87
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Post by: Awtron on July 07, 2014, 12:22:44 pm
WEZ also up nicely
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Post by: Nivek on July 07, 2014, 12:59:21 pm
WTH is going on with ABL?
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Post by: jaDEB on July 07, 2014, 01:36:57 pm
Cautionary from ABL - Selling Ellerine
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Post by: Patrick on July 07, 2014, 02:47:34 pm
Well that'll give them some cash flow, but how will it help them turn a profit?
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Post by: Firepool on July 07, 2014, 03:26:27 pm
Smiling ...
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Post by: jaDEB on July 07, 2014, 03:32:03 pm
R225,533,323 ABL Traded
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Post by: Awtron on July 07, 2014, 04:19:29 pm
shoulda sold wez too
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Post by: Patrick on July 07, 2014, 06:38:32 pm
well played firepool!
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Post by: Orca on July 07, 2014, 10:29:40 pm
My CML is gone. STXIND is too high. Now what?
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Post by: Patrick on July 08, 2014, 09:59:00 am
@orca if you're looking for an ETF how about RMBMID? http://shareforum.co.za/shares/rmb-midcap-etf/
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Post by: Orca on July 08, 2014, 09:11:46 pm
RMBMID does 10% less than STXIND so will wait for correction.
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Post by: Firepool on July 09, 2014, 06:33:39 pm
Thanks Patrick! Zero skill. 100% luck.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 10, 2014, 11:08:09 am
Gold on the move :)
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Post by: Nivek on July 10, 2014, 11:59:52 am
Have you got gold jaDEB?
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Post by: jaDEB on July 10, 2014, 12:01:33 pm
Yes SGL
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Post by: Luna on July 11, 2014, 09:11:01 am
Satrix dividends declared...
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Post by: Luna on July 11, 2014, 09:51:49 am
I want to add the dividends for Satrix but I'm not sure exactly which dividend to use. The previous time it was declared as "An aggregate amount of 14.06000 cents (R0.14060) per Satrix Indi security for 28 March 2014" but Patrick only added "6.12166" as the dividend from which tax should be calculated. I think this is incorrect, if the local only dividend were used it should have been "7.20195" because "6.12166" is the dividend with tax already withdrawn? Also, according to ETFSA the dividend was 14.06000 cents from which tax should then be withdrawn. So isn't March 2014 dividends incorrect? Now, should we use the local dividend or the other one?

For June 2014, it should be:
"27.77000 cents" for "Satrix FINI" or "18.19784" if only local dividend
"10.27000 cents" for "Satrix RES" (only local dividend)
"25.20000 cents" for "Satrix INDI" (only local dividend)
"27.94000 cents" for "Satrix 40" or "21.77675" if only local dividend
"8.46000 cents" for "Satrix SWIX Top 40" or "7.19529" if only local dividend
"2.87000 cents" for "Satrix DIVI" or "2.81534" if only local dividend

For March 2014, it should be:
"0.0 cents" for "Satrix FINI" or "0.0" if only local dividend
"67.13000 cents" for "Satrix RES" or "0.98955" if only local dividend
"14.06000 cents" for "Satrix INDI" or "7.20195" if only local dividend
"20.84000 cents" for "Satrix 40" or "3.08358" if only local dividend
"3.36000 cents" for "Satrix SWIX Top 40" or "0.89595" if only local dividend
"1.77000 cents" for "Satrix DIVI" or "1.57603" if only local dividend

I dono, just confirm...
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Post by: Patrick on July 11, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
You should add the complete local dividend including tax, the system will then take off the 15%. I may have made a mistake earlier...
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Post by: Luna on July 11, 2014, 01:25:23 pm
Uhh something is broken, Aquarius platinum was bought by various people NazzoP and Itut. The didn't have the money for this buy and have negative cash on hand? What is going on? AQP at a price of R2.41?
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Post by: Luna on July 11, 2014, 01:26:45 pm
lol and it keeps on going
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Post by: Patrick on July 11, 2014, 01:45:39 pm
yeah im making things worse! I'll et to the bottom of it soon.
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Post by: Luna on July 11, 2014, 01:51:30 pm
Hihi
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Post by: Patrick on July 11, 2014, 02:18:11 pm
Ok now the rights issue has been exercised.  So their holdings are right. The fact that they're in the negative is pretty unavoidable as we always force a holdings option to be taken... It has made the leaderboard a little weird though... How to solve???
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Post by: Patrick on July 11, 2014, 02:21:56 pm
Nope got my dates screwed. Let's try again...
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Post by: Patrick on July 11, 2014, 02:31:04 pm
Ok, all rolled back. I'll do the rights issue againwhen I'm concentrating more!
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Post by: Luna on July 11, 2014, 02:33:01 pm
Link to this rights issue?
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Post by: Shi on July 11, 2014, 02:53:52 pm
Link to this rights issue?

http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/mining/2014/04/23/aquarius-share-price-reflects-rights-issue ... was done a while back but not applied here
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Post by: Luna on July 11, 2014, 03:03:38 pm
cool thx
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Post by: Peter01 on July 15, 2014, 07:49:21 pm
Hi could someone please assist me.. When a company declares a dividend in July 2014 and the last day to trade is recorded as 8 Aug 2014 could i then purchase the stock before or on 8 Aug and still recieve the dividend?
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Post by: Patrick on July 15, 2014, 09:15:31 pm
You need to own the shares at close on the LDT. Usually a friday on the JSE.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 16, 2014, 08:14:10 am
Last Day to Trade - LDT
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Post by: Luna on July 16, 2014, 08:34:20 am
Also, just remember that the stock will usually drop in price by the amount of the expected dividend on the ex-dividend date... So if the LDT is on a friday, the monday thereafter will most probably be the Ex-div date.
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Post by: Peter01 on July 16, 2014, 09:41:37 am
Ok Thank you, will keep in mind. Could I then sell again on the Monday? So technically keeping it for one day
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Post by: Luna on July 16, 2014, 09:54:25 am
yes
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Post by: Peter01 on July 16, 2014, 11:39:30 am
Thank you Luna. Just as last question will I be entitled to the full dividend or pro rata based on the time I held the share?
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Post by: Luna on July 16, 2014, 11:45:53 am
full dividend
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Post by: Peter01 on July 16, 2014, 03:00:48 pm
a follow up question on this would be if say that I have a CFD on a share and is exposed at say R10000 worth  of shares but in fact only hold a R1000 of shares, do I receive dividends on the geared amount of shares?
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Post by: Orca on July 16, 2014, 10:19:32 pm
Hyping up MTA and OMN. The next beauts in my portfolio.  Please comply.
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Post by: Moonraker on July 17, 2014, 10:12:18 am
repo rate will go up by ¼ %   :) {imho}
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Post by: gcr on July 17, 2014, 11:20:53 am
Repo rate will be kept at current levels - the noises made will just be a bit more hawkish
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Post by: Peter01 on July 17, 2014, 02:00:25 pm
This there any share with a LTD tommorow?
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Post by: Patrick on July 17, 2014, 03:03:06 pm
Read here: http://shareforum.co.za/shares/ldt/
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Post by: Peter01 on July 17, 2014, 03:10:43 pm
Very nice thanks
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 17, 2014, 03:15:44 pm
For tomorrow:

AER (CD / LDT)   Cash Dividend
AME (CD / LDT)   Cash Dividend
CRW (TE / LDT)   Termination: JSE and/Or Company Initiated
DON (TE / LDT)   Termination: JSE and/Or Company Initiated
EPS (CO / LDT)   Consolidation
EPS (SD / LDT)   Subdivision
FMC (NC / LDT)   Name Change
GDN (CD / LDT)   Cash Dividend
ILRP1 (CD / LDT)   Cash Dividend
NPKP (CD / LDT)   Cash Dividend
NPP1 (CD / LDT)   Cash Dividend
RNG (IS / LDT)   Special Dividend
SNV (CD / LDT)   Cash Dividend
STXDIV (CD / Pay Date)   Cash Dividend
STXIND (CD / Pay Date)   Cash Dividend
STXRAF (CD / LDT)   Cash Dividend
STXRES (IT / Pay Date)   Interest Payment
STXSWX (CD / Pay Date)   Cash Dividend
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Post by: jaDEB on July 17, 2014, 06:04:04 pm
Gold :)
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Post by: Peter01 on July 18, 2014, 12:55:02 pm
I see Alexander Forbes had its IPO, when could we start trading in its shares?
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Post by: Shi on July 18, 2014, 03:06:11 pm
I see Alexander Forbes had its IPO, when could we start trading in its shares?
The settlement date and expected listing date of Alexander Forbes, subject to achieving a spread of
shareholders acceptable to the securities exchange operated by the JSE Limited, is expected to be
Thursday, 24 July 2014 (the “Listing Date” or “Settlement Date”). Any change in that date will be announced
on SENS.

Based on a total of 1,302,356,263 Alexander Forbes ordinary no par value shares outstanding at the
Settlement Date, the Offer Price implies a total market capitalisation of R9,768 million for Alexander Forbes.
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Post by: Peter01 on July 19, 2014, 05:23:16 pm
Thanks Shi, what would thi them mean for the current preferance share holders? Would it be a good idea to buy into the pref shares?
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Post by: Sally on July 21, 2014, 01:40:38 pm
sally
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Post by: Shi on July 21, 2014, 09:12:23 pm
Not sure Peter01, I'm not familiar with them.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 23, 2014, 04:43:32 pm
I'm starting to get a real creepy feeling from one of my 2014 favourites (SHF)
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Post by: Patrick on July 23, 2014, 04:57:14 pm
What happened to SHF last year that it had such a big jump up?
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 23, 2014, 05:26:56 pm
I think it was a process, i.e. acquiring Conforama (French furniture retailer) in March 2011 (height of Euro crisis and anticipated collapse which didn’t happen), now they had network of 200 stores in Switzerland, Portugal, Spain, Luxembourg, Croatia.  Also acquired Leiner Group (Austria, Central & Eastern Europe).  They spread their wings when there was blood in the streets and it paid off this time, the Euro listing also helped but only happened cause of the new Euro footprint. Europe could have just as well went south (lol, then being Africa), it would have been different story altogether.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 23, 2014, 05:30:23 pm
I see you're playing around with fb, Patrick, how will this work?
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Post by: Patrick on July 24, 2014, 08:13:33 am
Yes, it should make registration really quick. You can also link your FB account to your current forum account. Hopefully this would encourage the many browsers to sign in and post!
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 24, 2014, 09:54:18 am
Does this mean that if linked forum members will be able to access my fb acc?
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Post by: Luna on July 24, 2014, 09:54:31 am
Alexander Forbes (AFH) not in the list to buy?
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 24, 2014, 10:30:52 am
AFH opening price 8.10, high 8.60, currently 8.55 @ 10:05am 20 mil shares traded.
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Post by: che on July 24, 2014, 03:08:23 pm
invicta
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Post by: Patrick on July 24, 2014, 03:24:18 pm
No, it only uses facebook for authentication, it won't show people on the forum who you are on FB.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 24, 2014, 03:27:44 pm
Tx P
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 24, 2014, 03:27:58 pm
#MH370 : missing 08/03 #MH17 : shot down 17/07 #GE222 : crashed 23/07 #AH5017 : crashed 24/07
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Post by: Patrick on July 25, 2014, 08:52:57 am
It's crazy, I've got some flights coming up soon that I'm not so keen on right now...
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 25, 2014, 09:32:16 am
Logged in via fb, it works fine
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Post by: Patrick on July 25, 2014, 09:39:01 am
Thanks for letting me know MP.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 25, 2014, 10:05:38 am
;-)
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Post by: Peter01 on July 25, 2014, 11:54:18 am
Hi Guys: Lets start a CFD of the day topic? would anyone be interested?
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Post by: jaDEB on July 25, 2014, 02:59:36 pm
I do not do CFD's but I will read it to learn...  :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 28, 2014, 08:39:03 am
@ Peter01:  Try it P01, although most members here prefer it only to watch. ;D
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Post by: jaDEB on July 28, 2014, 10:09:25 am
SGL recovering a bit..hiding on friday :(
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Post by: jaDEB on July 28, 2014, 03:15:28 pm
Strike over ?   :) :)
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Post by: Nivek on July 28, 2014, 03:38:24 pm
Which strike? Metalworkers? I though SGL was doing a dead cat bounce.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 28, 2014, 04:04:57 pm
Metalworkers
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Post by: Peter01 on July 30, 2014, 08:43:27 am
Can KIO climb more?
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Post by: Peter01 on July 30, 2014, 08:43:48 am
Has been a very nice ride
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Post by: jaDEB on July 30, 2014, 08:52:46 am
What did u buy it at?
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Post by: Peter01 on July 30, 2014, 08:58:10 am
R 350 :)
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Post by: Peter01 on July 30, 2014, 09:04:44 am
Some speculate that it will go as far as R400? any thoughts?
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Post by: jaDEB on July 30, 2014, 09:06:50 am
look if thread is below. or start 1. many factors. Rand, commodities so on so on
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Post by: Peter01 on July 30, 2014, 10:16:02 am
Not so good start for the day
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Post by: Patrick on July 30, 2014, 10:30:36 am
how long are you planning on holding peter?
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Post by: Peter01 on July 30, 2014, 10:35:25 am
That a good quesiton. Really dont know maybe should get out now and not to to greedy??
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 30, 2014, 02:27:38 pm
Re KIO: As jaDEB said, various outside factors(China growth, commodity price, forex and iron ore not in short supply) which adds an extra layer to this one, but – an there is always a but, it has a nice dividend yield, think in the range of 10%.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 30, 2014, 02:32:13 pm
Forgot to mention, last div was 22/7/14
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Post by: Moonraker on July 30, 2014, 03:12:49 pm
Mboweni says SA should buy bank to boost development
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-south-africa/mboweni-says-south-africa-should-buy-bank-to-boost
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Post by: jaDEB on July 30, 2014, 03:45:27 pm
Just read it also. maybe that is why ABL is so cheap lol
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Post by: Peter01 on July 30, 2014, 04:02:30 pm
Do any one here trade in SSF's?
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Post by: jaDEB on July 30, 2014, 04:57:28 pm
Not me
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Post by: Peter01 on July 30, 2014, 08:31:12 pm
what do you trade jaDEB? to much red for me today
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Post by: jaDEB on July 31, 2014, 07:13:21 am
Just shares. Port is 100 % 1 share..
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Post by: jaDEB on July 31, 2014, 08:43:17 am
SGL results out
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Post by: jaDEB on July 31, 2014, 08:58:09 am
kk jaDEB
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Post by: Nivek on July 31, 2014, 09:10:44 am
Brave strategy jaDEB, how's it working for you?
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Post by: jaDEB on July 31, 2014, 09:18:04 am
Thrilling - lol -
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Post by: Patrick on July 31, 2014, 03:01:21 pm
How about a thread showing annual returnds as a %? I'm happy to share...
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Post by: Peter01 on July 31, 2014, 04:32:02 pm
Good idea ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 01, 2014, 07:29:33 am
Good Idea. will make me cry, but good idea
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Post by: jaDEB on August 01, 2014, 07:41:17 am
My buy high sell low is still Pertinent
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Post by: Peter01 on August 01, 2014, 08:22:55 am
Ill make you all feel beter dont warry
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Post by: Luna on August 01, 2014, 08:46:29 am
Hoping to get R1m net worth after tax in the comp today :P
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Post by: jaDEB on August 01, 2014, 10:21:56 am
I is trying to get to last place...
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Post by: Luna on August 01, 2014, 10:44:45 am
lol. I've been following your progress
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Post by: Patrick on August 01, 2014, 10:48:18 am
I don't know what to write about this month :(
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Post by: jaDEB on August 01, 2014, 11:03:51 am
Write about 1st Place and Last place's shares ?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 01, 2014, 11:06:17 am
Darkside comp starts today as well :)
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on August 01, 2014, 01:46:01 pm
Ching$ Ching$
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Post by: Patrick on August 01, 2014, 01:52:06 pm
What made you by Mr Price?
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Post by: Shopkeeper on August 01, 2014, 02:16:42 pm
Hallo Patric, a sugestion for this month's article is " how to plan your share buy's" - Remember a lot is cyclical. Shopkeeper
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Post by: gcr on August 01, 2014, 03:11:00 pm
What made you by Mr Price?
Not sure who this addressed to but I also bought Mr Price today - about R 64,000 worth - one of the few shares that is bullet proof at the moment
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Post by: Itut on August 04, 2014, 01:46:29 pm
telkom
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Post by: Luna on August 04, 2014, 02:15:46 pm
Patrick, I think people are using the live chat in the "buy shares" tab to search :)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 04, 2014, 03:46:39 pm
Yes, and your competition is also broken :(
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Post by: Luna on August 04, 2014, 04:10:18 pm
lol why?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 04, 2014, 04:55:36 pm
I is 1st on the darkside, and in this comp nearly last :(
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Post by: Luna on August 04, 2014, 05:12:43 pm
darkside?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 04, 2014, 05:19:17 pm
Other website we do not mention, they treated us like [email protected] Hence Patrick created this site
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Post by: Patrick on August 04, 2014, 05:54:57 pm
what's broken with the competition?
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 04, 2014, 08:05:29 pm
@P:  I dunno, maybe strategies, dreams, wishes, you pick. ;-0
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Post by: jaDEB on August 04, 2014, 08:39:01 pm
@P: Like MP says strategies dreams wishes... :( I am nearly last.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 05, 2014, 10:12:34 am
Luna u No1.... nice
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Post by: Luna on August 05, 2014, 10:22:18 am
Trying to keep in front of the Telkom investors :o
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Post by: Luna on August 05, 2014, 10:23:52 am
I'm constantly wishing that Telkom would go down :D
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Post by: jaDEB on August 05, 2014, 11:04:02 am
u want to buy ?
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Post by: Peter01 on August 05, 2014, 11:09:10 am
what do you guy think about JBL? they released some good results and looks to return to profitability..
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Post by: Luna on August 05, 2014, 11:17:24 am
lol no, anything government touches, I leave alone.
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Post by: Luna on August 05, 2014, 11:18:25 am
Thats for Telkom... not JBL... No comment on JBL.
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Post by: Peter01 on August 05, 2014, 11:23:11 am
Lol anyone else on JBL?
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Post by: Peter01 on August 05, 2014, 11:23:41 am
Well telkom up 5% today :)
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Post by: Luna on August 05, 2014, 11:29:22 am
Jip I know :/
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Post by: Peter01 on August 05, 2014, 11:31:34 am
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 05, 2014, 12:48:49 pm
...that was a scary long tremor :-0
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Post by: Luna on August 05, 2014, 01:03:58 pm
jip :o
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Post by: 6x9base13 on August 05, 2014, 01:27:32 pm
BCX
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Post by: Patrick on August 05, 2014, 01:34:21 pm
Yeah we were told to evacuate the office.
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Post by: gcr on August 05, 2014, 02:05:24 pm
Yeah we were told to evacuate the office.
Too late - if it had been a big one ;)
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Post by: Motown Capital on August 05, 2014, 03:01:03 pm
In primary school my geography teacher told me South Afrika doesn't have to worry about earthquakes cos we're not sitting on any active fault lines...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 05, 2014, 05:11:20 pm
Not a tremor, Patrick dropped his payslip.
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Post by: Luna on August 05, 2014, 05:13:14 pm
:D
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on August 05, 2014, 05:18:46 pm
wow this tremor.. just dropped my share price.LOL
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:24:21 am
African Bank -30% :0
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:25:09 am
-35%
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:28:16 am
Make that -50%
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:28:27 am
Lol, sorry for the guys invested in this.
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Post by: Peter01 on August 06, 2014, 09:30:29 am
Time to buy?
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:30:50 am
Maybe
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:31:35 am
Sold all my ABL shares yesterday :) thank goodness
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Post by: Peter01 on August 06, 2014, 09:32:55 am
lol nice
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Post by: Peter01 on August 06, 2014, 09:33:17 am
let buy some now? or is this one done?
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:36:51 am
This company is a gamble :P
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 09:41:22 am
Now I am last in both comp :';(
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 09:48:07 am
@ Luna - Real shares or Comp - ABL ?
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:51:41 am
no just comp. Wouldn't touch this with real money
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 09:53:09 am
I nearly did buy it ... luckily not
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 09:53:24 am
with real money..
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 09:56:21 am
I don't even want to imagine having a -60% loss :O
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 10:40:30 am
ABL trading suspended ?
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Post by: 100ways on August 06, 2014, 10:43:48 am
Just bought in at 319cps
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 10:45:45 am
@100ways - Nice ... good luck ... :) [email protected] of steel, but I think u gonna coin it...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 10:49:14 am
R u gonna sell if it spikes or keeping it?
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Post by: 100ways on August 06, 2014, 10:54:46 am
If it does spike will sell out...  ???
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 10:58:42 am
Think it will fall further
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 10:59:18 am
Quick money makers already in and out...
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Post by: Shi on August 06, 2014, 11:57:15 am
For comp ... thinking of going all in with ABL ... I'm far down the leaderboard so why not  :-[
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 06, 2014, 12:11:24 pm
...hehe, go for it Shi. We'll cheer you from the sides.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 12:18:41 pm
my buy high sell low philosophy does not allow me to do it
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 12:23:13 pm
You think SGL will hold to that philosophy as well since you are 90% in it?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 01:25:48 pm
Yes, the darkside comp I had 40% ABL, was in lead yesterday now down far :'(. Have SGL also in real portfolio.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 02:21:11 pm
Gold :) 1296
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Post by: matiespero on August 06, 2014, 02:27:57 pm
Why wount AIP fall properly?????????? i want it @ R40
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Post by: Moonraker on August 06, 2014, 02:30:44 pm
Blood. German factory orders down mainly due to Ukraine fears, Italy back in recession
plus US interest rate increase concerns, to name some.
Putin is @$$$hole.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2014, 03:15:18 pm
Hey Mr Bond, u back from mission :)   Gold 1305 :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 06, 2014, 03:39:23 pm
Yeah looking a tad red out there today...
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Post by: Luna on August 06, 2014, 03:52:07 pm
lol for a trader this feels like a mine field... trying to jump from one safe spot to the next.
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Post by: Chadb on August 06, 2014, 10:45:46 pm
Closing in on the 1mil mark, Luma you not too far away ;)
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 08:53:54 am
lol I'm hoping that Telkom would go down :P It's challenge to stay ahead.
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 08:55:28 am
And.... for Vodacom to go up :P
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Post by: jaDEB on August 07, 2014, 11:13:00 am
Wow ABL :'(  Bought Small amount @ R1  :)
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 11:14:06 am
Yeah now at 60c
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 11:15:15 am
Wondering what will happen now? Any info from the holding companies or bond holders would be nice.
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 11:17:15 am
How will this affect CML?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 07, 2014, 11:25:06 am
32c wth
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Post by: jaDEB on August 07, 2014, 11:27:00 am
Must say, was ver close to buying @ R6. WOuld have lost all my money...dodged a bullet
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 11:35:08 am
ABL out of the buy shares table?
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Post by: Patrick on August 07, 2014, 11:51:22 am
Ha yes. it's trading under R1 so it gets excluded!!!!
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 11:52:46 am
Meh :P
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Post by: Patrick on August 07, 2014, 11:54:57 am
sadly it's taking cml down a chunk too...
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 12:20:48 pm
now at 95c
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 12:21:11 pm
Will it automatically come back in the "buy shares" list if it goes above R1?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 07, 2014, 12:21:14 pm
Back @ 95c :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 07, 2014, 01:15:38 pm
@Luna yes
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Post by: The Investor on August 07, 2014, 01:19:33 pm
1st place!!! Hooray!!
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 01:20:01 pm
@ Patrick Ok nice to know.
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 01:20:25 pm
Hehe congrats :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 07, 2014, 01:21:03 pm
:) Well done! What did you know about Telkom that the rest of us missed?
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Post by: The Investor on August 07, 2014, 01:26:11 pm
Hehe...can't reveal my secrets :) Don't think it is if you listen to a certain radio station at around 18:00 every day...lol Really enjoying the game - thank you. Going to savor this moment while it lasts :)
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Post by: The Investor on August 07, 2014, 01:54:30 pm
Not cool Luna! lol
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 07, 2014, 03:14:29 pm
SA business confidence at 15-year low
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Post by: The Investor on August 07, 2014, 03:47:25 pm
yeah...back at no 1...lol
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Post by: Luna on August 07, 2014, 04:07:10 pm
:'(
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Post by: jaDEB on August 07, 2014, 04:31:59 pm
Ellerine applies for 'rescue'
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Post by: The Investor on August 07, 2014, 06:24:25 pm
Youre back at the top Luna - well done! :)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 08, 2014, 08:28:06 am
Gold @ 1321 :) - good luck to all that bought ABL yesterday.
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Post by: Luna on August 08, 2014, 09:06:10 am
Well, I guess, if you can start from the bottom after being 100% in ABL and move your way to the top... that would be an achievement :)
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Post by: Shi on August 08, 2014, 11:35:13 am
Gold @ 1321 :) - good luck to all that bought ABL yesterday.

Don't think any1 could as it was not in the list cause it was under 100c
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Post by: Patrick on August 08, 2014, 11:47:01 am
I think he means in reality...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 08, 2014, 11:59:32 am
Yip, mean in reality.
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Post by: Shi on August 08, 2014, 12:43:32 pm
Yip, mean in reality.

Noted. Very risky.
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Post by: Ombre on August 08, 2014, 01:38:52 pm
abl
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Post by: jaDEB on August 08, 2014, 02:10:00 pm
Teeny amount R3k :)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 08, 2014, 02:17:03 pm
Amount of ABL shares trading is unbelievable.
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 03:25:28 pm
PNC still on downward spiral...Another ABL/
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Post by: Luna on August 08, 2014, 04:37:59 pm
Telkom Retirement Of Director pending a disciplinary process
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Post by: Luna on August 08, 2014, 04:39:04 pm
Telkom shares tanked a bit
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Post by: Luna on August 08, 2014, 04:39:59 pm
Sorry "disciplinary process" discontinued
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 04:42:34 pm
the new director?
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Post by: gcr on August 08, 2014, 04:45:05 pm
I tried to post yesterday but as I have a sh.t.y Telkom noisy line I couldn't and my internet is running like a horse and cart instead of a Ferrari.
I scrolled through a few peoples portfolios and was curious to find that some competitors have negative numbers of shares in their portfolio
Another curiosity is that Lunar has made about R 250,000 with sale of shares but has costs and fees of some R 113,000 yet his portfolio value is still over a million. Are fees not added/deducted from each trade one makes when buying/selling shares as is the case with conventional buying/selling through a broker
Just curious as to the mechanics of things
 
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Post by: Luna on August 08, 2014, 04:45:45 pm
Lol I dono... just saw something about it in a SENS.
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Post by: Luna on August 08, 2014, 04:47:51 pm
Lol I've been Luma and now Lunar :P
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 04:49:56 pm
ok see it
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 04:50:12 pm
RETIREMENT OF DIRECTOR
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 04:50:59 pm
yah luna how did you do it? pray do tell
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 04:51:26 pm
what's your strategy :P
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Post by: Luna on August 08, 2014, 05:04:12 pm
Pinnacle almost -25%
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 05:10:18 pm
PNC HEPS decline between 15% and 20%
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 05:10:37 pm
no wonder it's tanking further
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Post by: Nios on August 08, 2014, 05:11:22 pm
there's why that director was bribing the cops for that big deal
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Post by: Moonraker on August 10, 2014, 02:03:50 pm
The South African Reserve Bank (SARB) will hold a press conference today (Sunday, 10 August) at 16:00 to announce measures to be taken with regard to African Bank Limited.  The press conference will take place at the SARB Conference Centre in Pretoria.
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Post by: attuu on August 10, 2014, 03:47:57 pm
What are they going to do then?
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Post by: attuu on August 10, 2014, 03:49:15 pm
Really don't want abil to bust
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Post by: Moonraker on August 10, 2014, 05:16:31 pm
Split into good bank/bad bank - See http://www.fin24.com/
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Post by: Luna on August 11, 2014, 08:37:16 am
Suspension Of All Abil And African Bank Securities On The Exchange Operated By The Jse
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Post by: Nivek on August 11, 2014, 10:19:17 am
So now the government is getting into banking???
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Post by: Motown Capital on August 11, 2014, 10:59:39 am
It's not the government per se, it's the Reserve Bank.  Why is that a bad thing? It's done in the US and Europe...
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Post by: Hingsding on August 12, 2014, 10:25:36 am
kumba
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Post by: Hingsding on August 12, 2014, 10:29:27 am
shoprite
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Post by: Orca on August 12, 2014, 12:02:52 pm
CIL
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Post by: jaDEB on August 12, 2014, 12:42:36 pm
Hello Orca ... :)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 12, 2014, 02:34:26 pm
Gold : )
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Post by: Orca on August 12, 2014, 04:29:52 pm
Hi jaDEB. at home today due to rain.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 12, 2014, 05:47:43 pm
Mr Bond, why is NPN on PE of 90 ?
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Post by: Moonraker on August 13, 2014, 08:32:40 am
Yup, high, high, high. Earnings need to catch up some. Market thinks they will.
So future expectations. Priced for perfection.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 13, 2014, 08:45:49 am
:) Thanks
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Post by: Moonraker on August 13, 2014, 09:01:30 am
@Orca. 1½ months - then friggin cold in N.Portugal..
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Post by: Moonraker on August 13, 2014, 09:02:08 am
..and you know what they say: "The cold is a bad lover"
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Post by: Moonraker on August 13, 2014, 09:10:21 am
Fitch cuts Naspers debt to junk. http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-equity/fitch-cuts-naspers-to-junk
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Post by: Orca on August 13, 2014, 11:23:39 am
 Not unexpected.
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 13, 2014, 01:24:08 pm
 SA Retail Sales (YoY) came in at 0.0%, expected 2.0%, previous 2.6%.
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Post by: Luna on August 13, 2014, 02:19:53 pm
Metair not doing too bad lately
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Post by: Luna on August 13, 2014, 02:21:40 pm
Currently 50% in it for the game :P waiting for results
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Post by: Patrick on August 13, 2014, 02:57:40 pm
So it's Metair vs Telkom then for the lead...
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Post by: Orca on August 13, 2014, 07:14:01 pm
At last, there goes my beaut.
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Post by: Luna on August 13, 2014, 07:18:54 pm
You saw the SENS?
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Post by: Orca on August 14, 2014, 01:56:22 pm
Wasn't expecting it. Results out in a few days. Time to add.
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Post by: Moonraker on August 16, 2014, 03:44:10 pm
African Banksters. Chk. thread 'African Bank'.
Link courtesy 'The Dangeruss' (aka 'The Darkside').
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Post by: jaDEB on August 17, 2014, 10:40:17 am
Thanks Mr Bond
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Post by: jaDEB on August 17, 2014, 10:43:39 am
Did it from my Tablet tappatalk... :) next is my standard 6 lower grade :)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 18, 2014, 09:03:24 am
capitec down grade ? wonder what will happen
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Post by: Patrick on August 19, 2014, 04:09:46 pm
Quiet here after the abil fireworks of late...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 19, 2014, 04:45:37 pm
Ya ..  :(
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Post by: jaDEB on August 19, 2014, 06:00:52 pm
And none of the Pro's saw all the bank being downgraded after ABL - and they own the Yachts in CT? See FNB also
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Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2014, 09:20:14 am
So time to start thinking about a new topic for a blog post...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 20, 2014, 10:10:02 am
Write about offers like red penny shares monthly sub for advice. Is it worth it or scam
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Post by: jaDEB on August 20, 2014, 10:54:39 am
Any1 have NPN ?
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Post by: Orca on August 20, 2014, 01:04:45 pm
Do you mean Red Hot Penny Shares that Jeff Black managed?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 20, 2014, 03:53:25 pm
Yes and Others
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Post by: Orca on August 20, 2014, 09:01:51 pm
Yeah. Read my post below.
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Post by: Orca on August 20, 2014, 09:04:43 pm
Sold R150k of my PNC just before it shot up by 19%. Sniff.
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Post by: Retry on August 21, 2014, 10:46:37 am
I am going to break the 40% barrier...come on! lol
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 21, 2014, 11:55:13 am
Rating agency S&P confirmed they will not downgrade SA banks, as Moody's did recently.  Banking outlook stable.
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Post by: Hstig on August 22, 2014, 11:03:00 am
GFI dividend 20c per share
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Post by: jaDEB on August 25, 2014, 04:09:51 pm
PNC :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2014, 04:44:05 pm
How hard is Orca kicking himself for selling...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 25, 2014, 04:53:07 pm
R u sure he sold ? Damn we should have bought at bottom, but how do u know...!!
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Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2014, 05:19:37 pm
Sold R150k of my PNC just before it shot up by 19%. Sniff.
A few posts back...
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Post by: Nios on August 26, 2014, 07:32:44 am
predictions on pnc close today
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Post by: jaDEB on August 26, 2014, 09:00:12 am
my predictions suck..see graph
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Post by: Shi on August 26, 2014, 10:10:22 am
I'd be happy with 1500c. A steady move up to about 1800c (in about a week) and I'm out.
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Post by: Orca on August 26, 2014, 04:22:59 pm
My broker's Fair Value is R18.00
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Post by: Orca on August 26, 2014, 04:31:47 pm
Sold PNC at R6.99 :-(
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Post by: member2204 on August 26, 2014, 05:09:01 pm
ellies
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Post by: jaDEB on August 26, 2014, 05:10:51 pm
Where is MoneyPenny ?
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 26, 2014, 05:40:22 pm
I'm here jaDEB, just busy, looking in now and then, be back next wk. ;-)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 26, 2014, 05:48:53 pm
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 26, 2014, 05:56:02 pm
PNC not shooting out the lights
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Post by: jaDEB on August 27, 2014, 08:14:13 am
Having a "Lee Evans" moment :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2014, 08:05:52 am
ASC is added to the challenge.
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Post by: Moonraker on August 28, 2014, 08:56:51 am
My RES div. in comp should be 168,35cpu. But don't worry.
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Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2014, 11:10:23 am
Was it paid incorrectly or not at all Moonraker? If it was missed it can still be added and will be paid.
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Post by: Peter01 on August 28, 2014, 11:20:25 am
KIO very low today what who will long this one?
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Post by: Luna on August 28, 2014, 11:22:24 am
RES paid 143.10 c per share which is 168.36 c per share minus 15% taxes. This makes it correct.
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Post by: Moonraker on August 28, 2014, 12:46:29 pm
@Luna - No there is no withholding tax on locally registered REITS
See also http://data.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb/sharedata/scripts/sens.asp?id=236140
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Post by: Luna on August 28, 2014, 12:55:37 pm
Yeah, saw the "tax treatment" SENS afterwards and didn't reply back. :)
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Post by: Orca on August 28, 2014, 04:05:42 pm
ADI up 9% :-)
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Post by: Nivek on August 29, 2014, 11:05:01 am
What's the reason ORCA?
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Post by: Moonraker on August 29, 2014, 12:26:32 pm
APN trading update on SENS. It's better than I thought. :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 29, 2014, 01:34:17 pm
Aspen has been a favourite of mine for some time, but I don't have apart from in the indi. Do you have?
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Post by: Moonraker on August 29, 2014, 04:05:53 pm
Yes I have :)
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Post by: Orca on August 29, 2014, 04:47:53 pm
 ;D
What's the reason ORCA?
[/“The latest financial projections for… indicates that the 2015 and 2016 profit warranties will be achieved”.]
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Post by: The Investor on September 01, 2014, 08:50:54 pm
Why does Luna have a 14 day delay on his/hers current standings?
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Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2014, 09:06:12 am
@The investor. It's an option anyone can choose in your holdings page.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2014, 11:07:53 am
With my buy high sold low policy I have nothing to hide...
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Post by: Luna on September 02, 2014, 11:09:35 am
:D
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 02, 2014, 11:14:41 am
You should try shorting jaDEB, seems you can spot them well. :-)
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Post by: The Investor on September 02, 2014, 01:08:06 pm
Thanks Patrick!
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2014, 04:52:47 pm
Gold @ 1263 :'(
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Post by: Chadb on September 02, 2014, 06:21:22 pm
:DDDD
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Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2014, 03:52:46 pm
So a couple of good days on the market and my port. value just reached my end of year target :) Clearly I don't own gold ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 03, 2014, 04:57:17 pm
Pffftttt - just increase your target - u never, ever hit your targets, never......
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Post by: jaDEB on September 05, 2014, 02:42:23 pm
See PNC is down 12%
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Post by: jaDEB on September 05, 2014, 03:10:50 pm
OCE 9% down
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Post by: Nivek on September 06, 2014, 09:37:13 am
Charges back at PNC?
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Post by: Moonraker on September 09, 2014, 10:16:38 am
The shortfall on South Africa's current account widened more than expected to 6.2% of GDP in the second quarter of the year from a shortfall of 4.5% previously, hit by prolonged strikes and lower global demand, the central bank said on Tuesday.
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Post by: gcr on September 09, 2014, 01:19:13 pm
I fear a sovereign downgrade in the not too distant future - the plat mines have said it will take 18 months to get back to where they were just prior to the strikes inflation is in its moor and the rand is heading south towards R 11 again to the dollar. Just waiting for the next big labour event to tip the scales in this country
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Post by: Moonraker on September 09, 2014, 01:25:28 pm
Quickie. 'Defensive shares' - how say in Afrikaans ??
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Post by: Moonraker on September 09, 2014, 02:22:24 pm
Got it, defensiewe aandele.
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Post by: matiespero on September 09, 2014, 03:19:54 pm
whats going on with the banks?
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Post by: MrMafia on September 10, 2014, 10:36:45 am
My cash on hand is 1.5m.  Surely that can
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Post by: MrMafia on September 10, 2014, 10:36:45 am
My cash on hand is 1.5m.  Surely that can
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Post by: MrMafia on September 10, 2014, 10:36:51 am
*can't be right
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Post by: Luna on September 10, 2014, 11:48:21 am
Somehow you managed to sell more FBR Shares than what you had. But did it affect your standing in the leaderboard? :O
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Post by: Patrick on September 10, 2014, 01:04:44 pm
I'll go check it out...
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Post by: Patrick on September 10, 2014, 01:20:06 pm
How does it look now?
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Post by: Luna on September 10, 2014, 01:25:33 pm
What do you guys think about the Telkom share price going up that much since last year May?
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Post by: Moonraker on September 10, 2014, 01:30:33 pm
APN - results confirm the good trading update. Price on the up :)
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Post by: The Investor on September 10, 2014, 02:33:46 pm
@ Luna - I am digging it :)
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Post by: Luna on September 10, 2014, 03:05:40 pm
@The Investor - I believe so....
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Post by: jaDEB on September 10, 2014, 05:01:40 pm
Yip, my buy high, sell low still in place, Sold APN bought NPN :'(
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Post by: Patrick on September 10, 2014, 05:21:13 pm
Thanks for the tip jaDEB. Guess it's time to short NPN  ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 10, 2014, 05:36:43 pm
Sies, Oom is lelik met my ....
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Post by: MrMafia on September 10, 2014, 09:38:47 pm
Thanks for the fix Patrick :)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 11, 2014, 11:24:27 am
So is SAB going to be bought?  What does that mean for our beer quality :D
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Post by: jaDEB on September 11, 2014, 12:03:05 pm
Paste link please ..
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Post by: MrMafia on September 11, 2014, 12:53:45 pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-09/ab-inbev-risks-credit-downgrade-with-sabmiller-deal-fitch-says.html
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Post by: jaDEB on September 11, 2014, 01:00:55 pm
Thanks
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Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2014, 09:13:39 am
From ABSA stockbrokers: Please Note: The JSE is experiencing technical issues this morning and are attending to them as quickly as possible. As a result the opening auction has been delayed until further notice.
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 15, 2014, 09:25:20 am
Europe trading negative
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Post by: MrMafia on September 15, 2014, 09:28:40 am
@patrick, thanks.  I wondered why my shares havent moved at all...
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Post by: Moonraker on September 15, 2014, 09:59:55 am
SAB up 4,9% on LSE ..
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Post by: jaDEB on September 15, 2014, 11:58:50 am
SAB doing better in Greece since Orca moved there :)
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Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2014, 12:19:25 pm
:))
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Post by: Moonraker on September 15, 2014, 12:56:04 pm
Intrepid Orca moved from Portugal to Greece within months ! ?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 15, 2014, 01:00:07 pm
Portugal / Greece / African Bank - all look the same to me :)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 15, 2014, 01:23:20 pm
Yep.  SAB going up as I suspected :)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 15, 2014, 01:23:58 pm
Everything else I have is just spec buy.  But I had faith in SAB :D
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Post by: Moonraker on September 15, 2014, 01:46:50 pm
It's going up because, after the failed Heineken bid, AB InBev takeover more likely.
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Post by: Orca on September 15, 2014, 08:24:10 pm
Ja. The beer here is soo good.
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Post by: MrMafia on September 15, 2014, 08:48:11 pm
Anyone got a link to all JSE listings arranged per sector?
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Post by: MrMafia on September 15, 2014, 08:48:27 pm
Wondering why its so difficult to find this? ... :/
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Post by: Umnotho Investor on September 15, 2014, 09:13:14 pm
anglo
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Post by: Umnotho Investor on September 15, 2014, 09:13:52 pm
its difficult, how to start?
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 16, 2014, 08:35:44 am
to start what?
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Post by: Luna on September 16, 2014, 08:45:59 am
JSE sectors: http://196.30.126.229/index/i_sector.htm
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Post by: jaDEB on September 16, 2014, 09:23:21 am
To Start the day ... :)
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Post by: Patrick on September 16, 2014, 09:38:51 am
So what will SAB do today...?
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Post by: MrMafia on September 16, 2014, 09:49:18 am
@Luna you are a champion thank you!
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Post by: MrMafia on September 16, 2014, 09:49:45 am
So clovers financials didnt look great this morn, cant say Im surprised with the drop...
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Post by: jaDEB on September 16, 2014, 12:47:24 pm
Why is Telkom down so much ? Divvie ?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 16, 2014, 04:50:27 pm
jaDEB it is Tuesday as doubts crept in about a turnaround plan that has seen the stock double in value this year
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 16, 2014, 04:53:00 pm
New CFO yesterday?
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Post by: Luna on September 16, 2014, 05:07:59 pm
The fact that it is going up is more surprising than it going down.
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Post by: giggsie on September 16, 2014, 05:11:54 pm
It hink someone is happy they regained the top spot! @Luna
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Post by: Luna on September 16, 2014, 05:13:25 pm
Hehe maybe :P
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Post by: MrMafia on September 16, 2014, 05:13:45 pm
Now that PNC investigation over you think it will climb again?
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Post by: Luna on September 16, 2014, 05:21:43 pm
I think it will go up in the long-term. It will take some time for people to regain confidence in the company. But to be honest, if there was no bribery, the current price might look like a big discount.
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Post by: Luna on September 16, 2014, 05:22:19 pm
No bribery case* (as if it never happened)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 17, 2014, 09:39:29 am
Agree.  Its worth a good look again :)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 17, 2014, 09:49:29 am
What is so great about EOH?
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on September 17, 2014, 02:26:19 pm
The astoundingly great leadership and endless opportunity scope?  :TU:
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Post by: MrMafia on September 17, 2014, 04:15:25 pm
For reals? :) But their basic fundamentals look aweful to me.  Though I'm an absolute beginner
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Post by: gcr on September 17, 2014, 11:16:09 pm
Haven't seen any postings by Orca lately - how is he settling in overseas
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 09:27:50 am
Yes, he is not posting as often, but does come online every now and then..
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Post by: Patrick on September 18, 2014, 09:44:41 am
His profile says he was around this morning, maybe his wifi is lousy on the beach!
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Post by: Peter01 on September 18, 2014, 09:52:23 am
Hi Guys, will anyone short CFR?
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Post by: Moonraker on September 18, 2014, 09:56:28 am
Got it right past 2 x. Let's see this time. ¼% up for repo.
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Post by: MrMafia on September 18, 2014, 10:41:47 am
I'd have more luck shorting everything I buy.  I touch a share and it drops :D
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Post by: MrMafia on September 18, 2014, 10:42:34 am
Let's confuse fate.  Tell me what share you want to short, I buy, then we split profits
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Post by: MrMafia on September 18, 2014, 10:48:38 am
Would it be worth putting anything into Aspen?  They never drop
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Post by: Peter01 on September 18, 2014, 11:28:41 am
Thinking og a WHL long so go short there, cant go wrong then.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 02:43:32 pm
APN just brought out good results. Does look good long term. Note lot of income from outside RSA, thus rand strenght could bring it down some (bit)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 04:55:55 pm
NPN :)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 18, 2014, 05:19:47 pm
Are they not in div-ex?
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Post by: MrMafia on September 18, 2014, 05:20:36 pm
Is it good to buy just after div-ex?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 05:45:46 pm
NPN or APN ?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 05:54:09 pm
NPN
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 06:11:18 pm
NPN The last date to trade cum dividend will be Friday 12 September 425c
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 06:12:43 pm
Pos No 4 on DarkSide :)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 06:19:42 pm
Nice jaDEB :)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 18, 2014, 06:38:17 pm
jaDEB here u are 346th ... knobb :'(
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Post by: MrMafia on September 19, 2014, 09:56:24 am
SHF looks good :), wow and my MTN has taken a jump
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Post by: Moonraker on September 19, 2014, 09:58:27 am
JaDEB, DarkSide has no status here :) :)
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Post by: giggsie on September 19, 2014, 10:13:43 am
Sold MIX too soon :(
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Post by: MrMafia on September 19, 2014, 10:14:26 am
You chop :)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 19, 2014, 10:15:16 am
PNC looking better today as well so far.  Hope it holds
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Post by: jaDEB on September 19, 2014, 10:16:02 am
The voices in my head is from the Darkside :)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 19, 2014, 10:16:36 am
PS. NPN upgraded by broker :)
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Post by: giggsie on September 19, 2014, 10:17:50 am
Yeah, I am watching them as well, was thinking of getting in @ 1200 yesterday but was waiting for it to slip more
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Post by: Patrick on September 19, 2014, 10:49:40 am
My only concern with NPN is on the DSTV front. I see streaming taking a chunk of their business in future and they don't seem to have a strategy in place to fight that.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 19, 2014, 11:49:43 am
They own M-web ? correct ?
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Post by: Luna on September 19, 2014, 12:42:43 pm
:D
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Post by: jaDEB on September 19, 2014, 02:30:06 pm
U does well Luna .. :)
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Post by: Luna on September 19, 2014, 02:54:38 pm
Seems like it :P
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Post by: MrMafia on September 22, 2014, 09:50:45 am
Why would sum1 sell less than 10 shares?  Just to drop the price?
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Post by: Patrick on September 22, 2014, 10:15:31 am
I've seen it happen a few times, specially with shares that aren't traded often. All I can think is that they are competing in a challenge like this and want to manipulate the prices. Which share was this?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 22, 2014, 10:33:22 am
No, u sold all your shares except 10, thus u just sell them at lower price. I did it once with Sage shares, put it in the top movers of the day.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 22, 2014, 10:35:06 am
Still have the newspaper cut out, pushed it up 38%. Bought and last couple of shares was much higher, but did not do much to my average.
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Post by: MrMafia on September 22, 2014, 10:44:54 am
It was PNC.  I spotted a volume of 5 traded earlier this morning
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Post by: MrMafia on September 22, 2014, 10:45:10 am
And the price has been jumping a lot today :)
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Post by: Peter01 on September 22, 2014, 11:17:15 am
to late for a short on KIO?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 22, 2014, 11:19:43 am
Any1 following Alibaba ?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 22, 2014, 12:23:22 pm
Not the Genie, but the IPO ?
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Post by: Patrick on September 22, 2014, 05:40:31 pm
Jack Ma is now the richest man in China. I quite like this piece on him:
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Ma, now China's richest man, said he takes inspiration from Forrest Gump. And based on a 2010 interview with Charlie Rose, Ma's view on wealth is indeed Gump-like. "If you have a couple of million, you're a rich guy," Ma said. "We have $10 million to $20 million, it's capital. Over $100 million, that's social resources. That's society giving it to you saying: 'you guys run it.' So it's not my money. I don't think I can spend it. I can only sleep in one bed. I can only eat three dinners. That's all. What is money for?"

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26568972/biz-break-alibaba-apple-ellison-play-who-wants
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Post by: jaDEB on September 22, 2014, 06:23:42 pm
OCE :)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 23, 2014, 09:04:31 am
Me thinks there will be nice buying Opportunities coming up .. where is MoneyPenny
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Post by: jaDEB on September 23, 2014, 10:00:03 am
KIO :'(
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Post by: MrMafia on September 23, 2014, 10:05:25 am
The whole JSE seems to be dropping.  Any chance for a turnaround?
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on September 23, 2014, 11:00:18 am
Russia. -_-
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Post by: Orca on September 23, 2014, 11:16:59 am
Overdone.
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Post by: Patrick on September 23, 2014, 02:41:53 pm
Welcome back Orca, how's Portugal treating you?
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Post by: Orca on September 23, 2014, 10:37:02 pm
Great. Will update my "blog".
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Post by: gcr on September 24, 2014, 09:37:29 pm
Patrick - how is your system going to handle the Woolworths nil paid letters, can we take up to, what we have as a balance in our accouts?
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Post by: Patrick on September 25, 2014, 11:32:01 am
I haven't followed woolworths, so I'll need a brief description and also some recommendations.
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Post by: gcr on September 25, 2014, 02:07:23 pm
If you look at the WHL sens it spells out the deal, but, in essence shareholders have been allocated NPL which had to be taken up last Friday or the letters lapsed. I hold WHL in my private portfolio and have taken up my shares as they are priced at a discount to current trading prices (Price is R 60 and some change per share) so once they list these shares they will ranks with the current ordinary shares. One can expect the price of WHL to drop a bit as there will be more shares in circulation but I think it is already in the price as they are trading at about R 71.00
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Post by: Patrick on September 25, 2014, 02:44:11 pm
Great, I'll find the sens. Generally with rights issues, we force all holders to take them here, even if it puts their cash into a negative. I think the same should be done in this situation.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 25, 2014, 04:40:13 pm
OCE :'(
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Post by: gcr on September 26, 2014, 10:26:35 am
Agree that they should be taken up
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Post by: Patrick on September 26, 2014, 11:32:54 am
What's up with the market today? I bought STXIND at R59.72 yesterday sigh!
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Post by: gcr on September 26, 2014, 03:49:35 pm
Personally I would sit on the side lines for the next few days to a week and then buy on dips - if you have spare cash. Sometime in mid October our new finance minister is going to tell us how bad the financial system is in RSA and how much the state has borrowed and also how it is going to avoid a sovereign downgrade - this unfortunately will happen and the Rand will weaken once again - why we may even see R 11.75 to R 12.00 to the dollar
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Post by: Luna on September 29, 2014, 09:31:02 am
I agree
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Post by: jaDEB on September 29, 2014, 03:48:18 pm
Here we go again - Dow down .8%
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Post by: jaDEB on September 29, 2014, 03:48:52 pm
0.8 % incase some1 reading wrong
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Post by: jaDEB on September 29, 2014, 04:33:17 pm
Mr Bond, are u reading Dark Side....
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Post by: Moonraker on September 29, 2014, 04:37:55 pm
Some. See my comments your Buying Opportunities thread. Plus now we have Hong Kong. Very concerning.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 29, 2014, 04:46:43 pm
Did see ur comment, thks. Darkside is kinda mud slinging now, more like YOU magazine...
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Post by: Nivek on September 30, 2014, 08:31:40 am
More downside today? Where is MP when we're riding the rollercoaster?
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 30, 2014, 08:42:17 am
Hallo munchkins, hope you're doing okay. ;-)
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 30, 2014, 08:43:46 am
Haven't been visiting darkside in ages, always the same characters acting up.  
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 30, 2014, 08:44:51 am
YOU magazine, hehe!
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 30, 2014, 08:47:10 am
T40 @ -0.09% and going down atm
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Post by: jaDEB on September 30, 2014, 09:27:42 am
:) u back
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Post by: FransH on September 30, 2014, 11:49:20 am
hot damn ACG  ;D
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Post by: Moonraker on September 30, 2014, 12:12:57 pm
My Glencore have zero value in Leaderboard. Result dropped from high teens to 79. WTF.
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Post by: Moonraker on September 30, 2014, 06:54:17 pm
Thanks to whoever sorted it :)
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on October 01, 2014, 03:44:44 pm
zed
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on October 01, 2014, 03:48:31 pm
Oops sorry bout that :S Any ideas of who's buying BLU?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 01, 2014, 04:32:19 pm
No idea, did see CAUTIONARY ANNOUNCEMENT
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Post by: gcr on October 01, 2014, 10:11:22 pm
Great, I'll find the sens. Generally with rights issues, we force all holders to take them here, even if it puts their cash into a negative. I think the same should be done in this situation.
Hi Patrick - when will you be addressing this matter - looking at my personal portfolio they allocated my NPL and debited me 26/09/2014 for the shares as I exercised my option to take up the shares. In this "game" I too wish to take up my letters - my investor challenge account can be debited - Thanks
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Post by: jaDEB on October 02, 2014, 08:07:52 am
Red hanger sale today ?
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Post by: Patrick on October 02, 2014, 08:30:04 am
Hi Patrick - when will you be addressing this matter - looking at my personal portfolio they allocated my NPL and debited me 26/09/2014 for the shares as I exercised my option to take up the shares. In this "game" I too wish to take up my letters - my investor challenge account can be debited - Thanks

Hi Graham, just to make sure I understood the sens. It's 22 new shares for every 100 held on the 12 September, at a cost of R59.50 per share. Correct?

http://woolies.hosted.inet.co.za/news/story/26aa1abf-35d6-440c-b92f-411b4e8a1e9e
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Post by: jaDEB on October 02, 2014, 08:32:06 am
The darkside is Hysterical funny
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Post by: jaDEB on October 02, 2014, 11:38:53 am
Which andriod apps u using? I use sharenet & Bloomberg. Any1 better?
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 02, 2014, 01:41:28 pm
Ja jaDEB, hysteria with a touch of neurotic can become very creepy very quickly.  :D
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Post by: gcr on October 02, 2014, 01:54:01 pm
Hi Patrick - when will you be addressing this matter - looking at my personal portfolio they allocated my NPL and debited me 26/09/2014 for the shares as I exercised my option to take up the shares. In this "game" I too wish to take up my letters - my investor challenge account can be debited - Thanks

Hi Graham, just to make sure I understood the sens. It's 22 new shares for every 100 held on the 12 September, at a cost of R59.50 per share. Correct?

http://woolies.hosted.inet.co.za/news/story/26aa1abf-35d6-440c-b92f-411b4e8a1e9e
Quite correct Patrick
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Post by: jaDEB on October 02, 2014, 05:38:08 pm
NPN :'(
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Post by: Orca on October 02, 2014, 05:56:56 pm
JSE, NYSE, NASDAQ, FTSI, : (
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Post by: jaDEB on October 02, 2014, 06:36:30 pm
Ja, :'( , time to take my tablets again
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Post by: jaDEB on October 02, 2014, 06:49:16 pm
Does NPN sell iron ore? frikkin looks like it .... !!!
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Post by: jaDEB on October 03, 2014, 12:14:40 pm
NPN :)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 03, 2014, 02:38:33 pm
Gold below 1200 :'(
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Post by: Moonraker on October 03, 2014, 03:15:17 pm
The U.S. jobless rate declined to a six-year low of 5.9 percent in September and employers added 248,000 in payrolls, followed a 180,000 August increase that was bigger than previously estimated. The median forecast in a Bloomberg survey=215,000
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Post by: Shi on October 05, 2014, 11:40:46 pm
rate hike quicker than you think for US then?
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Post by: gcr on October 06, 2014, 09:32:52 am
Hi Patrick - when will you be addressing this matter - looking at my personal portfolio they allocated my NPL and debited me 26/09/2014 for the shares as I exercised my option to take up the shares. In this "game" I too wish to take up my letters - my investor challenge account can be debited - Thanks

Hi Graham, just to make sure I understood the sens. It's 22 new shares for every 100 held on the 12 September, at a cost of R59.50 per share. Correct?

http://woolies.hosted.inet.co.za/news/story/26aa1abf-35d6-440c-b92f-411b4e8a1e9e
Quite correct Patrick

Thanks for sorting this out Patrick 8)
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Post by: Pdpshares on October 07, 2014, 05:40:02 pm
Hi Patrick, I owned VIVIDEND and now showing ZERO value after the buyout. This should be adjusted for in my holdings. Please review. pdpshares
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Post by: jaDEB on October 08, 2014, 09:08:55 am
What does “Grandfathered: Yes” mean? on preservation plan (Pension)
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Post by: Orca on October 08, 2014, 12:55:49 pm
Never heard of that word.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 08, 2014, 01:41:31 pm
Got mail from OM - Regulation 28 of the Pension Funds Act of 1956 sets out the investment principles and asset limits
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Post by: Patrick on October 09, 2014, 12:09:44 pm
@pdp, link to a sens announcement or news page please
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Post by: Moonraker on October 10, 2014, 01:48:27 pm
Have you noticed ? REITS seem to be least affected. Most unchanged - some (RES) even up.
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Post by: Patrick on October 10, 2014, 02:54:48 pm
What are your thoughts on the reasons for that moon?
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 10, 2014, 02:56:09 pm
What's up with Assore, up 6.56%?
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Post by: Moonraker on October 10, 2014, 03:53:48 pm
@ Patrick - see under the market crash thread.
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 13, 2014, 08:47:47 am
T40 – 0.94% now –397 points, 41 564
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Post by: Patrick on October 13, 2014, 09:43:07 am
And dropping! As much as I know it's not a real loss unless I sell, it's no fun watching...
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 13, 2014, 02:58:00 pm
T40 up 70% @ 42 250, US futures green +0.4%, +0.3% +0.2%, Opening in 30 minutes.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 13, 2014, 04:12:50 pm
T40 up 70% ?
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Post by: Patrick on October 13, 2014, 04:47:18 pm
Haha if only. I'd be retiring right away with a 70% increase :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 13, 2014, 04:50:25 pm
Hehe, yes didn't you see it, whats wrong with you?  And just because you're snooty with me, I'm changing it to +0.39% now.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 13, 2014, 05:03:31 pm
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 14, 2014, 12:14:54 pm
Here we go again :'(
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Post by: Orca on October 14, 2014, 12:46:22 pm
Makes me wonder if this is stupid or clever money exiting.
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Post by: Orca on October 14, 2014, 12:48:01 pm
If it is clever money, we can expect much more red.
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Post by: Bevan on October 14, 2014, 05:15:43 pm
I reckon the rest of this week is green. It's next week I'm worried about.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 14, 2014, 05:32:17 pm
As long as this week is not neg, and next week is neg.
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 14, 2014, 07:19:21 pm
@jaDEB:  Why?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 15, 2014, 12:08:42 am
1 positive week, then 1 neg week is better than having 2 negative weeks I suppose?
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Post by: Moonraker on October 15, 2014, 01:46:43 pm
Measured in real terms (constant 2012 prices), retail trade sales increased by 2,1% year-on-year in August 2014. The highest annual growth rates were recorded for: retailers in hardware, paint and glass
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Post by: Moonraker on October 15, 2014, 02:52:32 pm
U.S. September Retail Sales Fall 0.3%; Excluding Autos Drop 0.2%....Ah... that's why the sudden $ weakness.
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 15, 2014, 04:06:11 pm
T40 -2.17%, FTSE -2.05%, DACs -2.15%
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Post by: jaDEB on October 15, 2014, 05:02:38 pm
Eina
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Post by: Luna on October 15, 2014, 05:21:34 pm
Jip... hectic
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 15, 2014, 06:54:43 pm
Dow -2.23%, Nas -1.99%, S&P -2.27%, Gold +0.62%
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Post by: jaDEB on October 16, 2014, 08:19:19 am
Pick & Pay - Nice - Basic earnings per share          26.72 cents         19.86 cents        34.5
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Post by: Orca on October 16, 2014, 10:51:07 am
ALSI PE was too high at 19. What is it now? 17?
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Post by: Moonraker on October 16, 2014, 01:06:31 pm
16,3 per Simon Brown. http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-safm-market-update/guest-market-watcher-simon-brown--justonelap-11
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Post by: Moonraker on October 16, 2014, 03:11:16 pm
U.S. Jobless Claims Fall to 264K (expected 290K)
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Post by: Moonraker on October 16, 2014, 03:46:06 pm
Manufacturing production, which had dropped 0.5 percent in August, advanced by 0.5 percent in September. Expected 0.3%
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Post by: Moonraker on October 17, 2014, 03:04:21 pm
US. Housing starts climbed 6.3% to a 1.02 million annualized rate from 957,000 in August. Expected 1 million.
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Post by: Patrick on October 17, 2014, 04:38:18 pm
Do you think the panic is over then moonraker?
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Post by: Moonraker on October 17, 2014, 06:53:07 pm
No. If ratings downgrade 10%+; If not 5%+. Watch socialist EU - deflation and stimulus exhausted.
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Post by: Moonraker on October 17, 2014, 06:54:57 pm
Also - watch mini budget Wednesday.
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 20, 2014, 09:11:46 am
Fizzled out quickly, back into negative territory, same with Europe.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 21, 2014, 04:55:47 pm
:)
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Post by: Patrick on October 21, 2014, 08:53:39 pm
Too soon, I only have money to buy more on Friday
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Post by: Moonraker on October 23, 2014, 09:59:35 am
Germany October Manufacturing PMI Rises to 51.8, Beating Forecast of 49.5
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 23, 2014, 09:02:59 pm
Wall Street +236 points.
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 23, 2014, 09:13:44 pm
HMY US -1.79%, SHF US -4.28%, Atlatsa US +9%
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Post by: jaDEB on October 24, 2014, 09:42:23 am
U.S. stock futures tumble on reports of NY Ebola case
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Post by: jaDEB on October 27, 2014, 11:47:56 am
U.S. economy on track for its best growth in 9 years
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Post by: jaDEB on October 29, 2014, 11:45:28 am
NPN :)
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Post by: Orca on October 29, 2014, 02:18:33 pm
Adapt It :)
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Post by: Orca on October 30, 2014, 11:01:29 am
ADI again :)
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Post by: Orca on October 30, 2014, 11:33:45 am
And MTA again :)
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Post by: Moonraker on October 31, 2014, 12:53:17 pm
And MTA - Not :) And APN, and... goeie genade :)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 31, 2014, 01:15:19 pm
NPN :)
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Post by: Orca on October 31, 2014, 02:02:29 pm
MTA and ADI again. Goeie genade :)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 31, 2014, 02:13:16 pm
To quote my mom "van lekker gelag kom lekker gehuil"
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Post by: jaDEB on October 31, 2014, 02:24:32 pm
Gold :'(
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Post by: Moonraker on October 31, 2014, 02:27:54 pm
My Aarde ! Dis 'n dag duisend ! Dankie VSA, dankie BOJ.
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Post by: Patrick on October 31, 2014, 05:21:17 pm
My holdings took a big leap too. Thanks Mr Indi, smiling that I bought some at 56.80 and some more at 57.50 in the last month :)
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on November 01, 2014, 04:50:52 pm
wow i'm @ number 3..   i hope i stay there :)
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Post by: gcr on November 03, 2014, 09:33:35 am
Are the share prices not supposed to update every 15 minutes - some don't seem to show todays prices BVT
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Post by: jaDEB on November 03, 2014, 10:32:51 am
jaDEB = Buying high when greed sets in and selling low when fear develops is a common theme in investing
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Post by: gcr on November 03, 2014, 11:09:25 am
jaDEB = Buying high when greed sets in and selling low when fear develops is a common theme in investing
Not true of the real investor - more a result of someone not knowing the market comprehensively enough
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Post by: Nios on November 04, 2014, 08:58:58 pm
@Patrick what happened to PNC? My holdings show 0 and no longer on the share list.
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Post by: Patrick on November 05, 2014, 12:56:03 pm
@Nios, it sometimes happens late at night that the bloomberg link throws out some zeros. It fixes itself by morning so I don't worry about it. To stop people buying free shares there's a restriction in place.
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Post by: Nios on November 05, 2014, 06:38:49 pm
thanks Patrick
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Post by: jaDEB on November 06, 2014, 04:35:48 pm
OCE :)
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Post by: Patrick on November 06, 2014, 04:40:22 pm
6% up, nice. What happened?
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Post by: jaDEB on November 06, 2014, 04:54:52 pm
Results out
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Post by: jaDEB on November 06, 2014, 04:55:08 pm
HEADLINE EARNINGS PER SHARE INCREASE BY 16 %
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Post by: jaDEB on November 06, 2014, 04:55:25 pm
DIVIDENDS PER SHARE INCREASE BY 17 %
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Post by: jaDEB on November 07, 2014, 12:24:16 pm
Hey jaDEB
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Post by: jaDEB on November 07, 2014, 12:24:34 pm
Hello u...how are you
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Post by: jaDEB on November 07, 2014, 12:24:55 pm
Good and you ?
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Post by: jaDEB on November 07, 2014, 12:25:31 pm
good thanks
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Post by: Orca on November 07, 2014, 01:23:20 pm
Time for your tablets jaDEB.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 07, 2014, 01:50:00 pm
yes. lol. was feeling lonesome...nobody here :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on November 10, 2014, 02:41:03 pm
Vodacom ... down 5%
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Post by: Patrick on November 10, 2014, 04:48:45 pm
I'm in the absolute middle of nowhere this week...
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Post by: jaDEB on November 10, 2014, 05:26:42 pm
u in Brakpan ?
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Post by: Patrick on November 11, 2014, 09:12:50 am
Haha, brakpan would be fun. I'm in a tiny town called Ambovombe. We've just has a water delivery by by cow cart!
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Post by: jaDEB on November 11, 2014, 09:16:33 am
close to u is Madagascar, Ambatovy is a world-class, large tonnage nickel project
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 11, 2014, 09:38:03 am
@P:  Sneak out through sugar cane fields after dark and visit coastal  resorts :-)
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Post by: Patrick on November 11, 2014, 10:59:05 am
I'm hoping to spend friday in Fort Dauphin... Paradise!
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Post by: Orca on November 11, 2014, 11:16:51 pm
Must brag. MTA and ADI shot me over 180 participants in 10 days.
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Post by: Orca on November 11, 2014, 11:38:11 pm
Fear index up big time. This is great. Buy everything.
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Post by: Orca on November 11, 2014, 11:39:12 pm
Nobody here. Sniff sniff.
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Post by: Nivek on November 12, 2014, 07:38:12 am
Hi Orca, nice moving, has it also helped your real life portfolio?
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Post by: Patrick on November 12, 2014, 03:12:22 pm
Anyone care to weigh in on CMLs 4% jump today?
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Post by: Orca on November 12, 2014, 03:54:43 pm
Yes Nivek, I have the same stocks in my real portfolio.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 12, 2014, 04:53:44 pm
Why is my NPN down :'(
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Post by: Orca on November 12, 2014, 05:15:10 pm
CML - Maybe institutional investors climbing in after digesting yesterdays results. Strong volumes today.
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Post by: Moonraker on November 12, 2014, 06:27:38 pm
@JaDEB Tencent Holdings Ltd. (700) reported third-quarter profit that missed analyst estimates after the Chinese Internet company’s revenue gained at the slowest pace since 2007 and development and staff costs increased.
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Post by: Moonraker on November 12, 2014, 06:28:16 pm
@JaDEB http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-12/tencent-quarterly-profit-misses-estimates-as-costs-climb.html
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Post by: jaDEB on November 13, 2014, 08:11:00 am
Thks Mr Bond
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Post by: jaDEB on November 13, 2014, 08:30:36 am
Seeming 10c is recovering. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on November 13, 2014, 10:18:44 am
So is NPN :)
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Post by: gcr on November 13, 2014, 11:42:31 am
This is not a boast but merely an indication of the volatility of the market and how quickly it can change. Using my personal portfolio and a base value at 27th October by close of business yesterday the paper value of my portfolio has grown by just over R 179,000. The ALSI hasn't hit an all time in fact it is still off its high by about 1,800 points, yet my portfolio is at an all time high. So sometimes it pays to sit and wait out corrections rather than sell into a falling market
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Post by: Orca on November 13, 2014, 12:14:57 pm
 Welll done. I aim to beat my benchmark STXIND after my big loss with PNC.  Was 210 positions below 10 days ago. Now in my xhairs at at only 10.
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 13, 2014, 04:44:40 pm
@G: Nice
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Post by: jaDEB on November 14, 2014, 10:50:19 am
NPN ? Mr Bond up 7%
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Post by: jaDEB on November 14, 2014, 11:20:03 am
ANy1 have idea NPN - check value traded
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Post by: Moonraker on November 14, 2014, 12:13:12 pm
NPN - Good stuff J.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 14, 2014, 12:24:40 pm
Thks Mr Bond
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Post by: Moonraker on November 14, 2014, 02:30:12 pm
NPN will join forces with Singapore Press Holdings to accelerate its e-commerce business in emerging markets. This is part of a strategy to reinvent itself for mobile devices.News of the deal sent shares of Naspers up as much as 7 %
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Post by: InvestKing on November 14, 2014, 05:23:02 pm
sab
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 17, 2014, 10:39:35 am
Commodities, in particular gold, in vogue today. Gold Index 5.67%, Plat Index 2.59%

ANG   8.35
VIL   5.26
HAR   5.24
GFI   3.31
SGL   2.66
NHM   2.41
AMS   2.26
EXX   2.25
IMP   2.01
CZA   1.92
GLD   1.65
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Post by: Moonraker on November 18, 2014, 09:41:03 am
Electricity From Fuel Cells Sparking Demand for Platinum http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-18/electricity-from-fuel-cells-sparking-demand-for-platinum-energy.html
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on November 18, 2014, 10:20:36 am
Interesting, I believe one of the big mining companies has been funding studies using platinum as a catalyst where alternatives exist... Also BCX seem to be right in there with disruptive fuel cell technology. I'm not sure about how achievable the price of a unit can get though. Localised DC grids FTW  :TU:
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Post by: Moonraker on November 20, 2014, 12:02:22 pm
Euro-Area November Manufacturing PMI Falls to 50.4 Compared with Forecast of 50.8
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 20, 2014, 04:06:58 pm
Oeh-eh-eh!  -835 pips now on T40
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Post by: Bloodburner9000 on November 24, 2014, 02:48:42 pm
my "ALLIED ELECTRONICS CORP " reports zero price, anyone knows whats up with that?
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Post by: Patrick on November 24, 2014, 03:59:49 pm
I'll go check it out...
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Post by: Bloodburner9000 on November 24, 2014, 08:20:11 pm
Thanks Patrick
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Post by: jaDEB on November 25, 2014, 07:32:43 am
NPN Results out
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Post by: Patrick on November 25, 2014, 07:42:27 am
ATN is now AEL, the price will fix itself after 9am sometime.
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Post by: Moonraker on November 25, 2014, 09:37:39 am
What's with Brait ? Market not liking the Steinhoff deal ? http://data.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb/sharedata/scripts/sens.asp?id=242140
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Post by: jaDEB on November 25, 2014, 09:38:29 am
Why is Omnia down?
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Post by: jaDEB on November 25, 2014, 10:32:56 am
kk - Omnia Basic earnings per share down 4,9% to 606,0 cents per share
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Post by: Patrick on November 25, 2014, 12:40:00 pm
They're now back to August 2013 levels, not looking nearly as good as they did in 2012 and 2013.
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 25, 2014, 02:18:13 pm
My Telkom ADSL acting up again, be back when I can. :(
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Post by: jaDEB on November 25, 2014, 03:13:13 pm
Got the new R212 R wifi thingy from Vodacom - nice works like a bomb on my online games :)
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Post by: Patrick on November 25, 2014, 05:55:21 pm
Link please jadeb
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2014, 08:11:41 am
http://www.vodacom.co.za/vodacom/shopping/g-connect-wifi
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2014, 08:13:18 am
@ P, I took the 5 Gig option R212 Z had to for my Call of Duty Advanced warfare
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Post by: Patrick on November 26, 2014, 11:34:23 am
Great, thanks jaDEB. Sounds like a good deal, I'll go check it out.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2014, 11:37:11 am
Also just check if u have 4G coverage
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Post by: Patrick on November 26, 2014, 02:21:01 pm
Will do. I'm busy preparing my house for selling. Too much money and too much time is vanishing!
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2014, 02:31:04 pm
Check if a "wife" is walking around house. Normally uses time and money, upgrade to newer model :)
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Post by: Hamster on November 27, 2014, 06:01:38 am
Will do. I'm busy preparing my house for selling. Too much money and too much time is vanishing!
You buying another one with less maintenance or renting after the sale?
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Post by: The Investor on November 27, 2014, 01:20:02 pm
Where is the button I need to press so my money is paid in to my account? :)
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Post by: Patrick on November 27, 2014, 02:39:06 pm
Will do. I'm busy preparing my house for selling. Too much money and too much time is vanishing!
You buying another one with less maintenance or renting after the sale?

It'll be many years before I even think of owning another place.  As I said in that blog post about houses, I don't want to be tied to one location, and I don't want the huge expense!
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Post by: Trader1 on November 27, 2014, 03:27:30 pm
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Post by: jaDEB on November 27, 2014, 03:38:24 pm
Swiss voters will head to the polls to vote on a controversial measure that could lift global gold prices
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Post by: jaDEB on November 28, 2014, 11:50:19 am
Is Sasol part of Black Friday Sale?
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Post by: Orca on November 28, 2014, 02:32:23 pm
No. Nor is SAB. :(
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Post by: jaDEB on November 28, 2014, 02:47:36 pm
Orca, I am talking about share price not beers....do the sell castle by you?
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Post by: Orca on November 28, 2014, 06:21:57 pm
No, but we do get good Superbok beer. I prefer the wine here because it costs €0,69 for 1 ltr vs €1,40 for a small can of coke.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 01, 2014, 09:26:29 am
:'(
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Post by: jaDEB on December 01, 2014, 10:33:29 am
Is EFF visiting JSE Today .....
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Post by: nkeyser on December 02, 2014, 06:57:32 am
abl
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Post by: jaDEB on December 02, 2014, 05:00:48 pm
NPN :)
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Post by: Orca on December 02, 2014, 10:08:58 pm
Just found an App that gets me to listen to my favourite Cape Town radio channel here in Portugal. Very nostalgic.
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Post by: Orca on December 02, 2014, 10:24:00 pm
Tried to go to Spain but there is a railway strike.
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Post by: Orca on December 02, 2014, 10:24:50 pm
 Strikes are also nostalgic.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 03, 2014, 07:42:03 am
:)
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Post by: Patrick on December 03, 2014, 10:56:03 am
lol
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Post by: Orca on December 04, 2014, 09:14:30 pm
Patrick. My website is not updating. No post seen today.
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Post by: Jaymeb on December 05, 2014, 02:27:46 pm
arican bank
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Post by: The Investor on December 05, 2014, 10:09:26 pm
Didn't see that coming...a real anti climax
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Post by: ActivateD on December 07, 2014, 05:45:15 pm
pep
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Post by: jaDEB on December 08, 2014, 06:02:00 pm
Rant is load shedding :'( R11.56 to USD
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Post by: Patrick on December 09, 2014, 11:09:18 am
And I'm planning on going out of sa for the holidays :(
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Post by: jaDEB on December 09, 2014, 03:21:19 pm
I will go to Brakpan, not even Eskom will dare load shedding Brakpan.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 09, 2014, 03:22:20 pm
Gold :)
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Post by: jaDEB on December 09, 2014, 05:44:33 pm
NPN :'( and talking to myself
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Post by: Orca on December 10, 2014, 12:00:25 am
Strange as the other site is just as quiet.
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Post by: Orca on December 10, 2014, 12:07:30 am
Sorry if I woke you guys. Time diffs and stuff.
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on December 10, 2014, 06:40:55 am
@Patrick, lol, book your forex before it gets even worse
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Post by: Patrick on December 10, 2014, 10:14:33 am
All my sites are quiet at the moment... And at the office, everyone is on youtube, so internet is painfully slow too!
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Post by: Patrick on December 12, 2014, 11:16:11 am
Wondering if Imran will be able to get to 100% by the 24th...
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Post by: jaDEB on December 12, 2014, 01:44:31 pm
Huh?
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Post by: letlhogonolo on December 12, 2014, 02:49:54 pm
Does that mean trading is >>> investing
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Post by: The Investor on December 14, 2014, 06:17:03 pm
Let me say this...I would much rather have lost to Luna, just because we've had such a cool contest. BUT, credit is due where it is due - so to Imran, well done man. Unless something hectic happens looks like you've got it in the bag :)
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Post by: jaDEB on December 15, 2014, 08:07:12 am
Some good SA Inc news.. we own Miss World..awesome
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Post by: Patrick on December 15, 2014, 09:09:48 am
Yes I saw that while I was busy trying to block 200 new scammers on the site this weekend. Seems they figured out how to get past my challenge question...
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Post by: Orca on December 15, 2014, 10:42:01 pm
SARS debarcale might just be the demise of the ZAR. Foreign money exit.
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Post by: Orca on December 15, 2014, 10:43:05 pm
Perhaps this is why CML is going down.
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Post by: Patrick on December 17, 2014, 07:51:43 am
One week to go for the challenge...
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Post by: jaDEB on December 18, 2014, 12:08:58 pm
NPN :)
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Post by: Orca on December 18, 2014, 03:20:22 pm
JSE. :) Fear Index :(
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Post by: Patrick on December 25, 2014, 06:32:57 pm
Thanks for playing everyone, the database for 2014 has been backed up. I'll put it in a separate link soon. Any transactions or changes in share prices from here on won't count. There will be an official announcement soon. Next year we'll open the 2015 challenge on the 5th :)
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Post by: letlhogonolo on December 25, 2014, 11:12:20 pm
top 10 woohoo
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Post by: Imran on December 26, 2014, 01:24:52 am
0.06% short of a 100, sigh...
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Post by: NakedPeanut on December 30, 2014, 10:01:56 am
Ah was a miserable year for me.. not even 3% :'(
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Post by: Delusionsofgrandeur on December 30, 2014, 01:23:38 pm
Why is this site so quiet lately?Is everyone quietly buying gold?
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Post by: jaDEB on December 31, 2014, 09:47:35 am
Just taking a break. All the best for 2015 to u all.
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Post by: gcr on December 31, 2014, 10:08:55 am
Markets going nowhere - funds managers squaring off books
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Post by: Patrick on December 31, 2014, 10:55:40 am
I'm on holiday with a 1.5km walk to get internet.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 31, 2014, 02:13:48 pm
Pfftt..just get a long cable...u IT okes
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Post by: gcr on January 02, 2015, 09:23:07 am
Are we running a similar comp in 2015 - if so where's the money
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Post by: jay8mac on January 04, 2015, 04:43:51 pm
calgro
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Post by: jay8mac on January 04, 2015, 04:46:33 pm
ellies holdings
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Post by: Patrick on January 05, 2015, 07:12:57 pm
@gcr, we are. It starts on Monday!
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Post by: giggsie on January 06, 2015, 10:29:54 am
2014 results are showing the current leader board... i think there is a glitch in the Matrix!!!!!
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Post by: jay8mac on January 06, 2015, 12:29:21 pm
naspers
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Post by: jaDEB on January 06, 2015, 04:35:15 pm
Yes Naspers :)
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Post by: chang9015 on January 06, 2015, 06:19:06 pm
calgro
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Post by: jaDEB on January 07, 2015, 10:06:35 am
Gold lookin good?
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Post by: MrMafia on January 07, 2015, 10:09:24 am
Naspers?
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Post by: Patrick on January 07, 2015, 10:19:37 am
I'll check out the matrix glitch tonight.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 07, 2015, 10:27:55 am
MrMafia check Sandbox
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Post by: jay8mac on January 07, 2015, 11:46:14 am
whats sandbox?
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Post by: MrMafia on January 07, 2015, 01:39:40 pm
jay8 its a forum thread called pulverised sandbox.  jaDEB thanks! :)
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Post by: jay8mac on January 07, 2015, 02:05:16 pm
thnx MR mafia =)
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Post by: conradl on January 07, 2015, 02:42:03 pm
@patrick. Previous results for 2014 aren't loading :(
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Post by: Patrick on January 07, 2015, 05:53:38 pm
Will sort it out tonight Conrad
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Post by: Patrick on January 08, 2015, 07:32:41 am
Ok 2014 results are up and working!
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Post by: yozzi on January 08, 2015, 08:55:30 am
sasol
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Post by: NakedPeanut on January 08, 2015, 11:38:37 am
Aspen!!
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Post by: jay8mac on January 09, 2015, 12:37:41 pm
sasol
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Post by: jaDEB on January 09, 2015, 02:06:28 pm
jaDEB, Eskom wants u to stop posting and save power.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 09, 2015, 02:06:38 pm
..I..
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 12, 2015, 07:33:38 am
Hallo virtual sweeties :) what have you been up to?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 12, 2015, 09:02:53 am
hello welcome back :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 12, 2015, 09:05:22 am
Hi jaDEB, nice to see you again.
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Post by: Patrick on January 12, 2015, 12:12:13 pm
Back to work for me soon... I'll do the write up on last years results soon.
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on January 12, 2015, 01:01:44 pm
guys where are the results for last year LeaderBoard ?
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on January 12, 2015, 01:02:00 pm
at least i was at Top 10
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 12, 2015, 02:29:28 pm
@MfanaInv:  Check previous results under Investor Challenge.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 12, 2015, 02:41:07 pm
Patrick is still gallivanting in Timbuktu or there abouts without wifi.  I'm sure he'll make a big spectacle of our 2014 results, (with a parade, glitter and his trademark stats) once he's back.  ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 13, 2015, 10:26:34 am
Gold :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 13, 2015, 10:26:44 am
Brent :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on January 13, 2015, 05:48:26 pm
ASR up 7%
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Post by: Patrick on January 14, 2015, 09:19:12 am
Morning all, Timbuktu was fun, but it's back to work for me today. I'll have some results and stats out soon.
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Post by: giggsie on January 14, 2015, 09:37:25 am
ASR Burnt me last year -50% !!!!. I was considering taking them on since they were so low. I'm Kicking myself now :'(
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Post by: Motown Capital on January 14, 2015, 10:19:14 am
The Top40 index is swinging like a see-saw of late, often an indicator that it's about to shoot - whether it shoots up or down this year is anybody's guess.  My guess is down, given global conditions.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 14, 2015, 11:13:07 am
Glencore down 7% - Copper price ?
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Post by: The Trader on January 14, 2015, 12:39:44 pm
Yes, copper price. And perhaps a growing realisation that they are exposed to coal, the ugly sister of all the fossil fuels. Copper price is down but also, Zambia is trying to impose a 20% gross royalty on tonnage, instead of the current 4% and taxes. This knocks Glencore (and others such as Trafigura) because they would no longer be able to offshore profits to Zug and leave the operating company in country running at close to break even.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 14, 2015, 12:41:50 pm
Thks Trader
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Post by: Levit holdings on January 14, 2015, 03:52:15 pm
glencore
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Post by: jaDEB on January 14, 2015, 06:05:00 pm
Blood on the dance floor - MJ
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2015, 08:33:15 am
Reserve Bank of India Governor Raghuram Rajan cut interest rates
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Post by: Trigger on January 15, 2015, 09:32:04 am
hackquin
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2015, 10:05:29 am
League of Legends ?
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Post by: Moonraker on January 15, 2015, 12:30:21 pm
MDC big bonus. Swiss Nat. Bank has removed min. peg against €. CHF shooting the lights out vs. Runt
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2015, 01:31:30 pm
Gold :)
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Post by: Orca on January 15, 2015, 01:53:54 pm
Boereworse :(
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2015, 02:20:38 pm
Orca your CML Assets Under Management is out
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Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2015, 02:45:08 pm
Give us the brief jaDEB, I've got some CML too...
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Post by: Orca on January 15, 2015, 02:55:36 pm
AUM bar chart shows a smaller gain hence some selling briefly. All the bars are 1 Yearlies except todays. It is a Q1 bar.
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Post by: Orca on January 15, 2015, 03:06:49 pm
13% drop in fastfood as consumers opting for healthier non wheat, gluten free foods. Credit Suisse.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2015, 03:37:56 pm
Brent 49 :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 15, 2015, 04:27:25 pm
Wow, CML does not even get mentioned in the darkside ?
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Post by: Tajiri on January 15, 2015, 08:03:10 pm
I would like to short sell GLN
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Post by: giggsie on January 16, 2015, 11:17:13 am
SAB :)
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Post by: Orca on January 16, 2015, 03:04:06 pm
SAB has flatlined ever since I left.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 16, 2015, 03:31:25 pm
LOL
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Post by: jaDEB on January 16, 2015, 03:31:55 pm
I see u go to the darkside to visit - sies
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Post by: Moonraker on January 16, 2015, 04:27:47 pm
The bacalhau is affecting Orca's judgement :)
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Post by: giggsie on January 16, 2015, 05:41:49 pm
Hi Patrick, The IT Goup welcomes you. We still waiting for Mr. Mafia and The Investor to join us.
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Post by: Patrick on January 16, 2015, 05:47:24 pm
Thanks giggsie, now time to start the weekend!
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Post by: MrMafia on January 17, 2015, 02:34:45 pm
Oi, I'm on the way
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2015, 10:42:35 am
Gold :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2015, 04:08:47 pm
NPN, please end above 1600.00 pretty please...
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2015, 10:26:20 am
Thanks NPN :)
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Post by: Patrick on January 21, 2015, 12:35:15 pm
P/E of 55, phew...
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2015, 01:12:29 pm
NPN? PE?
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Post by: Patrick on January 21, 2015, 03:17:39 pm
Yeah NPN.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2015, 03:18:44 pm
See sandbox
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Post by: Orca on January 21, 2015, 05:45:16 pm
Forgot about 10c influence on NPN.
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Post by: Orca on January 21, 2015, 07:58:27 pm
Massive buying on CML brought her back from the cliff. Two trades at R107.14 totalling R61M at close. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2015, 10:01:59 am
WHat time is the ECB anouncement ?
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Post by: Moonraker on January 22, 2015, 10:07:37 am
14:45 and press conference 15:30
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2015, 10:30:16 am
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2015, 04:06:18 pm
The European Central Bank agreed on Thursday to embark on a quantitative easing (QE) programme that will see it print money to buy up 60 billion euros worth of sovereign bonds from March until the end of September next year
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Post by: Tman on January 23, 2015, 10:34:41 am
tman
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Post by: jaDEB on January 23, 2015, 01:24:38 pm
u back !!!
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Post by: Patrick on January 24, 2015, 08:54:54 am
How are things qriffin? What's been happening this last year?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 26, 2015, 09:54:04 am
Invicta down 11% ? Any1 know why?
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Post by: Moonraker on January 26, 2015, 10:01:11 am
Ex special div. R20.24 and ex Rights.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 26, 2015, 10:15:31 am
Thks Mr Bond.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 26, 2015, 12:57:22 pm
Load shedding in effect, 11:00 to 22:00 today, stage 1. :(
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Post by: Orca on January 26, 2015, 11:29:15 pm
Expect CGT to rise to 50% with the Budget Speach 25 Feb.
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Post by: gcr on January 27, 2015, 09:24:47 am
Expect CGT to rise to 50% with the Budget Speach 25 Feb.
Based on what criteria
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Post by: fsteyn on January 27, 2015, 11:31:36 am
daily closing price history
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Post by: fsteyn on January 27, 2015, 11:32:19 am
oops, sorry. thought this was the search function!
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2015, 11:49:21 am
Frans, where u playing rugby this year?
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Post by: fsteyn on January 27, 2015, 12:04:38 pm
Jip that's me. No, just kidding. I'm not that Frans Steyn
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2015, 12:09:54 pm
:'(
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2015, 08:02:41 am
"Expect CGT to rise to 50% with the Budget Speach 25 Feb. " Thus I will trade more often and pay my tax rate instead on the 3 year CGT rule :)
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Post by: Patrick on January 28, 2015, 11:21:05 am
Do you have a source for that jaDEB?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2015, 01:52:57 pm
No, Orca's indicated it.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2015, 01:53:54 pm
Quote from: Orca on January 26, 2015, 11:29:15 pm      Expect CGT to rise to 50% with the Budget Speach 25 Feb
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Post by: Orca on January 28, 2015, 02:03:56 pm
Google Hugo van Zyl.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2015, 02:12:33 pm
How is the weather there Orca?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2015, 02:56:02 pm
Mr NPN please go over 1700 and stay above it.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2015, 04:12:46 pm
Happiness is !!
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Post by: Orca on January 28, 2015, 04:15:53 pm
Low of 6c to high of 13c jaDEB.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2015, 04:17:36 pm
:)
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Post by: Orca on January 28, 2015, 04:17:55 pm
CML dropped to support level at 10300.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 29, 2015, 10:06:51 am
CORONATION Fund Managers last night won the Raging Bull award for the South African management company of the year for the sixth time
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Post by: Orca on January 29, 2015, 08:29:38 pm
You should have shouted louder jaDEB. CML never heard you and tried to break support again.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 30, 2015, 12:31:43 pm
Wow, it is Quiet here.....
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Post by: giggsie on January 30, 2015, 01:10:15 pm
Yup. I think everyone else has Friday off!!!! :(
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Post by: Orca on January 30, 2015, 02:43:03 pm
Miserable and rainy here keeping us indoors.
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Post by: gcr on January 30, 2015, 03:23:44 pm
Miserable and rainy here keeping us indoors.
Sounds like typical Cape Town weather you having 8)
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Post by: gcr on January 30, 2015, 03:25:36 pm
Patrick - be a good lad and plug in a price for my Cashbuild and with a bit of luck I could move up the log
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 30, 2015, 04:12:31 pm
Miserable and rainy here keeping us indoors.

So what's the problem? I see a log fire, red wine.  Sounds pretty good to me.
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Post by: RMA on February 02, 2015, 10:05:16 am
jasco
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Post by: Orca on February 04, 2015, 11:53:12 am
SNV shooting lights out big time.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2015, 02:11:59 pm
SNV cannot shoot the lights out, Eskom switched it off :)
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Post by: Orca on February 04, 2015, 06:21:35 pm
:-(
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Post by: che on February 05, 2015, 03:59:11 pm
telkom
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Post by: jaDEB on February 09, 2015, 06:07:22 pm
Losing Focus :'(
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Post by: Orca on February 09, 2015, 08:10:24 pm
Time for your tiblets?
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Post by: Fanus on February 11, 2015, 03:25:05 pm
PTXTEN price is out everywhere. If it's not I'm rich!
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Post by: jaDEB on February 11, 2015, 05:37:01 pm
Rand gettin hammered
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Post by: The Trader on February 12, 2015, 10:02:35 am
PTXTEN price is out everywhere. If it's not I'm rich!

Well done, how did you know ?
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Post by: Fanus on February 12, 2015, 10:44:12 am
I just wanted property in my portfolio and then it spiked so I took profits.
I will probably buy PropTrax 10 again if I sell anything.
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Post by: Orca on February 12, 2015, 04:42:43 pm
Oh dear. CML broke through the support.
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Post by: Orca on February 12, 2015, 09:51:59 pm
Once again. Oh dear. Now you guys are living in a Banana Republic.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 13, 2015, 08:17:22 am
Yes, very sad .....
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Post by: Patrick on February 13, 2015, 10:09:26 pm
Still planning on keeping your investments here Orca?
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Post by: Orca on February 15, 2015, 11:00:12 pm
Looking at buying property here and keeping the rest in SA as I don't know the markets in the EU.
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Post by: Orca on February 16, 2015, 04:40:25 pm
CML defies gravity. :)
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Post by: Orca on February 17, 2015, 09:03:38 pm
MACD for CML made a Buy signal but this was not confirmed by a good body green candle today. :(
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Post by: Moonraker on February 18, 2015, 12:14:47 pm
For Orca: MTA  Headline earnings per share to be between 32.42% and 39.27% higher
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Post by: Orca on February 18, 2015, 05:35:05 pm
MTA's batteries are charged. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 18, 2015, 05:42:10 pm
Orca, please give us your yearly CML prediction. Where will it end  , u think, 2015.
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Post by: Orca on February 18, 2015, 10:43:35 pm
Done and the wine is good here in Portugal.
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Post by: gcr on February 19, 2015, 12:27:35 am
MTA's batteries are charged. :)
The share price movement is very lethargic, I have held a few thousand of these shares since September 2012 and the current price over initial purchase price has shown only 17.2% growth and it increased today by 9.3%.
So maybe come September 2015 I will look to exiting this counter as there seem to be better counters to be invested in
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Post by: Junz on February 19, 2015, 08:45:20 am
whl
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Post by: Orca on February 19, 2015, 10:09:34 am
Buying Mutlu was her downfall. Too much political unrest around Turkey.
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Post by: Orca on February 19, 2015, 01:37:45 pm
STPROP anomaly in the challenge.
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Post by: Orca on February 19, 2015, 10:38:32 pm
I'm shouting but not heard.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 20, 2015, 08:33:57 am
Thanks Orca :)
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Post by: Fanus on February 20, 2015, 04:08:37 pm
My PTXTEN gains were reversed. Same should be done for STPROP
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Post by: Orca on February 20, 2015, 07:12:01 pm
Looking at the chart, I see it made an artificial price spike that was quickly reversed. I think you took advantage of the time lap.
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Post by: Fanus on February 23, 2015, 01:55:10 pm
And so did STPROP
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Post by: Orca on February 23, 2015, 03:06:52 pm
I did report STPROP to P. but it's a difficult call. This one should be removed as the price often moves widely and this can be taken advantage of. Over 20% in 1 day.
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Post by: Orca on February 23, 2015, 11:50:08 pm
P is not here. He must be between some rocks and hard places without internet.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2015, 07:56:38 am
Seems that there is not many people here :'( we are talking to ourselves..
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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2015, 07:58:49 am
See darkside is also not many that talks...
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Post by: Patrick on February 24, 2015, 08:45:38 am
I'm around, but only on a phone until Monday. Leave over then until December
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Post by: Orca on February 25, 2015, 11:12:29 am
Budget speech today?
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Post by: Patrick on February 25, 2015, 11:37:17 am
Coming up at 2pm
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2015, 02:51:57 pm
No changes were made to capital gains tax (CGT), dividend taxes or estate duty.
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Post by: Orca on February 25, 2015, 04:08:35 pm
Watched it live on YouTube. :)
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Post by: Patrick on February 26, 2015, 09:28:07 am
I think we got off lightly, when they start seriously upping divi and CGT I'll get an exit plan ready...
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Post by: AdriaanG on February 26, 2015, 12:30:46 pm
ASSORE are doing their name justice!
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Post by: gcr on February 26, 2015, 01:25:58 pm
I think we got off lightly, when they start seriously upping divi and CGT I'll get an exit plan ready...
I hardly think we got off lightly - tax increased against the backdrop of rampant theft of tax payer monies and no penalties or prosecutions on the cards. Petrol will go up at least 90 cents a litre from next month and then in April by a further 80.5 cents per litre for levies, and whatever increase in the fuel price. Then to top it off there is no change in the budget to accommodate a reduction in e toll fees.
So I don't believe tax payers have been fairly dealt with in this budget at all, it merely says the government will continue to waste tax payer monies, and take no action against corruption, fraud and theft.
There should be a revolt by the people who receive old age pensions, and, grants - because their pensions/grants are compromised by the theft of state funds by the employees in state organisations
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2015, 01:37:01 pm
Agree
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Post by: Moonraker on February 26, 2015, 01:43:18 pm
Read this (my sentiments exactly). http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-safm-market-update/budget-panel-discussion-chris-hart-melanie-millesk
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Post by: Moonraker on February 26, 2015, 07:58:06 pm
APN Trading update on SENS :)
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Post by: Orca on February 27, 2015, 10:02:16 am
Why APN down 3% after good SENS?
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Post by: Moonraker on February 27, 2015, 12:21:31 pm
Maybe slightly less than expected, but not bad at all considering forex hit
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2015, 12:35:08 pm
Mr Bond what is your thoughts on AVL ?
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Post by: Moonraker on February 27, 2015, 01:33:42 pm
I don't know about AVL. MDC is in my LT portfolio.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 27, 2015, 02:24:00 pm
Thanks
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Post by: Patrick on March 02, 2015, 12:06:17 pm
Hello everyone... My leave is finished :(
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Post by: jaDEB on March 02, 2015, 12:12:30 pm
What is that ?
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Post by: gcr on March 02, 2015, 03:54:11 pm
Don't know if any of you access Moneyweb, but, all day they have had an epic fail with the launch of the new web page and its layout. Can't comment on any of their articles, which is a shame as by and far the most interesting section is reading the variety of comments. This whole episode must hurt their business severely
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Post by: jaDEB on March 02, 2015, 04:02:02 pm
Yes I was wondering what is wrong. Thought running out of airtime on tablet
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Post by: Moonraker on March 02, 2015, 04:14:31 pm
Can Rolfes (RLF) be added under Buy Shares ?
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Post by: Patrick on March 02, 2015, 09:44:28 pm
@gcr, I noticed that with moneyweb, surely someone in their tech department is feeling the pressure... Btw, I quite like your comments on the articles there.
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Post by: Patrick on March 02, 2015, 09:45:02 pm
@moon, any idea how often RLF trades per day?
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Post by: gcr on March 02, 2015, 09:57:47 pm
@gcr, I noticed that with moneyweb, surely someone in their tech department is feeling the pressure... Btw, I quite like your comments on the articles there.
Patrick - with all due respect to you and your career calling. I have yet to find an IT person who understands the clients needs, nor do they have the capability to implement anything remotely close to the clients needs. When I cobol coding in the 70's our lecturer made the statement " there is nothing a computer can't do, the only limitation is the programmer", I have tended to keep this dear to my heart.
No reflection on you but most programmers lack the knowledge of the business within which they operate.
With both my sons I insisted that they take business administration, accountancy and computer appreciation (both did their MSC first) for their B. Comm degrees - at least they understand business requirements and can argue with the propeller heads when they sink into their jargon state of mind and tell you it can't be done.
There you have it my rant about IT people - but don't feel put out because I have the same views about Architects and QS's
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Post by: Moonraker on March 03, 2015, 08:02:45 am
@moon, any idea how often RLF trades per day?

Seems good for inclusion ? See screenie.

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Post by: Patrick on March 03, 2015, 09:59:25 am
Done
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Post by: Wallie on March 03, 2015, 01:27:47 pm
telkom
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2015, 03:33:09 pm
Advanced Warfare sucks :'(
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Post by: Orca on March 04, 2015, 03:42:53 pm
Sticks and stones ?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2015, 03:56:12 pm
n0, ThAt wILL brEAk My comPUTeR sCreEN...
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Post by: The Alphaaa on March 05, 2015, 01:41:06 pm
the alpha
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Post by: The Alphaaa on March 05, 2015, 02:17:20 pm
the alpha
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Post by: Orca on March 05, 2015, 10:20:12 pm
Geez. More posts after hours than during hours.
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Post by: gcr on March 06, 2015, 10:06:42 am
Geez. More posts after hours than during hours.
Could that be a measure of improved productivity? :LHST:
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Post by: Orca on March 06, 2015, 01:06:13 pm
TOR HEPS up 118%
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Post by: jaDEB on March 06, 2015, 03:39:13 pm
Rant ..... :'(
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Post by: Patrick on March 06, 2015, 05:01:27 pm
Why are you ranting on this forum jaDEB
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Post by: jaDEB on March 09, 2015, 08:46:04 am
Cause I went shopping on friday, and JSE has red hanger sale today :'(
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Post by: Supersonicbaron on March 09, 2015, 12:26:30 pm

Cause I went shopping on friday, and JSE has red hanger sale today :'(

So what exactly has caused this sale ? All I see is red and one or two greens


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Post by: jaDEB on March 09, 2015, 12:33:02 pm
U.S. jobs data fanned expectations that the U.S. Federal Reserve may raise interest rates sooner than previously thought.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 09, 2015, 12:59:45 pm
Yip, my policy still intact, buy high sell low.. :'(
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Post by: Patrick on March 09, 2015, 04:41:19 pm
Do you reduce your income by trading losses come tax time?
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Post by: Orca on March 09, 2015, 06:22:43 pm
Yes. Every year.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 10, 2015, 09:10:18 am
Any1 using Moneyweb app Moneytalk?
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 10, 2015, 11:59:19 am
no, do you?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 10, 2015, 01:58:15 pm
Ohh, hello MP. thought u were on mission with Mr Bond. Yes I use it but not working..
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Post by: jaDEB on March 10, 2015, 01:59:13 pm
Rant getting hammered .. :'(
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 10, 2015, 02:04:42 pm
Yes jaDEB, we were undercover, very hush-hush.
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2015, 02:12:59 pm
€/ZAR still ok. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 10, 2015, 02:20:53 pm
While u undercover, fix rand, and get the oil price back up to 100$
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Post by: Moonraker on March 10, 2015, 03:08:24 pm
Wat ek op sharechat gesê het..

The US payrolls figure was much stronger than even the most optimistic forecasts, making it almost certain that the Fed will embark on increasing the Fed funds rate around mid year, maybe later but certainly in 2015 rather than 2016.
The pressure to follow with rates increases by our reserve bank will manifest itself sooner than thought to ameliorate further declines in the Rand.
Bond yields have reacted as soon as the payrolls figure was released, with the R186 long bond yield increasing from ± 7,70/75% to nearly 8%.
This is not good news for stocks, especially REITS with only local properties in their portfolios. They have reacted to the news by dropping around 3% from the previous day's prices. (They are interest rate sensitive, and closely correlated with bond yields).
So, we are in for rough times, especially for the 'SA Inc.' stocks. Rand hedges should fare better. Resources, all priced in US dollars, will also be affected and it remains to be seen whether a 'booming' US economy is enough to offset the downward revision in China's GDP figure to 7% for 2015.
Expecting some repatriation of overseas investments from our market.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 10, 2015, 03:54:10 pm
Dankie Mr Bond .
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Post by: jaDEB on March 10, 2015, 04:27:31 pm
Frikkie kry pakslae ...
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 10, 2015, 05:10:37 pm
Wie is Frikkie, ek ken hom nie?
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Post by: Patrick on March 10, 2015, 05:19:49 pm
I think I'm a frikkie... Went shopping 2 weeks ago.... But my house money comes in 4-8 wells, so maybe it's a well timed dip...
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Post by: Moonraker on March 10, 2015, 06:26:02 pm
Weet nie, maar ek dink vandag is ons almal frikkies.
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Post by: gcr on March 10, 2015, 08:06:42 pm
My concern is the rate of the Rand's decline against the dollar. With the new levies coming in on April 1, on petrol, and this decline we will be paying more at the fuel pump - which will negate all the benefits we have gained in the oil price - going to be painful in the next 9 months of the year and taxes have gone up. I always thought that one strived for a win - win situation rather than a lose - lose situation
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2015, 08:06:38 am
Frikkie is one of the voices in my heads. Sort of my financial  adviser
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Post by: The Trader on March 11, 2015, 08:12:46 am
Rand is pretty stretched now. Should start to come back a little, perhaps to 11.80. But trend is not good. Either way we are going to pay more for fuel when BFP price gets calculated next month. 
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2015, 11:36:11 am
NPN :)
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Post by: Patrick on March 11, 2015, 02:40:27 pm
An ETF at the top of the chart...
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Post by: jay8mac on March 11, 2015, 07:36:57 pm
Heeeeey....this market ain't loyal
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Post by: Orca on March 11, 2015, 10:15:03 pm
Well, we have been in a bull market for 7 years.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2015, 08:53:30 am
MoneyPenny where do u get the new high / new low of a share you use to post under today outlook?
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 12, 2015, 11:40:06 am
Sharenet emails me at closing cause I'm kinda special, but I think it is on their web page as well. ;-)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 12, 2015, 12:31:57 pm
Thanks MP
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 13, 2015, 10:04:20 am
;-)
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Post by: jloubser on March 13, 2015, 08:48:49 pm
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Post by: Patrick on March 16, 2015, 12:26:55 pm
Bounced back quite nicely today...
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Post by: Orca on March 16, 2015, 05:53:18 pm
CML--- yes, it did.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 17, 2015, 02:47:59 pm
The remaining Fragile Five has made much less progress. Morgan Stanley says Turkey has completed no more than 10 percent of recommended reforms, Brazil 15 percent and South Africa barely anything.

Current-accounts shortfalls and inflation remain high in each and politics in the form of a widening corruption scandal at Petroleo Brasileiro SA in Brazil and lawmaker pressure on Turkey’s central bank are worrying investors. Such an environment has reduced their ability to cut interest rates and Brazil and South Africa may even hike them this year.
 (Bloomberg 17/3/15)
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Post by: Orca on March 17, 2015, 11:27:42 pm
Imara gave a BUY for CML at 9840 and that is where she closed.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 18, 2015, 09:59:57 am
What time is FED statement today?
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 18, 2015, 10:46:12 am
20:00 FOMC Statement & 20:30 Yellen
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Post by: jaDEB on March 18, 2015, 11:04:55 am
THANKS
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Post by: jaDEB on March 18, 2015, 11:05:08 am
Sry I mean, Thanks.
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Post by: Patrick on March 18, 2015, 02:32:32 pm
CML has been all over the show lately. Now sitting at 9836.
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Post by: Orca on March 18, 2015, 05:19:17 pm
We will see 105 for CML soon.
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Post by: Orca on March 18, 2015, 05:20:13 pm
Sorry. That is Rands.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 19, 2015, 09:04:29 am
Mr Bond, please have a look at 10c under NPN and give me your input.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 19, 2015, 11:50:01 am
NPN :)
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Post by: Orca on March 19, 2015, 01:08:26 pm
Wonder what caused that massive spike at 12.15 on most stocks today?
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Post by: Patrick on March 19, 2015, 01:12:06 pm
Caught me by surprise too Orca. No idea why yet.
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Post by: chang9015 on March 19, 2015, 01:28:30 pm
US Fed report?
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Post by: Orca on March 19, 2015, 02:11:41 pm
Spike on Volume not so much as on price.
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Post by: Patrick on March 19, 2015, 02:15:27 pm
There was a price spike too though. The indi was up around 1.4% at one stage, currently up 1%.
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Post by: Orca on March 19, 2015, 02:29:44 pm
Got it. No trades recorded from 11.59.59 to 12.15.00.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 19, 2015, 02:50:16 pm
Ass is up 20% :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 19, 2015, 03:07:20 pm
Say what now?   Oh I see, 745 065 shares R 91 961 651.85 up 21.31%.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 20, 2015, 09:27:34 am
Just stay above 1800 frikkin please ...... then we will get ready for next run...
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Post by: jaDEB on March 20, 2015, 09:33:20 am
Sun International to buy Peermont
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Post by: jaDEB on March 20, 2015, 10:15:55 am
Ag frikkit, time for some Carpenters music :'(
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Post by: Orca on March 20, 2015, 01:11:20 pm
Not Abba?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 20, 2015, 01:20:46 pm
Not ABBA, my fishies, OCE, is hurting me :'(
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Post by: Patrick on March 20, 2015, 03:47:08 pm
Cml is hurting me...
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Post by: Orca on March 20, 2015, 03:54:46 pm
On the bottom BB so Monday she will be back up.
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Post by: Patrick on March 23, 2015, 02:42:39 pm
So, who's going to take the match tomorrow morning?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 23, 2015, 04:00:15 pm
RSA - Please - pretty please, those NZ looked so full of them selves on Saterday against WI.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 23, 2015, 04:13:47 pm
APN :'(
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Post by: JDP on March 23, 2015, 04:21:34 pm
APN Buy?? or wait for 37000 if it ever gets there??
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Post by: jaDEB on March 23, 2015, 04:40:50 pm
Have no Idea, cannot see why it is down so much. I bought above R400
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Post by: Moonraker on March 23, 2015, 06:43:42 pm
I reckon it's a buy at these levels.
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Post by: JDP on March 24, 2015, 11:31:53 am
Anyone know of ratings downgrade on APN, mentioned in another forum, but i cant find anything about it online?
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Post by: Imran on March 24, 2015, 12:31:32 pm
Anyone here own shares in Conduit Capital?
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 24, 2015, 12:57:31 pm
Not at the moment but I've been watching them, waiting for opportune moment to go in, I like them.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 24, 2015, 05:59:24 pm
APN-all i have noticed is it never use to be in the top value trade shares, now it is every now and then.
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Post by: Patrick on March 25, 2015, 12:45:14 pm
I see Conduit has you charging up the leaderboard MP!
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 25, 2015, 01:34:20 pm
Yeah well, we do try. ;-) but with 150 000 plus shares, I'm going to bounce all over the place.
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Post by: Patrick on March 26, 2015, 08:33:34 am
I see Capitec is having an astounding year. Anone here own it?
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Post by: JDP on March 26, 2015, 10:12:04 am
Yes i have some, in total up 70% since i bought in October 2014.
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Post by: Nivek on March 26, 2015, 12:58:17 pm
Excellent purchase JDP, what made you go for them?
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Post by: JDP on March 26, 2015, 02:43:26 pm
I read and article about them written by Simon Brown.

Basically he was saying that they are eating the other BIG BANKS lunch, by taking away clients from them left right and centre, due to the costs of banking
that the BIG boys are asking etc. and this is besides there loan section, so I investigate them from there and went for it. Very happy that I did  :TU:
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Post by: JDP on March 26, 2015, 04:36:27 pm
if MTN goes sub 200, im topping up.
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Post by: Itut on March 27, 2015, 10:27:48 am
I see Capitec is having an astounding year. Anone here own it?

It's mine!  ;D :-[ :P
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Post by: The Alphaaa on March 27, 2015, 10:36:32 am
fowrdcurve
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Post by: Patrick on March 27, 2015, 10:41:47 am
In real life as well as the game Itut?
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Post by: Itut on March 27, 2015, 11:30:25 am
In real life? No. I wish. @Patrick
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Post by: Patrick on March 29, 2015, 05:02:12 pm
Ask Moneypenny for a loan :)
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Post by: Orca on March 29, 2015, 10:56:51 pm
Yes griffin. That will teach you to stay out of mining stocks.
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 30, 2015, 08:31:28 am
@P:  He should make it snappy, I'm speculative. ;-)
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 30, 2015, 08:37:43 am
Remember since yesterday, Europe is 1hr behind us, not 2, winter is on us.  :(
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Post by: Orca on March 30, 2015, 10:44:31 am
My laptop, tablet and cell phones changed but not my wristwatch and wall clock. Strange.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 30, 2015, 01:09:31 pm
NPN :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 30, 2015, 04:39:57 pm
I have noticed, NPN if NPN starts with a bang, it tends to come back in the afternoon, thus when u buy do it after 3PM...lol
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Post by: Patrick on March 30, 2015, 07:58:03 pm
Now try make a profit out of that fact!
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Post by: gcr on March 30, 2015, 09:37:45 pm
What's happening in the market today and tomorrow is window dressing - end of a quarter for fund managers and they want to show their customers managed portfolios, trump non managed funds. Buy not before Wednesday or Thursday this week with your new allocation of R 100,000 on Wednesday for the competition 
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Post by: The Alphaaa on March 31, 2015, 01:53:11 pm
nmnguni2406
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Post by: The Alphaaa on March 31, 2015, 02:35:44 pm
thebe investor challenge
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Post by: jaDEB on March 31, 2015, 03:06:03 pm
Link?
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Post by: Neuk on April 01, 2015, 09:53:44 am
sasol
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Post by: jaDEB on April 01, 2015, 01:49:04 pm
@griffin. In competition I am down at bottom, thus need to do something to kick MP @ss, real life, I am scared for resources.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 01, 2015, 03:23:50 pm
Sorry in real life or Comp ?
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Post by: ngoria on April 01, 2015, 03:56:21 pm
Sekunjalo
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 01, 2015, 04:10:52 pm
@jD:  Pffft, :o  Tell me about it.... stud.
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Post by: Itut on April 01, 2015, 04:15:50 pm
The road to Rank 1 is going to be tough! Easy... & wedh... are looking too strong to overtake!
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Post by: Orca on April 01, 2015, 04:36:22 pm
CML saw the BUY on the MACD Monday and complied.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 01, 2015, 06:03:16 pm
MTN traded Top value, not NPN, what the hell .... !!
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Post by: Patrick on April 02, 2015, 10:27:09 am
Capitec up 26% in march
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Post by: Orca on April 02, 2015, 10:46:43 am
Jip and will continue to rise as metrics on the banking sector are all bullish.
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Post by: Orca on April 02, 2015, 10:48:17 am
KIO. A future penny stock on ALTX.
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Post by: ninjac on April 03, 2015, 10:30:47 pm
Firstrand
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Post by: che on April 07, 2015, 09:27:13 am
telkom
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Post by: Datura on April 07, 2015, 12:15:51 pm
wth caused the BLU drop
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Post by: Orca on April 07, 2015, 01:14:33 pm
Volatility of low price stocks caused it.
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Post by: Datura on April 07, 2015, 01:19:56 pm
I'm still a newb.  A lot to learn :)  Thanks for the response though.  Was very weird for me to see how it was all over the place...
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Post by: Datura on April 07, 2015, 01:23:37 pm
Gambling with Platinum.  Not sure how India's increase in demand will effect it in the next year but surely it must.  Y/n/m?
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Post by: 6x9base13 on April 07, 2015, 01:54:23 pm
tongaa
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Post by: OnePowerfulCorsa on April 07, 2015, 04:22:52 pm
Has Calgro really not had any movement today?
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Post by: Orca on April 07, 2015, 05:39:23 pm
@Datura. Leave resources and commodities alone. They are in my opinion for trading short term only. 
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Post by: Datura on April 08, 2015, 09:39:10 am
Thanks.
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Post by: benched68 on April 08, 2015, 10:19:44 am
tbs, long
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Post by: The Alphaaa on April 09, 2015, 08:56:09 am
thebe investor challenge
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Post by: The Alphaaa on April 09, 2015, 09:58:14 am
mo-jazz
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Post by: The Alphaaa on April 09, 2015, 09:58:51 am
mo-Jazz
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Post by: The Alphaaa on April 09, 2015, 10:32:28 am
tumishokomane
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Post by: The Alphaaa on April 09, 2015, 12:09:18 pm
Mo-Jazz
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Post by: Patrick on April 10, 2015, 09:02:13 am
So when you sell your house for 1.32M, you only get out 1.23M after the agents, lawyers, banks and government take their share :(
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Post by: jaDEB on April 13, 2015, 09:20:59 am
NPN clapped the R2000 lvl ... :)
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Post by: Patrick on April 13, 2015, 10:57:28 am
I've been watching the INDI flying up today :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 13, 2015, 12:40:18 pm
daMmIt, sTay aBOve R2000.00 pLeASe .. !!!!
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Post by: jaDEB on April 13, 2015, 03:02:37 pm
lol, I is last on the darkside ....
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Post by: maximillan.moyo on April 13, 2015, 03:53:48 pm
can NPN reach 2500?????
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Post by: maximillan.moyo on April 13, 2015, 04:10:52 pm
is NPN worth buying or is it too expensive now??
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Post by: jaDEB on April 13, 2015, 04:42:33 pm
@qriffin, yes changed to DRD in competition..
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Post by: jaDEB on April 14, 2015, 10:20:53 am
Damn, u cannot open any website this morning without some1 writing about NPN or 10c, what have they been doing, watching D-Stv ?
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Post by: vannessa on April 14, 2015, 02:07:09 pm
telkom
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Post by: Patrick on April 15, 2015, 03:42:19 am
I always wonder if they tell anyone they're about to sell. Huge opportunity for someone to make a killing through shorting...
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Post by: Patrick on April 15, 2015, 09:24:59 am
Chairman selling off stocks... If they tell anyone there could be a lot of money to be made...
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 15, 2015, 09:36:06 am
Lol, that's called insider trading, not worth it.
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on April 15, 2015, 11:05:51 am
Guys who won last year's Investor Challenge ?
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Post by: Patrick on April 15, 2015, 11:29:40 am
It was Imran, with 99.94% groth. Take a look here: http://www.shareforum.co.za/competition/com_rankings.php?year=2014
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Post by: letlhogonolo on April 16, 2015, 11:30:18 am
Sasol, what a jump
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Post by: gcr on April 16, 2015, 02:19:11 pm
Here's an interesting situation for all those people who really think they are going to make millions from playing with penny stocks.
I took a gamble on Nutrition Holdings (NUT) and over time bought 1.5 million shares all at 1 cent. Today they have traded at 4 cents a share and given my costs to purchase my profit would be R 44,850 if I could sell my entire holdings today. A sizeable profit in any terms, but here's the problem - if I try and unload 1.5 mil. shares in one hit I am either going to end up selling off part sales and incurring brokerage on each closed deal and I may well not get to the point where all sales fall in one day. So to unload such a holding will eat into my profit significantly, there is another danger because those people who watch the density of shares would see a holder of the stock selling a substantial holding and there is every chance this will depress the market to some extent
Anyway I believe this share will still go higher and I have already placed orders to sell at a figure considerably above the current 4 cents, so will just wait and see and if I get my prices I will let the forum know of my eureka moment, but then again it may in the short term swing the other way
So if you play with penny stock write the costs off immediately you purchase them, as you are more likely to lose money on them rather than get great returns :LHST: 
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Post by: Nivek on April 16, 2015, 03:59:03 pm
Sasol, what a jump
Rose pretty much in line with the oil price.
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Post by: Patrick on April 16, 2015, 04:29:52 pm
@gcr, if you transferred those holdings to easy equities, you wouldn't have any minimum fees. That means you could sell a few without huge transaction costs.
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Post by: gcr on April 16, 2015, 09:13:03 pm
@gcr, if you transferred those holdings to easy equities, you wouldn't have any minimum fees. That means you could sell a few without huge transaction costs.
And my holdings with them would raise what sort of charges? - currently I enjoy no holding or admin charges with my brokers other than conventional scrip sales/purchase charges
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Post by: Patrick on April 16, 2015, 09:34:58 pm
0 annual and holding fees, and just 0.25% commision with no minimum brokerage fee. You'll have to pay you broker to move the holding out thugh, ABSA charges R170 per share.
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Post by: gcr on April 17, 2015, 10:09:14 am
0 annual and holding fees, and just 0.25% commision with no minimum brokerage fee. You'll have to pay you broker to move the holding out thugh, ABSA charges R170 per share.
So there is no value switching - as I said I don't pay charges now, and there is the switching charge to another broker
Will stay as I am
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Post by: Patrick on April 17, 2015, 08:13:25 pm
@gcr, the only benefit would be being able to offload your penny shares in small increments. I'd only switch that share.
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 21, 2015, 10:56:16 am
So by the way, Stage 5 Loadshedding implemented... Stage 5 loadshedding is when Eskom comes to your house and blows out your candles and removes the batteries from your torch.
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Post by: Orca on April 21, 2015, 02:01:16 pm
Watch ADI run. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 22, 2015, 10:21:28 am
damn, Ass is all over the place .
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 22, 2015, 10:56:32 am
That's what he said. I assume you meant Asr, high 10945, low 10213.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 22, 2015, 10:57:41 am
Yip, Assore :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 22, 2015, 10:59:16 am
Thought so :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 22, 2015, 08:29:00 pm
This is so annoying, 10th consecutive night without electricity. 20:00 to 22:30. Should have stayed in London, why oh why did I return?
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Post by: gcr on April 22, 2015, 10:41:31 pm
Where do you stay that they have not heard of rolling black outs as opposed to fixed time black outs
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Post by: Imran on April 22, 2015, 10:51:29 pm
Whats the tax rate in the challenge?
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Post by: Patrick on April 23, 2015, 01:05:22 am
30%
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Post by: jaDEB on April 23, 2015, 08:11:33 am
@MP, I load my tablet then during load shedding catch up on my movies. Busy watching Steven Hawkings movie...
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on April 23, 2015, 08:15:53 am
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This is so annoying, 10th consecutive night without electricity. 20:00 to 22:30. Should have stayed in London, why oh why did I return?

The weather. Definitely the weather.

BTW a cheapish 500w inverter (around R1000) attached to you car battery and run through to your tv with extensions, should at least keep your TV/DSTV going for a few hours.
 ;)
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Post by: Patrick on April 23, 2015, 08:36:54 am
Here's a tip, most ADSL routers run on 12v, so either buy a small rechargeable 12v battery, or get a looong extension lead from your car battery.
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 23, 2015, 09:11:39 am
@g:  It is stage one additional starting at 17:00 to accommodate winter usage.  I have no issues with sharing but ffs rotate the evening schedule.  I'm in Pretoria, if you see it burn one evening on the news, know it was me. ;-)  Working myself up in frenzy again, deep breaths let it go.  @ jaDEB,  We've  watched movies on tablets, even played space invaders and pinball and other apps, browsing, being uncharacteristically active on social media, but still, it gets old very soon and my rooter is gone, so have to use cell as hotspot, usually 3G.  Even gym schedule screwed, I usually train weights in morning and cardio in evening, problem is everybody knows its lights out at 20:00, so those who gym 20:00–21:30 have to go earlier, very crowded. @MrD, you’re so right, it’s the weather, and just wonder if this is our lot for the rest of the winter.  My husband started looking at ‘solarising’ our home last week, he works in Jhb, only sees me in the dark, not working for him, lol.  @P, no I did not know that one, sounds like camping – which I hate by the way, but beggars can’t be choosers I guess, thanks for the tip. ;-) I'm feeling better now, done ranting. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 23, 2015, 10:51:54 am
my problem I have a Tropical tank, I is going to [email protected] in winter. but Fu#$ them....
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Post by: Orca on April 23, 2015, 04:31:22 pm
Why KIO going up?
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Post by: jaDEB on April 23, 2015, 05:34:14 pm
ASR also up, suppose some good news for Iron Ore ?
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Post by: Bevan on April 24, 2015, 07:48:01 am
Price of iron ore (Platts 62.5% Fe CIF China) "soared" on Wednesday from $48.50 to $52.90 on Singapore Exchange. Still some way down from circa $145 a year or so ago. Export parity FOT prices at Sishen are likely around R280 per tonne for Kumba. Can't see how they are making money at those prices.
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Post by: Patrick on April 24, 2015, 10:51:48 am
The indi is over R70 for the first time.
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Post by: Orca on April 24, 2015, 11:11:18 pm
No but it looks like a good short but I have learned my lesson with shorting.
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on April 25, 2015, 06:24:01 am
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Anyone want to join me shorting KIO on Monday P/T R100

You going to be the only one in SA shorting KIO on Monday.

The rest will be enjoying the holiday.
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Post by: Patrick on April 25, 2015, 09:42:42 am
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 28, 2015, 08:57:58 am
Hello All
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Post by: Nivek on April 28, 2015, 09:10:47 am
Morning, I see you're also at work this week jaDEB.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 28, 2015, 09:29:58 am
Yip .. :'(
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Post by: Orca on April 28, 2015, 09:48:51 am
There pops griffin's KIO short.
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 28, 2015, 12:57:41 pm
Visiting vineyards in WCape this week, no work, all fun for me. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 28, 2015, 01:40:59 pm
:"(
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Post by: Orca on April 28, 2015, 03:24:07 pm
Yes, but unlike you, most of the time I am wrong.
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Post by: Orca on April 28, 2015, 03:27:34 pm
Hoping for Trading Statement SENS for CML this week.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 28, 2015, 03:55:43 pm
:)
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on April 28, 2015, 03:57:29 pm
:'D forums will never change :P
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Post by: Orca on April 28, 2015, 04:00:18 pm
@qriffin. My apologies. I did not mean it in that way. My choices have been bad lately.
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Post by: Orca on April 28, 2015, 04:05:33 pm
You can "smite" me if you want. :(
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Post by: jaDEB on April 28, 2015, 04:14:08 pm
Rant @ R11.86  ...  
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Post by: Orca on April 28, 2015, 04:43:49 pm
CML SENS out and dropped 10% in 5 minutes.
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Post by: Bevan on April 29, 2015, 10:01:51 am
qriffin, rather use http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/products/asiaclear/bulk/iron
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Post by: Bevan on April 29, 2015, 10:02:17 am
then click "clearing & data" and then "daily settlement prices"
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Post by: jaDEB on April 29, 2015, 02:10:33 pm
AVL :)
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Post by: jaDEB on April 29, 2015, 05:41:13 pm
Do not drop the ball ... knobb .. !!!
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Post by: Orca on April 30, 2015, 12:52:00 pm
TFSA - Tax Free Savings Account.
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Post by: jaDEB on April 30, 2015, 01:08:45 pm
thanks
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Post by: jaDEB on April 30, 2015, 02:01:59 pm
Is Mr Bond and MoneyPenny on a mission ?
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 30, 2015, 03:16:36 pm
@jD:  /cough/ An impossible one it seems. ;)
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Post by: Moneypenny on April 30, 2015, 03:18:09 pm
@Patrick: I've closed some positions on IC earlier today, when does it usually reflect in trading ac?
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Post by: jaDEB on April 30, 2015, 03:23:14 pm
OCE   :)
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Post by: Patrick on April 30, 2015, 10:11:14 pm
@moneypenny, usually takes 15 minutes, I can see your sale of CND.
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Post by: Imran on May 03, 2015, 01:26:26 am
Anybody here consider Stellar Capital Partners? Same team who put Torre Industries together are involved in it. Currently has a NAV of R 560 mil according to an interview with the CEO I watch , that gives a value of R 2 per share. The current assets are however quite lousy (Goliath Gold, Mine Restoration etc.) but in time they'll probably sell these and build a much stronger portfolio.
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Post by: Imran on May 03, 2015, 01:39:15 pm
Towards the end of last year Christo Wiese sold all his lousy assets into Convergenet in exchange for shares at R 2.50 a share (Mine Restoration, Goliath Gold, Digicor and Tellumat, although I do believe Digicor and Tellumat have got some value). They then did a share placement and raised R 150 mil at R 2 a share. Management got shuffled, they renamed the company and moved from the technology sector of the JSE to the investments holdings sector. Oh ya and Mr Wiese is now a 28% share holder. They recently spent R 50 mil to buy out BlackStar groups 16% stake in Cadiz.
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Post by: Patrick on May 04, 2015, 08:59:56 am
Lot's of new members this weekend, not sure why but welcome all.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 04, 2015, 09:16:04 am
Orca posted on Darkside about CML  :)
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 04, 2015, 10:11:53 am
Lot's of new members this weekend, not sure why but welcome all.

People want to see the Master Class I am giving on How Not To Invest.

 :D
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Post by: Patrick on May 04, 2015, 11:52:28 am
Anyone know what a brokers trustee fee is? I have the following lines on my account and I don't know what they're for. It's not for an admin fee as that one is called ADMIN FEES. Could it be related to the interest perhaps, as the amount changes depending on how much interest I pay. Anyone?
2015-04-30 JOURNAL GROSS INTEREST 15/03/28-15/04/30 R1,690.54CR R5,054.01CR
2015-04-30 JOURNAL BROKER TRUSTEES FEE R256.05DR R4,797.96CR
2015-04-30 JOURNAL VAT @ 14,00% R35.85DR R4,762.11CR
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Post by: gcr on May 04, 2015, 12:13:35 pm
I think all brokers are charging these fees - I am with Nedbank and there was an explanation some time back, I will see if I can find what they said this was a result of - what I do recall is that it is taken by the all consuming government (including the VAT)
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Post by: jaDEB on May 04, 2015, 01:44:55 pm
I also have it. But mine is small amount, packet of smokes :)
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Post by: ntshizat on May 05, 2015, 09:06:14 am
any idea on wer one can put away 20k
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Post by: Patrick on May 05, 2015, 09:18:35 am
Hi Ntshizat, how long do you want to put it away for? Are you putting any money into a tax free savings account yet? If you aren't that's a good option for the long term. Some details here: http://investorchallenge.co.za/lets-all-be-guilty-of-tax-avoidanc
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Post by: ntshizat on May 05, 2015, 09:36:53 am
Hi Patrick am putting away 2000 in tax free savings via old mutual since april. For 20 k am looking to put it away for long be it in unit trusts or shares
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Post by: Patrick on May 05, 2015, 10:40:22 am
Now while I'm not a licensed financial advisor, so I'm not allowed to tell you what to do, I can tell you what I do. I think unit trusts are too expensive, I wrote a blog about it actually. Instead I have an account with easy equities, and I use that to buy the satrix indi. It's done very very well over it's lifetime, and I expect it to keep doing better than the general South African market. Perhaps start a post in the shares forum and people will offer more advice.
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Post by: ntshizat on May 05, 2015, 10:58:48 am
thanks alot admin
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Post by: Orca on May 05, 2015, 11:45:18 am
NEWFSA was included at an anomalous price in the competition.
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Post by: Patrick on May 05, 2015, 02:02:18 pm
Yes I see that, I'll look into it.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 05, 2015, 04:50:51 pm
Can some1 please give APN some drugs......  :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on May 05, 2015, 05:10:33 pm
At least my buy high, sell low philosophy is still intact.
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Post by: Orca on May 05, 2015, 07:56:10 pm
APN is in a downtrend so stay out. No reversal in sight yet.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 06, 2015, 12:43:37 pm
Frikkie is getting a Hiding
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Post by: jaDEB on May 06, 2015, 12:59:59 pm
APN down 6% :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on May 06, 2015, 04:10:49 pm
Ass is flying :)
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Post by: jaDEB on May 06, 2015, 05:07:43 pm
IS alibaba results out tomorrow ?
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Post by: jaDEB on May 06, 2015, 05:28:34 pm
@ jaDEB - Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. will announce its earnings for the fiscal fourth quarter ended March 31 on Thursday before the U.S. market opens
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 08:36:16 am
Hold thumbs for alibab good results - then NPN will go up I hope
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 08:48:57 am
Alibaba & 10c is Chinese internet companies
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 08:49:25 am
Sry Morning qriffin.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 08:57:49 am
they are in competition
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 09:00:56 am
qriffin check -
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 09:01:00 am
http://www.sasol.com/investor-centre/financial-reporting/business-performance-metrics
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Post by: Patrick on May 07, 2015, 09:32:41 am
:(
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 10:08:19 am
:(
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 10:14:01 am
Frikkie getting hiding 2nd day in row.
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 07, 2015, 10:19:28 am
Ouch.

Think it's time to take a week off from looking at shares - looks like we going through a small correction - have no intention of selling, but watching my net worth being eroded is no fun ether  :(

See you next week

 :D
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 10:22:58 am
Nooooo   do not go ...... stay away from high places !!!
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 07, 2015, 11:05:14 am
Come-on, where's your fighting spirit?  :o
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 07, 2015, 11:57:08 am
Ouch.

Think it's time to take a week off from looking at shares - looks like we going through a small correction - have no intention of selling, but watching my net worth being eroded is no fun ether  :(

See you next week

 :D

Sorry, did I say 2 weeks.

What I mean't to say is "I have guests over so won't be checking on my stocks for 1 and 1/2 hours..."

Err, did I mention my lack of will power.

 :D
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Post by: jaDEB on May 07, 2015, 12:17:09 pm
lol
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Post by: morne1121 on May 07, 2015, 10:16:50 pm
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Post by: Orca on May 07, 2015, 11:05:43 pm
Reuters today predicted -15% to plus 11% by year end.
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Post by: Moonraker on May 08, 2015, 09:40:56 am
UK - Cameron to win. Great news for dual listeds BAT, SAB, MND, RPL £ up to 18.61.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 11, 2015, 04:40:06 pm
Why ACL down 7% ?
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Post by: Patrick on May 12, 2015, 11:56:06 am
So now that my app developing is done for a while, what should I write about next?
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Post by: jaDEB on May 12, 2015, 01:01:36 pm
Investor challenge - leaders & laggards
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Post by: gcr on May 12, 2015, 03:03:35 pm
So now that my app developing is done for a while, what should I write about next?
How about looking at these companies that have failed fallen in to business rescue and how culpable are the directors (those on the board at time of going into rescue and the previous board members who have ducked the ship) is there no recourse against these directors to get hold of their assets if they have taken out huge salaries and or sold of shares to escape getting caught with falling share prices. Some companies are in dire straits, were privatised and now want to come back to the JSE, - Edgars, Sportsman's Warehouse, Alert Steel, Coal of Africa, Gijima,  are just some of the companies who come to mind, but there are hoards more. Really looking at it from the perspective of where the companies have remained silent on conditions within the company, been cagey, directors selling off shares and then announcing the need for business rescue or have been privatised, and where did these director end up in a business sense - got another cushy job, or retired on their pickings   
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Post by: Patrick on May 12, 2015, 04:18:08 pm
@gcr, yes that is rather sickening. There's probably so much data to go through I'd need more than a month. Though I also suspect you'd be the better writer on that topic. I'd happily publish it if you did!
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Post by: Orca on May 12, 2015, 08:42:13 pm
FTSE 100 drops 2% and global stock markets tumble as the rout of expensive government bonds reignites
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 13, 2015, 09:55:42 am
So now that my app developing is done for a while, what should I write about next?

What happened to stocks in Zimbabwe?

Over the last 20 years including the hyperinflation years - did they hold value against the rand/dollar? If ZA heads south, how safe is our investments? Will dual listed shares be the way to go.

Just had a look at the zim ex website - it's actually quite nice. But trying to figure out on the price quoted for OK http://www.zimbabwe-stock-exchange.com/listed-company/OKZ/ is it 11 US c per share or 11$ per share? They mention a divided of 0.19 cents per share which makes me think it is 11USc - but they then deal in fractions of a cent when dealing - weird. Used to odd numbers when it comes to dividends though.
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Post by: Patrick on May 13, 2015, 10:16:30 am
I like that idea Mr D. I'll look into it for one of my blog posts.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 13, 2015, 02:01:03 pm
10c & NPN :)
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Post by: jaDEB on May 13, 2015, 03:25:51 pm
I SAID 10C & NPN ....... *&^%
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Post by: Patrick on May 13, 2015, 04:24:44 pm
Yes, my indi is thanking them too.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 13, 2015, 05:16:31 pm
Look at value traded in NPN :)
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Post by: Patrick on May 14, 2015, 11:18:44 am
naspers
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Post by: jaDEB on May 15, 2015, 08:44:28 am
Thanks Mr Bond & Patrick :)
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Post by: jaDEB on May 15, 2015, 08:45:03 am
OCE also Results & Cautionary :)
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Post by: jaDEB on May 15, 2015, 09:42:51 am
OCE :'(
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Post by: Datura on May 15, 2015, 10:00:35 am
My OCE just died :(
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Post by: Patrick on May 15, 2015, 10:10:13 am
Anyone know a good accountant? In jhb perhaps if possible. A collegue is leaving SA and needs to make sure her tax etc is in shape.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 15, 2015, 10:41:54 am
Charl is our guy and has been for years, very proficient, in Pretoria though.

Charl Mocke & Vennote
Midas Ave 17
Olympus, Pretoria
Email: [email protected]
Tel: 0861 268 268 / 012 991 4400
Fax: 0861 268 329 / 012 991 3001

http://prsync.com/cmv-group/cmv-group-one-stop-solution-for-accounting-in-pretoria-gauteng-625606/
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Post by: Patrick on May 15, 2015, 10:59:28 am
Thanks
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Post by: Orca on May 15, 2015, 12:33:53 pm
Hugo van Zyl. SA's top cross border tax CA and lecturer to SARS staff. The mere mention of his name to SARS gets them running. Very approachable and down to earth guy. Saved me plenty money for free.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 15, 2015, 12:59:20 pm
@ Datura - OCE real life or competition
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Post by: Patrick on May 15, 2015, 01:06:43 pm
Thanks Orca
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Post by: Datura on May 15, 2015, 01:25:35 pm
Comp
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Post by: Bloodburner9000 on May 15, 2015, 04:11:17 pm
I am beginning to think that the only way to do well in this compitition is to limit ones entire shareholding to a few (3) shares. Having good diversification will only ensure that one is not last on the leaderboard, and definitely not first.
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Post by: Patrick on May 15, 2015, 05:17:13 pm
Very true blood burner. Like in real life, higher risk can bring higher reward. Not sure I'd want to put all my real life money into so few shares though.l
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Post by: gcr on May 15, 2015, 06:44:41 pm
I don't know how many people read through the sens notifications out of the JSE daily - I tend to read extensively.
Ryan Otto of Ellies has taken many zero cost collars and many of them have ended up with what I think is a cost to him as the strike price and the execution price are a mismatch. Not sure how he is paying off these losses but I see many of these zero cost collars were "pursuant to a pledge and securities loan arrangement" Do we have a bright spark on this forum who can explain these zero cost collars and whether this Otto fellow is taking a bath or not. Also see that he holds some 8.57% of the companies shares Elli Salkow (the original owner now chairman) hold 29.27% and Mazi Capital - some obscure investment house hold 17.79% of Ellies
Anybody capable of throwing some light on this operation - I used to hold Ellies but got out when they were just over R 3.50 and now they are languishing at 97 cents
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 16, 2015, 09:57:33 pm
Very true blood burner. Like in real life, higher risk can bring higher reward. Not sure I'd want to put all my real life money into so few shares though.l

I am sure rules have been debated - and maybe the way you have it is best. I would be interested to see what the portfolios would be if you where not allowed to spend more than 20% of your total holdings on 1 share. I very quickly fell into the hold one share for big gains bucket - not that it worked for me, I'll be happy now just finishing in the 100's and getting out the 200's.

But then we might debate a person buying 5 junior coal miners and if that was realistic for an investment club - there will always be something!

Have found it very interesting - esp the way the ETF's perform. And kudo's on the programming - I am sure you command top dollar!
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 17, 2015, 08:36:26 pm
Tsk, tsk. Et tu Brute?
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Post by: Orca on May 18, 2015, 12:33:29 am
D Day for CML Monday.
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on May 18, 2015, 06:54:41 am
@GCR, I think its the opposite actually. The collar locks in a trading range and the difference is paid out.:
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on May 18, 2015, 06:55:02 am
@GCR Colalr explinatino: http://www.theoptionsguide.com/costless-collar.aspx
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 18, 2015, 08:17:51 am
Tsk, tsk. Et tu Brute?

Let me suck on my sour lemons in peace...

 :)
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Post by: Bevan on May 18, 2015, 09:07:56 am
... Ryan Otto of Ellies has taken many zero cost collars.....cents

GCR, as a major shareholder of Ellies Ryan would be wanting to protect his downside. He can do this by buying a put e.g. Ellies trading at spot of 120 cents, he would buy a put for a strike of 100 cents (for instance) and pay a premium of 2 cents (for example). However, he wouldn't want to pay this premium over millions of shares so he would then sell a call for a premium of 2 cents, thus making it a zero-cost collar. The strike price for the call would be worked out so that it is worth a premium of 2 cents e.g. strike could be 135 cents. Thus he gets downside protection but is exposed to risk on the upside. However, as he owns physical shares, his upside risk is negated because he can always sell his shares to cover any financial payout he would have to make if the call was exercised.
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Post by: Patrick on May 18, 2015, 11:41:40 am
D Day for CML Monday.
What's supposed to happen with CML today Orca?
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 18, 2015, 11:52:52 am
results should be out this week - show me that fat dividend!
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Post by: Orca on May 18, 2015, 12:40:39 pm
Correction. D Day for CML is tomorrow. FY results.
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Post by: Patrick on May 18, 2015, 12:57:59 pm
And kudo's on the programming - I am sure you command top dollar!

I do ok, but I'm paid to be a manager not a developer. I was paid to be a developer, but when you're good at something the powers that be make you stop doing that and start managing people who aren't as good. Makes no sense to me. They should hire a manager who's a good manager, and I'll do what I'm good at. The only other rule that needs to change is the one that says the manager should earn more than technical staff.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 18, 2015, 03:13:13 pm
I use to work with a Rep that was higher paid than manager, was very good in his Job, thus they could not make him manager.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2015, 08:10:18 am
CML results out.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2015, 08:25:28 am
PPC also
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Post by: Patrick on May 19, 2015, 09:02:20 am
Link please jadeb
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2015, 09:24:43 am
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mny_sens/coronation-fund-managers-limited-reviewed-interim-results-for-the-six-months-ended-31-march-2015/
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2015, 10:01:04 am
Please give me a share to add to my watchlist, PLEASE
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 19, 2015, 10:17:56 am
to do what with jaDEB, only to watch?
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2015, 10:20:26 am
To watch, the if like switch / buy
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Post by: Bevan on May 19, 2015, 10:23:18 am
jADEB, AECI - undervalued and should outperform long term if oil and gas prices stay low
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 19, 2015, 10:29:46 am
RFG
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2015, 10:50:23 am
jaDEb, also add EOH
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2015, 12:26:48 pm
Nice, my fishies is going off shore :)
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Post by: jaDEB on May 19, 2015, 12:28:48 pm
OCE
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on May 19, 2015, 05:38:52 pm
i really should have bought Calgro M3 for real...!! :-(
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Post by: Patrick on May 20, 2015, 09:00:52 am
If only foresight was as reliable as hindsight...
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Post by: jaDEB on May 20, 2015, 09:29:00 am
This is awesome site to use "https://itradedata.co.za/index/I_Fullname.htm"
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Post by: Datura on May 20, 2015, 09:44:21 am
Thanks, jaBEB.  That is awesome.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 20, 2015, 12:54:50 pm
Actually some1 else on this forum pasted it. thus cannot take credit for it. Just saying how nice it is.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 20, 2015, 02:27:34 pm
the Consensus Forecasts is also nice.
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Post by: Moonraker on May 20, 2015, 03:10:45 pm
Awesome = me http://shareforum.co.za/shares/my-retirement-blog/msg8198/#msg8198
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Post by: jaDEB on May 20, 2015, 03:32:02 pm
:) - Mr Bond
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Post by: Nivek on May 21, 2015, 10:03:36 am
Who saw the latest re etolls yesterday. No pay, no licence. makes me want to leave for greener shores.
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Post by: Orca on May 21, 2015, 10:39:55 am
Then don't come to Europe. E-Tolls everywhere here and no complaints.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 21, 2015, 11:23:35 am
Sanral is angelic compared to Bakwena, the real demon who flies under the radar with Sanral taking all the heat atm.  Sanral has a ceiling of R450 per car (not family), that means Sanral gets R900 pm from my husband and me, and Bakwena R12 or R10 one way (x4 = R48/day i.e. R1152/month give or take depending on movement.)  That's just over R2000 every month on tolls or R34 300 paid after tax since Jan 2013. Do you have any idea how infuriating this is?  :(
 
We had a vacation in the Italian Alps in 2008 and got a spot fine of 300 Euros because we didn't purchase a toll voucher from filling stations next to the highway, as if we should have known – guess the saw us coming from Afrique-de-Sud a mile away.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 21, 2015, 01:45:31 pm
Who called PPC the other day?
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Post by: Nivek on May 22, 2015, 11:08:59 am
That was Pilot, I'll find the thread.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 22, 2015, 12:00:07 pm
YEs,PiLOt, hOpE hE lisTNed tO HiMSElf
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 22, 2015, 12:33:20 pm
Anybody know where I can download movies to tablet without providing my credit card details first?
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Post by: jaDEB on May 22, 2015, 12:38:45 pm
Sies Tannie, I have NPN shares...
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 22, 2015, 12:46:41 pm
Too bad my boy  ;)  I do pay 4 US companies for streaming, not my fault if Dstv is so crappy and loaded with reality 'stars'.  Only problem, can't use US co's with LS, thus need a backup plan. So be a dear and tell me.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 22, 2015, 12:56:09 pm
Sry, have no idea. Do not watch much, more of a gamer, GTA V so on...
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Post by: Patrick on May 22, 2015, 01:19:20 pm
@moneypenny, look for popcorn time. It doesn't download though, it's like netflix for pirates.
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Post by: jaDEB on May 22, 2015, 02:58:54 pm
AVL needs to go above R2.60 :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 22, 2015, 03:49:08 pm
@P: arrr thanks matey.
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 23, 2015, 10:33:59 am
For interest sake, PopcornTime popped on Thursday, discontinued.
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Post by: Patrick on May 23, 2015, 11:12:44 am
No way. Oh dear. You could use Kodi with the genesis plugin. That's what I do, but it's a complicated set-up.
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Post by: Patrick on May 25, 2015, 07:48:00 am
Sad, his wife died too.
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on May 25, 2015, 11:06:43 am
Are realised losses offset against gains on sale in the game?
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on May 25, 2015, 11:07:05 am
The tax benefit that is.
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Post by: Patrick on May 25, 2015, 11:22:56 am
They are, the tax works on net profit.
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Post by: Orca on May 25, 2015, 12:23:37 pm
Greece admits it cannot find the €1,6b.
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Post by: Orca on May 25, 2015, 03:28:36 pm
Why can I not get into Sharenet site or Imara today. Can't see any prices the whole day.
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Post by: Patrick on May 25, 2015, 04:00:49 pm
No idea, possibly a break somewhere between here and Portugal.
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Post by: Patrick on May 26, 2015, 02:40:33 pm
Anyone here running solar, or planning on putting some solar in soon?
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Post by: Moonraker on May 26, 2015, 03:52:04 pm
Solar in George not much good - not enough sunny days. Using UPS inverter and batteries.
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Post by: Nivek on May 26, 2015, 04:25:04 pm
Why is the market in such a bad mood today?
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Post by: gcr on May 26, 2015, 04:30:56 pm
New York and London both down after the holidays yesterday and probably Greece saying they will only pay back what they can afford to pay back on their loans
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 27, 2015, 10:12:04 am
Anyone here running solar, or planning on putting some solar in soon?

I've looked at it - but cannot make it work financially even slightly. The odd 2 hours power outage really does not bother me - I just go do something else. We usually have something to watch on the few laptops dotted around the house if at night - but if we get hit is normally between 14H00 - 16H00 - not a bad time for a nap.

Might get an inverter (around R1000 / 800w) and just attached it to the car battery to run tv/dstv/router - friend does that and works fine. personally, I think it's a case of going totally of grid or do something small and inexpensive. Probably would change my mind if we had 4 hour cuts regularly though... ???
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Post by: jaDEB on May 27, 2015, 10:12:16 am
Frikkie getting hiding 2nd day in row. :'(
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Post by: Datura on May 27, 2015, 12:19:14 pm
OCE killing me.  Wow!  
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Post by: Patrick on May 27, 2015, 02:53:04 pm
Yes, my account is also pretty miserable today. And I bought on Monday :(
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Post by: Orca on May 27, 2015, 03:17:31 pm
I could have bought a top end four by four with what I lost.
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 27, 2015, 03:55:47 pm
Concentrating on the French Open - not my shares at the moment...

 ;)
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Post by: Patrick on May 27, 2015, 04:05:40 pm
When you're just after dividends you can afford to care less about share prices. In fact lower prices means you can buy more with a higher yield.
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on May 28, 2015, 11:10:47 am
You could have also bought KIO for the share price - many have done so.

As I live on dividends and only dividends, the increases or decreases are more important to me than share price. But I do no buy purely on DY - I never did buy ABL  8)
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Post by: Supersonicbaron on May 28, 2015, 03:44:52 pm
Can anyone help me make sense of the TFG slaughter


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Post by: jaDEB on May 28, 2015, 03:50:49 pm
Results is out @ 14h00
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Post by: gcr on May 28, 2015, 03:53:26 pm
Can't see a reason - in late March they announced that Sanlam had increased its holding in TFG
Also results released are not too shabby given the current economic situation and dividend increased by 10.9%
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Post by: Supersonicbaron on May 28, 2015, 03:54:38 pm
I'm no expert but the results looked ok I guess - might want to enter a derivative  tomorrow morning as there might be some money to be made from this over reaction


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Post by: Nivek on May 29, 2015, 03:49:28 pm
More pain in my portfolio today.
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Post by: Moonraker on May 29, 2015, 05:43:05 pm
ADH &COH ^
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Post by: Moneypenny on May 30, 2015, 12:54:19 pm
@ Supersonicbaron:  Also not an expert but look at the SFP, an increase in the interest bearing borrowings of R2 000m. Investigation into the SCF reveals a negative cash flow from operations despite the profit shown in SPLOCI.  To reverse the negative cash flow, TFG made borrowings of about R2 000m (also shown in SCF, in the cash from financing section.) This coupled with a rise in interest rates expected at the end of this year is enough to make investors fearful imo and that's why TFG is tanking. Nothing like a R2b+ interest bearing monster lurking to make you run for the hills. But yeah, no expert, just an opinion.

SFP:  Statement of Financial Position
SPLOCI: Statement of Profit or Loss and Other Comprehensive Income.
SCF:  Statement of Cash Flows
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Post by: jaDEB on June 01, 2015, 09:14:54 am
Patrick ?
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Post by: Shi on June 01, 2015, 09:49:14 am
Were we allocated 200K this morning instead of 100K?
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 01, 2015, 09:59:06 am
You want us to spend it P, we can. ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on June 01, 2015, 10:00:09 am
Yes, that is why I is asking Patrick ? I allready used mine :)
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Post by: jaDEB on June 01, 2015, 10:01:09 am
Rand R12.27 :'(
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 01, 2015, 10:01:22 am
lol, you're going to get a huge fine.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 01, 2015, 10:25:47 am
Shhh, do not tell him, he will never know :)
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Post by: Patrick on June 01, 2015, 10:51:33 am
No way, how on earth did that happen! I'll have to reverse it...
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Post by: Patrick on June 01, 2015, 10:52:30 am
Or alternatively, just leave it in the game, as it's equal for all. Thoughts?
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Post by: Patrick on June 01, 2015, 10:54:24 am
Damn, all the ETF's also spent the full amount. No idea why it went through double either :(
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Post by: Patrick on June 01, 2015, 10:58:31 am
Call it Bonus time perhaps?
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on June 01, 2015, 11:09:50 am
As you say, even for all so no problem
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 01, 2015, 11:15:09 am
Agree
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Post by: jaDEB on June 01, 2015, 11:16:05 am
Agreed, all got R200k, a bonus. :)
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Post by: Patrick on June 01, 2015, 01:08:30 pm
Excellent, let's see how useful it can be...
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Post by: Orca on June 01, 2015, 01:18:11 pm
How about adding TCP to the challenge list P.
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Post by: gcr on June 01, 2015, 10:33:09 pm
Patrick - you have a facility I think it is per the heading "my holdings" where you have the facility to "sell" a particular counter, can you not incorporate a "buy" tab whereby I may want to purchase additional shares in an already held counter.
Just a thought
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Post by: Patrick on June 02, 2015, 09:03:53 am
@gcr, it could be done. I'll see if I can include it for you.
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Post by: Patrick on June 02, 2015, 09:04:30 am
@Orca, don't know much about it, is it frequently traded (16 or more times a day)?
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Post by: Patrick on June 02, 2015, 09:04:57 am
I may hold back next months distribution, otherwise all new participants will be R100k short...
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Post by: Patrick on June 02, 2015, 11:46:39 am
@qriffin, I'll mail you.
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Post by: Datura on June 02, 2015, 02:45:19 pm
Neither are mine.  They display with negative growth :(
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Post by: Patrick on June 02, 2015, 07:14:56 pm
Hahaha Datura, wish that was a bug, sadly my real portfolio is down plenty in the last few weeks!
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Post by: Patrick on June 02, 2015, 08:48:13 pm
Going to have to reverse the extra R100k, it's messing up all the background calculations :(
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Post by: Patrick on June 02, 2015, 08:48:54 pm
If you've already spent it, you'll just have negative cash until next month.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 03, 2015, 08:17:25 am
NIce, now I am in sh&t in real life and in the game, debt up to my %$#
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Post by: Patrick on June 03, 2015, 08:31:11 am
Haha!
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Post by: jaDEB on June 03, 2015, 08:38:29 am
Can I pay it over 36 months ?
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Post by: Patrick on June 03, 2015, 08:57:28 am
Sure, but I charge the same rates as Wonga.com, 953.49% p/a.
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Post by: Patrick on June 03, 2015, 08:57:36 am
Ok, we're all poor again
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Post by: jaDEB on June 03, 2015, 09:17:54 am
u mean still....
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Post by: Patrick on June 03, 2015, 09:29:58 am
No I was rich a few weeks ago, then grexit reared it's head :(
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Post by: Moonraker on June 03, 2015, 09:31:48 am
After reading Patrick's 'Selfish Old Man Disease' I am sure he would 'enjoy' excerpts from
R.W. Johnson's book 'How Long Will South Africa Survive'.

South Africa's looming crisis (http://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/south-africas-looming-crisis)

You're looking at about 2 years mate. Let's not even think about the ROE.


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Post by: jaDEB on June 03, 2015, 09:33:43 am
Lady sitting next to me just got retrenched... and we thing we are having a sh&t day :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on June 03, 2015, 04:05:17 pm
EOH down 7%? does we know why?
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 03, 2015, 08:12:10 pm
Can I just say, we all suck big time on the IC, painful to watch. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on June 04, 2015, 08:07:57 am
lol
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Post by: jaDEB on June 04, 2015, 08:09:08 am
R$ 12.36
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Post by: Patrick on June 04, 2015, 08:27:30 am
I don't mind when the JSE drops, but I do mind when it drops while the rest of the world doesn't...
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Post by: 100ways on June 04, 2015, 10:06:16 am
Hudaco down 5% should hopefully recover by end of the day :TU:
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Post by: jonb on June 04, 2015, 10:18:55 am
I know markets go up and down but JSE lately! last 2 weeks have been heart attack material. I am not based in SA. Is it worth it keeping it going over there? possibly better to sit in EU or U :wall:S instead. Any good reasons to stay in ZA? appreciate any feedback
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on June 04, 2015, 11:00:13 am
Jonb - is this market related or in general? If asking about the market, the JSE has done very well since 2008 - better than many others (not so sure if dollar denominated though?)  so a correction was due - no need to panic there. If this question was about where SA is going generally - well, with our current leadership - no where, only down. The bigger question is where it will stop - and if you happy living in that sort of country. Most of the smart SA companies have been operating abroad or in Africa for a while - and most seem to want to increase there non rand exposure.

The ANC, having buggered up most of the departments and government entities under it's charge, have now moved onto tourism and big agri.    :LHST:
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Post by: jaDEB on June 04, 2015, 11:26:01 am
I agree, currently I buy shares that has more exposure outside RSA
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Post by: Orca on June 04, 2015, 11:46:48 am
This is more "volatility" than a "correction". The TOPI and the IND25 have lost 5% only so far. A "correction" would be over 8% according to analysts.
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Post by: jonb on June 04, 2015, 11:54:04 am
good feedback! yes, I meant the recent performance on JSE. Its hard not to tie the current shitbag of stuff going down politically to weaker performance . So to get it straight... good solid companies that are deriving most earnings in an overseas of African market are still considered good bets? Think i need to re-align a little!
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Post by: 100ways on June 04, 2015, 12:13:21 pm
There is a lot of good value stocks on the JSE, look at the miners - no one wants to touch them and just dump the stocks. Very cheap prices and if we had another crash in the market and further strikes these will be dumped and pushed even lower. I am liking Lonmin, Amplats, Kumba, Anglo all looking good. Also in the education sector Curro and Adhvtech are solid business and will keep growing for the future. Also like Santova & Kap looking cheap and well run business. Lots of opportunities in the market. :D
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Post by: jaDEB on June 04, 2015, 03:26:51 pm
Frikkie kry pakslae version 1.02
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Post by: Orca on June 04, 2015, 04:07:21 pm
CML BP Trust purchased R100M shares on market at 8800.
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Post by: Orca on June 04, 2015, 06:45:02 pm
You are misunderstanding. CML bought R100M of it's own shares on market. Not TOTAL shares traded.
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Post by: Patrick on June 05, 2015, 12:25:31 pm
Rand is really being pounded lately.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 07, 2015, 10:40:32 am
Fitch affirmed its BBB rating with a negative outlook for South Africa on Friday, saying an inadequate and unstable electricity supply, had led it to cut economic growth forecasts for this year and the next
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Post by: gcr on June 08, 2015, 09:54:20 pm
Well that's not so bad our market is now 51,623.30 (ALSI today) the last time it was at these levels was July 2, 2014 when the ALSI got to an all time high of 51,883.71 so our market is substantially down. It got to an all time high on 24/04/2015 of 55,298.92 so we have seen a substantial retracement 8)
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Post by: Patrick on June 09, 2015, 10:39:43 am
So, armed robbery at the office last night. Stole a bunch of stuff including my laptop :(
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Post by: jaDEB on June 09, 2015, 11:08:39 am
Sry :'(
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Post by: JDP on June 09, 2015, 11:11:04 am
Eish, sorry to hear that. Hope nobody got hurt?
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Post by: Patrick on June 09, 2015, 11:46:57 am
No, they tied up the security guards but never hurt anyone. Strangely they got hold of the security company management uniforms, so the guards opened the gate for them...
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 09, 2015, 11:56:54 am
The arrogance of those idiots :mad: Glad you're ok, although when we had a 2am home invasion I didn't want to feel okay, I just wanted to smash their heads in, tmi I know.
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Post by: Patrick on June 09, 2015, 01:49:28 pm
Yes, head smashing would be nice. My laptop has teamviewer installed, so I'll be watching to see if it comes online.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 09, 2015, 04:02:27 pm
Frikkie kry pakslae version 1.03
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Post by: jaDEB on June 10, 2015, 02:01:54 pm
OCE :'(
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Post by: Datura on June 10, 2015, 02:24:19 pm
OCE has done me in :(
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Post by: jaDEB on June 10, 2015, 04:49:34 pm
Sold AVL, bought more OCE @ R86.50.. wish me luck
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Post by: jaDEB on June 11, 2015, 08:18:29 am
Today is the first release of Frikkie Recover BETA version 1.00
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Post by: Patrick on June 11, 2015, 08:26:36 am
Haha, if you say so, it's been a depressing month to track my holdings!
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Post by: jaDEB on June 11, 2015, 03:19:01 pm
IS there really a share on JSE called Choppies ?
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Post by: gcr on June 11, 2015, 03:55:26 pm
Absolutely correct - it is a Nigerian Company. CHP - supposedly they can't spell so well in that country and so used an "o" instead of an "a" :LHST:
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Post by: jaDEB on June 11, 2015, 04:16:23 pm
lol
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Post by: khakibrook on June 11, 2015, 04:17:42 pm
I recall Choppies stores in Botswana, rural Spar/Shoprite like. Bought many succulent looking red meat cuts, tasted strangely sweet for beef though. KB
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Post by: gcr on June 11, 2015, 06:22:21 pm
I recall Choppies stores in Botswana, rural Spar/Shoprite like. Bought many succulent looking red meat cuts, tasted strangely sweet for beef though. KB
My apologies it is a Botswana company - and operates in Botswana and Zimbabwe and RSA
I hear donkey and horse are sweeter than beef - but haven't tried to test this myself, nor am I likely >:D
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Post by: jaDEB on June 12, 2015, 09:04:45 am
Can u buy just 1 share in Itrade ?
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 12, 2015, 09:54:42 am
you try that jaDEB, and tell us what was brokers fee on that.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 12, 2015, 10:15:42 am
Allready traded, cannot see trade cost - R12000 Profit :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 12, 2015, 10:16:46 am
Wow, nice going jaDEB :)
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Post by: Patrick on June 12, 2015, 12:41:53 pm
What did you buy??
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Post by: gcr on June 12, 2015, 04:41:29 pm
Patrick - a question - you gifted us an additional R 100,000 and some of us climbed into the market immediately (like me) I am sitting with a negative balance of R 96,xxx. What happens if I sell a particular share, will I be restricted in buying shares with the proceeds of the sale or will the system allow me to go back into negative territory up to R 100,000?
Ta
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Post by: Patrick on June 12, 2015, 06:04:38 pm
Unfortunately you won't be able to buy until you're in positive balance again Gcr.
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Post by: gcr on June 13, 2015, 03:10:32 pm
So the trick is to not sell any shares in ones portfolio until after 1/7/2015 ::)
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Post by: Bevan on June 15, 2015, 11:49:27 am
assuming the market hasn't crashed by then.... feels very top heavy right now...
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Post by: Bevan on June 15, 2015, 11:55:22 am
am expecting to see Brent crude in $50 range this week... equities also feel bearish
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Post by: Patrick on June 15, 2015, 08:05:43 pm
I have a feeling it'll be edging even more fearful in the next few days
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Post by: Patrick on June 16, 2015, 07:13:17 am
Seems we just dropped another 2 points and crossed the line to "Extreme Fear"
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Post by: jaDEB on June 17, 2015, 08:03:10 am
I am releasing Frikkie Recovery BETA version 8.1 today
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Post by: Patrick on June 17, 2015, 08:38:08 am
I hope that's better than windows 8.1
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Post by: Bevan on June 17, 2015, 09:17:13 am
Market is strangely upbeat at moment but Dow needs to get above 18100 to get out of this mini bear run...
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Post by: benched68 on June 17, 2015, 05:29:24 pm
-900 alsi tomorrow!
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Post by: Charl on June 18, 2015, 11:39:04 am
afrisam
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Post by: jaDEB on June 19, 2015, 11:44:59 am
Why is Novus up 12% ?
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Post by: 100ways on June 22, 2015, 01:53:09 pm
BSR -15% today :TU:
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Post by: Lamak on June 22, 2015, 01:58:22 pm
BOWCALF
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Post by: gcr on June 23, 2015, 11:45:40 am
I see Ellies is going ahead with its rights issue - you can get some 40 odd shares for every 100 held at a price of R 1.10 - wow that's a bargain given that they are trading at between 88 and 94 cents today. Once the new shares come onto the market it will dilute the overall position and probably take the price down further. Wonder what they know that everybody else doesn't regarding the rights offer price - I can see a huge take up of these shares
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Post by: Patrick on June 23, 2015, 12:35:37 pm
Oh dear, poor ellies holders. This competition has a general rule that rights offers MUST be enforced...
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Post by: Moneypenny on June 23, 2015, 03:00:25 pm
5 more members to 1000, time for on-line PAR-TY :)
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Post by: JDP on June 23, 2015, 03:22:51 pm
see someone sold there Santova shares for 13 cents per share ;)
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Post by: gcr on June 23, 2015, 03:47:49 pm
see someone sold there Santova shares for 13 cents per share ;)
Someones broker didn't protect the client - at least my broker gets you to check volume and price if outside of normal trading patterns
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Post by: Patrick on June 23, 2015, 04:09:00 pm
@jaDEB, poor guy, how many shares were sold? @MoneyPenny, yeah it took a few years though!
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Post by: gcr on June 23, 2015, 06:16:38 pm
13,000 shares at 13 cents instead of about 305/310 sales were as high as 342
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Post by: Orca on June 23, 2015, 08:34:43 pm
That guy had R43k and now has R1 690 less expenses but I am sure it was an anomaly fixed by JSE and he lost nothing as the price was corrected immediately.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 24, 2015, 02:45:15 pm
NPN results out tomorrow ?
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Post by: Patrick on June 25, 2015, 08:04:32 am
Anyone know where I can chart our local ETFs in dollar terms?
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Post by: jaDEB on June 25, 2015, 10:36:30 am
nO SRY
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Post by: Patrick on June 25, 2015, 11:37:24 am
I'll have to flex my excel skills...
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Post by: Orca on June 25, 2015, 11:53:16 am
I have daily FX rates from 1999 to date if that will help.
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Post by: letlhogonolo on June 25, 2015, 12:20:43 pm
Telkom is on fire
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Post by: Nivek on June 25, 2015, 02:00:36 pm
A little sad you sold yesterday I imagine :p
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Post by: jaDEB on June 25, 2015, 02:01:21 pm
Telkom Sa Soc Limited - Further Cautionary Announcement Relating To Negotiations With Mtn South Africa
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Post by: Patrick on June 25, 2015, 02:06:30 pm
Ah that makes an interesting deal. Voda+Neotel and MTN+Telkom...
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Post by: Orca on June 25, 2015, 03:06:21 pm
Sold my beloved CML.
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Post by: Patrick on June 25, 2015, 03:16:57 pm
Did you have to pay any capital gains tax?
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Post by: Orca on June 25, 2015, 04:01:08 pm
Bought at R24.70 and sold at R83.80 but no tax as I have exemption.
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Post by: gcr on June 25, 2015, 04:46:29 pm
The more important question is what are you going to do with the proceeds. As alternatives could suggest Mr Price and Cashbuild, AVI, Woolworths and even Clicks as good options
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Post by: jaDEB on June 25, 2015, 05:00:47 pm
Damn, the end of the world is near, been following Orca / CML saga for years now...   :'(
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Post by: Orca on June 25, 2015, 05:18:06 pm
Want to buy DIVTRX but not enough sellers and volume too small.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 25, 2015, 05:39:25 pm
Are u going all girly on me now !!
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Post by: Orca on June 25, 2015, 06:07:48 pm
Bought some CIL today jaDEB.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 29, 2015, 08:11:01 am
Releasing Frikkie kry pakslae update today, ver 1.12
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Post by: Patrick on June 29, 2015, 08:17:34 am
Fear and greed at 34, we've had much worse.
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Post by: jaDEB on June 29, 2015, 10:40:42 am
That is cause Tencent was down 4%, do u not read "Today outlook" ?
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Post by: jaDEB on June 29, 2015, 10:41:12 am
But NPN results out tonight
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Post by: Patrick on June 29, 2015, 12:20:25 pm
Looks like everything is down today...
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Post by: jaDEB on June 29, 2015, 12:22:19 pm
Yes, ver 1.12 seems to be the better version so far
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Post by: jaDEB on June 29, 2015, 01:28:29 pm
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on June 29, 2015, 05:55:09 pm
South African gold firms offer workers wage hikes of up to 13 pct WOW
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Post by: Orca on July 01, 2015, 12:16:08 pm
Greek PM accepts bailout conditions with creditors.
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Post by: Datura on July 01, 2015, 01:16:59 pm
Off to Greece tomorrow :)
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Post by: Patrick on July 01, 2015, 03:05:09 pm
If he accepted does that mean the referendum is off?
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Post by: Orca on July 01, 2015, 03:34:47 pm
News just out. Merkel wants to wait for the referendum results.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 03, 2015, 02:21:06 pm
Ask her if she will buy ACL at the moment or KIO ?
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Post by: jaDEB on July 03, 2015, 02:22:12 pm
It is school holiday, thus MoneyPenny absent ... AGAIN !!
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Post by: jaDEB on July 03, 2015, 02:32:57 pm
She recons NPN is the best since Tencents  :)
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Post by: jaDEB on July 03, 2015, 02:35:42 pm
lol , You are currently ranked 7071st of 6232 users. I am past last LOL
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Post by: jaDEB on July 03, 2015, 03:19:09 pm
I bought ACL @ R11.83
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Post by: gcr on July 03, 2015, 06:45:57 pm
Salam must be bleeding - I have just tried to accesss  my portfolio on I Trade to see how I was doing but was told the page is not available. So no more interest in this competition by me from now on
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Post by: Patrick on July 06, 2015, 11:04:58 am
In the USA you probably need divorce insurance...
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Post by: Patrick on July 07, 2015, 10:17:54 am
@Orca, came across this recently: http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mymoney/moneyweb-financial-planning/coronation-peregrine-or-anchor-where-should-you-invest/
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Post by: jaDEB on July 07, 2015, 05:02:36 pm
Frikkie kry pakslae version 1.03 is awesome :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 08, 2015, 10:37:48 am
What's up sweeties? Nothing it seems, lol.
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Post by: Patrick on July 08, 2015, 11:09:25 am
Haha yeah, absolutely nothing up at the moment. I'm using it as an opportunity to rebalance my holdings without incurring big CGT.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 08, 2015, 12:14:24 pm
Now that's a very positive spin on CGT 😀  - it sucks, my husband exercised some options 2 weeks ago luckily before plunge, he got 90K, tax took almost 70K.
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Post by: Orca on July 08, 2015, 02:09:40 pm
Greece given until Sunday to agree a debt deal or exit the euro
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Post by: Moonraker on July 09, 2015, 12:36:26 pm
Mobius: China’s “extreme, desperate” actions add to pain of share mkt crash

The best time to judge the character of people is during times of crisis. For the world’s major investors, in this respect China’s authorities have been weighed and found wanting. The world’s leading Emerging Markets investment personality, Mark Mobius, is among the big money managers who are highly critical of the Chinese reaction to its market’s boom and bust. Half of the listed companies have simply suspended trading in their shares. And after other interventions failed, China’s Government has now banned big investors from selling their stakes in those businesses where trading is still allowed. At a Berkshire Hathaway AGM a while back, chairman Warren Buffett was asked whether he would invest in Russia, the “hot” market at that time. He said he wouldn’t, recounting his experience of some years earlier. Buffett had helped fund an exploration business which battled for years to discover anything meaningful. When it eventually hit a good deposit, Russian politicians claim-jumped it and the team of explorers had to run for their lives leaving behind all their equipment – and wiping out years of investment. In their efforts to address the collapse of an overheated share market, Chinese authorities now risk doubling its impact by alienating those who control the world’s long-term investment capital. Those of the ilk of Mobius and Buffett have long memories. – Alec Hogg

Link to full article (http://www.biznews.com/global-investing/2015/07/09/mobius-chinas-extreme-desperate-actions-add-to-pain-of-share-mkt-crash/)

I agree, don't think we have seen the end of the drama.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 09, 2015, 03:58:52 pm
Patrick, my screen is not working, who is tenth ?
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Post by: Patrick on July 09, 2015, 04:04:23 pm
DBX tracker Japan why ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on July 09, 2015, 04:24:07 pm
pfffttt ... Sanlam iTrade is much better comp..
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Post by: jaDEB on July 09, 2015, 04:44:03 pm
what a bunch of .... "The leaderboard is being updated."
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Post by: Orca on July 09, 2015, 08:48:11 pm
Profit take Friday? H&S on the ALSI makes me think this surge was technical only.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 10, 2015, 09:18:38 am
I send the head on sanlamitrade mail, told him his comp sucks and they are not serious about it.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 10, 2015, 09:52:31 am
Shame, their PR didn't go so well.
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Post by: gcr on July 10, 2015, 11:00:23 am
Sanlam have run this competition on numerous occasions but this year everything that could go wrong has - it almost seems like it is a beta version we are "supposedly" playing with
Today all my profits have been zeroed and and my overall portfolio value has dropped by some R 13,000 - can't fathom whats going on.
I have withdrawn from this competition as its a joke
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Post by: jaDEB on July 13, 2015, 06:27:54 pm
NPN :)
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Post by: Orca on July 13, 2015, 06:34:31 pm
Why was DIVTRX flat today?
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Post by: Orca on July 13, 2015, 09:51:27 pm
Because of LEW and WBO you fool. Geez. This Orca guy knows nuting.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 14, 2015, 08:57:32 am
China's state-backed Tsinghua Unigroup Ltd is preparing a $23 billion bid for U.S. memory chip maker Micron Technology Inc
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Post by: wyn on July 16, 2015, 04:08:47 pm
my holdings
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Post by: Orca on July 16, 2015, 08:17:56 pm
Dear wine. You have no holdings. Only wine.
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Post by: Patrick on July 17, 2015, 11:51:35 am
Just had the 1000th member sign up :)
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on July 18, 2015, 07:47:52 am
Probably my wife wanting to meet Jadeb after his appearance in the top 20 in the iTrade comp



 :(

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Post by: Moonraker on July 18, 2015, 03:13:38 pm
Taste or Famous Brands ? Me = FBR
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on July 18, 2015, 04:30:17 pm
Taste for me - although I am guessing it will take a fair amount of time to start seeing results coming through - so a longer term play.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 19, 2015, 07:53:53 pm
@MrD: Good, the lady know what she likes. :) Well done jaDEB!
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Post by: jaDEB on July 20, 2015, 08:30:40 am
Thanks for the support, sold my ACL, thus I think I is way down now... :'(
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Post by: gcr on July 20, 2015, 08:55:26 am
Patrick - saw your comment and pointer re active versus passive investor managerson moneyweb - touche
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Post by: Patrick on July 20, 2015, 09:14:32 am
Thanks GCR, it's a presonal bone of contention of mine, as I have 35% of my investments in active (my early years investing), and can't move it without heavy capital gains tax :(
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Post by: jaDEB on July 20, 2015, 10:37:51 am
You are currently ranked 24th of 7486 users
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Post by: gcr on July 20, 2015, 11:23:40 am
Thanks GCR, it's a presonal bone of contention of mine, as I have 35% of my investments in active (my early years investing), and can't move it without heavy capital gains tax :(
I had a similar problem but I have sold off the majority of my Mutual funds with the exception of Nedbank Entrepreneur, and more recently Coronation Top 20 ( I cancelled all my life cover and use the premiums by sinking them into the Coronation fund along with my RA premiums (I bought an LA)).
It may pay you to take the knock on the CGT on sale and invest in other instruments which more than likely offset your CGT in about 3 years - I found that UT capital appreciation is pretty pedestrian these days   
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Post by: Patrick on July 20, 2015, 12:40:13 pm
I do keep weighing up the options, comparing the tax hit to potential growth, but I don't have an answer just yet. It's highly likely I'll spend 6 months and a day outside of SA in the next few years, so that would be the ideal time to do it.

In the meantime, I keep taking out as much as I can with the R30k exemption. This year it works out to about R80k, but using the 4% rule and the decreasing amount I can withdraw in the R30k exemption, it means I'm never able to get the money out! First world problems...
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Post by: kolbec on July 20, 2015, 01:34:05 pm
coh
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Post by: gcr on July 21, 2015, 06:52:33 pm
Saw the sens for the respective DBX's and the management fees seem very steep
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on July 22, 2015, 05:31:14 am
They are for an ETF but probably still reasonable compared to taking your money out, exchanging it, getting an overseas broker, and then buying a some stock. But would be interesting if one of the big banks started an oversea ETF.
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Post by: Patrick on July 22, 2015, 07:27:30 am
Yeah I wish there was a cheaper option too. DBX is far too expensive for my taste.
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Post by: gcr on July 22, 2015, 08:48:38 am
Well if one looks at the DBXUS its gross foreign dividend and other income earned works out to .24823 cents per unit with a .10134 cents per unit management fee - which is some 40.8% of gross income of per unit, and withholding tax taking 14.77%.
My point is that this investment is probably not an investment to invest in if one was looking for dividend streams as a means of support over the long term
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Post by: jaDEB on July 22, 2015, 04:34:14 pm
Is some1 running Frikkie kry pakslae ver 1.03 ?
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Post by: Orca on July 22, 2015, 09:56:49 pm
My stocks gave me a  pakslae today but MTA kept me buoyant with over 4% gain. 
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Post by: gcr on July 22, 2015, 11:23:48 pm
My stocks gave me a  pakslae today but MTA kept me buoyant with over 4% gain.
The whole market took a hit today my portfolio dropped R 64,000 but over the last 2 weeks it gained by about R 120,000 so swings and roundabouts
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Post by: Orca on July 23, 2015, 01:25:31 pm
Trading Statement catapults AdaptIt over 5%. :)
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Post by: Lamak on July 24, 2015, 12:16:33 pm
Can we get bowler metcalf on the share list to buy please?
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Post by: Patrick on July 24, 2015, 12:38:29 pm
It can be done if it trades more than 16 times a day. I don't have figures on that, anyone know if it does?
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Post by: Orca on July 24, 2015, 03:49:55 pm
Coronation AUM down by R1b.
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Post by: gcr on July 24, 2015, 04:18:30 pm
May be as a result of Africa Bank?
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Post by: Orca on July 24, 2015, 06:27:52 pm
No. Nett foreign capital outflow.
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Post by: chang9015 on July 25, 2015, 10:55:14 am
wonder if this EM sell off is going to continue into next week...
CML YTD -30.79%
looks bleak
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Post by: Orca on July 25, 2015, 08:35:20 pm
That is why MoneyWeb recommends PGR over CML.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 27, 2015, 10:09:47 am
Uuugh, damage control.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 27, 2015, 10:31:18 am
agreed ....
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Post by: chang9015 on July 27, 2015, 11:28:59 am
chinas in the poop again
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Post by: Orca on July 27, 2015, 05:03:31 pm
Shanghai Composite fell 8.5% today sending the Eurozone down in her wake.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 27, 2015, 05:23:29 pm
It is cause u moved closer to China... u fault :)
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Post by: Orca on July 27, 2015, 10:01:10 pm
No. I think the Chinks had a look at my portfolio and saw the bad state of the economy in it.
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on July 29, 2015, 11:19:18 am
Some PNC holders will be having a good time right meow
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Post by: Orca on July 29, 2015, 12:36:36 pm
That's due to Windows 10 out today.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 29, 2015, 12:44:17 pm
ag damn, that means all my games are going to have updates .... frikkie .. damn
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on July 29, 2015, 02:07:04 pm
Auto updates on my phone and PC is killing my cap lately }:/
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on July 29, 2015, 02:09:18 pm
Windows 10 is a free update anyway so what's the draw ?
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Post by: Datura on July 29, 2015, 03:01:52 pm
PFG behaving nicely.
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Post by: Datura on July 29, 2015, 03:02:01 pm
/jinx
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Post by: Orca on July 29, 2015, 08:21:15 pm
I wonder why Sharenet shows only 0,15% gain for DIVTRX while it went up over !%?
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Post by: chang9015 on July 30, 2015, 07:31:31 am
Google finance also shows 0.15?
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Post by: Patrick on July 30, 2015, 09:06:22 am
Midpoint of the current spread is 2746, so it likely had a higher value than indicated last night, it just never traded there.
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Post by: Moneypenny on July 30, 2015, 09:14:35 am
My heart bleeds for Cecil (and his descendants). What an undignified end to such a magnificent beast. :(
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Post by: Patrick on July 30, 2015, 11:07:42 am
Yes, on the bright side, it looks like the dental practice is getting nailed in the states. Hopefully the hunters will be too scared of the backlash in future.
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Post by: Moonraker on July 30, 2015, 01:00:10 pm
Badly want to arrange for the hunters to be hunted. May finally get a nice pair of cojones dangling from my rear view mirror.
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Post by: jaDEB on July 30, 2015, 04:34:21 pm
Lonmin shares hit lowest levels since 1979
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Post by: jaDEB on July 31, 2015, 03:38:44 pm
Wife got retrenched today :'( .... and goverment says unemployment down, which planet I wonder ...
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Post by: BussoV6 on July 31, 2015, 04:14:49 pm
Wife got retrenched today :'( .... and goverment says unemployment down, which planet I wonder ...

 :'(   Not very good news! What line of work is she in?
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Post by: Patrick on August 01, 2015, 07:35:35 am
Sorry to hear jaDEB, was there at least a decent payout to hold her over until she finds another job?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 01, 2015, 08:24:11 am
She was in steel industry payout small. But will make a plan. Busy with sign for standing at robot :)
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on August 01, 2015, 10:52:03 am
Eish - tough one. Hope she finds a job soon.

I always find a san serif type font works best for my "no work, no money, no prospects signs"  but will be refreshing to hear your take on the matter.

 :D

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Post by: Moneypenny on August 01, 2015, 02:58:06 pm
Shame, sorry to hear - be kind to each other, this too shall pass eventually. Good luck to you both.
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Post by: Delusionsofgrandeur on August 02, 2015, 11:17:04 pm
dsv
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Post by: jaDEB on August 03, 2015, 08:24:21 am
No Mr D, the sign needs look poor and have spelling mistakes.
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Post by: Orca on August 03, 2015, 09:36:38 am
@Patrick. I bought PGR yesterday and it went post divi today so I should get the divi of 150c.
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Post by: Patrick on August 03, 2015, 11:05:57 am
I'll check it out this evening Orca.
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Post by: Orca on August 03, 2015, 12:12:57 pm
Greek market plunges 23% in half day today.
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Post by: Orca on August 03, 2015, 12:18:27 pm
Thanks P. Price reverted to today's open price. :)
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Post by: chang9015 on August 03, 2015, 12:38:42 pm
is BAT and PGR ex-div today?
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Post by: chang9015 on August 03, 2015, 01:30:29 pm
@orca, just double checked, both BAT & PGR went ex div but paydate is only on the 11th?
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Post by: Orca on August 03, 2015, 03:02:48 pm
I see so.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 03, 2015, 05:00:17 pm
Orca, just go over to China and sort the Sh!t out please
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Post by: Moonraker on August 05, 2015, 04:29:00 pm
1.00 GBP   =   20.0024 ZAR
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Post by: Supersonicbaron on August 05, 2015, 04:29:14 pm
Anyone know why BRAIT got smacked upside the head, almost 7% down at one point
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on August 05, 2015, 04:45:27 pm
Priced at nearly twice its Nav seems high to me?
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Post by: chang9015 on August 06, 2015, 07:29:47 am
bid-offer spread
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Post by: chang9015 on August 06, 2015, 07:30:16 am
lol! mistakenly took this for the search box :P
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 06, 2015, 11:47:52 am
It happens :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 06, 2015, 12:15:55 pm
Putting those wooden wedding rings to use... I've eloped to paris, see you all in 2 weeks :)
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Post by: Orca on August 06, 2015, 01:02:37 pm
Parys is nice.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2015, 02:19:50 pm
u going to Freestate ? no internet there ?
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 06, 2015, 02:49:22 pm
@P: What, seriously? Have a splendid time :) and come back to Afrique de Sud.
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Post by: chang9015 on August 06, 2015, 03:23:50 pm
proposing in paris? have you asked your wife about this :P
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on August 06, 2015, 04:19:37 pm
Nice one Patrick. Hope she says yes, otherwise the flight back will be awkward. Take dark glasses so you don't have to make eye contact.

 ;)
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 06, 2015, 05:23:36 pm
 :D No, 'eloped' is a done deal.  But, just look for markers "Sortie" (meaning 'Exit'), should you need to make a quick escape. 
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Post by: jaDEB on August 06, 2015, 06:20:35 pm
If she syas no, leave her there, did u buy her a return ticket?
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 06, 2015, 07:33:08 pm
We are just fooling around P, consider this your batchelor party from our side. ;).  We wish you and your bride only the best of everything, have a lovely honeymoon, bring back champs from the Champagne region and make every moment special!
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Post by: Imran on August 07, 2015, 04:22:56 pm
Anyone else think Eqstra offers massive value?
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Post by: Shi on August 07, 2015, 04:39:39 pm
Anyone else think Eqstra offers massive value?

They have massive debt as well, so be careful.
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Post by: gcr on August 12, 2015, 09:03:58 pm
Tough day at the office today as far as my portfolio is concerned took a hit of R 87,000 - paper loss
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Post by: jaDEB on August 13, 2015, 09:52:50 am
NPN :)
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Post by: Nivek on August 14, 2015, 12:01:42 am
NPN no longer exists, tencent is just a dual listed company now
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Post by: jaDEB on August 14, 2015, 08:25:45 am
Mr Bekker did indicate that they will invest again when opertunity is there.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 14, 2015, 11:37:40 am
Frikkie but this Market is all over the place ...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 14, 2015, 03:02:03 pm
Where is every one :'(
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Post by: Nad_Inagap on August 14, 2015, 03:06:45 pm
Right here
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 14, 2015, 03:28:42 pm
Lick'n wounds... but that's just me.
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on August 14, 2015, 04:32:56 pm
I've sold my car and am investing with the proceeds.

Trying to get 888

8% DY (after tax)
8% DY growth per year
8% Capital growth p/y

Sellers do not want to sell at my offer price, the cheek  :'(

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Post by: Patrick on August 17, 2015, 08:12:11 am
If you find it let me know where!
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Post by: NakedPeanut on August 17, 2015, 10:21:54 am
Ahh.. all my etf's have all taken a nose dive recently.. At least they make the monthly investing cheaper :D
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Post by: Nivek on August 17, 2015, 11:05:06 am
Same here NPeanut. Also trying to look at it as a positive correction, just wish I had more money to invest right now.
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Post by: paulmo01 on August 17, 2015, 02:43:26 pm
100
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Post by: gcr on August 18, 2015, 09:33:55 am
Same here NPeanut. Also trying to look at it as a positive correction, just wish I had more money to invest right now.
If you have a bond and have free float take out what you can and invest in the market as in the longer term you will get a better return
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on August 18, 2015, 11:36:19 am
Well now, that's some dangerous advice! I bet some Chinese people wish they had not just done that very thing.
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Post by: gcr on August 18, 2015, 12:01:08 pm
Well now, that's some dangerous advice! I bet some Chinese people wish they had not just done that very thing.
Well I've been doing it for 20 years, but then , I am not chinese
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Post by: Patrick on August 19, 2015, 12:05:39 pm
My poor CML :(
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Post by: jaDEB on August 19, 2015, 12:56:59 pm
Will HAR go below R10 ?
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Post by: rjthomas on August 19, 2015, 01:13:03 pm
curro
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Post by: Orca on August 19, 2015, 02:45:10 pm
CML has no prospects for a recovery yet. November will send her to low 60's.
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Post by: Datura on August 19, 2015, 02:57:47 pm
LON plummeting
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Post by: jaDEB on August 19, 2015, 05:47:48 pm
ok, I will load Frikkie Recover ver 4.44 tonight
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Post by: Orca on August 19, 2015, 08:43:35 pm
For every seller there is a buyer. I wonder why any one would want to buy LON while it is in a protracted down trend.
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Post by: Bloodburner9000 on August 20, 2015, 07:10:19 am
Coronation now has 20% of IMP - http://www.sharenet.co.za/v3/sens_display.php?tdate=20150819160000&seq=41
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 20, 2015, 10:14:27 am
I've been a bit distracted of late, can't find rhythm - annoying.  >:(
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 20, 2015, 12:35:13 pm
Does anybody have info/experience with Naspers' preemptive strike launch against Netflix's SA launch next year, ie ShowMax? It's R99 pm, do you have to utilize DSTV for this?  Anybody experience with MTN' FrontRow or Times Media's Vidi?
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Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2015, 02:26:17 pm
AFAIK, there's no need to have DSTV. Just pay your R99 and have a 4MB internet connection and you're good to go. No idea on the others: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/135730-showmax-broadband-requirements-pricing-and-supported-devices.html
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Post by: jaDEB on August 20, 2015, 03:16:07 pm
But subscribe per item in house, ie. PC, stove, vacuum cleaner and so, I am a NPN share holder PLEASE !!
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 20, 2015, 05:14:42 pm
Tx :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2015, 09:37:37 am
Frikkie been on steroids lately?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 21, 2015, 09:53:27 am
Yes I know, he had a redbull last night, will lock toilet door and give him some Laxatives
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Post by: jaDEB on August 21, 2015, 09:54:23 am
run frikkie run ....
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Post by: letlhogonolo on August 21, 2015, 11:15:40 am
Hello Patrick, my Net1 shares seem to have disappeared into the ether today
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Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2015, 12:15:11 pm
Oh dear, let me check if I can see anything. They're probably there but hidden for some reason...
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Post by: Bevan on August 21, 2015, 12:22:32 pm
really funny things happening with the investor challenge today... holdings all shown as negative, fees missing etc.
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Post by: Bevan on August 21, 2015, 12:22:33 pm
really funny things happening with the investor challenge today... holdings all shown as negative, fees missing etc.
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Post by: Sebulba on August 21, 2015, 12:37:11 pm
really funny things happening with the investor challenge today... holdings all shown as negative, fees missing etc.

My portfolio shows the same....
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Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2015, 12:41:36 pm
Yes, somehow my record of purchases has vanished. I have a backup, but it's 2 days old. I'll restore it, but I don't think I can get the last 2 days data back. Will keep looking.
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Post by: Bevan on August 21, 2015, 01:23:45 pm
oh dear, good luck.
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Post by: Itut on August 21, 2015, 01:43:58 pm
The use of the word "dear" making me nervous.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 21, 2015, 01:45:52 pm
lol
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Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2015, 02:57:46 pm
Ok, I've recovered everything but 69 records. Not sure if I can manage to get those back :(
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Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2015, 03:01:50 pm
Ok details of what went on here: http://shareforum.co.za/the-investor-challenge/lost-some-purchase-records/
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Post by: JohnnyH on August 22, 2015, 09:19:39 pm
It seems we will be having a big red monday on the markets...US markets closed ~3% down friday...
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Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2015, 07:36:01 am
Still fighting server gremlins this morning. You might need to clear out your cookies if you can't log in...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 09:03:53 am
:'(
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 09:16:31 am
dammit, frikkie, chill now, please !!!
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Post by: Sebulba on August 24, 2015, 09:56:18 am
Ok, so when the server problems hit i immediately sold all shares (not knowing what was up) So i'm now on R 847k of Nett profit in my holdings screen, yet when I go to the leaderboard it says R 618k.  ???
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Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2015, 10:24:27 am
Hey Sebulba, it's not your sale that cause the issue, but the purchase that is missing. That's why it looks like you've made too much profit. I'll have to figure out what your purchase price was. Do you remember by any chance? Else I'll back calculate.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 01:03:33 pm
Surely they mean R13? on moneyweb frontpage "Rand hits R14/$ as commodities tumble"
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Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2015, 02:33:42 pm
All I want to do today is buy my ETFs but my damn deposit is sitting in no mans land between banks :(
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 02:46:45 pm
I jsut wanna switch of my damn screen, and not see the carnage ..
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 02:58:09 pm
almost time to buy jaDEB... market needs a few days to bounce around on bottom now...
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 03:02:13 pm
another big contraction coming now on DJIA futures.... market could push down 5% today before recovering later....
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 03:04:53 pm
bots must be milking the vol right now.... value traders should definitely be on sidelines still...
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 03:05:27 pm
I am going to kick Frikkie's @ss ... Stocks poised for massive selloff; Oil tumbles; Tech punished
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 03:24:48 pm
US markets open in 7 minutes... will be interesting to see if bots and futures trades have got it right.... should close 50% of gap on open before reverting to falling again
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 03:26:09 pm
Dow just hit circuit breakers... oh dear....
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Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2015, 03:27:10 pm
@jaDEB and don't forget the rand breaking all the records on the wrong side!
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 03:34:38 pm
wow, we are watching history in the making.... biggest ever point fall in Dow Jones history... not % fall but points....
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 03:39:49 pm
the lifeboats are still out from 2008 and central banks have no powder left to stimulate markets.... what now?
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Post by: Broke(r) on August 24, 2015, 03:45:04 pm
and there I was last week and the week before thinking I got myself some bargains...  :wall:  :'(
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 03:45:43 pm
now we up 700 points... yeeha, this is exciting stuff
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Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2015, 03:50:31 pm
If I had money last week I would have bought. It's still not in yet, so when it arrives, I'll be buying. I was in Eurodisney last week. Those rides have nothing on this!
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 04:04:49 pm
ACL - up South Africa government to hike steel import tariff by 10 pct - industry group
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Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2015, 04:13:04 pm
NYSE Will Suspend Stock Trading If S&P 500 Index Plunges 7% http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-24/nyse-will-suspend-stock-trading-if-s-p-500-index-plunges-7-
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 04:16:09 pm
think most of fun is over now.... Dow stabilising around 16,000 - only about 2.8% down now on day....
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 04:18:40 pm
rest of week looks like being choppy as hell.... best to sit on sidelines me thinks....
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Post by: benched68 on August 24, 2015, 04:21:44 pm
buy
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 04:31:37 pm
brave call benched... Dow just dropped 150 points in 5 minutes again.... that's normally a whole days move.... you got enough margin to handle the volatility?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 04:32:39 pm
Patrick, is your wife to be not going to be upset with u looking at market instead of lookin after her?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 04:58:31 pm
Rant is recovering .. :)
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Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2015, 05:03:56 pm
Patrick, is your wife to be not going to be upset with u looking at market instead of lookin after her?
No I married her 2 weeks ago, so now I'm allowed to focus on other things again  :D
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/pgpatrick/2cv_zpsimmbytxj.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/pgpatrick/media/2cv_zpsimmbytxj.jpg.html)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 24, 2015, 05:06:43 pm
Sorry, my bad, congrats. :)
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Post by: Bevan on August 24, 2015, 05:39:11 pm
Dow futures traded a range of 1,500 points today... the plung prevention team really had their work cut out at one point....
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Post by: gcr on August 24, 2015, 06:54:24 pm
Great day for shopping today, bought parcels of/or topped up on Pick n Pay (2 lots), Clover, Santova, AdaptIT, hoping to pick up some more Adapt IT tomorrow morning in the auction

Isn't it amazing how many fund managers and investment advisors all saw this coming and could almost predict to the percentage the drop we have experienced last and this week - methinks they would be better predicting by looking into a cup with tea leaves in rather than using their cloudy crystal balls.
Oh well all the "Sell in May and go away" lemmings will all be back next month buying up shares as markets generally improve between now and Christmas and if your not in - your out ;D
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Post by: Orca on August 24, 2015, 09:24:30 pm
Or perhaps you can wait a while longer and get a premium discount of 50%.
Looking back at 2008, I have this nostalgic taste of  Dèjà Vu.
Brokers and analysts were urging investors to climb in at -10% at the "discount" and the markets continued to fall to -45%.
Had the investors complied, I'm sure the markets would not have dropped that low but the fear factor prevailed. 
I hope you are correct though.
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Post by: JohnnyH on August 25, 2015, 08:16:22 am
Shanghai currently almost 14% down with 1.5hrs trading left...here we go again?
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Post by: Bevan on August 25, 2015, 08:33:51 am
"Anybody with a pulse was nervous yesterday".... which is why humans don't trade anymore. Computers do and the bots did a sterling job of keeping liquidity going yesterday... yesterday could have been a repeat of 1987 but it was saved by the bots...
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on August 25, 2015, 08:38:55 am
Quote
No I married her 2 weeks ago, so now I'm allowed to focus on other things again

 :TU:
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Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2015, 09:15:25 am
Thanks all :) Anyway, my money reached my account this morning, so like a good robot investor, I closed my eyes and hit buy!
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Post by: jaDEB on August 25, 2015, 09:26:27 am
The government will have a follow-up meeting in about four weeks , lol, the only thing they can do quick is spend our money... 4 weeks ..
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Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2015, 10:07:56 am
I'm loving these low prices. Rebalancing my portfolio and picking up all these supposed "capital losses" and then buying the other index at a discount... Then using those capital losses to get rid of as many of the expensive unit trusts I stupidly bought years ago. Win all around!
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Post by: gcr on August 25, 2015, 11:55:16 am
I'm loving these low prices. Rebalancing my portfolio and picking up all these supposed "capital losses" and then buying the other index at a discount... Then using those capital losses to get rid of as many of the expensive unit trusts I stupidly bought years ago. Win all around!
Yup I am quite happy with my buys yesterday plus the movement up this morning about, R 80,000 better off than yesterday
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Post by: tmsf12 on August 25, 2015, 12:15:07 pm
...and then buying the other index at a discount...
What do you mean by this?
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Post by: jaDEB on August 25, 2015, 12:25:06 pm
U.S. stock index futures pointed to a sharply higher open on Tuesday, recovering from the plunge seen in global stocks on Monday.
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Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2015, 12:34:16 pm
What do you mean by this?
In my case I own 4 funds (now 3).
1) FOORD equity fund - does ok, costs a lot so I'd like to get rid of it.
2) STXIND - does very well, I'll keep this for a long long time.
3) GIVIND - does ok, but I think it's currently too heavy into MTN, and I'd prefer to put that money somewhere else.
4) DIVTRX - still new but the index has done extremely well. It also pays a pretty good dividend and is well diversified.

So I'd like to get rid of as much of 1) and 3) and put it into 4. Problem is, if you sell I need to pay a lot of capital gains tax. But now, the whole market is cheap, so for example if I sell GIVIND for a 10% loss, I can also buy DIVTRX at a 10% discount, so in effect there's no loss, just a re-balancing. But to SARS there is a loss, so I can take the amount of that loss, and sell some of my FOORD, and even though I make a profit, it's cancelled out by the GIVIND loss and I won't pay tax on it.
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Post by: tmsf12 on August 25, 2015, 12:48:11 pm
@Patrick, thanks for helping out a noob  :)
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Post by: Orca on August 25, 2015, 02:39:18 pm
I noticed DIVTRX corrects mismatched price before open hence the gaps in the candles. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on August 25, 2015, 06:19:23 pm
:)
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Post by: Orca on August 25, 2015, 08:48:06 pm
I somehow think the traders will take profits on Wednesday but with the good gains today they would have done so already. Lets wait and see.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 26, 2015, 08:26:18 am
Sad about Roger Kebble, he and Brett use to be lot on moneyweb radio :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on August 26, 2015, 09:17:11 am
Ag dammit Frikkie ... !!!
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 26, 2015, 09:54:29 am
jaDEB, I saw a pic of a guy on FB in leopard undies called 'Frikkie', I see him every time in my mind when you mention him here,  :D I still have nightmares.
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Post by: Datura on August 26, 2015, 10:31:54 am
hahaha
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Post by: jaDEB on August 26, 2015, 10:34:07 am
That is Frikkie, he sleeps under u bed, and in closest close to investors. Its him, its him, be afraid !!!
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Post by: jaDEB on August 26, 2015, 12:27:02 pm
U.S. stock index futures pointed to a higher open on Wednesday after a highly-volatile session for China's Shanghai
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Post by: Orca on August 27, 2015, 01:38:27 pm
@P. Could you possibly correct my spelling of Peregrine in the subject/topic line please. I must have pressed the "e" and "r" together by mistake.
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Post by: Patrick on August 27, 2015, 02:00:00 pm
Done
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Post by: Orca on August 27, 2015, 03:01:48 pm
Thanks P.
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Post by: Orca on August 27, 2015, 05:37:08 pm
US growth smashes forecasts FTSE 100 jumps by more than 3% aStrong US growth figures inject optimism into markets.
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Post by: jaDEB on August 28, 2015, 08:00:02 am
Morning all
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Post by: Moneypenny on August 28, 2015, 09:01:54 am
Hallo :)
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Post by: Bevan on August 28, 2015, 09:17:06 am
seen 50% retracement on most markets... classic profit taking day before weekend... be warned if day trading....
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Post by: NakedPeanut on August 28, 2015, 01:44:24 pm
Thinking of moving my ETF portfolio from ETFSA to EasyEquities.. Any opinions?
I buy monthly via debit order and did the math, it's substantially cheaper to use EE, even with buying 4 shares monthly than the %pa cost of ETFSA..

Only concern is reinvestment of dividends. ETFSA is a debit order and forget, where as EE needs bit more management.
EE also doesn't have an adequate amount of ETF shares in "stock", e.g. divtrax can only buy R1600 at time...
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Post by: NakedPeanut on August 28, 2015, 01:44:58 pm
Oh and TFSA is with EE already
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Post by: Moonraker on August 29, 2015, 03:54:27 pm
APN. Bad trading update ? http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mny_sens/aspen-pharmacare-holdings-limited-voluntary-trading-statement-2/
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Post by: jaDEB on August 31, 2015, 08:40:01 am
Sold my APN last week .. will see what share does now
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Post by: rjthomas on August 31, 2015, 01:27:08 pm
Reduced my exposure to Curro. Added some AdvTech.
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Post by: Broke(r) on August 31, 2015, 01:41:03 pm
Thinking of moving my ETF portfolio from ETFSA to EasyEquities.. Any opinions?
I buy monthly via debit order and did the math, it's substantially cheaper to use EE, even with buying 4 shares monthly than the %pa cost of ETFSA..

Only concern is reinvestment of dividends. ETFSA is a debit order and forget, where as EE needs bit more management.
EE also doesn't have an adequate amount of ETF shares in "stock", e.g. divtrax can only buy R1600 at time...

Due to the exact same reasons, I'm in the process of making a similar move from Satrix Direct (AOS Partners) to EE. Last debit order and subsequent purchase takes 40-days to 'clear' so my move should be concluded by 16 Sep. They charge R 170 per holding to transfer, but should be worth it in the long run, unless EE starts charging a p.a. fee too...

Regarding auto divi re-investment, if I remember correctly, this is something EE are looking into 'for the future', but for the time being, you'll have to manually buy more with divi returns. Not a big pain for me, actually prefer it that way flexibility wise.

The liquidity issues for some of the EE ETFs have been raised a couple of times on threads here - seems that a call to their call centre will sort that out - they might charge a fee (R50?) for this. I recently bought some on which the limit was about R3,5k per purchase - I just repeated the process a few times until I had the amount what I was looking for. I think it costs the same as any bulk purchase as there's no pricing tiers, but I might be wrong.

From another poster in another thread, it seems that getting EE to show the correct base cost for all your transferred holdings might be a bit of an issue, since there are multiple purchases on the ETFSA portfolio due to DD. I simply calculated the base cost  by taking total cost by number of shares held - that matched my Satrix total base cost and that is what I will provide EE to show as my base cost once my Satrix portfolio has transferred.
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Post by: Patrick on August 31, 2015, 02:12:36 pm
@NakedPeanut. Another +1 to go to EE. It'll save you a fortune in the long term. I don't see the non-auto reinvesting of divvies as a problem. I often want to buy something different in any case.
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Post by: gcr on August 31, 2015, 03:17:16 pm
Thinking of moving my ETF portfolio from ETFSA to EasyEquities.. Any opinions?
I buy monthly via debit order and did the math, it's substantially cheaper to use EE, even with buying 4 shares monthly than the %pa cost of ETFSA..

Only concern is reinvestment of dividends. ETFSA is a debit order and forget, where as EE needs bit more management.
EE also doesn't have an adequate amount of ETF shares in "stock", e.g. divtrax can only buy R1600 at time...

Due to the exact same reasons, I'm in the process of making a similar move from Satrix Direct (AOS Partners) to EE. Last debit order and subsequent purchase takes 40-days to 'clear' so my move should be concluded by 16 Sep. They charge R 170 per holding to transfer, but should be worth it in the long run, unless EE starts charging a p.a. fee too...

Regarding auto divi re-investment, if I remember correctly, this is something EE are looking into 'for the future', but for the time being, you'll have to manually buy more with divi returns. Not a big pain for me, actually prefer it that way flexibility wise.

The liquidity issues for some of the EE ETFs have been raised a couple of times on threads here - seems that a call to their call centre will sort that out - they might charge a fee (R50?) for this. I recently bought some on which the limit was about R3,5k per purchase - I just repeated the process a few times until I had the amount what I was looking for. I think it costs the same as any bulk purchase as there's no pricing tiers, but I might be wrong.

From another poster in another thread, it seems that getting EE to show the correct base cost for all your transferred holdings might be a bit of an issue, since there are multiple purchases on the ETFSA portfolio due to DD. I simply calculated the base cost  by taking total cost by number of shares held - that matched my Satrix total base cost and that is what I will provide EE to show as my base cost once my Satrix portfolio has transferred.
I would advise you to be very pedantic regarding base costs when switching your portfolio as it could significant implications when dealing with SARS on issues of CGT. Also I have a view that the receiving broker should record the original date on which you purchased the counters as the transfer from present to future broker is nothing more than an electronic transfer of counter volumes and there should be no price movements. When you come to sell a counter there should not be a necessity to convince SARS that you have held the counters longer than the prescribed 3 year period - the burden of proof should not be with you.
So once transferred - just check that the new records reflect the reality of when you purchased the counters and that the base figures are reflective of when you purchased them
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Post by: gcr on August 31, 2015, 03:25:05 pm
Patrick - as a matter of interest why is Taste Holdings not on our list of counter to take into our portfolios. Can you incorporate?
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Post by: Patrick on August 31, 2015, 04:05:22 pm
Yes, I'm not sure why it isn't there. Initially it was decided anything that trades over R1 and more than 16 times a day.
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Post by: Orca on August 31, 2015, 08:40:23 pm
Rules is rules and stick to it. BTW @jaDEB, I cannot find your name on the challenge. Nor can I find mine. I last saw mine at 256. Please assist.
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Post by: gcr on August 31, 2015, 08:58:31 pm
Rules is rules and stick to it. BTW @jaDEB, I cannot find your name on the challenge. Nor can I find mine. I last saw mine at 256. Please assist.
Rules are rules until they are challenged, so in essence you subscribe to the penny stocks that are included in the list of choice
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Post by: Broke(r) on August 31, 2015, 09:31:15 pm
I would advise you to be very pedantic regarding base costs when switching your portfolio as it could significant implications when dealing with SARS on issues of CGT. Also I have a view that the receiving broker should record the original date on which you purchased the counters as the transfer from present to future broker is nothing more than an electronic transfer of counter volumes and there should be no price movements. When you come to sell a counter there should not be a necessity to convince SARS that you have held the counters longer than the prescribed 3 year period - the burden of proof should not be with you.
So once transferred - just check that the new records reflect the reality of when you purchased the counters and that the base figures are reflective of when you purchased them

Thanks, some very valid points - I didn't consider the tax implication.
Anyone with experience on transferring into EE? Holdings with multiple purchases at multiple price-points - is the EE portal showing this correctly for you?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 01, 2015, 08:13:46 am
@ Orca, u need to look higher, I is 65th ... :)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 01, 2015, 08:16:47 am
oohhhh, looks like Frikkie is visiting today ...
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 01, 2015, 09:25:30 am
Ag nee sies man
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Post by: Patrick on September 01, 2015, 09:53:28 am
You're not shorting today MP? Btw, what did you think of this: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-28/while-many-panicked-japanese-day-trader-made-34-million
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Post by: jaDEB on September 01, 2015, 10:16:08 am
Shorts - Frikkie - LOL = nightmares
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 01, 2015, 11:29:25 am
@P:  No, I've been dormant since late June, need a break from trading now and then or I will lose all contact with reality  :D  I saw that article, just wow! @j:  Don't go there :)
 
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Post by: jaDEB on September 01, 2015, 11:32:44 am
Japanese trader "For him the basic rule is: “Buy stocks that are being bought, and sell stocks that are being sold.”"
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Post by: Moonraker on September 01, 2015, 01:52:00 pm
Ha..ha..ha - Must be in a bit of a quandry when there is indiscriminate selling of stocks.
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Post by: Tefofo on September 01, 2015, 02:15:43 pm
How do I get the moola?
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Post by: Patrick on September 01, 2015, 02:29:18 pm
@Tefofo, click on the "My Holdings" page and it'll be charged up.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 01, 2015, 03:02:42 pm
@Frikkie, click on the "Go away button" - PLEASE leave my NPN alone, Please
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Post by: jaDEB on September 01, 2015, 05:06:33 pm
 ithink Frikkie has his speedo on :'(
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Post by: Orca on September 01, 2015, 06:25:40 pm
Mankini.
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Post by: Orca on September 01, 2015, 09:17:03 pm
If I were a trader, I would go long on ADI for a cool 4%.
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on September 02, 2015, 05:09:38 am
If I were a trader, I would go long on ADI for a cool 4%.

I think I'll try catch today's MPC's bounce :)
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Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2015, 07:57:01 am
What happened to MPC yesterday? Everything was fine until 2pm then it just fell off a cliff?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2015, 08:05:27 am
South African clothing retailer Mr Price's 21-week sales up 9 pct
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2015, 09:27:54 am
Mr Price Group shares fell the most in more than 14 years after the South African clothing and household-goods retailer said low levels of consumer confidence and “some poor fashion calls” curbed sales.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2015, 09:28:37 am
Orca !! u there ?
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 02, 2015, 09:39:02 am
Dow -470 points last night, don't see that too often, Europe green atm.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2015, 09:45:39 am
DJ Futures is up
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2015, 10:04:43 am
which website do u use for shares / graphs. I use Bloomberg but it sucks
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2015, 10:37:32 am
Patrick, the Comp is broken, shows my value 1,037,746 but leaderbord shows 811,564. I know I am knoob but that is unfair :'(
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Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2015, 11:09:48 am
Yes, you are probably affected by the bug on the 21st. Do you remember what you bought KIO for around that date?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2015, 11:18:25 am
No, I think it was about R88, but it was trading at about R90 high . Thus u are save if u wanna use that. ..
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Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2015, 11:22:52 am
I'll go for the middle, R89. Does that look better?
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Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2015, 11:25:19 am
Nice storming up the leaderboard BTW.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 02, 2015, 12:03:51 pm
Yes, DRD I bought, up after results, Gold up & Rand 13.48
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Post by: Orca on September 02, 2015, 12:34:07 pm
Orca !! u there ?
Been stuck at home with injured wife after a bad fall. She went down like Black Monday.
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Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2015, 12:40:28 pm
Ouch sorry to hear it. How was the medical care in PT?
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Post by: Orca on September 02, 2015, 01:34:39 pm
Quite an experience P. Will write it in my blog.
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Post by: chang9015 on September 03, 2015, 06:57:15 am
@Pat, I think i have some monies missing on the leaderboard compared to actual holdings in my portfolio, mind taking a look when you have time? :) thanks in advance
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Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2015, 07:25:54 am
@chang, check it now.
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Post by: chang9015 on September 03, 2015, 11:38:10 am
@Pat, looks better. thank you kindly :)
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Post by: gcr on September 03, 2015, 12:33:32 pm
Patrick - can you look at my portfolio as well please
Thanks
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Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2015, 12:50:03 pm
Yours seems to balance GCR, unless you both bought and sold the same share on the 20th/21st August and both transactions were lost.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 03, 2015, 02:45:21 pm
ACL hit R8.80  wow, I think Frikkie is drinking tee there :'(
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Post by: gcr on September 03, 2015, 03:12:36 pm
Yours seems to balance GCR, unless you both bought and sold the same share on the 20th/21st August and both transactions were lost.
Seems like my Mr Price has dumped me down the leaderboard by about R 54,000 - so yes I think you are right
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Post by: jaDEB on September 03, 2015, 05:46:57 pm
Patrick, pls just check, I think I was paid OCE Dividends twice in the competition?
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Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2015, 07:27:52 am
Yes, I'll have to reverse the cash you received. Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 04, 2015, 08:24:54 am
@Patrick, U got very nasty since u been married...
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 04, 2015, 08:44:24 am
Hehe, no he's still on honeymoon, just wait - soon he'll be just as nasty as us :)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 04, 2015, 09:17:42 am
My holdings is missing a 70k profit I made a while ago :)
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Post by: MrMafia on September 04, 2015, 09:18:08 am
O.o Patrick, show me the money!  :P
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Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2015, 10:21:30 am
:) I'm guessing you sold ANG on the 20th or 21st right? Any idea on the price then?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 07, 2015, 04:45:18 pm
U.S. markets closed for Labor Day
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Post by: Patrick on September 08, 2015, 12:31:37 pm
Is Frikkie on leave today?
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Post by: Orca on September 08, 2015, 01:00:31 pm
Yes. But he's back tomorrow.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 08, 2015, 04:25:33 pm
He is shopping for a new leopard speedo shorts
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Post by: jaDEB on September 08, 2015, 04:49:52 pm
I am happy he is taking a break, I need it :)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 08, 2015, 05:18:41 pm
qriffin, u still there ?
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Post by: jaDEB on September 09, 2015, 10:31:51 am
Patrick, my screen is not working, who is 3rd ?
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Post by: Patrick on September 09, 2015, 10:52:25 am
Nicely done!
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 09, 2015, 02:48:16 pm
Big mouth :)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 09, 2015, 03:32:38 pm
Sorry, should fall back to 334 soon :'(
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Post by: Orca on September 09, 2015, 07:42:07 pm
You are in 2 minds now. Take profit or hope the reversal continues. Difficult gamble but as I say to HIV sufferers. "Stay positive".
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Post by: Patrick on September 10, 2015, 08:17:56 am
@jaDEB, if you take profit, you'll have to pay taxes :)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 10, 2015, 08:23:56 am
Are u saying SARS are reading your website? ps. My name is not jaDEB, my name is Roy, from poffadder. Will change my profile.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 10, 2015, 08:39:05 am
Ag dammit, Frikkie is back
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 10, 2015, 08:46:30 am
Nooooo
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Post by: Bevan on September 11, 2015, 09:20:45 am
I reckon Frikkie is pissed off and hungover this morning and we will see him throwing his toys later.....
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Post by: jaDEB on September 11, 2015, 09:48:02 am
I just hope he is not Chuck Norris in disguise :'(
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Post by: Bevan on September 11, 2015, 11:32:41 am
I think Frikkie (or Chuck) will let the market rally a little before we go completely 100% risk off into the weekend. Expect Wall Street to sell off later after close of JSE.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 14, 2015, 05:48:15 pm
ffs, Frikkie is playing with my GNL.
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Post by: Bevan on September 15, 2015, 01:16:37 pm
no, the market is playing with your GNL. Market doesn't believe in Ivan's outsized bet on coal and nor do I
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Post by: Moonraker on September 15, 2015, 05:47:49 pm
Can't post. Plugin missing frame.
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Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2015, 07:34:29 pm
can you mail me a screenshot moon. [email protected]
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Post by: Orca on September 15, 2015, 07:41:12 pm
Hey jaDEB. I was looking what Porno_Ster was up to in the mid 200 area for some time and decided to visit you in the top 10 but cannot find you.
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Post by: Bedlamp on September 16, 2015, 05:54:11 am
pfg
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Post by: jaDEB on September 16, 2015, 07:32:53 am
I know Orca, I know. my GLN is going down :'(
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Post by: Moonraker on September 16, 2015, 09:28:36 am
can you mail me a screenshot moon. [email protected]

Test. seems to be when posting linked content.
Stocks deliver in the long term (http://www.bdlive.co.za/opinion/columnists/2015/09/15/stocks-deliver-in-the-long-term)
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Post by: Patrick on September 16, 2015, 12:57:44 pm
That's really weird. What device/browser are you using? Have you seen that on any other pages? I don't have any content that needs plugins, but maybe google is trying to show flash ads or something.
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Post by: Moonraker on September 16, 2015, 01:07:45 pm
Mega brewing deal nears as AB InBev approaches SABMiller (http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/retail/2015/09/16/mega-brewing-deal-nears-as-ab-inbev-approaches-sabmiller)

It seems to be uBlock₀ (Will check).

Mega brewing deal nears as AB InBev approaches SABMiller (http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/retail/2015/09/16/mega-brewing-deal-nears-as-ab-inbev-approaches-sabmiller)

No, funny it's OK now. Thanks. Thought it was @@||www.google.com/cse/cse.js?cx=015213305976783395510:fdoiloqbbuk$script,domain=shareforum.co.za which I allowed as you can see, but no difference.
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Post by: gcr on September 17, 2015, 10:20:05 am
I don't think there is going to be a rate change in USA today - though hawkish statements will still be made
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Post by: Moonraker on September 17, 2015, 10:29:20 am
To agree to disagree is fun. I think there may well be an increase, let's say ⅛ %
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Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2015, 08:06:48 pm
So was there a bet between you two or just bragging rights?
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Post by: Orca on September 17, 2015, 08:29:08 pm
Unchanged so expect a good run up tomorrow.
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Post by: Moonraker on September 18, 2015, 09:43:47 am
gcr wins by ⅛% :)
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Post by: Orca on September 18, 2015, 09:50:09 am
Zero hike priced in already.
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Post by: chang9015 on September 18, 2015, 04:27:32 pm
what happened to that good run that was supposed to happen today?
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Post by: Orca on September 18, 2015, 06:14:05 pm
The zero rate hike was priced in from 2 days ago so markets should have been relatively flat. It went south because she did not mention a strengthening economy. This spooked the markets. 
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Post by: chang9015 on September 19, 2015, 01:47:24 am
Ah... Thanks kindly for the clarification. Greatly appreciated.
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Post by: Patrick on September 21, 2015, 12:56:34 pm
Made a few changes to this chat box. Is it displaying better on your ipads/tablets/phones etc?
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Post by: Orca on September 21, 2015, 02:45:09 pm
Appearance still the same on my laptop but I still can't "shout" as it flickers every few seconds and my post would disappear. Have to do so via "Off Topic".
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Post by: Patrick on September 21, 2015, 11:56:08 pm
Has it been like this for a while or just since today Orca? I've only changed the layout, so it shouldn't have affected the refresh.
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Post by: rjthomas on September 22, 2015, 11:12:37 am
What software do you recommend for tracking share prices from JSE? I also want to get history, PE ratios, etc. Free is good but I'm open to paying for a subscription
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Post by: Orca on September 22, 2015, 11:50:11 am
Been like this forever. It refreshes every 120 seconds and will delete what you have typed. I have to wait for it to flicker then I have 2 minutes to type.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 22, 2015, 11:59:47 am
https://itradedata.co.za/index/I_Fullname.htm as per Moonraker (Mr Bond)
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Post by: jaDEB on September 22, 2015, 01:25:26 pm
Ohhh, Frikkie is back......
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Post by: rjthomas on September 22, 2015, 01:53:13 pm
Thanks very much jaDEB, I heard of iTrade before but didn't know it was free
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Post by: Patrick on September 22, 2015, 02:06:28 pm
Been like this forever. It refreshes every 120 seconds and will delete what you have typed. I have to wait for it to flicker then I have 2 minutes to type.

Ah, you're right, that refresh does happen every 2 minutes. It's set to not refresh if you're typing, but it's client side, so it might not work for everyone. I'll up it to 5 minutes to give you more time.
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Post by: Patrick on September 22, 2015, 03:17:09 pm
Ok, changed it to 5 minutes Orca. The other option I have is to remove the auto-refresh, and just put a refresh button. Any comments anyone?
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Post by: gcr on September 22, 2015, 03:35:49 pm
Sometimes 5 minutes may not be long enough especially if you are typing quite a long response/view. I still only type with two fingers so my speed is somewhat limited O:-)
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Post by: Orca on September 22, 2015, 04:43:45 pm
Thanks P. 5 mins is fine as shouting is meant to be short anyway.
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Post by: Orca on September 23, 2015, 08:57:11 pm
The UK blue-chip index rose 1.9% alongside rising eurozone markets, which were buoyed by a recovery in  car maker stocks. MTA ???
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Post by: Fawkes85 on September 24, 2015, 08:04:52 am
I never thought I would say this but...I really dislike public holidays now
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Post by: chang9015 on September 24, 2015, 12:39:13 pm
hahah because its boring!!
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Post by: Orca on September 24, 2015, 02:44:09 pm
Off to the Cotswold and Wales for 2 weeks tomorrow.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 25, 2015, 08:53:57 am
I owe I owe, off to work I go :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on September 25, 2015, 02:15:44 pm
See Frikkie is at Glencore today
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Post by: Mbuyi on September 26, 2015, 07:23:30 pm
cash
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Post by: jaDEB on September 28, 2015, 09:06:22 am
'allo 'allo
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 28, 2015, 10:02:16 am
I forgot my password today ☺️ Anyway just checking in, watching whales in Hermanus.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 28, 2015, 10:05:13 am
Is wales playing again today ?
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 28, 2015, 10:08:21 am
Haha, these whales are also playing, it is mating season after all.
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Post by: Patrick on September 28, 2015, 12:39:43 pm
Are you in Hermanus MP?
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 28, 2015, 01:46:47 pm
I was, now Cpt.
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Post by: jaDEB on September 28, 2015, 03:10:43 pm
GLN down 31% .....
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Post by: jaDEB on September 28, 2015, 03:43:05 pm
Bought GLN in the IC @ R18.53....
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Post by: Fawkes85 on September 28, 2015, 05:39:03 pm
God damn DIVTRX!!!
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Post by: jaDEB on September 28, 2015, 05:58:43 pm
I miss Moneypenny's new high / new low thread :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on September 28, 2015, 06:02:02 pm
Cause that will be 1 busy 1 :'(
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Post by: Patrick on September 28, 2015, 06:53:10 pm
Sigh, I bought on Friday...
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Post by: Trebron on September 29, 2015, 09:55:03 am
Hi Moneypenny, can you have a look at my holdings please. My AQP purchase does not add up with the average cost that it is showing. Thanks in advance.
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 29, 2015, 11:02:14 am
Hallo Trebron, that would be Patrick, our resident IT guru, he'll fix it, he's smart that way. 😀
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Post by: Moneypenny on September 29, 2015, 11:09:20 am
@jD: I'm planning to give more time to shares soon, I'll pick up the slack and start contributing more  ;) Don't even want to look at IC, can only guess.
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Post by: Patrick on September 29, 2015, 11:16:07 am
Hey Trebron, which account is yours? I can't find a Trebron on the leaderboard.
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Post by: Patrick on September 30, 2015, 08:13:30 am
Ok found you Trebron, check again, all should be sorted now.
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Post by: Trebron on September 30, 2015, 09:01:09 am
Hi Patrick, Thanks a mill
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Post by: jaDEB on October 01, 2015, 12:23:10 pm
I wonder where is Frikkie ?
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Post by: Bevan on October 01, 2015, 12:42:00 pm
Frikki's on holiday. It's the 4th quarter, market is calm and looking for any excuse to rally.
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Post by: Patrick on October 01, 2015, 02:06:58 pm
Tell him to come back around the 25th please ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 01, 2015, 05:15:01 pm
Nobody dares to tell Frikkie what to do ..
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Post by: jaDEB on October 05, 2015, 08:31:09 am
Glencore Surges 72 Percent in Hong Kong Amid Unit Sale Talks
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Post by: Patrick on October 05, 2015, 09:35:37 am
Is that a misprint? 72% or 7.2%? Edit, I see it's not a misprint  ???
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Post by: jaDEB on October 05, 2015, 09:44:24 am
Also look at leader board ... :)
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Post by: Patrick on October 05, 2015, 01:22:38 pm
jaDEB at #3  8) where were you on Friday?

Finally have more than R30k in my TFSA. Took long enough! Anyone know when we're allowed to add another R30k? Is it January 1st or only March 1st?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 05, 2015, 01:44:14 pm
Friday was outside of 10th
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Post by: JohnnyH on October 05, 2015, 02:35:51 pm
@ Patrick, March if I am not mistaken
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Post by: FWSteyn on October 05, 2015, 02:37:21 pm
Why are the share prices updated so slowly?  It feels like it updates only once every 10-15min?
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Post by: Patrick on October 05, 2015, 02:48:27 pm
That's about right, the prices are updated every 10-15 minutes. Then to stop people from taking advantage of live prices, all transactions are held back for another 15 minutes, and updated with the live at purchase time price. So if you're a intra-day trader it'll suck, but for anyone else it's probably pretty fair.
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Post by: FWSteyn on October 05, 2015, 02:51:32 pm
Ah ok, that makes sense.  I forgot that I was registered here, and what the rules/regulations were, since I registered about 4 years ago.  I thought I could make a quick buck.  This delay system is costing me 1.2% total worth!
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Post by: Patrick on October 05, 2015, 04:01:31 pm
:) on the bright side, the fact that you're above 0% puts you well into the lead!
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Post by: Lamak on October 05, 2015, 05:08:11 pm
Hi Patrick. I added the RMBT40 div but it's not updating on my account. Can you help please. Cheers
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Post by: Patrick on October 05, 2015, 06:17:07 pm
Give it a week Lamak, dividends are only paid on weekends.
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Post by: Lamak on October 05, 2015, 06:32:57 pm
Thank you
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Post by: Moonraker on October 06, 2015, 12:30:10 pm
SABMiller Plc rejected an informal takeover offer from Anheuser-Busch InBev NV of about 66.4 billion pounds ($100 billion) that it considered too low, according to people familiar with the matter. SABMiller today released a surprise trading update nine days earlier than planned, in which it announced that beer volume had returned to growth in the second quarter, helped by Africa and Latin America --- a trend that could figure into a sweetened offer from AB InBev.
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Post by: Datura on October 06, 2015, 01:10:21 pm
Interesting
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Post by: agentrfr on October 06, 2015, 04:11:38 pm
SAB
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Post by: agentrfr on October 06, 2015, 04:12:00 pm
whoopsy that isnt a search bar lol
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Post by: Patrick on October 06, 2015, 10:03:08 pm
You're not the first to try that agentrfr :)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 07, 2015, 12:43:55 pm
I thought the AQP buyers is goings to kick my ass in the IC?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 07, 2015, 01:02:40 pm
Patrick - Restrictions: 10 per post, maximum total size 512KB, maximum individual size 512KB
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Post by: Patrick on October 07, 2015, 02:36:36 pm
Where do you see that jaDEB? Trying to post more than 10 attachments?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 07, 2015, 02:39:50 pm
I can posy more, but it limits the total size to 512kb, not 512kb per attachment. But total to 512kb.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 07, 2015, 02:40:13 pm
posy ? what the frik is posy? post !!
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Post by: Patrick on October 07, 2015, 02:43:36 pm
Try posy more now, the new limit is 4096
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Post by: jaDEB on October 07, 2015, 02:55:42 pm
lol :)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 07, 2015, 05:00:54 pm
Rant @ R13.36 :)
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Post by: Patrick on October 08, 2015, 03:02:59 pm
Easy equities just gave me another R50. What nice guys. I was meant to buy shares with it, but I've already maxed out my TFSA, so I transferred it to my bank account :)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 08, 2015, 03:12:18 pm
R50?, that is not even 2 boxes of smokes
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Post by: jaDEB on October 08, 2015, 05:40:29 pm
Patrick, my OCE is showing incorrect. qty is not right, I bought on 1st Oct. My overall value is correct.
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Post by: Patrick on October 08, 2015, 09:34:58 pm
how many should you have?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 09, 2015, 07:59:46 am
2015-10-01 10:11:54    OCE    OCEANA GROUP LTD    1309    9718    R127 717,45
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Post by: jaDEB on October 09, 2015, 08:00:21 am
nvm see u fixed it :)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 09, 2015, 08:28:58 am
nvm still not lekker, see my posy on sandbox Patrick
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Post by: Patrick on October 09, 2015, 09:11:49 am
Will check it out
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Post by: Patrick on October 09, 2015, 09:27:24 am
Looking into it jaDEB
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Post by: Patrick on October 09, 2015, 09:28:31 am
did you perhaps sell 7142 shares around the 20th/21st August?
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Post by: Patrick on October 09, 2015, 09:34:53 am
I see you bought KIO on the 21st, so I'm guessing you raised the money by selling OCE. That was the day the trades vanished, so I added KIO back for you, now need to add the sale of OCE.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 09, 2015, 09:56:35 am
No, all is fine, it is just that when u click on holdings, it is right, but if u click on your name it shows wrong
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Post by: jaDEB on October 09, 2015, 09:58:02 am
See screen shots in sand box
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 09, 2015, 12:18:43 pm
I'm afraid discussion in attached link is true.  My iPhone6S Plus 64Gb has same issues, make sure yours is working before leaving the shop, none of the remedies mentioned by Apple forum sorted it so far. :(     https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6559300?tstart=0     Any bright ideas how to fix this?
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Post by: Patrick on October 09, 2015, 12:36:25 pm
No idea, but now I know why there has been that one annoying guy in the gym speaking on loudspeaker all the time!
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 09, 2015, 12:40:11 pm
Jip, you can do a lot with it except making a call old school.
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Post by: Moonraker on October 09, 2015, 05:33:19 pm
President Jacob Zuma has appealed to all companies – particularly those who do business with the state – to donate money to the ANC, warning that those who did not do so would be in “danger”.   http://mg.co.za/article/2015-10-09-your-business-is-in-danger-if-you-dont-donate-to-the-anc-zuma
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 09, 2015, 05:43:26 pm
Yeah. I read that. Gotta give it to the man. He just goes out and say it. Doesn't speak in riddles like other politicians. Just shows how arrogant the ANC has become
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Post by: rspijkerman on October 10, 2015, 09:28:49 am
sappi
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Post by: Datura on October 12, 2015, 09:10:24 am
High/Low Price(c) (24 Months)    5 165/ 2 750
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 12, 2015, 04:08:25 pm
Why no JustOneLap newsletter today? I look forward to my Monday JSEDirects!
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Post by: czc on October 12, 2015, 05:14:07 pm
Fawkes got the newsletter at 07:00, check your spam folder?
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 12, 2015, 05:27:52 pm
It's not there :(
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Post by: Bevan on October 13, 2015, 09:10:20 am
SABMiller agrees takeover at GBP 44 per share
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Post by: Patrick on October 13, 2015, 09:38:00 am
@Bevan, big news, now I imagine the courts decide if it's anti-competitive?
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Post by: Bevan on October 13, 2015, 12:55:08 pm
first I imagine the investment bankers and lawyers all get their pound of flesh as they cobble the actual mechanics of the deal together..... then submit for CompCom approval around the world.... going to be interesting, wonder what happens to SAB's BEE and employee shareholder scheme?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 14, 2015, 05:24:15 pm
I wonder where is Frikkie ?
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 14, 2015, 05:33:29 pm
Somebody want to explain Frikkie to me?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 14, 2015, 05:45:32 pm
Frikkie is my imaginary friend, dressed only in a leopard skin shorts. When he comes out to play, in my sandbox,  my shares gets a hiding. Of course he does not only effect my shares.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 14, 2015, 05:46:23 pm
I know moneypenny gets nightmares about him... :)
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Post by: jaDEB on October 15, 2015, 08:05:07 am
any1 bought Sygnia?
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 15, 2015, 09:10:51 am
@jaDEB:  Nope, I like Frikkie 'cause I like to short the market, but his shorts on the other hand - scary.
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on October 15, 2015, 11:26:11 am
bought a tiny amount jaDEB
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Post by: chang9015 on October 15, 2015, 06:47:18 pm
Only able to get a tiny amount...
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Post by: jaDEB on October 19, 2015, 08:18:06 am
China’s economy expanded quicker than economists forecast in the third quarter as the services sector propped up the world’s second-largest economy, suggesting monetary and fiscal stimulus is keeping Premier Li Keqiang’s 2015 expansion target within reach
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 19, 2015, 12:43:14 pm
If there are shares we want to buy in the Investor Challenge and it is not available on the list can it be added?
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Post by: Orca on October 19, 2015, 01:17:51 pm
Only liquid shares that trade more than 16 per day.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 19, 2015, 02:34:05 pm
16 as in volume or 16 trades a day?
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Post by: Patrick on October 19, 2015, 02:48:24 pm
16 trades a day. It was an arbitrary number that would allow the price to update every half hour on average. Any less than this and people could make trades that were impossible in reality.
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Post by: Lamak on October 19, 2015, 09:47:37 pm
Hi Patrick.

I would like to know if there is a possibility of changing this compitition to a five year one. So, make the current one run for 5 years. And have the any al one as well???just a thort, but I will love it. Let me know
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Post by: Patrick on October 19, 2015, 11:15:08 pm
I've had a couple of thoughts like that. It does add some complications for new people joining, so my thinking is that I should allow you to go back to your end year holdings, and see where you'd be with those in todays prices. Kind of a halfway mark to what you're after I guess?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 20, 2015, 04:20:07 pm
See Frikkie is back at ACL again.
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Post by: Lamak on October 20, 2015, 05:20:40 pm
That sounds brilliant Patrick. It is a good start. I've learned so much on this site and would absolutely love it more... 8)
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Post by: Patrick on October 21, 2015, 08:13:01 am
I'll work on it, the current figures and historical figures are in different databases, so it'll be a challenge!
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 21, 2015, 08:49:02 am
Can anyone access FNB's website?
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 21, 2015, 08:49:52 am
And we are back to the future today:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tf8mPsvcOs
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Post by: jaDEB on October 21, 2015, 10:06:46 am
@ Fwakes... Yes I can open FNB
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Post by: Orca on October 21, 2015, 02:15:09 pm
@Mp. I would love to see how we lived in 2015.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 21, 2015, 02:34:16 pm
Again the EFF is disrupting parly doing their best to keep the minister from delivering his speech
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Post by: jaDEB on October 21, 2015, 02:43:45 pm
MP are u buying RACE shares today?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 21, 2015, 02:45:46 pm
Ferrari races toward its Wall Street debut (Code RACE) fikkin nice !!!
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Post by: jaDEB on October 21, 2015, 06:09:14 pm
RACE    +7.73% 56.02  
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Post by: Moonraker on October 22, 2015, 08:21:36 am
Luxury goods stock - like Richemont - should be a corker.
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 22, 2015, 09:12:39 am
@ jaDEB:  No, the only thing I know about Ferrari is Enzo’s history.

@ O:  I find it interesting that people always expect the future to be way more progressive than what it turns out to be.  There are always flying cars in futuristic movies, don’t know why. The self lacing shoes are on their way :) but they somehow missed 3-D printing and internet/wifi.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 22, 2015, 05:33:13 pm
BBrrmmmmmm  RACE    +9.23% 56.80
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Post by: Patrick on October 23, 2015, 10:17:41 am
So long term I see the amount of cars being sold decreasing. We've probably passed "peak car" by now, but who knows, maybe ferrari would be immune as it's never been about transport.
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Post by: JohnnyH on October 23, 2015, 01:56:42 pm
A nice green day, all over the world is seems! DJ Futures indicating another 0.93% up today :)
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 23, 2015, 02:29:21 pm
It has been a good week. Went from being R6 000 down on one of my positions to being R10 000 up this week :)
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Post by: gcr on October 23, 2015, 04:27:27 pm
Many people consider October a bad month for share price movements, in my experience this is not normally true.
October has in fact been a rewarding month for my portfolio as it has moved up by about R 200,000 to date, hope the balance of the month doesn't knock a big hole in the growth/paper profit :TU:
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on October 23, 2015, 05:50:49 pm
My TFSA is finally back in the green - many months in the red, my main account is still 10% off  it's highs, a fair amount of that was the demise of CML - haven't sold any though.
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Post by: Orca on October 25, 2015, 11:41:19 pm
CML's books closed end September and that is before the upturn. I expect a plunge due. Then again, I may not always be wrong and never been right with CML but I suspect she will dive.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 26, 2015, 07:16:28 am
Been wondering about that. Why has CML taken such a dive?
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Post by: Orca on October 26, 2015, 10:26:02 am
CML...Trading statement lower by 5 to 15%. Not as bad as I was expecting.
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Post by: Orca on October 26, 2015, 12:54:54 pm
@Fawkes85. CML's income is mostly from Performance Fees and the markets have not done well.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 26, 2015, 01:35:08 pm
Ah. Was thinking of investing while prices are down but if that is where they make most of their money I don't see this as something good to go long on. I think SA investors are becoming much more savvy and understanding the rip off of management fees and especially performance fees.
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Post by: tmsf12 on October 26, 2015, 02:05:14 pm
What just happened to BBET40?

Date              PDT   Price   Volume
26/10 13:32   AT   5451   2,361
26/10 13:21   AT   6740   2
26/10 12:45   AT   8430   60
26/10 12:39   AT   8450   9
26/10 12:37   AT   5450   300
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Post by: Patrick on October 26, 2015, 02:15:33 pm
Looks like there's a problem with the market maker so there's an absolutely huge spread!
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Post by: chang9015 on October 26, 2015, 02:32:31 pm
MTN trading halt...
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 02:54:02 pm
what is happening wiff MTN ?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 02:54:49 pm
Yes Captian slow - South Africa's MTN shares fall 5 pct on report of Nigeria fine
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Post by: chang9015 on October 26, 2015, 02:55:19 pm
they got fined by Nigeria for R70b for not disconnecting unregistered sims, down 10% before it was halted
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Post by: chang9015 on October 26, 2015, 02:55:56 pm
R173 per share..... so tempting hahah
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Post by: chang9015 on October 26, 2015, 02:56:42 pm
actually amazed indi25 is still in the green after this MTN stunt lol
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 02:59:25 pm
That is what the Inves Challenge is for, practice, sold everything and bought MTN....
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Post by: chang9015 on October 26, 2015, 03:01:16 pm
but its halted....? or does it still run on the challenge hahaha
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 03:05:20 pm
sHhhH, DAMMIT !!! NOW u ratted me out.... there will be a knock on your door in a moment, open it, I dare you...
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 03:11:16 pm
are u sure it is halted? shows trading @ 14h55?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 03:15:14 pm
and @ 14h58...
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Post by: chang9015 on October 26, 2015, 03:23:25 pm
I see so as well.... guessing some sources arent always reliant
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Post by: chang9015 on October 26, 2015, 03:26:11 pm
i apologize... still trading.. happy days..
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 03:30:16 pm
No just joking..Patrick can have a look and if u are correct he can cancell my trade.
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Post by: chang9015 on October 26, 2015, 03:31:50 pm
nah.. i just checked with online broker.. trades are still going live and active.. my mistake... lets hope this doesnt turn into an opportunity trap for you :P
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 03:32:05 pm
or make it when it was traded after suspension..
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 03:37:18 pm
NPN :)
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 26, 2015, 05:29:29 pm
MTN gets hit with HUGE fine: http://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/companies-and-deals/mtn-confirms-nigerian-unit-fined-5-2bn/
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Post by: Fawkes85 on October 26, 2015, 05:30:00 pm
Bit ridiculous if you ask me
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 05:44:36 pm
agree
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Post by: jaDEB on October 26, 2015, 05:47:34 pm
MTN Traded R2,708,780,670 NPN Traded R 1,891,774,229
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Post by: Patrick on October 26, 2015, 06:42:20 pm
I think the fine will be retracted at some point, but that doesn't mean I think money won't change hands...
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Post by: chang9015 on October 27, 2015, 07:39:12 am
TIA
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Post by: jaDEB on October 27, 2015, 02:08:55 pm
Sorry I have to ask... TIA ?
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Post by: Moneypenny on October 27, 2015, 02:31:59 pm
Hehe, let's help you... Tia who?
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Post by: Patrick on October 27, 2015, 02:55:23 pm
This is Africa?
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Post by: chang9015 on October 27, 2015, 03:45:44 pm
yep, from blood diamond haha
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Post by: MfanakhitiInvestment on October 28, 2015, 01:19:52 pm
any site you know to help you trade better ?
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Post by: jaDEB on October 28, 2015, 03:05:29 pm
Use https://itradedata.co.za/Data/
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Post by: JohnnyH on October 29, 2015, 12:24:50 pm
Resources & Gold falling off a cliff again today...
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Post by: jaDEB on October 29, 2015, 02:14:05 pm
Hello Frikkie...see u are back..
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Post by: Orca on October 29, 2015, 04:10:58 pm
Not too bad today jaDEB. We are substantially overbought in the short term and it has to pull back soon.
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Post by: jaDEB on October 29, 2015, 04:44:01 pm
Yes, agreed, but it is still not lekker :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on October 29, 2015, 04:50:55 pm
oohhhhh...MTN is postive .....
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Post by: Orca on October 29, 2015, 05:25:52 pm
ADI...my star stock goes stratospheric!
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Post by: Lamak on October 31, 2015, 10:46:02 am
Did the stxindi pay a dividend in the last week or so?
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Post by: gcr on October 31, 2015, 02:51:11 pm
Yes - they paid out on 21/10/2015
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Post by: Lamak on October 31, 2015, 09:21:50 pm
Thanx.  I will add it
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Post by: kolbec on November 02, 2015, 11:19:29 am
com
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 02, 2015, 11:23:08 am
MTN share trading suspended
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Post by: jaDEB on November 02, 2015, 11:31:48 am
Scary stuff
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Post by: chang9015 on November 02, 2015, 11:36:45 am
Hahaha for real this time.. Guess the talks aren't going well..
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Post by: chang9015 on November 02, 2015, 01:06:45 pm
any short MTN?
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Post by: Datura on November 02, 2015, 02:52:50 pm
/keeps MTN shares purely out of curiosity :)
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Post by: jaDEB on November 03, 2015, 07:42:51 am
Activision Blizzard to buy 'Candy Crush' maker King for $5.9 billion
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Post by: MegaPix on November 03, 2015, 10:55:28 am
mondi
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Post by: Moonraker on November 03, 2015, 01:15:50 pm
Fawkes85 - check post under 'Income from REITS
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Post by: buffie on November 03, 2015, 06:40:16 pm
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Post by: jaDEB on November 04, 2015, 11:35:56 am
GLN up 8% :)
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Post by: Moonraker on November 04, 2015, 11:54:22 am
@ Fawkes85 http://www.moneyweb.co.za/investing/property/redefine-international-retail-developments-stack-up-in-germany/
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 04, 2015, 01:49:29 pm
Thanx. Saw it
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 04, 2015, 01:50:36 pm
Why TEX been taking such a beating for the last month though?
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Post by: Orca on November 04, 2015, 02:01:45 pm
TEX has historically been flat and volatile so nothing new.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 04, 2015, 02:32:06 pm
Well that is good to hear actually. Would mean I can continue buying at a good DY
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Post by: gcr on November 05, 2015, 09:31:13 am
See Top 40 reached an all time high of 49192.90 yesterday (my recording)
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 05, 2015, 09:44:52 am
I am up to third position in my group for the Investor Challenge :) At least for now
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Post by: jaDEB on November 05, 2015, 10:26:55 am
I think Frikkie parked his caravan just outside Lonmin
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Post by: Strive on November 05, 2015, 02:26:50 pm
retirment annuity
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Post by: Strive on November 05, 2015, 02:27:13 pm
Haha, please ignore that, mistook this for the search bar
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Post by: Patrick on November 05, 2015, 02:42:08 pm
Welcome strive, you're part of a very inclusinve club of people to have done that :P
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Post by: joeman on November 05, 2015, 03:09:29 pm
Hi guys. Do any of these traders/analysts who make recommendations on which share to buy, sell or hold ever go back and historically check whether their recommendations were accurate? Even ignoring dividend income and basing it on capital growth only? I'm new to this so perhaps this has been asked and/or answered somewhere else. I see EasyStockPicker has some backtesting methodology they use but it looks complicated
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Post by: chang9015 on November 06, 2015, 02:03:55 pm
Indicies getting hammered with both BIL and CFR down c.7%
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Post by: jaDEB on November 06, 2015, 02:04:19 pm
I was a b#ll hair close in buying LON.....
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Post by: Moonraker on November 06, 2015, 04:18:51 pm
Dec. Fed increase now practically a cert after payrolls. $ rocketing. Watch those bond yields.
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Post by: Orca on November 07, 2015, 04:31:21 pm
You never buy LON. You only short it. Same with KIO.
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Post by: Orca on November 08, 2015, 11:36:58 am
The Sunday Telegraph: Lonmin, the world’s third-largest platinum miner, is expected to unveil record losses as it discloses support for a £266 million rescue rights issue.
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Post by: Moonraker on November 08, 2015, 05:20:43 pm
Macro economics rule. Wonder what resources will do tomorrow after the 16%+ decline in Chinese imports for October. Will the possibility of more Chinese stimulus help commodities, or will the decline in imports (4th month in a row) cause a further sell off. Your pick.
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Post by: Moonraker on November 09, 2015, 09:45:42 am
Runt even weakening against Aussie $ - fellow commodity producer.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 09, 2015, 10:25:28 am
I have AVL - Aussie/Rant is good for them.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 10, 2015, 11:44:40 am
Frikkie at LON
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Post by: Nivek on November 10, 2015, 02:17:07 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_-TA6aWYAAgu_S.jpg)
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Post by: Moonraker on November 11, 2015, 03:20:47 pm
@Orca. New socialist cum commie government in Portugal. Oh boy.
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Post by: Orca on November 11, 2015, 04:05:23 pm
Portuguese Government Falls As Socialists, Communists Topple PM. Euro currency will be on par with the USD soon. Communists have agreed not to exit Euro.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 11, 2015, 05:27:06 pm
And just when you thought you got away from the commies here in SA
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Post by: Orca on November 11, 2015, 06:11:46 pm
The commies are actually the smallest party in the leftist coalition so no problem. All people are jubilant here.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 12, 2015, 09:27:15 am
OCE results looks good..took day off for RR
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Post by: Crabby on November 13, 2015, 08:50:27 am
How often do SatrixINDI pay dividends ?
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Post by: gcr on November 13, 2015, 09:55:25 am
In my portfolio MPC is showing a zero value - why?
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Post by: Patrick on November 13, 2015, 10:04:51 am
STXIND pays 4 times a year, @GCR I'll take a look.
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Post by: Patrick on November 13, 2015, 10:41:20 am
Here's the reason GCR, Mr Price is making work for me: http://www.mrpricegroup.com/Investor-Relations/Sens-news/Change-to-the-Mr-Price-Group-ticker-code-and-ISIN.aspx
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Post by: Moonraker on November 13, 2015, 10:49:23 am
@Fawkes85

Redefine International: A stout hedge
http://www.financialmail.co.za/moneyinvesting/2015/11/12/redefine-international-a-stout-hedge

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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 13, 2015, 12:44:25 pm
Thanks. I read it. Just wish I had more cash on hand to buy now before they go up too much
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Post by: Crabby on November 13, 2015, 03:31:38 pm
Thanks Patrick - was wondering, bought in Mar and received first div in Nov seems a little strange
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Post by: Moonraker on November 13, 2015, 03:58:28 pm
@ Fawkes85 - don't expect fireworks - steady as she goes. NEPI is more 'exciting' but don't know why the jump today on huge vol.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 13, 2015, 05:33:29 pm
Well I am not expecting fireworks. Remember I am going for divs not growth. So I am hoping there won't be fireworks as I still have a few months of buying ahead of me. The fireworks can come once I finished buying.
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Post by: gcr on November 14, 2015, 02:36:16 pm
Patrick - not sure how you are handling the Taste rights issue as there was a 1:4 allocation. Some holder of these shares could conceivably overdraw their accounts as the rights price was R 3 per share >:D
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Post by: Patrick on November 15, 2015, 11:39:46 am
we normally enforce all rights issues, I'll have to find the sens and activate it.
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Post by: Patrick on November 16, 2015, 10:10:43 am
Ok for all the Astoria requests, it has been added, it'll take about 15 minutes to become active.
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Post by: Shopkeeper on November 18, 2015, 10:06:11 am
Hallo Patric, Astoria ARA is not showing up yet, Mabe it is still on the beach in Maritius Primary listing. Stronghand
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on November 18, 2015, 10:11:37 am
has it listed yet?
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Post by: Patrick on November 18, 2015, 10:12:46 am
As soon as the price appears here it'll be on the site: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/watchlist/recent-ticker/ARA:SJ
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Post by: jaDEB on November 18, 2015, 03:21:06 pm
I wanna look at Rant/Euro vs Rant/USD comparison on a graph, any ideas what website? does not have to 1 graph, 2 will be fine
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Post by: Patrick on November 18, 2015, 03:27:26 pm
@jaDEB http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=ZAR&view=10Y and http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=ZAR&view=10Y Be warned, they're quite sary looking!
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Post by: jaDEB on November 18, 2015, 03:36:19 pm
Thank you Sir ..
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Post by: jaDEB on November 18, 2015, 06:03:07 pm
The Eur/Dollar is 1.06. If it goes to 1.00, will the ZAR/$ & ZAR/EUR be the same?
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Post by: Orca on November 18, 2015, 07:10:24 pm
The euro has clearly suffered because of Friday night’s events plus the continued talk of the European Central Bank extending their monetary policy to further boost the Eurozone economy is also undermining it. The net result of the euro weakness is that sterling is close to levels last seen 8 years ago against the euro and the US dollar is getting ever closer to parity.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 19, 2015, 11:38:35 am
There is something very wrong with Google Finance. Says certain shares are up x amount of cents even though according to their own graphs it is down from where it ended yesterday. Been doing this for a couple of days now.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 19, 2015, 11:43:13 am
I use yahoo finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/)
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Post by: yozzi on November 19, 2015, 02:03:12 pm
money invested overseas
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Post by: Moonraker on November 19, 2015, 04:08:28 pm
MTN hit with R9.3m fine in Uganda.http://www.fin24.com/Tech/News/mtn-hit-with-r93m-fine-in-uganda-20151119
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Post by: jaDEB on November 19, 2015, 04:19:57 pm
Mr Bond, some good news please, I need some... :"(
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Post by: Moonraker on November 19, 2015, 04:22:21 pm
Why ? You're sitting pretty with NPN. ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on November 19, 2015, 04:27:28 pm
Yes, it is good to me, but some positive news will be welcomed :). Will look for some, oh wait Star Wars Battlefront is out tomorrow :)
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Post by: jaDEB on November 19, 2015, 04:32:49 pm
ffs ... South Africa's cbank raises interest rates to curb inflation risk
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Post by: jaDEB on November 20, 2015, 07:17:10 am
Mr Bond, NPN Trading statement :)
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Post by: Patrick on November 20, 2015, 08:57:51 am
So if you stand on the very big pile of money they're giving you, can you see the ocean?
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Post by: jaDEB on November 20, 2015, 09:55:30 am
LON @ 35c. Frikkie !!!
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Post by: letlhogonolo on November 20, 2015, 11:18:25 am
I wonder if Lonmin is going to go belly up if the platinum price doesn't improve in the next two years.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 23, 2015, 07:43:00 am
I is thinking of buying small %, LON. thinking..... insert hour glass turning here
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 23, 2015, 07:50:30 am
Thinking the same thing here. Do the same thing with LON as I am doing with FDP. It is so cheap that I don't have to risk a lot of money to get a lot of shares
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Post by: jaDEB on November 23, 2015, 08:52:31 am
My broker / firewall is on leave...lol, he stopped me from buying ABL :)
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Post by: Patrick on November 23, 2015, 09:15:42 am
Haha, need to add LON to your 1time collection jaDEB?
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Post by: jaDEB on November 23, 2015, 09:36:53 am
Yes, lol, glad to see u read my stuff....
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Post by: Samurai on November 23, 2015, 03:47:27 pm
kumba
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Post by: Shi on November 24, 2015, 11:30:03 am
Thinking the same thing here. Do the same thing with LON as I am doing with FDP. It is so cheap that I don't have to risk a lot of money to get a lot of shares

Well, if FDP keeps on issuing shares, it won't be cheap anymore.  :(
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 24, 2015, 11:34:58 am
Won't be if you keep on buying but I am pretty much done buying FDP. Now it is just a wait and hold game.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 24, 2015, 11:35:21 am
*Will
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 24, 2015, 02:07:11 pm
What's going on with Mittal - up >30%?
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Post by: jaDEB on November 24, 2015, 02:16:20 pm
The unit of the world's largest steel maker will sell nearly 700 million new shares at 6.50 rand each, a 56 premium to ArcelorMittal South Africa's closing price on Monday
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 24, 2015, 02:18:43 pm
Tz
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Post by: noseworthy on November 25, 2015, 10:33:15 am
rhodes
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Post by: Moonraker on November 25, 2015, 10:55:13 am
ARA - Astoria .. who's buying and if not why not ?
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 25, 2015, 11:19:00 am
I am very happy!! Got my share of Astoria
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Post by: Moonraker on November 25, 2015, 12:27:49 pm
@marguerittereed. You bought at prelisting ? what was the price, I can't remember.,
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Post by: Moonraker on November 25, 2015, 12:54:45 pm
Ah, it was @ 14.23
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 25, 2015, 01:13:14 pm
Not buying cause of high fees. Even higher than the DBX trackers
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 25, 2015, 01:18:32 pm
14.25 at prelisting
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 25, 2015, 01:20:17 pm
sorry should be 14.23
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Post by: Fawkes85 on November 25, 2015, 02:35:08 pm
Does anyone else here use Google Finance? Also getting the tracking anomalies?
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Post by: jaDEB on November 25, 2015, 04:55:59 pm
LON up 36%
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Post by: jaDEB on November 25, 2015, 05:53:11 pm
LON up 63%
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Post by: Moonraker on November 26, 2015, 08:26:30 am
Short squeeze - will drop again back to mid twenties.
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 26, 2015, 10:03:57 am
LON .72c. Quickest money I have ever made
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2015, 10:07:29 am
:) - bastard LOL
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2015, 10:10:08 am
Frikkie, LON all over the place....
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Post by: chang9015 on November 26, 2015, 10:40:32 am
so.. people are expecting it to go back to the twenties and thirties.... short some more? hahah
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2015, 10:59:08 am
on the 23rd jaDEB wrote "I is thinking of buying small %, LON. thinking..... insert hour glass turning here" did u , did u, NOOOOOOOOooooooo
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 26, 2015, 11:01:40 am
LON now R1.10
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2015, 12:05:33 pm
dAMN, THERE lon BuRns MORE PEOPLE, ONly up4%...
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 26, 2015, 12:11:59 pm
and going down down down!!
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2015, 12:12:03 pm
Once again Mr Bond is correct ...
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 26, 2015, 01:16:11 pm
LON turned again going up up up
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 26, 2015, 01:19:39 pm
MTN broke even this morning!!!
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Post by: marguerittereed on November 26, 2015, 01:19:56 pm
Been a long wait
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Post by: Patrick on November 26, 2015, 01:53:22 pm
The traders must be having a field day with lonmin.
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2015, 02:05:45 pm
PATRICK, Why can I NOT BUY more LONMIM in COMP....angry face here !!!!
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2015, 02:31:44 pm
Fine bought MTN....
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Post by: Patrick on November 26, 2015, 02:48:03 pm
Haha, you know the rules, it's now a penny share!
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Post by: jaDEB on November 26, 2015, 02:49:43 pm
YEs I know :'(
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Post by: Patrick on November 27, 2015, 08:36:11 am
Easy Equities are offering brokerage free trading today!
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Post by: Moneypenny on November 27, 2015, 10:26:54 am
cause it's BF?
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Post by: Patrick on November 27, 2015, 10:39:45 am
Yes, apparently. Pity I'm not moving my money out of my unit trust today, I could have saved a few grand...
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Post by: chang9015 on November 28, 2015, 10:02:56 am
Satrix and EE joining to creating a new platform? sounds interesting.....starts December 2nd i think.
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Post by: gcr on November 28, 2015, 01:21:34 pm
Yes, apparently. Pity I'm not moving my money out of my unit trust today, I could have saved a few grand...

Patrick - if your U/T has a year end of December annually maybe you should not move your funds out until the last 2 days of December. Watch the price and when it just about peeks then sell - you will find that most fund managers do extensive window dressing just prior to the U/T's year end. The returns on my U/T are dismal so I too will be selling off my units and investing directly into the market, where I can get a better return. I am prepared to take the knock in terms of CGT, dividends and interest   
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Post by: jaDEB on November 29, 2015, 10:13:28 am
The presidents of Africa’s two biggest economies plan to meet this week to discuss MTN’s $5.2bn fine in Nigeria, reported the Sunday Times
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Post by: Patrick on November 30, 2015, 08:25:38 am
@gcr, thanks for the advice. I'll see if I can do that! Only trouble is, I planned to send it offshore, and need to do that in this calendar year. Not sure if it will clear in time...
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Post by: jaDEB on November 30, 2015, 02:42:37 pm
CML close to R60 ?
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Post by: JohnnyH on November 30, 2015, 03:48:34 pm
@jaDEB CML is trading ex div today, I am assuming this has had an effect
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 01, 2015, 07:51:50 am
Standard Bank hit with R500 million in fines by UK and US authorities for failing to prevent bribery in Tanzania:

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/companies-and-deals/standard-bank-hit-r500m-fines-bribery-charges/
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Post by: gcr on December 02, 2015, 09:05:59 am
Interesting article this morning on Moneyweb "In 10 years, 40% of the Top 40 has changed" Very interesting to see who dropped out of the Top 40 and who came in - resources seem to have taken a beating second to none
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Post by: jaDEB on December 02, 2015, 09:09:19 am
If commodities does not recover in 2016, I will ask the mothership to fetch me and take me home.
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Post by: Bevan on December 02, 2015, 09:22:42 am
just avoid iron ore, oil and gold Jadeb. Copper and coal (depsite COP21) should have a good 2016
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Post by: Moneypenny on December 02, 2015, 09:30:36 am
@gcr:  link please
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Post by: gcr on December 02, 2015, 09:41:30 am
www.moneyweb.co.za/investing/in-ten-years-40-of-the-top-40-has-changed/#
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Post by: Nivek on December 02, 2015, 10:12:39 am
Interesting reading Graham.
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Post by: Moonraker on December 03, 2015, 10:52:13 am
Pistorius Found Guilty of Murder by South African Appeals Court
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Post by: Nivek on December 03, 2015, 12:11:33 pm
Justice after all...
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Post by: Fanus on December 03, 2015, 12:13:58 pm
Why so much JSE selling?
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Post by: Orca on December 03, 2015, 01:03:31 pm
Yellan's speach last night.
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Post by: Moonraker on December 03, 2015, 01:11:59 pm
Note: There is no SHF - changed to SNH - amend comp.
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Post by: Patrick on December 03, 2015, 02:11:03 pm
Thanks Moonraker, it's done.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 03, 2015, 05:42:09 pm
MTN fine slashed by $1.8 billion
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Post by: joeman on December 03, 2015, 08:34:37 pm
Might have been asked before and perhaps I may be missing something (in which case my bad - still a newbie!), but is there a reason why dividends don't appear to be included in the ETF's in the leaderboard? Doesn't really make for a like-for-like comparison with direct share trades if they don't include them? Or is this too much admin Patrick?
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Post by: jaDEB on December 04, 2015, 06:57:58 am
Eur/Zar 15.73 wtf !!
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Post by: Patrick on December 04, 2015, 07:28:21 am
Hi joeman, I have auto feeds for most companies, but sadly not for the ETFs. They can be entered manually and will be backdated and paid. Anyone who would like to help can do that here, all you need is the amount and LDT date: http://shareforum.co.za/shares/ldt/
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 04, 2015, 08:46:36 am
MTN fine now upped again by $500 million
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Post by: jaDEB on December 04, 2015, 09:06:41 am
MTN lol, it is becoming a joke
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Post by: jaDEB on December 04, 2015, 09:24:24 am
here LON starts again....
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Post by: jaDEB on December 04, 2015, 09:38:45 am
NPN back up to 2000 :)
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Post by: Moonraker on December 04, 2015, 09:42:24 am
REGULATORY

Amsterdam 4 December 2015 – In connection with tax investigations, the
Westerstede offices of Steinhoff Europe Group Services GmbH (SEGS), a German
subsidiary of SIHL, have been searched on November 26, 2015.

The authorities are reviewing the balance sheet treatment of certain
transactions
involving transfers of participations and intangible assets among SEGS,
additional
subsidiaries and third parties pursuant to §331 HGB. The investigation focuses
on
adherence to an arms’ length valuation and proper accounting pursuant to German
GAAP.
SEGS is fully committed to support the authorities, and has begun to take
immediate
steps, in clarifying and resolving these matters.

Steinhoff International Holdings N.V and its management are of the view that on
a
global consolidated basis the above matters have been properly reflected in its
Group accounts according to IFRS.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 04, 2015, 02:09:57 pm
Hey...hey, get u @ss back up there above R2000...NOW !!!
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 04, 2015, 04:35:39 pm
Did anyone else receive their RPL dividends yet?
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Post by: Moonraker on December 04, 2015, 04:45:02 pm
Should reflect on your banking a/c tomorrow - were paid today.
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Post by: Moonraker on December 04, 2015, 07:42:16 pm
19:30 - S&P holds South Africa's credit rating; downgrades outlook to negative
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Post by: Moonraker on December 05, 2015, 07:18:30 am
Fitch cut South Africa’s sovereign credit rating by one notch to BBB- It assigned a stable outlook to the rating.
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Post by: Patrick on December 07, 2015, 02:07:12 pm
Seems like a rebound today from fridays ratings disaster.
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Post by: marguerittereed on December 07, 2015, 03:14:08 pm
Nice to see shares in the green again instead of the red!!!!!
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Post by: Fanus on December 07, 2015, 04:02:41 pm
What do guys predict will happen if that FED interest rate finally arrives?
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Post by: Samurai on December 07, 2015, 04:49:48 pm
Naspers looking good again :)
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Post by: jaDEB on December 08, 2015, 01:54:45 pm
Where is everybody, holiday or buying LON shares?
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Post by: gcr on December 08, 2015, 01:59:05 pm
Trying to convince Juju to buy up Lonmin stock so that he can own part of the mining infrastructure that he so desperately wants, but, he is saying he wants it for free  :LHST:
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 08, 2015, 02:19:41 pm
Yeah. Gotten pretty quiet in here. Guess just us schmucks who still have to work who are left in here
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Post by: jaDEB on December 08, 2015, 04:45:32 pm
OCE is trying so hard to climb... :'(
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Post by: Moonraker on December 08, 2015, 04:46:01 pm
Mondi - why down 6½ % and over 7% on LSE. ?
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Post by: jaDEB on December 09, 2015, 07:48:55 am
@ Mr Bond, cannot see why
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Post by: Moonraker on December 09, 2015, 08:22:03 am
Apparently there was a double downgrade from overweight to underweight, purely on valuation concerns. Still a great share and a Runt hedge.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 09, 2015, 01:40:37 pm
Zzzzzzzzz
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Post by: Orca on December 09, 2015, 02:04:53 pm
I have nothing to say but its getting cold here now. Siberian snow geese migrated a month early signalling an early cold winter. The longest in 50 years.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 09, 2015, 02:26:17 pm
Here we have frikkin heat wave 37 deg..
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Post by: Fanus on December 09, 2015, 02:51:30 pm
What happens when El nino comes every year? Can it then be classified as global warming?
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Post by: jaDEB on December 09, 2015, 03:12:33 pm
No idea...
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Post by: Orca on December 09, 2015, 03:56:58 pm
Yes. That is what you call a deer that is blind.
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Post by: gcr on December 09, 2015, 09:52:31 pm
So a Red one (van Rooyen) replaces a a No No one (Nene)
At least van Rooyen has a bunch or certificates and no qualifications so should do a sterling job - after all he is as qualified as that idiot at SABC
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Post by: jaDEB on December 10, 2015, 07:01:13 am
FFS...
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 10, 2015, 07:06:02 am
So I am going to go ahead and predict that today is not going to be a good one for the JSE
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Post by: Patrick on December 10, 2015, 07:37:04 am
I'll second that Fawkes, our president is a dick.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 10, 2015, 09:04:23 am
Well it is with his dick that he makes all of his decisions.
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Post by: Fanus on December 10, 2015, 09:15:57 am
At least our current account was hit with more imports....before this smart move by Zuma
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Post by: gcr on December 10, 2015, 09:47:35 am
We really need to embrace zuma's decision after all it is Christmas soon and that in itself conjures up some interesting images in my mind
zuma is like the fairy on the top of the tree - al shiny and bright standing atop a dying tree, filled with all sorts of baubles (his cabinet) and fairy lights which flash relentless for the fairy atop the tree.
Thank goodness the tree is taken down at some stage after the Christmas celebration - now its a case of the "Anc must fall" after all they have failed dismally
zuma and his merry hatchet men are real live wrecking balls - and in the other corner you have juju with his conker - hoping that he can grow a pair like the despicable president of SA
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 10, 2015, 10:23:48 am
Quite the choice we have. Zuma or Juju. It's like having to choose between cancer and AIDS
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Post by: tmsf12 on December 10, 2015, 03:44:09 pm
Wow, nice sell off, just in time to fill your xmas stockings :)
Very interesting, SABMiller and Capital&Counties making new highs.
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Post by: Orca on December 10, 2015, 03:54:36 pm
Tech sector hit big time today. My poor ADI. Thanks Zuma.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 10, 2015, 04:49:39 pm
Ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by: Patrick on December 10, 2015, 04:53:34 pm
DIVTRX took a pounding too... The indi is up though somehow...
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Post by: Orca on December 10, 2015, 06:08:54 pm
The IND ALSI was up 0,71% today.
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 08:21:24 am
I believe SABMiller is saving the Indi
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Post by: jaDEB on December 11, 2015, 08:38:12 am
Is Naspers in the Indi?
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 10:25:30 am
That's a spectacular drop in PtxTen and DivTrx.  Institutional investors pulling out due to credit ratings? Dividend yields expected to fall severly? General exit of market before a crash?  Who has the crystal ball?
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Post by: Patrick on December 11, 2015, 10:30:46 am
@jaDEB, the indi is 22% SAB, 20% Naspers.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 11, 2015, 10:35:14 am
Thanks P.
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 11:12:34 am
You guys are not big on speculation? As investors this place should team with discussions of loading up now or getting caught holding a poisoned chalice.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 11, 2015, 11:21:21 am
Tell that to my 1Time and African bank shares...
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Post by: jaDEB on December 11, 2015, 11:31:07 am
CML @ R49.....wth !!!
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Post by: czc on December 11, 2015, 11:32:43 am
@Fanus waiting for stuff to drop more.
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 11:34:35 am
I think it's the -Nene effect.  And van Rooyen says he want's to "open up" the treasury so that it's more accessible??? Another R1 down on all the indexes please :)
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 11:36:41 am
@czc Yes indeed and you can rest assured...it's still dropping like hot cakes
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Post by: gcr on December 11, 2015, 11:37:04 am
Patrick - I was wrong about the window dressing by the U/T fund managers - not much that can stand in the way of a bazuma bazooka.
 I will have to re assess when I sell my U/T's but it looks like 1st or 2nd quarter next year
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 11:49:36 am
I think this is the best lesson on why you need diversify your portfolio across the globe.  Time to visit the Gold broker.
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Post by: gcr on December 11, 2015, 11:55:23 am
I think this is the best lesson on why you need diversify your portfolio across the globe.  Time to visit the Gold broker.
Well even with a diversified portfolio (22 counters) I have taken a massive hit - only 2 bright lights (for me) at the moment and that is DBXWD and Santova. Compared to last month my portfolio is down almost half a bar
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 12:02:47 pm
If you look at my portfolio on here then I'm glad it's not my actual money.  Who knows how long it will take to recover from such a Zuma correction
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 12:07:50 pm
What is scary is that it's across almost every type of share.  Mass exodus. If I had a crystal ball about who the sellers are then it would provide great insight about who Zuma pissed off so much (excluding us)
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Post by: chang9015 on December 11, 2015, 12:13:45 pm
just sold off half my portfolio that are SA inc.. hope i'm wrong about this for SA's sake
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Post by: gcr on December 11, 2015, 12:16:57 pm
What is scary is that it's across almost every type of share.  Mass exodus. If I had a crystal ball about who the sellers are then it would provide great insight about who Zuma pissed off so much (excluding us)
Whats even more scary I bought up a parcel of about 3000 ARI at round about R 55 all in and have been selling off at the R 41 mark as I don't believe the share is going to go anywhere soon. What must be very debilitating for Patrice Mosepe is that he has seen his wealth fall dramatically - share price has had a high of R 132.54 and now stands at R 39.90 - but I suppose easy come easy go
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 12:23:51 pm
@chang9015 Don't sell. The waterfront still exists. The banks still run. Sanral is still not collecting tolls. I would venture 90% of SA citizends don't even know what happened (stock wise). They will still rent, buy, spend and eat the same they did yesterday and the day before.  Just a year or two and the divvies will start roling in again
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Post by: czc on December 11, 2015, 12:30:40 pm
I learnt my lesson buying on the way down with Aspen, will wait it out this time.
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Post by: chang9015 on December 11, 2015, 12:37:57 pm
@Fanus I suppose your right, but macro economics work differently, unless your holdings made you +25% this year, you're actually going backwards in dollar terms, our bond yields increased by 25% since Nene got removed. you're right in saying people will still rent, buy and spend, but it'll cost everyone that much more, expect SARB to increase interest rates by 50-100bps come january if this debacle isn't controlled.
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Post by: chang9015 on December 11, 2015, 12:38:53 pm
and, if we do go to junk status.... SA inc are not the holdings you want to be in....
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 12:48:12 pm
Yeah, I know our costs are spiralling upwards... but cheer up. Gold is accepted in most countries :) Just don't head for Europe. They seem a bit full these days
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Post by: Fanus on December 11, 2015, 12:55:27 pm
SAB is really busting a move right now
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Post by: chang9015 on December 11, 2015, 12:57:03 pm
people who were shorting gold must've had a good laugh hahah
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Post by: marguerittereed on December 11, 2015, 01:23:54 pm
The fall in stocks.. reminds me of the last week of the Sanlamitrade competition..
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Post by: Patrick on December 11, 2015, 04:28:17 pm
I wonder if any of JZ's family or friends have made an absolute fortune shorting shares in the last week... The Gupta's are smart enough to, and were most likely consulted before hand...
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Post by: gcr on December 14, 2015, 12:11:15 am
So Pravin is back as Finance minister - lets see whether he heads off the dudu
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Post by: Orca on December 14, 2015, 12:15:45 am
I knew something had to happen this week end and it did. Zuma had no other option.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 14, 2015, 07:16:14 am
Zuma blinked. That is a good sign. He has finally realised he is not untouchable.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 14, 2015, 07:28:29 am
I have no idea what the JSE going to do at open...
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 14, 2015, 07:35:43 am
Well the Rand went up by 6% after the announcement so that is a good sign.
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Post by: Patrick on December 14, 2015, 07:41:30 am
Did anyone have the balls to go long on banking stocks last week?
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Post by: jaDEB on December 14, 2015, 08:43:02 am
Nope...hope my AVL/NPN/OCE recover today
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Post by: chang9015 on December 14, 2015, 09:08:54 am
banking stocks this morning.. hahah dont think anyone had the balls to long them last week
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Post by: chang9015 on December 14, 2015, 09:15:55 am
so glad i doubled my position in DSY despite selling everything pure SA inc last week.. interesting to see how things play out this week with rates take off
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Post by: Fanus on December 14, 2015, 12:05:42 pm
I would still like to know who were selling on Thursday and Friday because today it's all buy buy buy again
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Post by: jaDEB on December 14, 2015, 02:38:45 pm
At least my AVL is recovering...for now...til he speaks again :'(
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Post by: czc on December 14, 2015, 05:49:15 pm
I wanted to buy but what will the Fed decision do on Wednesday?
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Post by: jaDEB on December 15, 2015, 07:30:21 am
eco predict 0.25 or 0.12 rise. anything else will be a suprise.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 15, 2015, 08:03:46 am
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mny_sens/anheuser-busch-inbev-sanv-anheuser-busch-inbev-intention-to-list-on-the-johannesburg-stock-exchange/
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 16, 2015, 08:05:48 am
So I assume it is going to be another rough day on the JSE now that Moody's has cut SA's outlook to negative as well?
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Post by: Nivek on December 16, 2015, 08:43:04 am
This December is turning out to be a nightmare one financially. Merry Christmas showerhead.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 16, 2015, 08:43:22 am
Ah. Forgot it is a public holiday back home.
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Post by: czc on December 16, 2015, 09:31:07 am
Yeah, tough day gets postponed to tomorrow.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 16, 2015, 09:50:38 am
Fawkes where are u currently?
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Post by: Moonraker on December 16, 2015, 12:14:29 pm
READ . . . http://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/where-to-now
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 16, 2015, 01:02:46 pm
Am in the Far East. Sorry for not giving more detail but I try to not give away too much personal details online.
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Post by: Moonraker on December 16, 2015, 02:18:45 pm
Must read . . . http://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/why-capitalism-is-the-enemy-of-racism-and-class
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Post by: jaDEB on December 17, 2015, 06:54:45 am
Far East? Brakpan?..lol No Problem
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Post by: jaDEB on December 17, 2015, 07:00:29 am
@ Fawkes Look after my Tencents...
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Post by: Patrick on December 17, 2015, 07:32:15 am
So fed rates up .25%, was this priced in, or will we be hammered for the downgrade and the fed rates today?
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Post by: jaDEB on December 17, 2015, 07:39:52 am
No I think it was priced in.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 17, 2015, 07:57:11 am
Brakpan? I think Brakpan is more Middle East than Far East
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Post by: jaDEB on December 17, 2015, 08:13:47 am
No we like Brakpan as far away as possible, it is far east..
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 17, 2015, 10:07:45 am
I think the rest of SA feels the same...heheh.JK
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Post by: czc on December 17, 2015, 11:57:42 am
Everything seems to be up today.
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Post by: jaDEB on December 17, 2015, 12:26:39 pm
:)
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 17, 2015, 02:11:48 pm
Today is the best day I have had on the market...so far
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on December 17, 2015, 04:04:23 pm
TEX still has a long way to go though...
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 17, 2015, 05:29:30 pm
Yip. And wish I had the cash to buy a boatload of it right now!
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 18, 2015, 07:41:00 am
So a second agency downgrades SA's outlook to negative and the market responds with glee?
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Post by: Patrick on December 18, 2015, 07:47:23 am
And the fed raises rates, expecting emerging markets to tank, but instead they go up. This is why I don't try and time the markets!
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Post by: jaDEB on December 18, 2015, 07:55:22 am
how was NPN's climb :)
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Post by: jaDEB on December 18, 2015, 08:13:33 am
Where is MoneyPenny ? :'(
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Post by: letlhogonolo on December 18, 2015, 10:17:11 am
I'm back to gambling on Lonmin
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Post by: jaDEB on December 18, 2015, 10:31:15 am
Nice, good luck, Patrick it is 100 to 1 LON
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Post by: Patrick on December 18, 2015, 02:13:20 pm
LON adjusted. It'll look weird to those who still hold, but the overall chart should work out.
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Post by: Moonraker on December 18, 2015, 02:24:25 pm
Nene firing aftershock – Barclays UK wants to sell R73bn SA subsidiary Absa http://www.biznews.com/sa-investing/2015/12/16/nene-firing-aftershock-barclays-uk-wants-to-sell-r73bn-sa-subsidiary-absa/  
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 18, 2015, 02:42:58 pm
Can anyone explain what happened to LON? As if you are explaining it to a 2 year old
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Post by: jaDEB on December 18, 2015, 05:27:23 pm
u had 2000 shares at 20c, R400. o now have 200 shares at R2, R400. For every 100 shares u had, u have 1 now.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 18, 2015, 06:43:54 pm
Ah. Thought as much. Thanx
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Post by: Hstig on December 21, 2015, 08:46:23 am
small correction jaDEB, you will have 20 shares @ R20 each, my boss bought at 76c and now has to realise a price of R76 per share to break even
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Post by: jaDEB on December 22, 2015, 08:02:51 am
Tx Hstig
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Post by: Fanus on December 23, 2015, 03:06:03 pm
I totally aced this investment challenge
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 23, 2015, 03:46:15 pm
I was better at it than I was with my real portfolio. 5.63% in 4 months. Not too bad
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Post by: Orca on December 23, 2015, 05:35:13 pm
My MTA is up 14% in 2 days. At last.
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Post by: gcr on December 24, 2015, 09:10:27 am
But then this morning it drops 10.1% - what's going on with this share
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Post by: Patrick on December 24, 2015, 09:32:10 am
Last day for the challenge today...
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on December 24, 2015, 09:55:59 am
i thought this year I would win the harder of the two leader boards. I'll go for the other one next year. :)
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 24, 2015, 10:13:40 am
Can anyone answer me this: With REITs dividends are taxed as income and not as dividends. But what if you received scrip? Does scrip get taxed?
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Post by: Moonraker on December 24, 2015, 01:05:55 pm
No. Only CGT on disposal. Scrip shares have zero base cost, which will bring down your weighted ave. cost per share.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on December 24, 2015, 02:52:50 pm
That it sure does. By quite a bit. Brought my average weighted price on RPL down by almost 30c
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Post by: gcr on December 28, 2015, 09:22:15 am
Patrick - are you running this competition next year again?
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Post by: Lamak on December 28, 2015, 10:45:03 am
Hi Patrick. How can I get a copy of that sheet with all the divis that paid and the date please?
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Post by: Patrick on December 28, 2015, 09:05:28 pm
Yes, we're running again next year, Lamak, the page was wiped clean for 2015, but I still have the days, I'll see if I can have it on a page for you.
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Post by: santoshlv426 on December 30, 2015, 08:51:18 am
Patrick, I read about a spreadsheet of yours. Can I please have a copy. ta
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Post by: Patrick on December 30, 2015, 03:24:58 pm
I'm busy putting together a quick page to show the data, I should have it online this evening.
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Post by: santoshlv426 on December 31, 2015, 10:25:36 am
Where woud I find it
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Post by: Patrick on January 01, 2016, 11:47:34 am
Here you guys go, all dividends for all years: http://www.shareforum.co.za/competition/com_dividends_all.php?year=2015
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Post by: Lamak on January 01, 2016, 01:24:20 pm
Thanx so much Patric. I will start the analysis some time and i will share my finding. Here is to 2016
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Post by: czc on January 02, 2016, 10:13:33 am
Happy New Year to everyone. What kind of analysis are you doing Lamak?
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Post by: Lamak on January 02, 2016, 08:12:41 pm
There is the usual stuff like best %. Also overlay the data with some other facts from some of the investment houses and what ppl say. My aim is to create monthly long term portfolio. So I would like to get dividents every month so I can retire...but the stocks must also appreciate. But, before I get an earful from the boss I better be on holiday now lol. Will post back. Cheers. All the best of 2016
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Post by: jaDEB on January 03, 2016, 07:23:28 pm
Where the hell is MoneyPenny !!
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Post by: Patrick on January 04, 2016, 07:30:03 am
Hello everyone, back to work for me, and today is the first trading day of the year, so the competition starts today!
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 04, 2016, 08:30:39 am
China shares trade halted after 7% plunge. Quite the start to 2016
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Post by: santoshlv426 on January 04, 2016, 08:51:05 am
I'm browsing through the investor challenge results etc. Is this real money and shares that you guys own ??
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Post by: gcr on January 04, 2016, 09:12:02 am
10 minutes into the JSE trading day and I am getting no price changes on Thursday last weeks closing prices - are any of you forumites getting prices? 
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Post by: jaDEB on January 04, 2016, 09:15:43 am
My sharenet app also not working...grrrr
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Post by: czc on January 04, 2016, 09:20:30 am
Looks like a red opening on all the shares I have in my watchlist.
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Post by: letlhogonolo on January 04, 2016, 12:36:28 pm
After my shockingly poor performance last year, I'll play it safe this year.
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Post by: letlhogonolo on January 04, 2016, 12:36:29 pm
After my shockingly poor performance last year, I'll play it safe this year.
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Post by: Moonraker on January 04, 2016, 12:47:16 pm
I can see that. Double post is definitely playing it safe.  :)
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Post by: krycor on January 05, 2016, 11:45:35 am
Hoping this year I do better.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 06, 2016, 09:02:03 am
So what's new? :)  I'm still enjoying last few days doing nothing.
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Post by: czc on January 06, 2016, 10:05:01 am
Going to be a tough year. For first time, South African assets abroad outstrip inflows http://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/economy/for-first-time-south-african-assets-abroad-outstrip-inflows/
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Post by: mar_vinus on January 06, 2016, 06:48:40 pm
1st time ever on the top, I'm sure it wont last :-(
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Post by: Orca on January 06, 2016, 09:08:18 pm
ADI hit by the falling Nkandla currency.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 07, 2016, 07:18:20 am
China suspends trading again as shares fall 7%...again
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Post by: Moonraker on January 07, 2016, 08:13:36 am
Going to be a Bad-ass day and year.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 07, 2016, 08:36:31 am
Yes it is.... :'(
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Post by: Hstig on January 07, 2016, 08:45:31 am
watch the goldminers today
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 07, 2016, 08:53:07 am
Wouldn't be sad if I were you. Bad ass year means bargain basement prices for buying ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 07, 2016, 12:24:46 pm
Time for some ABBA !!!! :'(
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Post by: Fanus on January 07, 2016, 12:44:27 pm
But why the gold miners? It's not like mining suddenly became attractive in SA. The same acid heap of problems is still present
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Post by: jaDEB on January 07, 2016, 12:55:08 pm
They sell in Dollars / Rands
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Post by: jaDEB on January 07, 2016, 05:32:03 pm
I pressed the help button, but it does not work....ppffftttt
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Post by: Orca on January 07, 2016, 11:14:08 pm
China suspends circuit breaker. D-day Friday or another 2008?
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 08, 2016, 05:42:11 am
Are they mad?

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/companies-and-deals/mtn-acquires-rival-nigerian-operator/
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Post by: jaDEB on January 08, 2016, 07:14:31 am
Chinese stocks gained in volatile trading after the government suspended a controversial circuit breaker system and the central bank moved to stabilize the yuan with its reference rate
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Post by: letlhogonolo on January 08, 2016, 11:21:16 am
So the chinese government suspends trading when their market drops but they don't do the same when it's going up. It seems like market manipulation is the norm.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 08, 2016, 12:47:59 pm
Falling of a cliff you need some help for a soft landing, Falling up a cliff ? need I say more .. :)
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 08, 2016, 12:56:35 pm
That's communism for you. Complete and utter cluelesness when it comes to economics. They think they can control the stock market the same way they control every other facet of Chinese society
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Post by: jaDEB on January 08, 2016, 01:25:04 pm
It was not invented by China "On the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), one type of trading curb is referred to as a "circuit breaker." These limits were put in place after Black Monday in order to reduce market volatility and massive panic sell-offs, giving traders time to reconsider their transactions"
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 08, 2016, 01:32:55 pm
Not talking about circuit breakers. Circuit breakers make perfect sense. Talking about how China constantly tries to control and manipulate their stock market and economy in general.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 08, 2016, 01:57:12 pm
@ Fawkes appologies for misunderstanding.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 08, 2016, 02:33:49 pm
I think Frikkie is in China...:'(
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Post by: Moonraker on January 08, 2016, 03:47:32 pm
US Payrolls ..
The 292,000 gain exceeded the highest forecast in a Bloomberg survey and followed a 252,000 increase in November that was stronger than previously estimated, a Labor Department report showed Friday. The median forecast in a Bloomberg survey called for a 200,000 advance. The jobless rate held at 5 percent, and wage growth rose less than forecast from a year earlier.
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Post by: Hstig on January 11, 2016, 08:00:18 am
Gold miners again today. R/KG is at R593000
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Post by: Patrick on January 11, 2016, 08:12:53 am
walking up to R16.80 to the dollar doesn't make for a good morning...
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Post by: jaDEB on January 11, 2016, 09:56:55 am
David Bowie, the Legendary Musician, Has Died at 69
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Post by: jaDEB on January 11, 2016, 12:46:17 pm
JSE recovering ?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 11, 2016, 02:04:51 pm
Yes, jaDEB looks like it..
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Post by: jaDEB on January 12, 2016, 09:41:50 am
So u happy u bought LON?..frikkin idiot
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on January 12, 2016, 10:22:44 am
Think that's called a swing and a miss J. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 12, 2016, 10:24:19 am
Yes, should have used a bigger bat :)
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 14, 2016, 08:28:47 am
I only recognize 1 in every 32 faces at gym these days, and yes, I have counted.  ;)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 14, 2016, 08:41:47 am
new year resolution, they will be gone by mid feb :)
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Post by: Patrick on January 14, 2016, 09:47:22 am
Yes, so crazy, and none of them know they're supposed to put the weights back when they're done!
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Post by: jaDEB on January 14, 2016, 10:25:25 am
I do my GYM stuff online :) Battlefield maps are huge...
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Post by: Moonraker on January 14, 2016, 10:45:12 am
I regard GYM stuff as a spectator sport.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 14, 2016, 10:58:45 am
lol
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Post by: Fanus on January 14, 2016, 11:59:41 am
Geeze, Lonmin is killing anything that comes near it
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Post by: jaDEB on January 14, 2016, 12:03:50 pm
yes, :'(, I thought R15 is the bottom..... luckily only took small portion
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on January 14, 2016, 12:06:15 pm
My home gym makes a fantastic drying rack
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 14, 2016, 12:28:00 pm
So most of you are chubby then, lol - got it.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 14, 2016, 12:37:09 pm
Real men have curves
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Post by: Samurai on January 14, 2016, 01:41:11 pm
Gym rat here, sadly my portfolio is as lean as my sixpack
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Post by: Samurai on January 15, 2016, 11:50:31 am
AB Inbev listed today :)
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Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2016, 12:39:12 pm
ANB added to the contest, hopefully they do better than ANC :P
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Post by: marguerittereed on January 15, 2016, 01:58:43 pm
stock market not for the faint-hearted.. week 3 of slump
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Post by: Patrick on January 15, 2016, 02:11:13 pm
Very true. The world index is at levels last seen in September 2013. If you're still working and buying, that's not a bad thing. It'll come back someday, but who knows when that will be... I'm still buying every month as per my usual plan.
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Post by: Moonraker on January 15, 2016, 02:26:52 pm
Realignment of stock valuations worldwide - was bound to occur, with China being the trigger. Deflationary fears.
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Post by: Moonraker on January 15, 2016, 05:51:36 pm
Amid a selloff that erased more than two years of gains -- about $14 trillion
-- from global stocks now on the brink of a bear market, at least earnings stood
as a potential bright spot. Those hopes are fading: analyst profit downgrades
outnumbered upgrades by the most since 2009 last week, according to monthly
data from a Citigroup Inc. index that tracks such changes.

“The momentum in the global economy is slowing down to such an extent that
people are seriously talking about recession,” said Zimmermann, a strategist at
Bankhaus Lampe in Dusseldorf. “This is not just China, it’s far more widespread.
There are few places to hide. Even defensives will feel the pain.”
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 18, 2016, 08:29:48 am
Asian shares slid to their lowest levels since late 2011 on Monday
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 18, 2016, 08:30:02 am
Guess it is gonna be another rough week
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Post by: jaDEB on January 18, 2016, 08:47:48 am
YEs I know :'(
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Post by: letlhogonolo on January 18, 2016, 01:45:23 pm
Ah Lonmin, The falling knife.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 18, 2016, 02:04:27 pm
It is sad :'(
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Post by: Diabolix on January 18, 2016, 04:08:23 pm
Glad I pulled out :P
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Post by: jaDEB on January 18, 2016, 04:52:54 pm
U.S. Markets closed for Martin Luther King, Jr. Day .
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Post by: jaDEB on January 19, 2016, 09:26:15 am
Who is going to call the bottom on the commodity cycle?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 19, 2016, 10:44:54 am
NPN :)
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 19, 2016, 12:18:05 pm
From what I have been reading we may have reached the bottom of the commodity cycle but we are going to stay down here for a long, long time. Sorry
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Post by: Moonraker on January 19, 2016, 12:34:00 pm
The International Monetary Fund cut its economic growth forecast for South Africa by almost half to less than 1 percent as commodity prices slump and global demand remains weak.
Gross domestic product in Africa’s most industrialized nation will probably expand 0.7 percent this year, compared with October’s estimate of 1.3 percent, the Washington-based lender said in an update to its World Economic Outlook report on Tuesday. The IMF cut its projection for 2017 by 0.3 percentage points to 1.8 percent.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2016, 07:00:20 am
WHat the FriKkie, is China the only country in the world.... xface here
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 20, 2016, 09:03:21 am
...no, only the largest economy in Asia, but who's counting.
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Post by: rjthomas on January 20, 2016, 09:08:30 am
Why can't I find MICROmega holdings MMG on the Investor Challenge?
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 20, 2016, 09:17:56 am
If it isn't traded more than 16 times a day it isn't allowed in the Investor Challenge. So that might be a reason.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 20, 2016, 09:19:21 am
@rjt:  Low trading, only 3 deals so far today, should it reach minimum deals allowed, you can just ask Patrick to add.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 20, 2016, 10:08:49 am
T40 down -940 pips @ 41881
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Post by: Pluto on January 20, 2016, 10:43:37 am
lonmin
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Post by: Pluto on January 20, 2016, 10:44:05 am
sorry ... thought it was the search box :)
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Post by: PsYcHZ on January 20, 2016, 11:00:01 am
how is lonmin doing? have they had any increases in share prices over this month?
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Post by: rjthomas on January 20, 2016, 11:01:45 am
@Moneypenny what platform or website do you use to see live trades? I want to subscribe to a platform to track my portfolio not available.
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Post by: Moneypenny on January 20, 2016, 11:14:13 am
For investing I have an acc with PSG Online, for CFD trading, account with IG Markets, both live prices.
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Post by: dieWerner on January 20, 2016, 11:23:35 am
ISB
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Post by: Patrick on January 20, 2016, 11:53:18 am
@PsYcHZ, take a look at what the holders at the bottom of the leaderboard have bought...
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2016, 12:19:32 pm
lol, I have a plan, ok, ok...
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Post by: czc on January 20, 2016, 12:22:01 pm
rand cost averaging
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Post by: Patrick on January 20, 2016, 12:35:44 pm
World index down 2.71% today, I must have missed some news... It's pretty much at January 2013 levels.
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Post by: Fanus on January 20, 2016, 02:06:19 pm
@jaDEB for your sake I hope it's to balance out losses on a tax return...but wait this is virtual money :0
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2016, 02:28:42 pm
Yes, virtual training :). Maybe the best time to learn is now.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 20, 2016, 02:36:43 pm
phocket !!!
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Post by: pratlou on January 20, 2016, 02:56:02 pm
MyBB members where are you ??
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Post by: Fanus on January 20, 2016, 03:23:32 pm
No more catching falling knives... I think it's time to hang on to my money
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Post by: czc on January 20, 2016, 03:37:02 pm
mybb members being sad about loosing so much fake money xD
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Post by: Sting on January 20, 2016, 08:59:17 pm
But for my Naspers shares I would have had a good start.
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Post by: gcr on January 21, 2016, 09:22:21 am
Interesting article on Moneyweb by Patrick Cairns "What's up with the Divi?"
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2016, 09:26:45 am
Patrick, I am 202 in the Investor challenge, how many people are taking part?
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Post by: Patrick on January 21, 2016, 10:32:16 am
I think someone else has recently joined jaDEB, now you're 203...
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Post by: Sting on January 21, 2016, 10:34:22 am
LOL
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2016, 10:38:54 am
I will go sit in the corner and cry, thanks Patrick and your competition for building my confidence.. :'(
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Post by: Sting on January 21, 2016, 10:39:01 am
@Patrick - n00b question - How often is the "net worth" updated?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2016, 10:40:26 am
Changed my music from ABBA to Ozzy Osborn, maybe that helps.. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on January 21, 2016, 11:29:34 am
thanks qriffin
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Post by: Orca on January 21, 2016, 12:23:29 pm
All SA passport holders earning under R800K to be deported from the UK come April.
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Post by: Patrick on January 21, 2016, 01:37:49 pm
@sting, it's live, but share values are 15 minute delayed
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Post by: gcr on January 21, 2016, 01:55:17 pm
All SA passport holders earning under R800K to be deported from the UK come April.
Is this just a UK/SA thing or are they doing for other nationals (dual) as well?
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Post by: Orca on January 21, 2016, 02:42:07 pm
Read on SA travel website but applicable to all non EU pp holders.
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Post by: marguerittereed on January 22, 2016, 11:04:37 am
 Mr Market is being "nice" today!! Shares all in the green!! At long last!!
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Post by: Fanus on January 22, 2016, 11:17:12 am
Let me try my hand at predictions: Monday will be a killer with major sell offs actross the board. JSE drops by 5%
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Post by: marguerittereed on January 22, 2016, 12:44:02 pm
Sounds like January2016
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Post by: Moonraker on January 22, 2016, 01:13:47 pm
@Fanus
If oil remains above 30$ plus the Draghi comments re. stimulus, I don't see a sell-off in Europe and US, and our market is very much correlated to what happens there. So, let's hope you are wrong about Monday. But, who knows ?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2016, 01:55:53 pm
@Fanus, looks like it is time for my tablets again... :'(
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Post by: Fanus on January 22, 2016, 02:47:22 pm
We have Zuma over ther making sure that everything goes smoothly. JaDEB you have nothing to worry about.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 22, 2016, 03:03:25 pm
Nooo, now I have to double my dosage ...
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Post by: marguerittereed on January 22, 2016, 04:39:31 pm
lonmin waking up!!
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 25, 2016, 05:46:06 am
Can someone tell me how Texton keeps buying properties, offshore, yet their share price keeps going down?
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Post by: jaDEB on January 25, 2016, 07:00:08 am
Patrick, where is you write up when u made wooden rings ? cannot find it, I is Noob.
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Post by: Patrick on January 25, 2016, 08:04:30 am
@jaDEB, couldn't find it, so I re-wrote it, then I found it: http://shareforum.co.za/off-topic/wood-you-like-to-make-a-wedding-ring/
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Post by: jaDEB on January 25, 2016, 08:07:14 am
Thank you Sir ..
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Post by: jaDEB on January 25, 2016, 08:08:45 am
:'( I did not boil the crap out of it ......
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Post by: Fanus on January 25, 2016, 10:35:51 am
@jaDEB My crystal ball is broken. It's the monday of smooth sailing
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Post by: jaDEB on January 25, 2016, 11:17:49 am
Yip, good news. but the day is not fin yet.
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Post by: Orca on January 26, 2016, 02:53:21 pm
The ZAR seems to have pegged itself  to the market performance now.
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2016, 09:20:26 am
What is up with LON?
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Post by: marguerittereed on January 27, 2016, 09:40:42 am
Platinum price has improved, so reflects on platinum mines
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2016, 09:52:26 am
No Plat Oct 2015 1013, Dec 2015 839, now 874
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2016, 11:01:19 am
UUgggg I feel dirty, posted on the darkside :'(
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Post by: TheKwok on January 27, 2016, 11:43:46 am
MTN looking waaaay too cheap on a PE of just 8.5
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Post by: Patrick on January 27, 2016, 12:08:19 pm
They're pricing in the loss of revenue to WhatsApp ;)
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Post by: Patrick on January 27, 2016, 12:12:17 pm
@jaDEB, couldn't find you on the rankings, I went all the way to the bottom but didn't see you...
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Post by: jaDEB on January 27, 2016, 12:29:55 pm
That is cause I is not bottom anymore, but 208th.... I will buy more now but u only giving me my next 100K monday
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2016, 10:14:10 am
Where is the LON "Shout" ?
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Post by: letlhogonolo on January 28, 2016, 10:30:39 am
I panick sold lonmin
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Post by: jaDEB on January 28, 2016, 10:42:57 am
at loss or profit?
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Post by: letlhogonolo on January 28, 2016, 10:45:41 am
yes, it's see-sawing it was up 7 percent and then down 5 percent, now I see it's up again.
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Post by: marguerittereed on January 28, 2016, 10:48:50 am
Lonmin released good trading statement today!!
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Post by: Orca on January 28, 2016, 11:53:54 am
ADI released good trading statement today
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Post by: Samurai on January 28, 2016, 01:28:09 pm
Kumba?
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Post by: Orca on January 28, 2016, 04:22:22 pm
CML surging up with the repo rate.
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Post by: Patrick on January 28, 2016, 04:39:18 pm
Rates increased by 50bps
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Post by: JohnnyH on January 28, 2016, 05:50:47 pm
Orca, why would CML be affected by the report rate?
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Post by: Orca on January 28, 2016, 06:03:25 pm
SA interest rates are higher sending foreign investors back in and this will increase CML earnings.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on January 29, 2016, 02:20:41 pm
Japan adopts negative interest rates

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35436187
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 01, 2016, 08:57:33 am
Telkom ADSL uncapped package my @zz
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Post by: jaDEB on February 01, 2016, 12:04:33 pm
I will have  Spice Girl song on my Apple till NPN hits R2000 again, help me please
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Post by: jaDEB on February 01, 2016, 12:07:41 pm
wiff some Phantom of the opera to soften the blow :'(
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 01, 2016, 02:01:10 pm
Telkom ADSL...It's the one thing I will truly miss if I were to leave Asia for SA. Proper, fast, uncapped internet.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 01, 2016, 04:03:02 pm
I would like to see SRE in competition. Maybe worth a punt.
Volumes are good and will move from ALTX to main board ± July.
How about it Patrick ?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 01, 2016, 04:36:32 pm
Whats up with MTN down 9% again?
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Post by: Patrick on February 02, 2016, 09:17:50 am
Hi moon. Any idea how often SRE trades per day? The minimum limit is 16 trades per day.
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Post by: Fanus on February 02, 2016, 09:24:27 am
@jaDeb... don't look behind you
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Post by: Moonraker on February 02, 2016, 10:15:44 am
Hi moon. Any idea how often SRE trades per day? The minimum limit is 16 trades per day.

Volumes are pretty high - with average of ± 300,000 per day. On the strength of that I would assume
that you could include them ?
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Post by: Patrick on February 02, 2016, 10:35:02 am
Ok, it's there
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Post by: Moonraker on February 02, 2016, 11:11:47 am
Thanks Patrick.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 02, 2016, 02:26:49 pm
Insert Crying face here !!
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 02, 2016, 02:50:37 pm
jaDEB when did you buy MTN?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 02, 2016, 04:27:52 pm
No I bought BIL
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2016, 06:52:14 am
agg, ffs Frikkie stopit...
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Post by: Patrick on February 03, 2016, 01:42:33 pm
Is Frikkie after the Rand too now?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2016, 02:07:48 pm
The only thing that is safe from Frikkie's onslaught is his pet pitbull terrier "Bob"
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2016, 03:43:48 pm
ACL :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2016, 04:09:50 pm
imagine u were short ACL/KIO today...ffs I am talking to myself again
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Post by: Nivek on February 03, 2016, 04:29:05 pm
You might be, but I'm watching you do it.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 03, 2016, 04:39:12 pm
lol, I feel better now, I think
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2016, 07:06:39 am
Rant is all over the place...... now back to R15.96
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Post by: Patrick on February 04, 2016, 07:17:17 am
would love to know why
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Post by: Patrick on February 04, 2016, 08:40:50 am
Apparently the dollar dropped by the most in 7 years yesterday on bad economic news. Also pushed oil up to 8% to $35 a barrel.
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Post by: Q on February 04, 2016, 09:48:19 am
We Have A New Leader
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2016, 09:50:16 am
Nice Q, I is still last, but I is creeping u from behind
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2016, 10:40:51 am
I is 3rd in the darkside comp :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2016, 10:50:39 am
nOW 1ST ... HEHHEHHEhehe
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Post by: jonker2000 on February 04, 2016, 11:09:42 am
snv
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Post by: jonker2000 on February 04, 2016, 11:09:43 am
snv
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Post by: Moonraker on February 04, 2016, 05:12:02 pm
nOW 1ST ... HEHHEHHEhehe

jaDEB, I see you are quoting from SONA, was it leaked ? HehhehHEEH.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2016, 05:15:59 pm
Yes, every time the sh#t hits the fan, I think of him laughing, I think he laughs at us..
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2016, 06:05:30 pm
SONA, State Of the Nation Address
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Post by: jaDEB on February 04, 2016, 06:07:57 pm
What SGL at R40!!! was at R19 in Dec 2015...
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Post by: Kr1mZoN on February 05, 2016, 08:57:00 am
nedbank
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Post by: pious on February 05, 2016, 01:10:21 pm
anglo
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 05, 2016, 01:25:43 pm
Maybe add a disclaimer somewhere that the search box is below?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 05, 2016, 01:52:34 pm
lol
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Post by: jaDEB on February 05, 2016, 01:52:58 pm
Money
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Post by: Orca on February 05, 2016, 03:52:04 pm
USD strengthens sharply due to NFP results?
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Post by: Moonraker on February 06, 2016, 06:58:33 pm
"Once market internals deteriorate, central bank easing fails to provoke speculation, on average. The gas pedal is useless when the spark plugs are gone. Worse, central bank easing, in the context of unfavorable market internals, is typically a response to unexpected economic weakness. As a result, such “panic” easings are often followed by a further collapse."
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Post by: Nios on February 06, 2016, 08:33:09 pm
anyone know where i can find a list of all SA REITs with their divvies?
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Post by: Nios on February 06, 2016, 08:33:12 pm
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Post by: jaDEB on February 08, 2016, 07:08:58 am
Chinese holidays
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Post by: Patrick on February 08, 2016, 10:19:58 am
Happy fire monkey year :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 08, 2016, 11:57:54 am
Happy fire monkey year to u as well, Patrick, where is I on leaderboard? my screen is broken again...  :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on February 08, 2016, 12:44:44 pm
What the hell is up with my NPN :'(
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Post by: Patrick on February 08, 2016, 04:10:07 pm
Not sure I'll use this but... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/funds/12095408/How-the-scrabble-index-beat-the-stock-market.html
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Post by: Patrick on February 08, 2016, 05:21:50 pm
I think we'll call jaDEB the comeback kid from now on. Doubling down on LON took some balls!
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Post by: jaDEB on February 08, 2016, 05:31:37 pm
:)
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 09, 2016, 09:26:10 am
It fits my idea of how I 'see' JaDEB - that guy from Back to the Future - the young one. :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 09, 2016, 10:35:19 am
Thanks MoneyPenny :), now can some1 please get Frikkie the %$#@ out of the Naspers Offices...Please !!
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 09, 2016, 12:19:17 pm
F RPL
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Post by: jaDEB on February 09, 2016, 02:43:54 pm
Frikkie is sitting next to me, hitting me on the head. He even took my wallet...bastard
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Post by: Q on February 09, 2016, 03:50:28 pm
Naspers?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 09, 2016, 03:52:49 pm
yeS, nASPERS IS 64% OF MY pORT....DRugs SOME1 gIVe ME druGS..
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Post by: Patrick on February 09, 2016, 04:23:07 pm
That's the reason the STXIND scares me. Waaay too much in NPN (and SAB, and CFR) for my liking. I don't think anyone should hold 10%+ in anything, unless your name is Koos Bekker...
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Post by: Hamster on February 09, 2016, 05:04:23 pm
I don't like that heavy NPN weighting in the STXIND either. But I don't know how to fix it other than buying more Top40/PTXTEN or something to supplement my STXIND?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 09, 2016, 05:07:54 pm
Now the dow/NDQ is positive...wtf!!!
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Post by: jaDEB on February 10, 2016, 07:36:25 am
Negative
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Post by: Fanus on February 10, 2016, 09:04:47 am
@jaDeb what a miraculous comeback
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Post by: jaDEB on February 10, 2016, 11:18:27 am
:), did it years ago also, with a share SGL
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Post by: jaDEB on February 10, 2016, 11:58:16 am
Back to No 1 on the darkside
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Post by: jaDEB on February 10, 2016, 11:58:28 am
Hold thumbs ..... :)
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Post by: lloydluvinspace on February 10, 2016, 01:52:29 pm
Back to No 1 on the darkside....

okay what does that mean? Excuse my misinformed Q  :o
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Post by: jaDEB on February 10, 2016, 03:35:54 pm
It is the sharenet stock picks - :)
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Post by: Showmethemoney on February 10, 2016, 05:08:48 pm
gold
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on February 11, 2016, 09:51:28 am
whl - wow
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Post by: Patrick on February 11, 2016, 11:01:44 am
Wow nearly 10% down, what happened? I also see world markets are down 2%, anyone know why?
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on February 11, 2016, 11:26:20 am
Have no clue - results seemed decent.
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Post by: Orca on February 11, 2016, 11:30:49 am
ALSI down almost 13% from 2015 highs. Woolies???? Great results and drops like a stone.
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Post by: Bevan on February 11, 2016, 01:51:52 pm
Yellen spoke yesterday and underwhelmed the market.... this feels very much like 2007 again.... could see imminent bank failures.... Deutsche Bank on watchlist...
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Post by: Bevan on February 11, 2016, 01:52:39 pm
As they said of Lehman Bros in 2008, if you have to come out and say you're credit worthy, then it's already too late.....
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Post by: Bevan on February 11, 2016, 01:54:36 pm
All of 2014 and 2015's stock market gains have been wiped off the Dow....
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Post by: Bevan on February 11, 2016, 01:55:58 pm
ZAR showing remarkable strength in circumstances.... shows how incredibly oversold it was.....
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Post by: Orca on February 11, 2016, 02:40:55 pm
Has Zuma started his speech? Longest red candle I have ever seen at 14H20 on the USD/ZAR.
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Post by: gcr on February 11, 2016, 02:50:48 pm
The market has already factored in a negative SONA address this evening - needs to be impeached
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Post by: jaDEB on February 11, 2016, 03:07:00 pm
What time is SONA? 7pm?
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Post by: Patrick on February 11, 2016, 03:45:07 pm
Yes 7pm. I had some cash lying in my account, decided to buy this afternoon, let's see if it was a wise decision...
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Post by: erwintwr on February 11, 2016, 04:00:22 pm
hmmm hint hint what did you buy? i made 13% on gold today ( SGL/ HAR/ ANG / GFI), but decided not to push it while markets is closed.
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Post by: Patrick on February 11, 2016, 04:23:49 pm
nothing exciting, just some divtrx. unfortunately i ask bought some VWRD yesterday, should have waited till today....
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Post by: Orca on February 11, 2016, 06:09:47 pm
Managed to pick up SABC2 live on the internet so will be watching the SONA here in Portugal.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 11, 2016, 07:47:12 pm
eNCA livestream on YouTube is better
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Post by: Orca on February 11, 2016, 09:29:19 pm
EFF has made the ZAR to tank. Made a mockery of SA and no matter what Zuma says, bananas will be dished out at the dinner.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 12, 2016, 07:08:09 am
The rant is at R15.89, but yes it is hardbreaking how they act
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Post by: jaDEB on February 12, 2016, 12:35:08 pm
Frikkie, I am getting old, enjoying Bette Midler music on my I-Pod :'(
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Post by: jaDEB on February 12, 2016, 04:39:07 pm
ACL +25%, AGL + 16%, BIL + 6%, KIO + 16% :)
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Post by: Patrick on February 12, 2016, 04:44:54 pm
yes I'm also feeling quite smart for buying divtrx yesterday
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Post by: Moonraker on February 13, 2016, 03:40:23 pm
@Fawkes85 Reason for drop RPL, CCO and others.  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-12/central-london-real-estate-losing-haven-status-as-bears-move-in

RPL better than CCO due to German exposure plus no luxury ultra high rental stuff.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 15, 2016, 09:51:49 am
http://www.sharenet.co.za/v3/stockpicks/index.php?facebook=    :)
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on February 15, 2016, 09:55:27 am
bit happier today with RPL and TEX fawkes? :)
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Post by: Moonraker on February 15, 2016, 10:08:56 am
All to do with Brexit jitters. A positive is that HSBC announced that they will keep their HO in central London.
(RPL up on pocket change volume - not indicative).
I hope that there won't be a Brexit, it will cause havoc.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 15, 2016, 01:06:19 pm
Yeah. RPL not up much. Still way off from where it was a mere two months ago. TEX shot up but I don't think it will hold. Will probably fall back down in an hour or two.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 15, 2016, 02:17:26 pm
With RPL there is also the raising of GBP 100 million for the AUK acquisition coming up. Part of the multi year restructuring of RPL.
Pain now, but going forward should be good, even with Brexit.
It's hard to beat NEPI/RES/FFB and those are the ones that should form the bulk of a REIT/Property portfolio.
I also like SRE.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 16, 2016, 09:32:57 am
Kumba shareholders are referred to the announcement today by Anglo American plc (“Anglo American”),
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Post by: jaDEB on February 16, 2016, 09:33:35 am
 of its intention to exit its 69.7% shareholding in the Company, at the appropriate time and in an orderly manner
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Post by: jaDEB on February 16, 2016, 12:18:48 pm
Oakbay Resources and Energy Ltd. - Chairman: Atul Kumar Gupta
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Post by: Patrick on February 16, 2016, 01:07:13 pm
This seems like a pretty accurate view of what was going on in December. seems we have a fight on between two very wealthy families: http://m.fin24.com/fin24/BizNews/named-van-rooyens-two-gupta-advisors-who-almost-hijacked-sa-treasury-20160215
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Post by: Orca on February 16, 2016, 06:40:47 pm
Seems like Zuma is toast.
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Post by: czc on February 16, 2016, 07:35:23 pm
Why, what happened today.
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Post by: Orca on February 16, 2016, 08:49:45 pm
I was referring to Patrick's post below.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 17, 2016, 03:33:50 pm
What is up with KIO ?
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Post by: Orca on February 17, 2016, 06:39:18 pm
I call USD/ZAR at R13,8 within 2-3 weeks.
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Post by: Patrick on February 17, 2016, 06:55:02 pm
I'm watching it had back to normal levels with a big sigh of relief, you've been right before about other things Orca, I'm hoping you are again here!
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Post by: gcr on February 17, 2016, 10:02:08 pm
If Zuma resigns tomorrow - then it should head back to below R 10 to the US$ >:D
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Post by: Orca on February 17, 2016, 11:42:46 pm
No. Inflation will catch up to inhibit further strengthening of the ZAR.
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Post by: Patrick on February 18, 2016, 08:54:12 am
Only 7 working days left to max out your tax free savings account. If you haven't put R30k into it (for each of your family members) make sure you do, even if it means selling your regular holdings. ABSA stockbrokers and Easy Equities are the cheapest providers around.
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Post by: Moneypenny on February 18, 2016, 08:56:17 am
Good tip :)
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Post by: gcr on February 18, 2016, 02:52:14 pm
Well I am presently negotiating with my stock brokers to open a TFSA account, whereby fees will waived or significantly reduced due to my share portfolio being held with them (normal mst, strate fees etc will apply), and they can show my holding on the same platform - so will be happy if I get this right
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Post by: Patrick on February 18, 2016, 03:07:31 pm
Sounds interesting, which broker is that GCR? PS I see the rand at under R15.40, hope it keeps going!
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Post by: jaDEB on February 18, 2016, 04:48:43 pm
Darkside, jaDEB 53%, Happyboy 37%....hold thumbs
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Post by: Q on February 18, 2016, 06:04:44 pm
World's Largest Hedge Fund Bridgewater Pure Alpha Lost Over 10% Or $8 Billion In The Last Two Weeks
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Post by: Orca on February 18, 2016, 08:36:17 pm
US red tonight sending the dollar higher. Not good for ZAR in the very short term.
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Post by: Q on February 19, 2016, 11:20:31 am
MTN -18%
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Post by: 100ways on February 19, 2016, 12:28:41 pm
JUST BOUGHT -  :TU:
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2016, 12:33:56 pm
Nice
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Post by: 100ways on February 19, 2016, 01:35:08 pm
Hopefully will have a quick bounce in the next week or so  :LHST:
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Post by: jaDEB on February 19, 2016, 02:17:03 pm
Darkside update, jaDEB 53%, Happyboy 33%....hold thumbs
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Post by: Q on February 19, 2016, 04:38:08 pm
Thumbs Being Held :)
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Post by: Patrick on February 19, 2016, 10:00:02 pm
I'm out of fingernails after that cricket match!
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Post by: Molebogeng on February 22, 2016, 11:00:16 am
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Post by: Q on February 22, 2016, 11:24:01 am
World trade is so bad that cargo ships are being scrapped at double the 1986 record rate
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Post by: Orca on February 22, 2016, 02:52:29 pm
Pound tumbles as Boris Johnson backs Brexit. The sterling is the most expensive currency in the world.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 22, 2016, 03:42:23 pm
Yes, and it's wreaking havoc on GBP Rand hedges. Would you like to see Brexit ?
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Post by: Orca on February 22, 2016, 03:45:19 pm
Yes because it will bring down the Euro as well. I need that now.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 22, 2016, 05:53:19 pm
Darkside update. jaDEB 60%, Happyboy 42%....
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Post by: Patrick on February 22, 2016, 07:37:46 pm
rand at R15.18...
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Post by: Orca on February 22, 2016, 08:11:39 pm
The Rand is not a Rant now. My prediction of 13,80 looks in sight already.
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Post by: Luna on February 23, 2016, 06:41:07 am
Uhh... the Sterling isn't the most expensive currency in the world. The Kuwaiti Dinar is.
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Post by: Luna on February 23, 2016, 06:41:47 am
Just saying :)
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Post by: Luna on February 23, 2016, 06:43:16 am
Or am I wrong?
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Post by: Q on February 23, 2016, 07:28:04 am
BHP Billiton Slashes Dividend By 75% On 92% Profit Plunge, Announces $4.9 Billion Shale Writedown
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Post by: jaDEB on February 23, 2016, 08:13:32 am
FFS, was it expected or am I in for a hiding?
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Post by: Q on February 23, 2016, 08:25:59 am
lol BHP closed +2.62% in Aussie Land
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Post by: gcr on February 23, 2016, 09:07:35 am
Curro going to market for another R 1 billion present p/e + 185. Another day at the races?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 23, 2016, 09:17:38 am
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 23, 2016, 09:49:13 am
:'(
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Post by: Orca on February 23, 2016, 03:01:12 pm
@luna. You are correct if you compare it to the USD.
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Post by: Samurai on February 24, 2016, 07:06:00 am
south32
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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2016, 11:08:47 am
everything gone south !!! :"(
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Post by: Samurai on February 24, 2016, 11:28:06 am
Huawei Technologies buying Telkom or just a rumor?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2016, 03:20:29 pm
This will mostly be through yet another big increase of 30 cents per litre in the fuel levy as well as increases in capital gains tax, property transfer tax and an increase of about 7% in the usual sin taxes (alcohol and tobacco).
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Post by: Moonraker on February 24, 2016, 03:47:56 pm
Hey, not too bad. CGT = 40% inclusion rate and 16,4% max. effective if you are in the top marginal bracket (41%)
Annual exclusion of R40 000 capital gain or capital loss is granted to
individuals and special trusts. (Up from 30.000.-)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 24, 2016, 03:49:48 pm
Fanks Mr Bond :)
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Post by: Moonraker on February 24, 2016, 03:58:15 pm
Nothing of substance to change the framework to business friendly - and the Rand drops.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 24, 2016, 04:01:50 pm
“Market expectations were a lot higher for a more austere budget,” Mike Schussler, chief economist at Johannesburg-based research group Economists.co.za, said by phone. “Will they really be able to curtail the wage bill? That’s the key question.”
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Post by: Samurai on February 24, 2016, 04:16:50 pm
Withholding tax increase from 10% to 15% ???
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Post by: Moonraker on February 24, 2016, 04:21:38 pm
Withholding tax was and remains @ 15%
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Post by: Samurai on February 24, 2016, 04:34:47 pm
Moonraker, now I hav nothing to complain about :(
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Post by: Orca on February 24, 2016, 08:49:50 pm
Austerity measures not nearly strict enough to attract foreign investors. Upcoming elections more  important seems.
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Post by: Patrick on February 24, 2016, 09:00:02 pm
Yes, for the last few weeks Pravin has done all the right things, pity he couldn't finish strong today.
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Post by: Mr_Dividend on February 25, 2016, 10:03:45 am
If you liked Sin City and 300 - watch Deadpool - well worth it
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2016, 12:01:23 pm
:'(
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Post by: Fanus on February 25, 2016, 03:30:23 pm
@jaDeb You knew lonmin was a very unstable card to play?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2016, 04:05:11 pm
YEs, I know ... only 1% of my real portfolio :)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2016, 04:05:38 pm
How the F%$Kpkl can this be true "South Africa's unemployment rate fell to 24.5 percent of the labour force in the fourth quarter of the year from 25.5 percent in the third quarter, official data showed on Thursday"
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Post by: Fanus on February 25, 2016, 04:50:01 pm
I wouldn't even believe the 25.5% until I get the official source data.  It's not for the public to know how these figures come about so why should I trust them at all?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 25, 2016, 05:40:46 pm
Darkside update, jaDEB 67%, myshare 59%.... :'(
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Post by: Fanus on February 26, 2016, 08:53:07 am
Let's get some positive speculation going : How long is this rush into mining going to continue?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2016, 10:09:49 am
No idea, but I based my thinking on it will be a while, 6 months
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Post by: jaDEB on February 26, 2016, 11:58:07 am
Darkside update, jaDEB 72%, myshare 58%....  comp closes Monday COB
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Post by: Orca on February 26, 2016, 07:25:13 pm
Who to blame for ZAR? Brazil, Moody or Gordhan? Perhaps the bickering politicians?
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Post by: gcr on February 26, 2016, 07:55:03 pm
Yup - Zuma acting like a petulant child and now getting his cohorts to start gouging Gordhan's eyes out. The drop in the Rand today is quite frightening.
Pity so few of the NEC have no backbone and are unable to see the wood for the trees
What is it with the ANC and its followers they seem hellbent on destroying things rather than improving or building new things.
Seems like the idiots and savages are running the show whether it be in parliament or universities with all this "this must fall" and "that must fall" hard work and dedication seems like an unholy word
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Post by: Patrick on February 26, 2016, 10:08:24 pm
Yes, it seems there is a war on in the ruling party. The President is a wounded animal, and therefore very dangerous. It might be a bit premature to say it, but I think JZ is losing the battle, and quite possibly his mind too. I'm thinking that if we get a court ruling against Zuma, either soon in terms of the constitutional court ruling on Nkandla, or at some point in the future related to the soon to be reinstated corruption charges that we'll see him recalled. I can no longer see him finishing this term.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 27, 2016, 07:15:58 am
'Hard work and dedication seem like and unholy word.' Seems to be the biggest problem with us millennials. We were raised in a very liberal world that told us that we are entitled to everything. We are a lost generation.
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Post by: gcr on February 27, 2016, 01:52:36 pm
There are 2 issues that may well keep Zuma as president 1) The IEC may not be able to run elections this year even though legally they have to hold an election by latest August this year - reason Con Court has instructed IEC to obtain and record physical addresses for voters 2) Zuma is hugely popular in the rural areas because of his roots, so withdrawing him before the elections would create a problem for the ANC in terms of votes cast for them in these areas. Once the elections are squared off then there is every likelihood that he will be withdrawn. The problem is the ANC don't have a universally acceptable leader to replace Zuma as all of the punted candidates all have baggage Mbete - fraudulent drivers license via one John Block; Duarte - her husband had an accident in her state vehicle and she tried every trick in the book to hide the incident (car was written off if I recall correctly). Squirrel Cyril - has survived in business through BEE largesse but is not a competent business owner and has Marikana hanging over his head, Dlamini Zuma - supposedly will ensure no charges are laid against her ex husband and so will protect the guilty, also whilst holding her various portfolios whilst in government she was no ball of fire Home Affairs is still a shambles
So who does the ANC put forward is a serious problem - there are no competent leaders within the NEC/PEC - as a wild option maybe the sitting Minister of Finance should be given the job as he seems to have the country at heart but seen as too business friendly, but I do believe he could do the job and would have the creditability of foreigners and SA citizens alike
Just me views - now - on with researching how to squirrel money out of the country without raising alarm bells   
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Post by: Moonraker on February 27, 2016, 03:07:36 pm
Barclays to sell R120bn Absa. The annoucement is on Tuesday. Who's next
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 28, 2016, 05:02:13 am
Japan's population down by 1 million. Can't be good for Japanese economy.
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 28, 2016, 05:10:42 am
Also Hawks backtracked and said they are not investigating Gordhan. And so Zuma loses another battle.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 28, 2016, 05:54:48 pm
Where did you get that info Fawkes85 ?
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Post by: Moonraker on February 28, 2016, 05:55:15 pm
Zuma wants Gordhan to cooperate with Hawks - report

 
Cape Town - Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan will not receive any help from President Jacob Zuma relating to the so-called rogue unit at SA Revenue Service (Sars) at the time he was commissioner, according to City Press.

This despite the Presidency rejecting claims of a conspiracy against Gordhan and the African National Congress (ANC) issuing a formal statement of support for Gordhan.

The paper reported on Sunday that The Hawks are confident that they have a strong case against Gordhan, adding that Zuma was briefed by Police Minister Nathi Nhleko and Hawks head Major General Mthandazo Ntlemeza on the progress of the case at a meeting last month.

Zuma, who is said to believe that Gordhan should cooperate with investigators, was taken through the details of the case.

In a letter sent to Gordhan last Friday, Gordhan was given until Wednesday to hand-deliver his responses to 27 questions over his involvement with the formation of the so-called rogue unit at Sars.

Secretary General Gwede Mantashe said the ruling party was "extremely concerned" about reports that the Hawks sent questions to Gordhan four days before his Budget Speech about his knowledge of a rogue unit.

However, Zuma's office indirectly hit back at Mantashe, saying it "noted rumours and gossip which insinuate some conspiracy" against the finance minister.

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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 28, 2016, 06:10:03 pm
On the News24 app
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 28, 2016, 06:13:35 pm
No. Sorry. Pretoria News website.

"There is no investigation into Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan, the Hawks confirmed yesterday(Friday), despite a series of questions sent to him about his knowledge of a so-called “rogue” intelligence unit that allegedly operated at the SA Revenue Service during his term as commissioner there."

http://www.iol.co.za/business/news/hawks-back-off-gordhan-1990623
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 28, 2016, 06:15:21 pm
Zuma must have called them off as he was once again reminded that Treasury is off limits to him.
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Post by: Moonraker on February 28, 2016, 06:17:58 pm
OK, but Z. does not want to let PG off the hook. Link to my previous http://www.fin24.com/Economy/zuma-wants-gordhan-to-cooperate-with-hawks-report-20160228
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Post by: Moonraker on February 28, 2016, 06:27:37 pm
That and the IEC problem (possibly no local elections this year) means ZA is truly you know what. Who is the bright spark predicting R/$ below 14 ?
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Post by: Orca on February 28, 2016, 08:23:42 pm
That was me. I predicted that and I was correct for weeks as the ZAR strengthened almost daily and it was a good call as no one saw Brazil and the SARB/Hawkes saga coming. Had that not happened, the ZAR would have gained substantially against the USD after Gordhan's speech.
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Post by: Immobilier on February 28, 2016, 09:14:07 pm
Marco - you are always right, just like my wife - ifs and buts notwithstanding. Had the sun not come up today, I would have a been a billionaire.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 29, 2016, 08:00:39 am
•   I'm going to retire and live off of my savings. Not sure what I'll do the second week.
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Post by: jaDEB on February 29, 2016, 08:16:49 am
tHERE GoES my 1st PLaCE on dArkSiDE "Kumba to vigorously defend SARS tax assessment" FFS
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Post by: Fawkes85 on February 29, 2016, 10:02:15 am
@Moonraker I get what you are saying but do you think it matters what JZ want anymore? He's not the all powerful man he was just six months ago. Even his strongest allies, Gwede Mantashe being the biggest, have left him. What JZ wants does not necessarily translate into what JZ gets anymore.
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Post by: Fanus on February 29, 2016, 10:17:47 am
Here comes the next round of resources doubling up
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Post by: jaDEB on February 29, 2016, 10:48:48 am
:)
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Post by: jaDEB on February 29, 2016, 11:44:53 am
Darkside Update jaDEB 85%, myshare 67%. sorry about the posting but I am keen on winning.
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Post by: Q on February 29, 2016, 03:25:55 pm
F%^*ING NETFLIX, My VPN not working anymore. Of course you will win jaDEB
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Post by: Fanus on February 29, 2016, 04:07:22 pm
@JaDEB what percentages are you quoting below?
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Post by: jaDEB on February 29, 2016, 04:40:55 pm
Darkside (Sharenet Competition) - http://www.sharenet.co.za/v3/stockpicks/index.php?facebook=
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Post by: jaDEB on February 29, 2016, 04:44:27 pm
Darkside Update jaDEB 87%, myshare 64%..
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Post by: jaDEB on February 29, 2016, 05:52:22 pm
:)
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Post by: Patrick on February 29, 2016, 06:45:39 pm
Congrats jaDEB, see if you can make it a double over here.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 01, 2016, 07:05:48 am
Thks Patrick, will try my best !!
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Post by: Q on March 01, 2016, 12:17:05 pm
Patrick any chance adding NEWUSD to the list
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Post by: Moonraker on March 01, 2016, 03:04:19 pm
Wtf..

Shares in Barclays Plc fell as much as 11 percent in London trading this morning after the lender announced it was slashing its dividend and reducing its stake in its Africa unit in an attempt to shrink the bank and build capital ratios. Barclays also announced that it had identified potential money-laundering activities at its South African business, where it is also subject to a wider investigation over whether banks including Barclays colluded to rig the rand. Shares were trading 10.7 percent lower at 10:55 a.m. London time.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 01, 2016, 03:22:14 pm
wtf !!! agree...
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Post by: jaDEB on March 02, 2016, 10:22:02 am
Fikkie is not at KIO, that is for sure.. maybe he is drawing money at ABSA.
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Post by: Samurai on March 02, 2016, 10:24:32 am
KIO looking good hey, hope they can keep going up...
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Post by: Pluto on March 02, 2016, 11:09:51 am
Thanks for the TFSA reminder Patrick, my R30000 is now R31000 ... Not bad for a weeks work :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 02, 2016, 12:58:49 pm
Damn, Samurai, we jinxed KIO... :'(
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Post by: Orca on March 02, 2016, 02:28:22 pm
F & G index in the "greed" area. The highest this year. Are we in the eye of the storm?
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Post by: marguerittereed on March 02, 2016, 02:54:34 pm
Lonmin finally broke even from December!!!!!
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Post by: jaDEB on March 02, 2016, 04:38:47 pm
I also want NPN to recover to R2200.... :)
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Post by: Samurai on March 02, 2016, 05:04:04 pm
Did not see KIO dropping by 7% today... downing a scotch tonight.
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Post by: lloydluvinspace on March 03, 2016, 01:03:55 pm
Q, is one allowed to utilised profits gain withing the Easy Equities tax free savings account to buy more ETF within the same TFS?
are there any implications when does this?
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Post by: Patrick on March 03, 2016, 01:16:09 pm
Yes, you really should be doing this. You can buy the same ETF, or a different one, just don't leave your money in cash, it earns very little for you.
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Post by: lloydluvinspace on March 03, 2016, 01:28:35 pm
 :TU:
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Post by: Q on March 03, 2016, 02:59:11 pm
Patrick how about adding NEWUSD to the competition
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Post by: Patrick on March 03, 2016, 03:08:19 pm
It's on the way.
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Post by: Patrick on March 03, 2016, 03:12:27 pm
Done
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Post by: Q on March 03, 2016, 04:29:32 pm
Thanks
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Post by: Tremaine on March 03, 2016, 05:48:11 pm
hi
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Post by: Tremaine on March 03, 2016, 05:49:25 pm
aip
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Post by: jaDEB on March 03, 2016, 05:50:35 pm
Hello
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Post by: Moneypenny on March 04, 2016, 06:29:43 am
Say what?
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Post by: Hstig on March 04, 2016, 07:21:39 am
watch the goldminers today
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Post by: Patrick on March 04, 2016, 08:00:28 am
Been watching them for ages, but I don't understand it one bit!
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Post by: Hstig on March 04, 2016, 08:20:41 am
The simple answer is they produce in rands and sell in dollars. So weak R/$ bettter margins for same effort, but they are very sensitive to the $/oz price of gold. Global unrest( North Korea) and economic turmoil have also re-inforced gold's safe haven status
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Post by: Tefofo on March 04, 2016, 08:35:20 am
Hi there,

 would like to withdraw some money
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Post by: jaDEB on March 04, 2016, 09:16:59 am
lol
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Post by: FransH on March 04, 2016, 10:15:41 am
Please add PETMIN
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Post by: Patrick on March 04, 2016, 05:21:55 pm
I'll look into it FransH, are they regularly traded?
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Post by: Patrick on March 05, 2016, 10:50:09 am
Haha Tefofo, were you being serious or just funny?
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Post by: Fawkes85 on March 05, 2016, 06:06:33 pm
I think he was actually serious lol
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Post by: Patrick on March 05, 2016, 07:29:23 pm
You might be right, his only other post was in the chat in August last year and said "How do I get the moola? "!
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Post by: FransH on March 06, 2016, 10:39:08 am
Not that regular but expecting something nice coming. please add
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Post by: Luna on March 07, 2016, 07:45:06 am
Petmin SENS released
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Post by: Patrick on March 07, 2016, 07:57:19 am
@Frans, when we enabled selling we agreed that it needs to be traded at least 16 times per day, any idea if it is traded that much? anyone else have that data perhaps?
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Post by: Samurai on March 07, 2016, 10:35:39 am
Kumba making a comeback :)
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Post by: Patrick on March 07, 2016, 11:16:49 am
In case anyone is wondering, all the RMB ETFs are now called ASH ETFs after the name change to Ashburton.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 07, 2016, 01:18:50 pm
Platinum hit 1000 USD :)
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Post by: Samurai on March 07, 2016, 03:09:50 pm
South 32 also seeing to be doing well Value buy?
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Post by: gcr on March 07, 2016, 03:53:20 pm
My opinion - anybody who invests in resources presently needs to take a valium at night :laugh:
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Post by: Q on March 07, 2016, 04:47:02 pm
Iron Ore jumped 19% today
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Post by: Q on March 07, 2016, 04:47:23 pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-07/iron-ore-jumps-most-on-record-as-market-goes-berserk-on-china
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Post by: brad on March 07, 2016, 07:17:35 pm
@Frans, when we enabled selling we agreed that it needs to be traded at least 16 times per day, any idea if it is traded that much? anyone else have that data perhaps?
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Post by: jaDEB on March 08, 2016, 06:59:13 am
If u invested in resources 4 weeks ago, u would have made some nice cash :)
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Post by: FransH on March 08, 2016, 07:28:36 am
no sorry don't have! anyway too late now they jumped already
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Post by: Patrick on March 08, 2016, 07:49:25 am
Thanks for the attatchment Brad, can you help me figure out the columns. I imagine it's open, high, low, close, but what is D? The rest I get, but is D trades per day perhaps?
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Post by: Orca on March 08, 2016, 11:38:09 am
PETMIN trades more than 16 a day. Today is half done and it already has 34 trades.
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Post by: Patrick on March 08, 2016, 12:29:53 pm
Ok, thanks for that, it's been added, should be available in about 15 minutes.
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Post by: brad on March 08, 2016, 03:31:52 pm
Yes correct "D"means deals or trades per day.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 08, 2016, 05:48:56 pm
If u have KIO, LON, or BIL u need Steel [email protected] Any1 got some for me ?
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Post by: Samurai on March 08, 2016, 06:44:03 pm
bought [email protected] sold @93 still happy.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 09, 2016, 06:55:25 am
Nice :)
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Post by: jaDEB on March 09, 2016, 06:59:22 am
Trump: I'm more presidential than anyone except Lincoln
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Post by: Patrick on March 09, 2016, 11:48:08 am
Moody's on way to SA for thorough review http://www.fin24.com/Economy/moodys-on-way-to-sa-for-thorough-review-20160309
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Post by: jaDEB on March 09, 2016, 12:48:35 pm
Should I wait at the Airport for them lol !!
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Post by: Orca on March 09, 2016, 07:22:10 pm
ZAR strengthens by 1,8% as emerging markets rebound on USA results.
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Post by: Patrick on March 09, 2016, 08:34:19 pm
Ah I was wondering what happened. Moody's announces they're coming and the rand strengthens, didn't make sense to me!
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Post by: Patrick on March 10, 2016, 07:53:50 am
R15.21/$, now all we need is for moodys to not downgrade us and we might dip under R15 for the first time in a long time.
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Post by: krycor on March 10, 2016, 10:09:46 am
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2016, 12:10:44 pm
Moody will only downgrade SA to one notch above junk. This will not have a lasting effect on the ZAR.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 10, 2016, 02:57:52 pm
The European Central Bank cut all three interest rates and said it will expand its quantitative easing program in a bid to spur growth and inflation.
QE monthly purchases up from 60 billion € to 80 billion € -- more than expected.
The 25-member Governing Council, meeting in Frankfurt on Thursday, cut the rate on cash parked overnight by banks by 10 basis points to minus 0.4 percent, and its benchmark rate to zero. Bond purchases were raised to 80 billion euros ($87 billion) a month, starting in April, and corporate bonds will now be eligible.

So, € should weaken against US $ .. let's see what happens to the crosses.
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2016, 03:08:27 pm
With that, we may see the ZAR below R15 today.
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2016, 04:25:24 pm
And that is why only 3% of FX traders make money.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 10, 2016, 04:27:14 pm
Manufacturing output weighing on Rand ?

Manufacturing output in Africa's most advanced economy unexpectedly contracted by 2.5 percent year-on-year in January after rising by a revised 0.5 percent in December, Statistics South Africa said.
Economists polled by Reuters had expected factory production to rise marginally by 0.2 percent.
On a month-on-month basis, manufacturing was down 1.8 percent, and was also down 1.1 percent in the three months to January compared with the previous three months, the statistics agency said.
"Weak demand, higher input costs and a death of confidence are all likely to continue to keep the manufacturing sector hovering around recessionary levels in 2016," BNP Paribas Securities economist Jeffrey Schultz said.
Statistics South Africa said mining output fell by 4.5 percent year-on-year in January.
Disappointing economic growth has heightened fears South Africa's credit rating could be cut to sub-investment grade and further unnerve investors concerned about President Jacob Zuma's handling of the economy.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 10, 2016, 04:35:33 pm


U.S. Weekly Jobless Claims Drop More Than Expected

The Labor Department said initial jobless claims dropped to 259,000, a decrease of 18,000 from the previous week's revised level of 277,000.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 10, 2016, 05:43:33 pm
Orca, are you as baffled as I am ? € now a lot stronger than just after ECB from 1.08 to over 1.115 US $ to €. Rand however much weaker, from 15.08 to 15.38.
Is it the ZA manufacturing output data referred to ealier on ?
I have absolutely no idea.   
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2016, 07:02:01 pm
Yes Moon. Defies logic. ZAR gained on the news and turned around with a vengeance. WTF? The EURO should have lost value and not gained.
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Post by: Q on March 10, 2016, 07:05:47 pm
If you traded FX it makes perfect sense
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2016, 07:11:40 pm
Most traders do not trade on the news but wait for it to turn before getting in as the move is always overdone and will retract back but not as far. This retractment is not logical to me.
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Post by: Q on March 10, 2016, 07:30:47 pm
Apparently a Flower Show in China was responsible for Iron Ore Jumping 19% recently (FT)
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2016, 07:39:33 pm
The market jumped to above 1.30 and then dropped nearly instantly to a low 1.28. This huge swing took place because Mario Draghi in a question and answer session after the ECB decision announced there will not be any further rate cuts. There was a chance negative interest rates would be introduced and as they have now been all but written off the market has put its confidence in the Euro - See more at: http://www.eurorateforecast.com/#sthash.JSxMzxwo.dpuf
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Post by: Orca on March 10, 2016, 07:49:51 pm
The bad news from SA attenuated the fall of the ZAR and cemented the downgrade.
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Post by: Patrick on March 11, 2016, 10:27:39 am
And then gains again the next day. Currency traders must be making a killing, or losing the shirt off their backs!
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Post by: Orca on March 11, 2016, 10:35:36 am
Traders act on impulse and then digest the news for some time to before making a decision on the direction it should be taking. Seems we will see sub 15 soon.
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Post by: jaDEB on March 11, 2016, 11:54:32 am
lon :)
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Post by: ninamina on March 11, 2016, 12:40:40 pm
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Post by: ninamina on March 11, 2016, 12:44:43 pm
anyone looking for info about megastocx, instastocx, tiestacron, MSI???
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Post by: Patrick on March 11, 2016, 03:53:23 pm
Did you get scammed by them? send Facebook and hello Peter are full of complaints.
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Post by: Orca on March 11, 2016, 08:53:20 pm
Brazil was recently downgraded to junk but:
The index is now up just over 30% for the rolling month, against the backdrop of growing bullishness on South American markets, following moves this year by recently elected President Mauricio Macri to reform neighbouring Argentina’s economy.
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Post by: Nivek on March 14, 2016, 12:27:43 pm
So how did those on top of the leaderboard predict that reasources were going to run as hard?
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Post by: Fanus on March 14, 2016, 01:00:46 pm
I'm of the opinion that the world is on a downward spiral and that gold is going to become very scarce in the next 2 years so I'm trying to own the mines (just like some other Zuptas). If you invest where the president invests you can't go wrong.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 14, 2016, 01:10:14 pm
Wait till (if) the FED increases rates - if they do gold will go down.
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Post by: Snapcase on March 14, 2016, 01:31:16 pm
I think its clear Mr President is a forex trader...   :P
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Post by: Luna on March 14, 2016, 01:35:04 pm
Are you sure gold will go down after the FED increases rates? Gold is up in rand after the December rate increase. Might go down in dollar terms. lol to be honest... I think Gold will go up in rand terms whether or not the FED increases rates or keep them stable.
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Post by: Moonraker on March 14, 2016, 02:08:00 pm
Agreed, in Rand terms it could be a totally different kettle of fish. However in $ terms, if the $ strengthens, it means that the $ strengthens against all commodities (which are priced in $), so by implication the commodity prices will be weaker. Conversely, if the dollar weakens so anything that is priced in dollars, including oil, becomes relatively stronger and that relative strength is reflected in a higher price.
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Post by: Luna on March 14, 2016, 02:21:10 pm
lol and if the US decides not to increase rates... keep it stable or maybe backtrack on interest rate plans... it might be that investors will also flee to Gold (loosing faith in QE and other stimulus methods). Might be Bullish for the Rand (not that the FED will decide this unless some crappy employment data comes out)
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Post by: Fanus on March 14, 2016, 02:28:33 pm
We sell our gold at R15.30, next month R17, next month R19.  I don't think the US job data, EU miracle stability or our politicians are going to change this trend any time soon
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Post by: Moonraker on March 15, 2016, 02:51:55 pm
Wtf

When Gordhan’s 17-strong “non-deal investment roadshow” travelled to London, Boston and New York last week, all flew business class. And in London the delegation, minus the trade union component, found lodgings at the luxury five-star Grange St Pauls hotel.

However, when they moved on to Boston and New York, the accommodation was at four-star level, at the Hyatt Boston Harbour and the historic Waldorf Astoria in New York.

http://www.fin24.com/Economy/gordhan-roadshow-wheres-the-belt-tightening-20160315


(R= 15.90)
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Post by: Nivek on March 15, 2016, 03:13:58 pm
My mood seems directly proportional to the rand dollar rate :(
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Post by: Orca on March 15, 2016, 03:37:55 pm
(Reuters) - South Africa's Hawks elite police unit said on Tuesday it would exercise its "constitutional powers" after Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan failed to meet a second deadline to answer its questions, weakening the rand further
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Post by: gcr on March 15, 2016, 04:20:10 pm