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« Reply #7410 on: January 24, 2019, 03:05:51 pm »
S&P 500 dividends for the quick games on the US site.
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« Reply #7411 on: January 27, 2019, 07:30:27 am »
Quote from: Patrick on January 18, 2019, 08:13:04 am
No problem with that, but I'm going to have to go and figure out what a MACD is now :)

Still no MACD Patrick? I bet you I could improve my timing significantly with just a simple MACD. Here's how to do it in Excel:
http://investexcel.net/how-to-calculate-macd-in-excel/

MACD's are neat for seeing alignments in timing between fast and slow money, and which moves are more trusted. Simple harmonics and nature loves harmonics and spirals, probably because no-one can escape the Coriolis force on this planet. But now am getting into the quadrivium and sacred geometry and everyone is probably snoozing off. Unless you follow Pythagorus' as well.....

Bollinger bands would also be useful. Simple standard deviation stuff. Bollingers are like the elastic bands of a market, telling you when they're too stretched and need to come back within normal ranges. All very basic human nature stuff.
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« Reply #7412 on: January 27, 2019, 11:33:48 pm »
Lol haven't even looked at it yet, but I'll give it a try once soon, I have a staycation coming up in Feb.
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« Reply #7413 on: February 12, 2019, 11:50:51 am »
WhAt is HaPPeninG at EOH ? down another 27%
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« Reply #7414 on: February 12, 2019, 12:49:28 pm »
"EOH says Microsoft did not give any reasons for terminating the agreements"
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« Reply #7415 on: February 12, 2019, 01:52:36 pm »
Thanks . . .
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« Reply #7416 on: February 15, 2019, 06:43:39 pm »
Wow - mine seems to be how the mighty have fallen. 2 place to go and I will be plumb last on the table :)) :)). Whereas a few weeks ago I got to about position 3 :money: :money:. Guess I need to buy a bucket load of Steinhoff, Taste or Grande Parade next month :LHST: :LHST:
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« Reply #7417 on: February 20, 2019, 04:23:57 pm »
Look on the bright side Greaham, you didn't buy EOH!
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« Reply #7418 on: February 20, 2019, 04:43:57 pm »
Quote from: Patrick on February 20, 2019, 04:23:57 pm
Look on the bright side Greaham, you didn't buy EOH!
No but I did hold Steinhoff and sold out at a profit. And then bought in a large parcel at R 1.86 all inclusive - need my head read :LHST:
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« Reply #7419 on: February 21, 2019, 08:59:22 am »
I did @ R20 Rant. EOH
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« Reply #7420 on: February 26, 2019, 02:44:50 pm »
Futures trading such as SSF's, CFD's and FX at margin is not taxable in many countries such as the UK as it is considered as gambling. What about SA?
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« Reply #7421 on: February 26, 2019, 03:54:33 pm »
I dabbled in CFD in about 2005/2006 and then stopped - the reason being that they are short term contracts and as such SARS then saw this as trading. If you are categorized as a trader then SARS treat profits as income and you are tax accordingly, and if you really do well (ha ha) you could fall into the super bracket taxpayer. Also when I engaged with SARS to understand the ramifications of being a categorized as a trader you would have great difficulty convincing them that you could be a trader and an investor at the same time . I also raised the question of partitioning a portfolio into 2 components "trading" and "investing" - investing you have to hold the shares for 3 years to be categorized as an investor. When we had the crash 2007/2008 I sold out much of my portfolio some in time others not so lucky - but I still kept my status as an investor. Another "trick" I learnt was that you buy a sizeable parcel of shares and you trade within this parcel based on the shares volatility but tax year to tax year your holdings stay at the original purchase. However over the ears I have stopped doing this because my stockbroker now sends comprehensive documentation to SARS and their investigators will (if you are on their radar) interrogate your transactions on the transaction listing report.
One type of share dealings that seems to have either disappeared or doesn't seem popular anymore is installment shares. In 2005 and 2006 I built up my share portfolio this way - you bought x number of shares in a company (at trading prices) but only paid 55% up front the balance you could defer for one year - this gave you the opportunity to see the direction of the shares - if increasing in price you paid at the original agreed price and could then sell at the higher current price and make a small profit or large profit if it took off. Haven't checked lately whether they are still available though
Be very wary with SSF's and CFD's - in about 2006 I lost some R35 k in the space of 2 days so it really is gambling at the high end and as all casinos know the tables are loaded against the gambler   
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« Reply #7422 on: February 26, 2019, 05:39:08 pm »
The reason I mentioned this was because of that lucky lotto winner. As he is not a full time gambler he does not need to pay tax on his windfall.
If he does then all lotto players can book their losses to offset future winnings. This is the reason UK does not tax futures on margin. Most people loose and would book the losses.
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« Reply #7423 on: February 27, 2019, 03:47:23 pm »
Quote from: Orca on February 26, 2019, 02:44:50 pm
Futures trading such as SSF's, CFD's and FX at margin is not taxable in many countries such as the UK as it is considered as gambling. What about SA?

Not sure if I am reading this right - but spread betting is not taxed, but CFDs are taxed in the UK.
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« Reply #7424 on: February 27, 2019, 05:03:33 pm »
In the UK, CFDs, forex and spread betting are classed as ‘speculative’. As no underlying asset is actually owned, these derivatives escape Capital Gains Tax and HMRC view income derived from this speculation as tax-free. Individuals who class themselves as ‘trading for a living’ may need to pay income tax, but in general, profits are not liable for tax.
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