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« Reply #6075 on: September 03, 2017, 12:49:54 pm »
Portugal now open for immigration to South Africans. The only country in Europe to do so.
http://dnm-sadvog.com/en-us/Communication/News/Portuguese-Immigration-Law-New-updates
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« Reply #6076 on: September 03, 2017, 01:44:14 pm »
mmm

"Have registered as self-employed person in the Portuguese Tax Authority and the Portuguese Social Security"

Will they accept "Trader" as a self-employed person?

"Have means of subsistence, as defined in the Portuguese law"

I suppose that means some income threshold that can be proved?

« Last Edit: September 03, 2017, 01:50:54 pm by Tovad »

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« Reply #6077 on: September 03, 2017, 03:03:18 pm »
Trading stocks is a business. Nobody here is sure of the minimum earnings or investments. Some say €900 to €1350. They did not even look at ours.
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« Reply #6078 on: September 03, 2017, 07:17:22 pm »
ok - thanks!

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« Reply #6079 on: September 04, 2017, 04:44:24 am »
How can I Invest in OffShore?

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« Reply #6080 on: September 04, 2017, 08:04:47 am »
Hi Pubson, the cheapest and easiest is to open a tax free savings account with access to the stock exchange, and then use one of the offshore based ETFs like the Satrix all world ETF. Some advice on the tax free here: http://investorchallenge.co.za/a-newbies-guide-to-investing-on-the-jse/

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« Reply #6081 on: September 04, 2017, 08:46:24 am »
@Orca, that's really interesting news, and it opens the door to Schengen residency. I wonder what the "Have means of subsistence, as defined in the Portuguese law" refers to. Could enough investments qualify?

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« Reply #6082 on: September 04, 2017, 09:11:34 am »
Hi Pubson, the cheapest and easiest is to open a tax free savings account with access to the stock exchange, and then use one of the offshore based ETFs like the Satrix all world ETF. Some advice on the tax free here: http://investorchallenge.co.za/a-newbies-guide-to-investing-on-the-jse/
If Pubson is looking to externalise his funds then buying the ETF is not externalising funds the fund manager may well externalise funds but as soon as you give them a sell order the funds will be returned in SA Rand and not in the foreign currency
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« Reply #6083 on: September 04, 2017, 09:20:29 am »
You're right GCR, but fortunately there's no CGT penalty when selling, so it's a good holding point until you can get a full offshore setup.

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« Reply #6084 on: September 04, 2017, 10:25:25 am »
Okay this is what I've found: Under of Ordinance No. 1563/2007 of 11st December, is considered sufficient income for subsistence the following amounts: € 6,360 / year for the first adult € 3,189 / year for another adults of family € 1,908 / year for each member less than 18 years. Not bad actually, just over €318k in VWRD (2% yield) will give you that in dividends if you're on your own. Add another €159k for a spouse and €95k for each child.

If money is tight you could always take more risk by holding high dividend stocks or ETFs, but you do need to be very careful.
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« Reply #6085 on: September 04, 2017, 10:55:51 am »
Why is OCE getting a hiding?
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« Reply #6086 on: September 04, 2017, 12:24:22 pm »
think there was a TS on Thu/Fri last week..

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« Reply #6087 on: September 04, 2017, 01:13:24 pm »
Thanks Mr Dividend... missed it..I am dropping the ball, will go and stand in the corner for 12 minutes
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« Reply #6088 on: September 05, 2017, 09:09:23 am »
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« Reply #6089 on: September 05, 2017, 10:09:02 am »
Thanks for moderating jaDEB. I'll go ban the member now.